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Solid D
07-11-2007, 07:20 PM
San Antonio Spurs Draft History - (does not reflect trades)
http://basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/draft.html

2007 NBA 1 28 Tiago Splitter
2 3 Marcus Williams University of Arizona
2 28 Giorgos Printezis
2006 NBA 2 29 Damir Markota
2005 NBA 1 28 Ian Mahinmi
2004 NBA 1 28 Beno Udrih
2 23 Romain Sato Xavier University
2 28 Sergei Karaulov
2003 NBA 1 28 Leandro Barbosa
2002 NBA 1 26 John Salmons University of Miami
2 27 Luis Scola
2 28 Randy Holcomb San Diego State University
2001 NBA 1 28 Tony Parker
2 27 Robertas Javtokas
2 29 Bryan Bracey University of Oregon
2000 NBA 2 12 Chris Carrawell Duke University
1999 NBA 2 28 Manu Ginobili
1998 NBA 1 24 Felipe Lopez St. John's University
2 23 Derrick Dial Eastern Michigan University
1997 NBA 1 1 Tim Duncan Wake Forest University
1995 NBA 1 29 Cory Alexander University of Virginia
1994 NBA 1 22 Bill Curley Boston College
1993 NBA 2 20 Chris Whitney Clemson University
1992 NBA 1 18 Tracy Murray University of California, Los Angeles
2 17 Henry Williams University of North Carolina at Charlotte
1991 NBA 2 22 Greg Sutton Oral Roberts University
1990 NBA 1 24 Dwayne Schintzius University of Florida
2 16 Tony Massenburg University of Maryland
2 27 Sean Higgins University of Michigan
1989 NBA 1 3 Sean Elliott University of Arizona
1988 NBA 1 10 Willie Anderson University of Georgia
2 2 Shelton Jones St. John's University
3 6 Barry Sumpter Austin Peay State University
3 25 Archie Marshall University of Kansas
1987 NBA 1 1 David Robinson United States Naval Academy
1 23 Greg Anderson University of Houston
2 4 Nate Blackwell Temple University
3 4 Phil Zevenbergen University of Washington
4 4 Todd May Pikeville College
5 4 Dennis Williams University of Georgia
6 5 Ricky Brown University of South Alabama
7 4 Raynard Davis University of Texas at Austin
1986 NBA 1 10 Johnny Dawkins Duke University
2 9 Kevin Duckworth Eastern Illinois University
3 1 Forrest McKenzie Loyola Marymount University
4 9 Carlos Briggs Baylor University
5 9 Earl Kelley University of Connecticut
6 9 Kevin Lewis Southern Methodist University
7 9 Michael Anderson University of Texas-Pan American
1985 NBA 1 14 Rick Hughes Loyola University of Chicago
2 5 Mike Brittain University of South Carolina
2 11 Tyrone Corbin DePaul University
4 12 Scott Roth University of Wisconsin
5 13 Clayton Olivier University of Southern California
6 12 Chris Harper University of Oregon
7 13 Al Young Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
1984 NBA 1 7 Alvin Robertson University of Arkansas
3 10 Joe Binion North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University
4 8 John Devereaux Ohio University
4 20 Ozell Jones California State University, Fullerton
5 7 Eric Richardson University of Alabama
6 8 Dion Brown University of Louisiana at Lafayette
7 7 Michael Pitts University of California
8 8 Dan Tarkanian University of Nevada, Las Vegas
9 7 Melvin Roseboro St. Mary's University
10 8 Frank Rodriguez New Mexico State University
1983 NBA 1 19 John Paxson University of Notre Dame
2 11 Darrell Lockhart Auburn University
2 22 Kevin Williams St. John's University
4 20 Brant Weidner College of William & Mary
5 19 Jeff Pehl University of Richmond
6 20 Ricky Hooker St. Mary's University
7 19 Keith Williams Oklahoma Panhandle State University
8 20 Norville Brown Oklahoma Christian University
9 19 Gary Gaspard St. Mary's University
10 20 Lamar Heard University of Georgia
1982 NBA 2 1 Oliver Robinson University of Alabama at Birmingham
3 18 Willie Redden University of South Florida
4 18 Tony Grier University of South Florida
5 18 Clarence Swannegan Texas Tech University
6 18 Jaime Pena New Mexico State University
7 18 Delonte Taylor North Texas State University
8 18 Chris Faggi University of Memphis
9 17 Harry O'Brien St. Mary's University
10 17 Keith White McMurry University
1981 NBA 2 5 Gene Banks Duke University
2 7 Ed Rains University of South Alabama
3 18 Tom Baker Eastern Kentucky University
4 18 Earl Belcher St. Bonaventure University
5 18 Mike Rhodes Vanderbilt University
6 18 Norman Shavers Jackson State University
7 18 Mark Minderman Northern Michigan University
8 17 Bob Bartholomew University of San Diego
9 16 Leonel Marquetti Hampton University
10 17 Alvin Brooks Lamar University
1980 NBA 1 15 Reggie Johnson University of Tennessee
2 16 Michael Wiley California State University, Long Beach
3 14 Lavon Mercer University of Georgia
3 15 Rich Yonakor University of North Carolina
4 14 Calvin Roberts California State University, Fullerton
5 15 Gib Hinz University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
6 14 Dean Uthoff Iowa State University
7 15 Allan Zahn University of Arkansas
8 12 Bill Bailey University of Texas-Pan American
9 13 Al Williams North Texas State University
10 10 Steve Schall University of Arkansas
1979 NBA 1 19 Wiley Peck Mississippi State University
3 19 Sylvester Norris Jackson State University
4 18 Al Daniel Furman University
5 18 Steve Schall University of Arkansas
6 17 Terry Knight University of Pittsburgh
7 18 Tyrone Branyan University of Texas at Austin
9 16 Eddie McLeod University of Nevada, Las Vegas
10 15 Glen Fine Harvard University
1978 NBA 1 20 Frankie Sanders Southern University and A&M College
3 20 Gerald Henderson Virginia Commonwealth University
4 20 Rich Adams University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
5 20 Eugene Parker Purdue University
6 19 Harry Morgan Indiana State University
7 19 Hector Olivencia Sacred Heart University
8 16 Henry Taylor University of Texas-Pan American
9 15 Rick Taylor Arizona State University
10 14 Larry Brewster University of Florida
1977 NBA 2 15 Jeff Wilkins Illinois State University
3 15 Dan Henderson Arkansas State University
4 15 Matt Hicks Northern Illinois University
5 15 Scott Sims University of Missouri
6 15 Bruce Buckley University of North Carolina
7 14 Richard Robinson University of New Mexico
8 15 Jerome Gladney University of Arizona

Ocotillo
07-11-2007, 07:50 PM
My gosh, Scola was drafted five years ago!!!

Wiley Peck lives.

O-Factor
07-11-2007, 08:32 PM
Whats the deal with Markota? Anyone know where this guy is or if he is progressing?

BruceBowenFan
07-11-2007, 08:41 PM
Whats the deal with Markota? Anyone know where this guy is or if he is progressing?
i think he got traded to the bucks

Solid D
07-11-2007, 08:49 PM
http://www.nba.com/media/act_damir_markota.jpg

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/damir_markota/index.html?nav=page

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-11-2007, 09:35 PM
Dan Tarkanian in 1984? Seriously? :lol

Solid D
07-11-2007, 09:46 PM
Dan Tarkanian in 1984? Seriously? :lol

:lol Yeah, Tark's son. He was actually a very good player back in the day.

spurscenter
07-11-2007, 09:51 PM
San Antonio Spurs Draft History - (does not reflect trades)
http://basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/draft.html

2007 NBA 1 28 Tiago Splitter
2 3 Marcus Williams University of Arizona
2 28 Giorgos Printezis
2006 NBA 2 29 Damir Markota
2005 NBA 1 28 Ian Mahinmi
2004 NBA 1 28 Beno Udrih
2 23 Romain Sato Xavier University
2 28 Sergei Karaulov
2003 NBA 1 28 Leandro Barbosa
2002 NBA 1 26 John Salmons University of Miami
2 27 Luis Scola
2 28 Randy Holcomb San Diego State University
2001 NBA 1 28 Tony Parker
2 27 Robertas Javtokas
2 29 Bryan Bracey University of Oregon
2000 NBA 2 12 Chris Carrawell Duke University
1999 NBA 2 28 Manu Ginobili
1998 NBA 1 24 Felipe Lopez St. John's University
2 23 Derrick Dial Eastern Michigan University
1997 NBA 1 1 Tim Duncan Wake Forest University
1995 NBA 1 29 Cory Alexander University of Virginia
1994 NBA 1 22 Bill Curley Boston College
1993 NBA 2 20 Chris Whitney Clemson University
1992 NBA 1 18 Tracy Murray University of California, Los Angeles
2 17 Henry Williams University of North Carolina at Charlotte
1991 NBA 2 22 Greg Sutton Oral Roberts University
1990 NBA 1 24 Dwayne Schintzius University of Florida
2 16 Tony Massenburg University of Maryland
2 27 Sean Higgins University of Michigan
1989 NBA 1 3 Sean Elliott University of Arizona
1988 NBA 1 10 Willie Anderson University of Georgia
2 2 Shelton Jones St. John's University
3 6 Barry Sumpter Austin Peay State University
3 25 Archie Marshall University of Kansas
1987 NBA 1 1 David Robinson United States Naval Academy
1 23 Greg Anderson University of Houston
2 4 Nate Blackwell Temple University
3 4 Phil Zevenbergen University of Washington
4 4 Todd May Pikeville College
5 4 Dennis Williams University of Georgia
6 5 Ricky Brown University of South Alabama
7 4 Raynard Davis University of Texas at Austin
1986 NBA 1 10 Johnny Dawkins Duke University
2 9 Kevin Duckworth Eastern Illinois University
3 1 Forrest McKenzie Loyola Marymount University
4 9 Carlos Briggs Baylor University
5 9 Earl Kelley University of Connecticut
6 9 Kevin Lewis Southern Methodist University
7 9 Michael Anderson University of Texas-Pan American
1985 NBA 1 14 Rick Hughes Loyola University of Chicago
2 5 Mike Brittain University of South Carolina
2 11 Tyrone Corbin DePaul University
4 12 Scott Roth University of Wisconsin
5 13 Clayton Olivier University of Southern California
6 12 Chris Harper University of Oregon
7 13 Al Young Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
1984 NBA 1 7 Alvin Robertson University of Arkansas
3 10 Joe Binion North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University
4 8 John Devereaux Ohio University
4 20 Ozell Jones California State University, Fullerton
5 7 Eric Richardson University of Alabama
6 8 Dion Brown University of Louisiana at Lafayette
7 7 Michael Pitts University of California
8 8 Dan Tarkanian University of Nevada, Las Vegas
9 7 Melvin Roseboro St. Mary's University
10 8 Frank Rodriguez New Mexico State University
1983 NBA 1 19 John Paxson University of Notre Dame
2 11 Darrell Lockhart Auburn University
2 22 Kevin Williams St. John's University
4 20 Brant Weidner College of William & Mary
5 19 Jeff Pehl University of Richmond
6 20 Ricky Hooker St. Mary's University
7 19 Keith Williams Oklahoma Panhandle State University
8 20 Norville Brown Oklahoma Christian University
9 19 Gary Gaspard St. Mary's University
10 20 Lamar Heard University of Georgia
1982 NBA 2 1 Oliver Robinson University of Alabama at Birmingham
3 18 Willie Redden University of South Florida
4 18 Tony Grier University of South Florida
5 18 Clarence Swannegan Texas Tech University
6 18 Jaime Pena New Mexico State University
7 18 Delonte Taylor North Texas State University
8 18 Chris Faggi University of Memphis
9 17 Harry O'Brien St. Mary's University
10 17 Keith White McMurry University
1981 NBA 2 5 Gene Banks Duke University
2 7 Ed Rains University of South Alabama
3 18 Tom Baker Eastern Kentucky University
4 18 Earl Belcher St. Bonaventure University
5 18 Mike Rhodes Vanderbilt University
6 18 Norman Shavers Jackson State University
7 18 Mark Minderman Northern Michigan University
8 17 Bob Bartholomew University of San Diego
9 16 Leonel Marquetti Hampton University
10 17 Alvin Brooks Lamar University
1980 NBA 1 15 Reggie Johnson University of Tennessee
2 16 Michael Wiley California State University, Long Beach
3 14 Lavon Mercer University of Georgia
3 15 Rich Yonakor University of North Carolina
4 14 Calvin Roberts California State University, Fullerton
5 15 Gib Hinz University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
6 14 Dean Uthoff Iowa State University
7 15 Allan Zahn University of Arkansas
8 12 Bill Bailey University of Texas-Pan American
9 13 Al Williams North Texas State University
10 10 Steve Schall University of Arkansas
1979 NBA 1 19 Wiley Peck Mississippi State University
3 19 Sylvester Norris Jackson State University
4 18 Al Daniel Furman University
5 18 Steve Schall University of Arkansas
6 17 Terry Knight University of Pittsburgh
7 18 Tyrone Branyan University of Texas at Austin
9 16 Eddie McLeod University of Nevada, Las Vegas
10 15 Glen Fine Harvard University
1978 NBA 1 20 Frankie Sanders Southern University and A&M College
3 20 Gerald Henderson Virginia Commonwealth University
4 20 Rich Adams University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
5 20 Eugene Parker Purdue University
6 19 Harry Morgan Indiana State University
7 19 Hector Olivencia Sacred Heart University
8 16 Henry Taylor University of Texas-Pan American
9 15 Rick Taylor Arizona State University
10 14 Larry Brewster University of Florida
1977 NBA 2 15 Jeff Wilkins Illinois State University
3 15 Dan Henderson Arkansas State University
4 15 Matt Hicks Northern Illinois University
5 15 Scott Sims University of Missouri
6 15 Bruce Buckley University of North Carolina
7 14 Richard Robinson University of New Mexico
8 15 Jerome Gladney University of Arizona


Hey thanks!! thats great info. where did u get this from, can i ask?

spurscenter
07-11-2007, 09:56 PM
I remember watching spurs pick barbosa, and I was so fucking happy and excited because I saw him play in Brazil and knew he was Tony Parker Like and said that is so fucking great. Tony backup!!

Then minutes later he was traded to Suns and I was so pissed.

I remember yelling that we should of kept him back in 03 and everyone wwas like HE IS BENCH FODDER. He would never make it. BLAH taco bell.

to me, that was the worst spurs draft moment but i know now, it was never spurs pick to keep.

we kept barbosa, we would of never had the beno/nick van excel/j. vaughn etc. etc. ssituations.

but thats all the past, just remincing after seeing that draft post.

Solid D
07-11-2007, 10:02 PM
Hey thanks!! thats great info. where did u get this from, can i ask?

Click on the link I included at the top of the list.

timvp
07-11-2007, 10:06 PM
Click on the link I included at the top of the list.Slowly, Solid D, he will learn.

:cooldevil

FromWayDowntown
07-11-2007, 10:30 PM
[old school]In 1973, the Spurs #1 pick was, ahem, Mike D'Antoni.

Of course, in 1972, the Spurs/Chaparrals also drafted a center out of UCLA named Bill Walton. Other famous Chaparral draft picks: Stan Love (1971); Walt Szczerbiak (1971); Sidney Wicks (1971); Tiny Archibald (1970); Jo Jo White (1968); Pat Riley (1967).[/old school]

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-11-2007, 11:29 PM
[old school]In 1973, the Spurs #1 pick was, ahem, Mike D'Antoni.

Of course, in 1972, the Spurs/Chaparrals also drafted a center out of UCLA named Bill Walton. Other famous Chaparral draft picks: Stan Love (1971); Walt Szczerbiak (1971); Sidney Wicks (1971); Tiny Archibald (1970); Jo Jo White (1968); Pat Riley (1967).[/old school]


The ABA looked like a perfect fit for Bill! His white man fro could have challenged Dr. J's!

Solid D
07-11-2007, 11:53 PM
[old school]In 1973, the Spurs #1 pick was, ahem, Mike D'Antoni.

Of course, in 1972, the Spurs/Chaparrals also drafted a center out of UCLA named Bill Walton. Other famous Chaparral draft picks: Stan Love (1971); Walt Szczerbiak (1971); Sidney Wicks (1971); Tiny Archibald (1970); Jo Jo White (1968); Pat Riley (1967).[/old school]

http://www.databasefootball.com/draft/draftteam.htm?tm=DAL&lg=nfl

'Not the only Dallas club to draft Pat in 1967...

Dallas Cowboys Draft History

1967
Rnd Name College Note
3 Phil Clark Northwestern
4 Curtis Marker Northern Michigan
6 Sims Stokes Northern Arizona
7 Rayfield Wright Ft. Valley State
8 Steve Laub Illinois Wesleyan
9 Byron Morgan Findlay
10 Eugens Bowens Tennessee A&I
11 Pat Riley Kentucky
12 Harold Deters North Carolina State
13 Al Kerkian Akron
14 Tommy Boyd Tarleton State
15 Leavie David Edward Waters
16 Paul Brothers Oregon State
17 George Adams Morehead State

Steve-O-Matic
07-12-2007, 12:21 AM
Dan Tarkanian in 1984? Seriously? :lol

LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfwcIYVoEWo)

Solid D
06-25-2008, 09:18 AM
Bump - from July 2007 :wakeup

Extra Stout
06-25-2008, 09:24 AM
[QUOTE=Solid D;1846236]San Antonio Spurs Draft History - (does not reflect trades)
http://basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/draft.html

2007 NBA 1 28 Tiago Splitter EPIC FAIL
2 3 Marcus Williams FAIL
2 28 Giorgos Printezis FAIL
2006 NBA 2 29 Damir Markota TRADED
2005 NBA 1 28 Ian Mahinmi POSSIBLE WIN
2004 NBA 1 28 Beno Udrih FAIL
2 23 Romain Sato FAIL
2 28 Sergei Karaulov FAIL
2003 NBA 1 28 Leandro Barbosa TRADED
2002 NBA 1 26 John Salmons TRADED
2 27 Luis Scola EPIC FAIL
2 28 Randy Holcomb FAIL

:tu

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 09:29 AM
2 28 Giorgos Printezis FAIL

Traded for this year's #45.



2 28 Randy Holcomb FAIL

Part of the trade for Claxton that helped win a title.




2004 NBA 1 28 Beno Udrih FAIL

He's still in the league, no?

Anyways, it's amusing how high the bar has been set for low 1st and 2nd round picks. Spurs fans are spoiled.

tlongII
06-25-2008, 09:34 AM
Question: What do all of the following players have in common?

2007 NBA 1 28 Tiago Splitter
2 3 Marcus Williams University of Arizona
2 28 Giorgos Printezis
2006 NBA 2 29 Damir Markota
2005 NBA 1 28 Ian Mahinmi
2004 NBA 1 28 Beno Udrih
2 23 Romain Sato Xavier University
2 28 Sergei Karaulov
2003 NBA 1 28 Leandro Barbosa
2002 NBA 1 26 John Salmons University of Miami
2 27 Luis Scola
2 28 Randy Holcomb San Diego State University


Answer: None of them are currently playing for the Spurs! :lmao

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 09:48 AM
Mahinmi is not?

Solid D
06-25-2008, 09:50 AM
One of dictionary.com's many definitions of "Draft" is:

"an act of drinking or inhaling"

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-25-2008, 09:52 AM
Mahinmi is not?


Slowly, Marcus Bryant, he will learn.

:cooldevil

2centsworth
06-25-2008, 10:03 AM
[quote=Solid D;1846236]San Antonio Spurs Draft History - (does not reflect trades)
http://basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/draft.html

2007 NBA 1 28 Tiago Splitter EPIC FAIL
2 3 Marcus Williams FAIL
2 28 Giorgos Printezis FAIL
2006 NBA 2 29 Damir Markota TRADED
2005 NBA 1 28 Ian Mahinmi POSSIBLE WIN
2004 NBA 1 28 Beno Udrih FAIL
2 23 Romain Sato FAIL
2 28 Sergei Karaulov FAIL
2003 NBA 1 28 Leandro Barbosa TRADED
2002 NBA 1 26 John Salmons TRADED
2 27 Luis Scola EPIC FAIL
2 28 Randy Holcomb FAIL

:tu

how does a GM not get canned for that performance? Thank goodness Pop can recruit old guys.

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 10:13 AM
how does a GM not get canned for that performance? Thank goodness Pop can recruit old guys.

:shootme

Probably because two of his picks from before then helped win 3 championships during that time.

Bruno
06-25-2008, 10:17 AM
Saying that drafting Scola is an "epic fail" is plain wrong.
Scola was a very good pick and Spurs get way more value for him than you get for a 57th pick.

jbspurs
06-25-2008, 10:17 AM
Carlos Briggs drafted by the Spurs '86... Did he ever played for the Spurs? I remember him playing in the Philippines for my favorite team. That guy can shoot the lights out! I think he average more than 50 pts., Also, He was a guest speaker for our '91 summer league and our Mayor challenge him to shoot a 3 pointer. That guy shot it few feet away from the 3 point line and it was all net!.. by the way it was only 1 attempt and the rim is a lot smaller than the regulation size.

Solid D
06-25-2008, 10:20 AM
Prentezis' rights were traded to Toronto for this year's 2nd round (#45) selection. Randy Holcomb was traded along with John Salmons and Marcus Bryant ( :smokin Mark Bryant) to Larry Brown's 76ers for Speedy Claxton.

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 10:22 AM
Also, because Pop likes old guys and the roster has often been full during that time. So the Spurs have taken shots at international players with lottery talent who have fallen in the draft due to their contract situations.

A player like Beno would probably be in the starting lineup on most teams, if not the rotation. Because of Pop's selectivity and demands, he was unable to hack it in SA. So now the Spurs' FO is somehow horrible because they weren't able to find a player who can not only play in the NBA but who can be a member of a championship rotation?

Spurs fans are some spoiled whiny bitches.

Taco
06-25-2008, 10:25 AM
San Antonio Spurs Draft History - (does not reflect trades)
http://basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/draft.html

2007 NBA 1 28 Tiago Splitter
2 3 Marcus Williams University of Arizona
2 28 Giorgos Printezis
2006 NBA 2 29 Damir Markota
2005 NBA 1 28 Ian Mahinmi
2004 NBA 1 28 Beno Udrih
2 23 Romain Sato Xavier University
2 28 Sergei Karaulov
2003 NBA 1 28 Leandro Barbosa
2002 NBA 1 26 John Salmons University of Miami
2 27 Luis Scola
2 28 Randy Holcomb San Diego State University
2001 NBA 1 28 Tony Parker
2 27 Robertas Javtokas
2 29 Bryan Bracey University of Oregon
2000 NBA 2 12 Chris Carrawell Duke University
1999 NBA 2 28 Manu Ginobili
1998 NBA 1 24 Felipe Lopez St. John's University
2 23 Derrick Dial Eastern Michigan University
1997 NBA 1 1 Tim Duncan Wake Forest University
1995 NBA 1 29 Cory Alexander University of Virginia
1994 NBA 1 22 Bill Curley Boston College
1993 NBA 2 20 Chris Whitney Clemson University
1992 NBA 1 18 Tracy Murray University of California, Los Angeles
2 17 Henry Williams University of North Carolina at Charlotte
1991 NBA 2 22 Greg Sutton Oral Roberts University
1990 NBA 1 24 Dwayne Schintzius University of Florida
2 16 Tony Massenburg University of Maryland
2 27 Sean Higgins University of Michigan
1989 NBA 1 3 Sean Elliott University of Arizona
1988 NBA 1 10 Willie Anderson University of Georgia
2 2 Shelton Jones St. John's University
3 6 Barry Sumpter Austin Peay State University
3 25 Archie Marshall University of Kansas
1987 NBA 1 1 David Robinson United States Naval Academy
1 23 Greg Anderson University of Houston
2 4 Nate Blackwell Temple University
3 4 Phil Zevenbergen University of Washington
4 4 Todd May Pikeville College
5 4 Dennis Williams University of Georgia
6 5 Ricky Brown University of South Alabama
7 4 Raynard Davis University of Texas at Austin
1986 NBA 1 10 Johnny Dawkins Duke University
2 9 Kevin Duckworth Eastern Illinois University
3 1 Forrest McKenzie Loyola Marymount University
4 9 Carlos Briggs Baylor University
5 9 Earl Kelley University of Connecticut
6 9 Kevin Lewis Southern Methodist University
7 9 Michael Anderson University of Texas-Pan American
1985 NBA 1 14 Rick Hughes Loyola University of Chicago
2 5 Mike Brittain University of South Carolina
2 11 Tyrone Corbin DePaul University
4 12 Scott Roth University of Wisconsin
5 13 Clayton Olivier University of Southern California
6 12 Chris Harper University of Oregon
7 13 Al Young Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
1984 NBA 1 7 Alvin Robertson University of Arkansas
3 10 Joe Binion North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University
4 8 John Devereaux Ohio University
4 20 Ozell Jones California State University, Fullerton
5 7 Eric Richardson University of Alabama
6 8 Dion Brown University of Louisiana at Lafayette
7 7 Michael Pitts University of California
8 8 Dan Tarkanian University of Nevada, Las Vegas
9 7 Melvin Roseboro St. Mary's University
10 8 Frank Rodriguez New Mexico State University
1983 NBA 1 19 John Paxson University of Notre Dame
2 11 Darrell Lockhart Auburn University
2 22 Kevin Williams St. John's University
4 20 Brant Weidner College of William & Mary
5 19 Jeff Pehl University of Richmond
6 20 Ricky Hooker St. Mary's University
7 19 Keith Williams Oklahoma Panhandle State University
8 20 Norville Brown Oklahoma Christian University
9 19 Gary Gaspard St. Mary's University
10 20 Lamar Heard University of Georgia
1982 NBA 2 1 Oliver Robinson University of Alabama at Birmingham
3 18 Willie Redden University of South Florida
4 18 Tony Grier University of South Florida
5 18 Clarence Swannegan Texas Tech University
6 18 Jaime Pena New Mexico State University
7 18 Delonte Taylor North Texas State University
8 18 Chris Faggi University of Memphis
9 17 Harry O'Brien St. Mary's University
10 17 Keith White McMurry University
1981 NBA 2 5 Gene Banks Duke University
2 7 Ed Rains University of South Alabama
3 18 Tom Baker Eastern Kentucky University
4 18 Earl Belcher St. Bonaventure University
5 18 Mike Rhodes Vanderbilt University
6 18 Norman Shavers Jackson State University
7 18 Mark Minderman Northern Michigan University
8 17 Bob Bartholomew University of San Diego
9 16 Leonel Marquetti Hampton University
10 17 Alvin Brooks Lamar University
1980 NBA 1 15 Reggie Johnson University of Tennessee
2 16 Michael Wiley California State University, Long Beach
3 14 Lavon Mercer University of Georgia
3 15 Rich Yonakor University of North Carolina
4 14 Calvin Roberts California State University, Fullerton
5 15 Gib Hinz University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
6 14 Dean Uthoff Iowa State University
7 15 Allan Zahn University of Arkansas
8 12 Bill Bailey University of Texas-Pan American
9 13 Al Williams North Texas State University
10 10 Steve Schall University of Arkansas
1979 NBA 1 19 Wiley Peck Mississippi State University
3 19 Sylvester Norris Jackson State University
4 18 Al Daniel Furman University
5 18 Steve Schall University of Arkansas
6 17 Terry Knight University of Pittsburgh
7 18 Tyrone Branyan University of Texas at Austin
9 16 Eddie McLeod University of Nevada, Las Vegas
10 15 Glen Fine Harvard University
1978 NBA 1 20 Frankie Sanders Southern University and A&M College
3 20 Gerald Henderson Virginia Commonwealth University
4 20 Rich Adams University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
5 20 Eugene Parker Purdue University
6 19 Harry Morgan Indiana State University
7 19 Hector Olivencia Sacred Heart University
8 16 Henry Taylor University of Texas-Pan American
9 15 Rick Taylor Arizona State University
10 14 Larry Brewster University of Florida
1977 NBA 2 15 Jeff Wilkins Illinois State University
3 15 Dan Henderson Arkansas State University
4 15 Matt Hicks Northern Illinois University
5 15 Scott Sims University of Missouri
6 15 Bruce Buckley University of North Carolina
7 14 Richard Robinson University of New Mexico
8 15 Jerome Gladney University of Arizona

I remember being at the Draft Party and Larry Brown came running out like a little school girl to anounce that we were drafting Schintzius

Larry Brown loves the Big Man, just ask the Pistons

What a freaking joke

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 10:28 AM
Saying that drafting Scola is an "epic fail" is plain wrong.
Scola was a very good pick and Spurs get way more value for him than you get for a 57th pick.

Yes. Splitter as well. Both were gambles with a low 1st round pick and low 2nd round pick. Scola didn't work out because of the luxury tax. Splitter didn't work out due to the ability of an Euroleague team to outbid a low 1st round rookie scale contract.

Oh noes.

2centsworth
06-25-2008, 10:33 AM
:shootme

Probably because two of his picks from before then helped win 3 championships during that time.

Manu was a totally lucky pick and Pop may have been the GM at the time, I don't recall. However, you're giving too much credit to RC for the ping pong balls and injuries going the spurs way.

2centsworth
06-25-2008, 10:35 AM
Also, because Pop likes old guys and the roster has often been full during that time. So the Spurs have taken shots at international players with lottery talent who have fallen in the draft due to their contract situations.

A player like Beno would probably be in the starting lineup on most teams, if not the rotation. Because of Pop's selectivity and demands, he was unable to hack it in SA. So now the Spurs' FO is somehow horrible because they weren't able to find a player who can not only play in the NBA but who can be a member of a championship rotation?

Spurs fans are some spoiled whiny bitches.

I guess the fact that Scola, Josh Howard, Barbosa, and Noccionni could have easily been on this team makes it even worse.

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 10:38 AM
Manu was a totally lucky pick and Pop may have been the GM at the time, I don't recall. However, you're giving too much credit to RC for the ping pong balls and injuries going the spurs way.

ROFL. When the low 2nd round pick pans out, it's luck. When it doesn't, fire the GM.

Harry Callahan
06-25-2008, 10:49 AM
Speedy Claxton helped the Spurs win the 2003 championship (Salmons pick). The draft pick acquired for Barbosa's rights along with another #1 went to NY with Malik Rose for Nazr Mohammed, who was a key factor in the Spurs 2005 championship run.

It sure get's old educating these people complaining all the time, doesn't it Marcus B?

Ignorant and spoiled posters I say.

The Spurs have had the fewest draft assets to work with compared to EVERY OTHER TEAM in the NBA. It is difficult to draft stars when you don't have a #1 or you have the 25-30th pick.

The Spurs have actually done a good job of drafting talented players overall given their draft position.

Maybe uneducated Spurs fan would like for the team to lose 60 games next year so the FO can draft better.

2centsworth
06-25-2008, 10:58 AM
ROFL. When the low 2nd round pick pans out, it's luck. When it doesn't, fire the GM. I agree with you, late 2nd round picks are crap shoots. Missing on 2nd round picks is not why he should be canned. It's consistenly missing on 1st rounders that's the problem. Literally, you or I could luck out on a second rounder or two once every 10 years.

Twisted_Dawg
06-25-2008, 11:06 AM
I remember being at the Draft Party and Larry Brown came running out like a little school girl to anounce that we were drafting Schintzius

Larry Brown loves the Big Man, just ask the Pistons

What a freaking joke

Perhaps Larry is a latent homosexual?

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 11:07 AM
I guess the fact that Scola, Josh Howard, Barbosa, and Noccionni could have easily been on this team makes it even worse.

All of them?

Scola could've been on this team if the Spurs hadn't moved Nesterovic and then sought out a replacement center. Now are they supposed to not address needs today for someone showing up tomorrow? Howard or Barbosa was a choice made in order to go after an all-NBA 1st team member who your star, who happened to be a free agent at the time, wanted you to go after.

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 11:09 AM
I agree with you, late 2nd round picks are crap shoots. Missing on 2nd round picks is not why he should be canned. It's consistenly missing on 1st rounders that's the problem. Literally, you or I could luck out on a second rounder or two once every 10 years.

What low 1st rounders have they "missed" out on? They moved a couple to move a contract. They took Beno who on any other team would be a part of the rotation. Mahinmi is likely joining the rotation next year. They took a shot on Splitter. The worst that can be said about Splitter is that he cost them Landry. BFD.

2centsworth
06-25-2008, 11:09 AM
Speedy Claxton helped the Spurs win the 2003 championship (Salmons pick). The draft pick acquired for Barbosa's rights along with another #1 went to NY with Malik Rose for Nazr Mohammed, who was a key factor in the Spurs 2005 championship run.

this is so debateable it's not even funny. I love Speedy and Nazr for the very short times they were here. But is it coincidence they were here a very short time?




It sure get's old educating these people complaining all the time, doesn't it Marcus B?

Happy, but can see the end is near if personnel decisions aren't changed in a hurry. Spurs can win 1 or 2 more titles with a little help, which they haven't received in the past 5 years from the front office.




The Spurs have had the fewest draft assets to work with compared to EVERY OTHER TEAM in the NBA. It is difficult to draft stars when you don't have a #1 or you have the 25-30th pick.
It's tougher, but the spurs have blown through 10 1st round picks the past 7 years and have Kurt Thomas, Nazr, and Speedy Claxton to show for it. I would think the greatest FO in the history of the league with the ability to see Manu's greatness with the 2nd to last pick of a draft could get us more with so many 1st round picks.





Maybe uneducated Spurs fan would like for the team to lose 60 games next year so the FO can draft better.

Spurs have been winning 50 plus games forever. If we don't do better in the draft, we'll have to pray to the ping pong balls gods again.

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 11:09 AM
Speedy Claxton helped the Spurs win the 2003 championship (Salmons pick). The draft pick acquired for Barbosa's rights along with another #1 went to NY with Malik Rose for Nazr Mohammed, who was a key factor in the Spurs 2005 championship run.

It sure get's old educating these people complaining all the time, doesn't it Marcus B?


Yes it does.

2centsworth
06-25-2008, 11:12 AM
All of them?

Scola could've been on this team if the Spurs hadn't moved Nesterovic and then sought out a replacement center.


why are you making it so complicated. They chose Bonner over Scola that's it.


Howard or Barbosa was a choice made in order to go after an all-NBA 1st team member who your star, who happened to be a free agent at the time, wanted you to go after. Tim Duncan wanted Josh Howard.

Twisted_Dawg
06-25-2008, 11:13 AM
Riddle me this Solid D....

Why did we not have a #1 pick in 1977, our first year to draft as a NBA team?

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 11:15 AM
why are you making it so complicated. They chose Bonner over Scola that's it.


No they didn't. They couldn't deal Bonner's rights to move Butler's contract and avoid paying a significant amount of luxury tax. And, again, they faced the luxury tax because they were trying to win now instead of not addressing the center spot in hopes that the almighty Scola might appear at some time in the future.




Tim Duncan wanted Josh Howard.

...and Jason Kidd. So the Spurs went after Kidd.

2centsworth
06-25-2008, 11:23 AM
No they didn't. They couldn't deal Bonner's rights to move Butler's contract and avoid paying a significant amount of luxury tax. And, again, they faced the luxury tax because they were trying to win now instead of not addressing the center spot in hopes that the almighty Scola might appear at some time in the future.

Bonner was a free agent and they could have let him go. Butler's contract would have cost them some cash, no doubt. RC gets somewhat a reprieve because of Holt's cheapness. Nevertheless, Scola was worth a lot more and RC couldn't get more than a few bucks in return.





...and Jason Kidd. So the Spurs went after Kidd. So that cost them 7 years of 1st round picks? I guess Pop deserves some managerial blame too.

FromWayDowntown
06-25-2008, 11:29 AM
LOL at the notion that the Spurs could have somehow just remained a title contender into infinity by using their draft picks differently.

The window closes when #21 hangs it up. It opens again when the Spurs find a dominant star. None of the guys the Spurs "could have" drafted fit that bill.

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 11:31 AM
Bonner was a free agent and they could have let him go. Butler's contract would have cost them some cash, no doubt. RC gets somewhat a reprieve because of Holt's cheapness. Nevertheless, Scola was worth a lot more and RC couldn't get more than a few bucks in return.

ROFL. They would have still been stuck with Butler's contract and would have been unable to sign Scola due to the lux tax liability. Then Scola re-ups with Tau.





So that cost them 7 years of 1st round picks? I guess Pop deserves some managerial blame too.

What? Udrih is still in this league, no? Mahinmi is coming in next season. They moved what they received for the '03 pick and the '06 pick to get rid of Rose, who, of course, helped them win a title in '03. And they got Mohammed for the '05 title run out of that deal. And of course they signed Rose to keep Duncan (who was to be a FA the following year) happy and to keep Rose away from the Lakers. They used the '07 pick to gamble on Splitter, who was a lottery talent who fell because of his contract with Tau.

Nevermind the 3 titles the team just won, let's run out the GM because they haven't been able to pull more stars with low 1st round picks while serving a finicky coach and an owner unwilling to pay the lux tax.

FromWayDowntown
06-25-2008, 11:33 AM
Nevermind the 3 titles the team just won, let's run out the GM because they haven't been able to pull more stars with low 1st round picks while serving a finicky coach and an owner unwilling to pay the lux tax.

That's the contextual piece in all of this bitching that seems to get missed.

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 11:37 AM
That's the contextual piece in all of this bitching that seems to get missed.

Not to mention a championship winning roster that was often full.

:shakesheadindisgust

FromWayDowntown
06-25-2008, 11:44 AM
Not to mention a championship winning roster that was often full.

:shakesheadindisgust

Their eyes are blinded by the glare of championship bling and the unrealistic thought that a decade of dominance can be extended with marginal all-stars, none of which is or was a great big-man.

Even the 2004 Pistons, for all the talk of their commitment to team principles and lack of a major star, were a club built around lottery picks (even if those picks were exercised by other teams). 6 of the 12 players on that Pistons' playoff roster were guys who were picked in the lottery (Hamilton, Billups, R. Wallace, Williamson, Hunter, and Milicic).

Tully365
06-25-2008, 01:00 PM
In the last ten years, the Spurs have grabbed an all-star point guard with a late first round pick & an all-star shooting guard with a late second round pick. Compare that with the second most successful team of the past decade, the Lakers:

2000 29 L.A. Lakers Mark Madsen Stanford
2001 - - - -
2002 20 Toronto (from Seattle via New York, rights traded to Lakers) Kareem Rush G, Missouri
2003 24 (round 1) L.A. Lakers Brian Cook Illinois
2003 32 (round 2) L.A. Lakers Luke Walton Arizona
2004 27 (round 1) L.A. Lakers Sasha Vujacic Italy
2004 56 (round 2) L.A. Lakers Marcus Douthit Providence
2005 10 (round 1) L.A. Lakers Andrew Bynum St. Joseph HS
2005 37 (round 2 from Bobcats) Lakers (4) Ronny Turiaf Gonzaga
2005 39 (round 2) L.A. Lakers Von Wafer Florida State
2006 26 (round 1) L.A. Lakers Jordan Farmar UCLA
2006 51 (round 2) L.A. Lakers (traded to Toronto) Cheick Samb Senegal
2006 58 (round 2) Dallas (traded to Lakers for 2007 2nd round pick) J.R. Pinnock George Washington
2007 19 (round 1) L.A. Lakers Javaris Crittenton Georgia Tech
2007 40 (round 2 from Charlotte) L.A. Lakers Sun Yue China
2007 48 (round 2) L.A. Lakers Marc Gasol Spain

Tully365
06-25-2008, 01:05 PM
And now if you really want to feel good, take a look at the draft history of the Knicks, keeping in mind that they've had higher picks for an entire decade and still could not outdraft the Spurs:


2007
Rnd Name College/HS/Country Note
1 Wilson Chandler DePaul University

2006
Rnd Name College/HS/Country Note
1 Renaldo Balkman University of South Carolina
1 Mardy Collins Temple University

2005
Rnd Name College/HS/Country Note
1 Channing Frye Arizona
1 David Lee Florida
2 Dijon Thompson UCLA

2004
Rnd Name College/HS/Country Note
2 Trevor Ariza UCLA

2003
Rnd Name College/HS/Country Note
1 Michael Sweetney Georgetown
2 Maciej Lampe Poland
2 Slavko Vranes Serbia

2002
Rnd Name College/HS/Country Note
1 Nene Hilario Brazil

2001
Rnd Name College/HS/Country Note
2 Michael Wright Arizona
2 Eric Chenowith Kansas

tlongII
06-25-2008, 02:13 PM
Mahinmi is not?

Did you see him on their bench last season? I sure didn't. :lol

FromWayDowntown
06-25-2008, 02:18 PM
Did you see him on their bench last season? I sure didn't. :lol

I saw him play in 6 games for the Spurs last season.

So, yeah, I did.

Marcus Bryant
06-25-2008, 02:21 PM
Did you see him on their bench last season? I sure didn't. :lol

Not surprising. Stick to hoping Oden isn't a bust.

T Park
06-25-2008, 02:29 PM
More like stick to hoping Oden stays off the dance dance revolution or the Guitar Hero over the summer.

Solid D
06-25-2008, 04:57 PM
Riddle me this Solid D....

Why did we not have a #1 pick in 1977, our first year to draft as a NBA team?

Spurs traded their 1st round pick (#15) to the Lakers for Mack Calvin and cash. The Lakers drafted Brad Davis who would, of course, end up being an excellent player with the Mavs (first Mavs jersey retired).

Mack Calvin was waived by the Spurs a few months after being traded to them.

FromWayDowntown
06-25-2008, 05:27 PM
Spurs traded their 1st round pick (#15) to the Lakers for Mack Calvin and cash. The Lakers drafted Brad Davis who would, of course, end up being an excellent player with the Mavs (first Mavs jersey retired).

Mack Calvin was waived by the Spurs a few months after being traded to them.

Hence justifying complaints about the current administration in the Spurs FO.

Oh to have those good old days of savvy management back again!!

2centsworth
06-25-2008, 05:54 PM
That's the contextual piece in all of this bitching that seems to get missed.

the contextual piece is what you said previously, #21 and the luck of the ping pong balls.

I'm only holding management accountable to the same standard as we hold players. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY. There are no lifetime exemptions for championships. Maybe get 2 to 3 year grace period like in the case of Robert Horry, but 7 years is a bit much.

GSH
06-25-2008, 06:54 PM
There's nothing magic about the Round. The last pick of the first round is how much better than the first pick of the second round? Any player drafted that low is a surprise, if they work out. And why wouldn't they be, considering how many of the first round picks bust out?

In the past 12 seasons, the Spurs have had exactly 1 good first round pick, and that one got them Tim Duncan. Other than that, they had one pick at #24, one at #26, and the rest were all #28 or #29. Those might as well be second-rounders. Bitching about who the Spurs selected in those spots is like second-guessing stock picks 5 years down the road. If it was easy to pick the good ones, we'd all be rich. But it's really easy to spot them in hindsight.

In those same 12 seasons, there have been 180 players picked at #15 and above by other teams. Who do you think is filling up most of the roster spots around the league? We never had a shot at drafting any of those guys. In that same period of time, the Spurs have put together the best record of any team in any professional sport. And the last time I checked, you have to have players to succeed in a sport. If you guys are seriously bitching because some of the crap-shoot late picks haven't worked out, get over it.

m33p0
06-25-2008, 06:57 PM
look on the bright side, at least the spurs aren't the ones who drafted kwame brown.

objective
06-25-2008, 08:52 PM
bizarre trivia note

Leon Smith the 99 1st rounder traded to Dallas with the foster home background and mental problems last played for los Estudiantes de Bahia Blanca.

Biggems
06-25-2008, 09:46 PM
In 1985 when we drafted that waste of space Hughes.....we could have had Joe Dumars, AC Green, or Terry Porter

From 1986, I wasn't mad about Johnny Dawkins. He had some skills, just had that unfortunate wrist injury. BTW, there wasn't much after him in the draft that year, except John Salley.....

In 1987, we got the DUH pick...DRob. What sucks though, is that Reggie Lewis was drafted by the Celtics one pick ahead of us in the 1st round. So we drafted Cadillac with the last pick of the 1st that year. How sweet would it have been to have gotten Robinson and Lewis from the same draft.

1988 we drafted Willie Anderson, no complaints here. The only other guy I would have even been happy with was Dan Majerle.

1989 we got Sean Elliott, stupendous pick....thank goodness Never Nervous Pervis and Ferry were picked 1st and 2nd that year.

1990 we should have drafted Elden Campbell or Tony Kukoc instead of Dwayne Shitjuice. Antonio Davis would have been a far superior pick to Tony Massengil. No complaints about Sean Higgins, he was the last player picked that year.

1991 no first, but we did get Greg "Black Hole" Sutton late in the 2nd. did he ever pass the ball once it touched his hands? btw, he was the best player left.

1992 other than like 6 players, this entire draft was week....Shaq, Zo, Horry, Sprewell, Jon Barry, Geiger.....and we got nothing but garbage out of it....but we could have drafted Sprewell.

1993 no 1st again.....Whitney in the 2nd was the best player left.

1994 I can't believe we drafted Bill Curley instead of Wesley Person. Didn't we trade Curly to Detroit along with Elliott for Rodman.......

1995 Corey Alexander at the end of the 1st.....horrible pick. But if you look at the entire 2nd round, you tend to forgive SA for making the choice. Man that draft was abysmal.

1996 no draft picks at all

1997 our second DUH pick, Tim Duncan.

1998 we passed on Al Harrington for Felipe Lopez. Heck we could have even had Rashard Lewis instead. Derrick Dial was an ok pick....it was either him or Ryan Bowen or Greg Buckner. I could live with Dial.

1999 Leon Smith was a horrible pick, but we traded him away....but there was this little argentian diamond we found late in the 2nd round....some dude name Emmanuel Ginobili.

2000 no 1sts....we drafted Carawell instead if Michael Redd....ugh

2001 Frenchie gets drafted in the 1st, Javtokas late in the 2nd...a nice draft

2002 we could have drafted Boozer instead of Salmons, or even Matt Barnes. We drafted Scola late in the 2nd.

2003 this was the year we were courting Jason Kidd, so we traded our pick, Barbosa, to the Suns to save money....Kidd signed with NJ and we gave away a very nice young prospect, who has played well for the Suns. He sure would make a nice backup for Tony though. I used to get upset that we passed on Josh Howard, until he admitted to being a pothead.

2004 we got Beno...who was a huge underachiever. We should have taken Duhon instead. This was also the year we picked Lettuce Sato and Karaulov.....neither panned out for us, which sucks.

2005 love the Mahimni pick. I think he will do some very nice things for our team over the next several years.

2006 no 1sts....drafted Markota and traded him to Milwaukee

2007 I liked the Splitter pick, but sure wish we could have gotten Almond. I just wanted a quality wing player from the 2nd, but we didnt get one.