Upcoming MMA Cards....

[Evan]

so much coming up

Rumor Title
- SENGOKU 6: NOVEMBER 1 IN JAPAN
- WEC 36: NOVEMBER 5 IN FLORIDA
- UFC 91: NOVEMBER 15 IN LAS VEGAS
- STRIKEFORCE: NOVEMBER 21 IN CALIFORNIA
- WEC 37: DECEMBER 3 ON VERSUS
- UFC FIGHT FOR THE TROOPS: DECEMBER 10 ON SPIKE TV
- ULTIMATE FIGHTER 8 LIVE FINALE: DECEMBER 13 ON SPIKE TV
- UFC 92: DECEMBER 27 IN LAS VEGAS
- K-1 DYNAMITE!! 2008: DECEMBER 31 IN JAPAN
- UFC 93: JANUARY 17 IN IRELAND
- AFFLICTION 2: JANUARY 24 IN CALIFORNIA
- UFC 94: JANUARY 31 IN LAS VEGAS

[Evan]

"Cro Cop" says Alistair Overeem rematch set for New Year's Eve in Japan

Cro Cop's showing will be the final answer to where his career is at.

[Evan]

Open contracts are a bad idea.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/13123/chris-horodecki-enters-nov-24-shootboxing-tournament.mma

[LEONARD]

UFC Fight Night 16: Dec 10, 2008 in NC
-Yoshiyuki Yoshida vs Josh Koscheck

:wow

[dallaskd]

Great fight. Kos needs a win badly. I respect him for taking that though.

[dallaskd]

well not badly but he can't drop 2 in a row and 3 of 5.

[LEONARD]

Yoshida gonna smack him around...

[Evan]

Yoshida gonna smack him around...

Coin flip for me...great effing fight.

[djohn14]

Thiago Alves > Kos > Yoshida

[dallaskd]

None of them could last 2 rounds with Penn.

[dbreiden83080]

None of them could last 2 rounds with Penn.

:lmao

Sherk lasted 3

[dallaskd]

:lmao

Sherk lasted 3

Your point?

[dbreiden83080]

Your point?

If Penn needed 3 full RDS to get rid of Sherk, who can't compete at 170, almost 2 full RDs to take out Pulver, who can't compete at 170 and almost 2 rds to get rid of Stevenson, who again can't fight at 170, your MMA math above is a little fuzzy and confusing, in regards to Kos and Alves. That's my point..

Alves would maul Pulver and Sherk something awful, GSP VS Sherk was a joke at 170, he killed him in far more dominant fashion than Penn did at 155..

[djohn14]

I agree with dbreiden...Alves could kill Pulver.

[dbreiden83080]

I agree with dbreiden...Alves could kill Pulver.

That would be ugly, i mean talk about a mis-match...

[Evan]

UFN going 3 hours.

The full UFC Fight Night 16 fight card includes:

MAIN CARD

Josh Koscheck vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Jonathan Goulet vs. Mike Swick
Razak Al-Hussan vs. Steve Cantwell
Tim Credeur vs. Nate Loughran
Frankie Edgar vs. Matt Wiman
PRELIMINARY CARD

Brodie Farber vs. Luigi Fioravanti
Steve Bruno vs. Johnny Rees
Ben Saunders vs. Brandon Wolff
Dale Hartt vs. Corey Hill
Eddie Sanchez vs. Justin McCully (go away, both of you)

[djohn14]

Im so glade the McCully-Sanchez fight isnt on tv. Also, does anyone have anything on Razak Al-Hussan, and that name is going to get booed so bad at the show for the troops.

[dallaskd]

If Penn needed 3 full RDS to get rid of Sherk, who can't compete at 170, almost 2 full RDs to take out Pulver, who can't compete at 170 and almost 2 rds to get rid of Stevenson, who again can't fight at 170, your MMA math above is a little fuzzy and confusing, in regards to Kos and Alves. That's my point..

Alves would maul Pulver and Sherk something awful, GSP VS Sherk was a joke at 170, he killed him in far more dominant fashion than Penn did at 155..


you edited your post and then you deleted your original one..



Sherk was never a great 170 pd fighter, he got smashed by GSP in less time than Penn could do it at 155, he lasted 3 full Rounds with Penn and you got Penn taking out top contending 170 PD fighters, like Alves and Kos in 2 RDS.

That is what we call MMA Math gone Bizzaro Dallas..

Penn almost needed 3 rds to get rid of Jens Pulver for God's sake.. Alves would murder Pulver so badly they'd need his dentist to identify the body..


I think your MMAth is a little fuzzy. Who cares how many rounds it took him to take out Sherk. The almighty Brock Lesnar couldn't finish Heath Herring, GSP couldn't finish Fitch, ANDERSON SILVA couldn't even beat Patrick Cote. Different fighters match up differently and i was making my prediction that neither would make it past 2 rounds. How far Sherk made it is irrelevant. BJ was content with picking apart Sherk all day.

[dallaskd]

And your original post was dumb. Of course Alves would murder Pulver. Jens is a 145er and Alves could really be at 185! Why even bring up the obvious?

[dallaskd]

I agree with dbreiden...Alves could kill Pulver.

Again, Pulver is a 145er. Who could fight at 35 if he put his mind to it.

[dbreiden83080]

I think your MMAth is a little fuzzy. Who cares how many rounds it took him to take out Sherk.

It matters when Sherk can't fight at 170 and you got BJ mopping the floor with much bigger more physically imposing opponents, you bet it matters..


"The almighty Brock Lesnar couldn't finish Heath Herring"

Didn't try to finish Herring is accurate and also irrelevant to the topic at hand..

"GSP couldn't finish Fitch, ANDERSON SILVA couldn't even beat Patrick Cote"

Fitch is a great 170 pd fighter who would murder everyone Penn has fought at 155, give me a call when BJ kicks his ass because he hasn't done squat at 170 since he got finished by Hughes... And Silva did beat Cote, he just didn't try and finish him before the injury. Please show me the footage where he seriously tried to end that fight? I'd love to see it..

"Different fighters match up differently and i was making my prediction that neither would make it past 2 rounds. How far Sherk made it is irrelevant. BJ was content with picking apart Sherk all day"

Ah i get it, so when Brock does not finish a fight it is because he can't and When Silva doesn't finish a fight it is because he can't but when Penn goes 3 with Sherk, it is because he didn't feel like finishing, until RD 3. Lets forget the fact that he landed like 10 hard overhand rights and didn't even rock Sherk until RD 3. now i see how your BJ fanboy syndrome works, glad we got that straight..:toast

January can't come fast enough, that's all i have to say..

[dallaskd]

And I think it is a little bias to say that Alves would maul Sherk. Sherk has beat very good strikers before in Radach and he beat Karo Parisyan twice.

[dbreiden83080]

And how would Penn beat Alves BTW?? Stand in the pocket and eat leg kicks all day. He better outbox him and duck those kicks because he has Zero chance of getting ALves to the ground..

[dbreiden83080]

And I think it is a little bias to say that Alves would maul Sherk. Sherk has beat very good strikers before in Radach and he beat Karo Parisyan twice.

GSP used him for target practice at 170, Alves hits harder and is probably an even better striker than GSP. Sherk just looked average against Tyson Griffin at 155. You way overrate Penn's recent competition..

[dallaskd]

Sherk has an iron jaw. Watch the Franca fight. I think it is dumb to try and figure out who would win fights by how bad they beat Sean Sherk and the quality of their last opponents. It boils down to Sherk vs Penn. Sean Sherk and Thiago Alves are not in that cage and do not influence the fight at all. See you in '09.

Go Randy.

[dallaskd]

And how would Penn beat Alves BTW?? Stand in the pocket and eat leg kicks all day. He better outbox him and duck those kicks because he has Zero chance of getting ALves to the ground..

Is this the same Alves that got owned by Spencer Fisher? tell me.

[dallaskd]

GSP used him for target practice at 170, Alves hits harder and is probably an even better striker than GSP. Sherk just looked average against Tyson Griffin at 155. You way overrate Penn's recent competition..

I don't care what his recent competition has been. Fedor hasn't fought shit outside of Sylvia lately and people still consider him a god. When have I ever said Penn has fought oh so amazing competition. I gave him props for fighting Machida at 205 and beating Gomi. I think Sherk is very much a top guy. But obviously when Sherk isn't all over Lesnar's cock, you think the guy is trash.

[dallaskd]

This winter it is GSP vs PENN.

I don't want to talk about Sherk and your bias towards him or anyone else. It is irrelevant.

[dbreiden83080]

Is this the same Alves that got owned by Spencer Fisher? tell me.

Dude he is on a 7 fight win streak since the loss to Fitch, just mowing folks down. And Fitch is a guy you love to underrate, even though you once told me he'd beat GSP after the rematch with Serra. Don't know if that was GSP hate or an actual belief... Didn't work you too good though..


It boils down to Sherk vs Penn. Sean Sherk and Thiago Alves are not in that cage and do not influence the fight at all. See you in '09.


It comes down to measuring competition, as well and you seem to enjoy overrating BJ's of late. There are no signs he is dominating at 170, and i don't expect that too happen.. He didn't do it years ago and the division is twice as good now..

[dallaskd]

It comes down to measuring competition, as well and you seem to enjoy overrating BJ's of late. There are no signs he is dominating at 170, and i don't expect that too happen.. He didn't do it years ago and the division is twice as good now..

This is completely different type of BJ. :lol

but no seriously, Penn is a different fighter and I think he takes the fight. BJ did take GSP to a split decision when he was a shitty 170er according to you.

[dbreiden83080]

But obviously when Sherk isn't all over Lesnar's cock, you think the guy is trash.

You and the Lesner hate is unreal..

[dallaskd]

You and the Lesner hate is unreal..

People felt the same way with Tito. You love or hate him. You just happen to be a fanboy of both.

[dbreiden83080]

"This is completely different type of BJ"

He is better now but who has he tested it against? Fighting Sherk at 155 and then fighting GSP at 170 is like Silva fighting Cote, then stepping up to fight Rampage Jackson...

"but no seriously, Penn is a different fighter and I think he takes the fight. BJ did take GSP to a split decision when he was a shitty 170er according to you"

I think they are both more skilled now, but GSP is bigger, stronger the better athlete and wrestler. He is also better conditioned and his JJ has gone from good in that first fight to now great. He'll wear BJ out, you'll see...

[dallaskd]

I think they are both more skilled now, but GSP is bigger, stronger the better athlete and wrestler. He is also better conditioned and his JJ has gone from good in that first fight to now great. He'll wear BJ out, you'll see...

ok. we'll see.

Go Randy.

[dbreiden83080]

ok. we'll see.

Go Randy.

Go Fitch oh wait, he lost, but yeah go Randy.. :toast

[dbreiden83080]

This winter it is GSP vs PENN.

I don't want to talk about Sherk and your bias towards him or anyone else. It is irrelevant.

Give some detail about why you feel Penn will dominate some of these guys and maybe i won't have to talk about BJ's recent competiton. You seem to enjoy just saying BJ will do this and that, i rarely ever read why you feel he will do it though...

Alves for Example, if Penn can't outstrike him he's dead. He's not getting him down when Kos didn't, ETC...

[cornbread]

Tomorrow night in Austin there's going to be an amazing card.

van vo vs. christian sanchez
adam schindler vs. justin reiswerg
aaron suarez vs. edwin figueroa
navied sadeghi vs. davis sylvester
robby rabadi vs. joel traves
ali ileiwi vs. seth clifton
james king vs. diego b. ceara
tj waldburger vs. chidi njokuani
johnny bedford vs. dustin neace
chris guillen vs. dave herman
dave phillips (former IFL) vs. rodrigo pinheiro (blackbelt world champion under Saulo Ribeiro)

[Evan]

take pics

[cornbread]

take pics

I wish I was going but I have other things I have to do. All the King of Kombat shows I've been to have been really awesome. Great Texas pros, good production quality and well run.

Usually their fights hit youtube and it's good quality video.

[dallaskd]

bump leonard....

this fell to the third page.