Chargers thread

[johnsmith]

I'm starting this thread because Sanity hijacks other threads and turns them into Chargers talk anyway. Hell, he started one about the Broncos and it ended up being a CHargers thread.

I'll start:

Phillip RIvers, while not a true sophomore, will go through a sophomore slump.

Ready..........Go.

[monosylab1k]

8-8

[Fillmoe]

they suck.... they whole squad roided up

[mardigan]

Norv will doom this team
If he doesnt they could be good

[monosylab1k]

Norv will doom this team
If he doesnt they could be good

If by some freak chance hell freezes over and Norv doesn't ruin the team, they'll be in the AFC Championship Game or the Super Bowl. That's a 13-3 team with a 4-12 coach.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Norv's never had this type of talent to coach. Belicheck never did anything good with the piss poor teams he was handed either.

[monosylab1k]

Norv's never had this type of talent to coach. Belicheck never did anything good with the piss poor teams he was handed either.
Belichick got strong armed by the owner and GM in Cleveland. And he took a terrible team to the playoffs and got a win. He did good with what he had presented to him.

And he didn't completely fail in multiple stops.

[possessed]

Norv will be the death of 'em. A team like the Chargers is tailor made for a Parcells like disciplinarian to come in and win now, not a quiet pushover like Norvell Turner. Arrogance, a sense of entitlement and a lack of poise are probably the Chargers biggest hurdles. Norv doesn't get them over the hurdle, he buries them farther beneath.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Parcells style = Shottys style

[John McClane]

The Chargers suck.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So does PG13 mother f'er

[John McClane]

The Charger still suck. I actually shoot myself to get a fucking R rating and the MPAA gives me this PG-13 shit because the US is numb to violence and my producer blows the head of the MPAA on a nightly basis.

[Fillmoe]

mike nolan >>>>>>>>>>> your favorite coach

[TheSanityAnnex]

Where's the thread of Fillmoe crying cause Norv Turner left the Niners?

[greenroom]

Well its hard to say that SD sucks since it is really between them and Denver for the Divisional Title. Oakland and KC are real weak this year IMO.

But that said both teams will win 10+ games and both make the playoffs. Shanny has had success in the playoffs and well Norv hasn't.

I don't think LT2 will put up the numbers he did last year and it will be interesting to see how Rivers handles the pressure on him. As I don't think he had a lot of pressure on him last season since most did not think he would do well.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The league will be in for a surprise when they have to see Michael Turner much more than they did last year.

[greenroom]

The league will be in for a surprise when they have to see Michael Turner much more than they did last year.

Hey do you think the Chargers keep Turner next year? Would they put the tag on him?

Of course I am speaking for Fan Football. The only bad thing about Fan football is needing to see the Chargers score points againt my Broncos cause I have Rivers :bang

[TheSanityAnnex]

He's gone next year, guaranteed. He deserves a big pay day, the guy is a beast. I'll really miss him and will never forget his run against the Colts to seal the deal on ending their undefeated streak. I'd love for him to accept his role on an amazing team so the Chargers can continue to have the most feared 1/2 running back combo. This year should be fun with Norv at the helm offensively (for Charger fans at least) because I'm guessing we'll be seeing a lot of LT/Turner on the field at the same time.

[Fabbs]

Could the Chargers give MTurner some huge signing bonus to offset the relatively small max salary they can offer him after this season?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Not sure?

[TheSanityAnnex]

But it doesn't make sense cap wise to resign him when you have LT as your running back.

[Fabbs]

But it doesn't make sense cap wise to resign him when you have LT as your running back.
LT + Turner in at same time adds more weaponry.
LT and Turner in seperately gives LT rest, gives Turner more touches.

LT + Turner better then no Turner on team.
However do NFL teams have to stay under the cap?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Turner will command top dollar, and no way would the Chargers agree to pay him top dollar. Signing Turner would be a huge mistake as it would hamper them from signing other players that are key to a solid all around team. I'd love for Turner to take a pay cut because he likes his team, but when has that ever happened.

[greenroom]

LT + Turner in at same time adds more weaponry.
LT and Turner in seperately gives LT rest, gives Turner more touches.

LT + Turner better then no Turner on team.
[b]However do NFL teams have to stay under the cap?]/b]

Yes they have a hard cap. But as Denver and SF have been busted for with creative accounting sometimes they may be able to go a little above it. but if the NFL catches it then you lose a draft pick.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Yes they have a hard cap. But as Denver and SF have been busted for with creative accounting sometimes they may be able to go a little above it. but if the NFL catches it then you lose a draft pick.I'd read that Denver was very creative in the way that they would restructure their existing contracts. Was not aware that was against the rules.

[greenroom]

I'd read that Denver was very creative in the way that they would restructure their existing contracts. Was not aware that was against the rules.

Not sure if you remember this. But I found a link on what Denver did.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28969-2004Sep17.html

From the story.
The penalties imposed Thursday on the Denver Broncos for violations of the league's rules regarding the disclosure of deferred compensation to players and the salary cap were the second sanctions against the team for similar infractions in less than three years.

In December 2001, the Broncos were fined $968,000 and lost a third-round pick in the 2002 draft for violations reportedly relating to $29 million in deferred payments to quarterback John Elway and running back Terrell Davis.

On Thursday, the league announced that the Broncos have been fined $950,000 and will lose a third-round selection in next year's draft for circumventing the salary cap between 1996 and '98. The penalties were set in an agreement between the league, the Players Association and the Broncos and resolve a case against the team brought before the sport's special master by the NFL's Management Council in January 2003, the league announced.

[peewee's lovechild]

I can see how the Charger will be successful with Norv Turner as Head Coach, being that he was extremely successful at Washington and Oakland.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Washington and Oakland had the equivalent of a WNBA roster.

[John Patrick]

Dielman didnt get the Pro Bowl last year, but he definetly will get it this year..

same with Castillo.

i took mcneil for granted last year... what a great young LT

[ducks]

chargers will kick denver butt and colts

[ducks]

San Diego Chargers: The Chargers are scary good when it comes to pure athletic talent. With RB LaDainian Tomlinson, QB Philip Rivers and DT Jamal Williams, they also have enough leadership to overcome what coach Norv Turner might lack in that department. The Chargers must remain focused through a difficult first two weeks. They open at home against Chicago and travel to New England.

[John Patrick]

Chicago's weakness is Rex, and the Pats is one game I definetly wont be missing...

1-1, at the least(damn Pats.....but all those Wr's, vs our secondary...)

[Fabbs]

Belichick got strong armed by the owner and GM in Cleveland. And he took a terrible team to the playoffs and got a win. He did good with what he had presented to him.

And he didn't completely fail in multiple stops.
Turners Redskin team went 10-6 and won their first playoff game in 1999.
Same as Belichicks tenure in Cleveland.
2 years in Oakland were a disaster for Turner, granted.

42-55 is Belichicks record after 2000, his 1st year going 5-11 in New England.
2001 was the bullshit tuck rule that gifted the Pats the win over Oakland.
While Belichicks record since then has been great and he is a great coach, he's had plenty of help, ie dumbass Martyball giving him a playoff win last year.

So lets see what Norv does from here on out, just as Belichick has done since 2000.

Sanity Annex are you going to attend any camp days?

[mardigan]

:lol
Trying to compare Turner to Belichek is about the funniest thing I've ever heard

[Fabbs]

:lol
Trying to compare Turner to Belichek is about the funniest thing I've ever heard
I'm glad it's penetrated your dome since their records and situations in Cleveland and Washington were very similiar.
Check back in three years.
Also week 2 this year.

[mardigan]

I'm glad it's penetrated your dome since their records and situations in Cleveland and Washington were very similiar.
Check back in three years.
Also week 2 this year.
Belichek made the playoffs in his 4th year with a shit squad
Norv took 6 with money to spend and players
And Bills second stop he created a powerhouse
How did Norvs 2nd stop go?

[Fabbs]

Belichek made the playoffs in his 4th year with a shit squad
Norv took 6 with money to spend and players
And Bills second stop he created a powerhouse
How did Norvs 2nd stop go?
Pssssh.
Ya I'm sure Bilicheck would have created a powerhouse in both Washington and Oakland. :lol
Daniel Snyder did not take over until 1997.
For that matter how has it gone for Joe Gibbs so far with "money and players"? Yeah he must suck as a coach too. Along with Joe Torre of the Yankees. You know, because he sucked before joining NY.

[mardigan]

Pssssh.
Ya I'm sure Bilicheck would have created a powerhouse in both Washington and Oakland. :lol
Daniel Snyder did not take over until 1997.
For that matter how has it gone for Joe Gibbs so far with "money and players"? Yeah he must suck as a coach too. Along with Joe Torre of the Yankees. You know, because he sucked before joining NY.
Joe Torre? Your reaching man
Synder took over in 99, but you were close
And I guess Norv getting a team 3 years removed from a Super Bowl win to the playoffs was a little to much to ask for him huh?
At least Gibbs made it back to the playoffs in his 2nd year with the one of the worst GMs in football.

[Fabbs]

Joe Torre? Your reaching man
Am I?
Joes three stops prior to the Yankees:
286-420 Mets with zero playoffs. 4th 5th or 6th (out of 6) each year.
257-229 Atlanta with one 1st, resulting in 0-3 in playoff.
351-354 St Louis. Zero playoffs.

Atl sucked before and after Joe. Joes Atl record was the best for that era.
St Louis won the division the year after Joe left. 1996.

Norv was not my 1st choice. Whether or not he sucks in the playoffs lets let the future games decide it.

[mardigan]

Am I?
Joes three stops prior to the Yankees:
286-420 Mets with zero playoffs. 4th 5th or 6th (out of 6) each year.
257-229 Atlanta with one 1st, resulting in 0-3 in playoff.
351-354 St Louis. Zero playoffs.

Atl sucked before and after Joe. Joes Atl record was the best for that era.
St Louis won the division the year after Joe left. 1996.

Norv was not my 1st choice. Whether or not he sucks in the playoffs lets let the future games decide it.
I onnly said your reaching by bringing baseball into it when we are talking about football, you cant even compare the coaching duties and responsibility's in the two sports

[bresilhac]

The Chargers will be in San Antonio in 2009. Just an opinion.

[Erect as a Bull]

LMAO!
nice thread John.
And Yea I dont see the Broncos winning the division.
I'm still sticking with the Broncos :)

and Javon spoke for the first time since last year today :)

[johnsmith]

bump

[Whisky Dog]

LMAO. So there is a Chargers thread

[johnsmith]

Have at it SA

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lol at Ron Rivera calling Rex Grossman a "mental midget". :lol

[J.T.]

The Pats will lose to the Chargers now that everyone will be watching them and they can't cheat.

They'll lose anyway because the Chargers are a top 5 def with talent at mostly all positions... when I think of talent at all positions, the NY Jets do not come to mind.

Don't believe the hype.

[monosylab1k]

calling Grossman a mental midget is the understatement of the century.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Randy Moss hasn't done shit against the Chargers. I expect them to bump him hard off the line and have Brady throwin under pressure all day. Don't expect another stellar performance from Moss on Sunday.

[monosylab1k]

Randy Moss hasn't done shit against the Chargers. I expect them to bump him hard off the line and have Brady throwin under pressure all day. Don't expect another stellar performance from Moss on Sunday.
That's alright we still got Welker underneath.

Anyways, this is Donte Stallworth's week to make the big catches. :smokin

[vander]

While the Chargers should win this game (just like they SHOULD have won their last 2 playoff games) Brady is going to throw for 350 easily. we will just have to come up with more big plays.

[J.T.]

Brady is going to throw for 350 easily.

Are you stoned or something? He won't get 350 against that D.

[ChargersDynasty]

Randy Moss hasn't done shit against the Chargers. I expect them to bump him hard off the line and have Brady throwin under pressure all day. Don't expect another stellar performance from Moss on Sunday.

I totally agree dude. You're so knowledgeable when it comes to football.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I totally agree dude. You're so knowledgeable when it comes to football.What a pussy. Log in with your real name if you want to talk shit.

[Fillmoe]

chargers suck..... 8-8

[TheSanityAnnex]

chargers suck..... 8-8We all know how well your predictions go. :tu

[ChargersDynasty]

^^I heard that.

[monosylab1k]

What a pussy. Log in with your real name if you want to talk shit.
For the record, I am not ChargersDynasty. I only use Dynasty trolls to mock SpursDynasty.

[ChargersDynasty]

For the record, I am not ChargersDynasty. I only use Dynasty trolls to mock SpursDynasty.

You made all of the Dynasty trolls? Those are really funny, out of respect for you I will no longer post, so the gimmick will not get old. Carry on.

[johnsmith]

D'oh!!

[Greg Oden]

chargers suck..... 8-8


Well on their way. :oink

[monosylab1k]

You made all of the Dynasty trolls?
no, just one.

[monosylab1k]

Randy Moss hasn't done shit against the Chargers. I expect them to bump him hard off the line and have Brady throwin under pressure all day. Don't expect another stellar performance from Moss on Sunday.
:lmao

[Fabbs]

Chargers should have tried to sign Randy Moss when he was available.
I posed this possibility to many SD area writers and everyone balked.

[florige]

The Chargers could had really used Moss in their offense due to the fact thats the only thing they were lacking. I'm surprised they didn't make a run at him. I would have loved him to be here in Baltimore, but with the idiotic playcalling Billick makes I could have seen Moss getting pissed off by week 4.

[Erect as a Bull]

As a Bronco fan I loved that the Pats beat them but Damn. Pats are by far the best team in the league IMO. They have a great chance to go 16-0.

Anyways. Go Packers.

[Greg Oden]

how many fuckin teams do you have ?

[ducks]

I like the fact chargers got beat
I want nov to have their attention and start getting things fixed before the playoffs

that includeds you LT

[Erect as a Bull]

how many fuckin teams do you have ?

LMAO^

1 NFL team
1 MLB team
1 NHL Team
2 NBA teams.

The only reason I like 2 NBA teams is because when I was younger I heard MJ all the time so rooted for the Bulls but moving from Back east to Wyoming I mainly like most Denver teams.

I'm allowed to like a team in every sport right??

Jesus Fuck how many times do I have to explain on here who my teams are.

[Slinkyman]

how bout them chargers!

[dirk4mvp]

Those guys are awesome !

[Slinkyman]

LT MVP!!!!
3 games for 130 rushing yards total

[J.T.]

how bout them chargers!

Super Bowl!

[peewee's lovechild]

Looks like the hiring of Norv Turner was a genius move.

It hasn't turned out at all like we all predicted.

[peewee's lovechild]

Super Bowl!

:lol :lol :lol

[J.T.]

LT got the Madden Curse for turning down the cover. Don't hurt Madden's feelings, he'll get you!

[J.T.]

Philip rivers on track to break the interceptions in a season record.

[dirk4mvp]

LT got the Madden Curse for turning down the cover. Don't hurt Madden's feelings, he'll get you!


lol.....that's what I was thinking last week too.


choooooooaaaaaaaaadddddddd bloooooooooooaaaaaaaaadddddddd

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

LT got the Madden Curse for turning down the cover. Don't hurt Madden's feelings, he'll get you!

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

[dirk4mvp]

http://www.hatsinthebelfry.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/cheesewedge_350.jpg

[peewee's lovechild]

Philip rivers on track to break the interceptions in a season record.

But, he's so much better than Eli Manning.

He's white Jesus!!

[monosylab1k]

LT should be happy, he's got more to cry about now.

[peewee's lovechild]

LT should be happy, he's got more to cry about now.

He was about to kick Phillip "Cry Me A" Rivers ass on the sidelines.

That was some funny shit.

[TheTruth]

Just shows everyone in the NFC how good the Packers really are.

[J.T.]

Just shows everyone in the NFC how good the Packers really are.

Super Bowl!

[peewee's lovechild]

Just shows everyone in the NFC how good the Packers really are.

I'll give them props for their win, but I'm still not completely convinced on the Packers. They got lucky with all those muffed balls against Philly, and I really don't think the Chargers are all that good (the SD Offense has been horrible).

But, I will say that teams have to watch out for them and that they may be a dark horse team.

[Obstructed_View]

Norv Turner's teams are a trainwreck. I'm glad for the Packers, but that wasn't the same Chargers team as it was last year.

[peewee's lovechild]

Norv Turner's teams are a trainwreck. I'm glad for the Packers, but that wasn't the same Chargers team as it was last year.

That's for damned sure.

[Fabbs]

An Intervention needs to be staged with Norv, much like owner and GM staged one with Martyball last year after 5 games.

Otherwise Norvo could lead them to 8-8 or even 6-10.
Rivers if freakin 23-27 but he still keeps trying to pound the ball with LT.
22 rushes 66 yards. The LT worship shit is getting real old.

[Tippecanoe]

LT needs to get his head out of his ass, for the chargers and my fantasy team

[possessed]

Norv will be the death of 'em. A team like the Chargers is tailor made for a Parcells like disciplinarian to come in and win now, not a quiet pushover like Norvell Turner. Arrogance, a sense of entitlement and a lack of poise are probably the Chargers biggest hurdles. Norv doesn't get them over the hurdle, he buries them farther beneath.
As I said back in July...

[Fillmoe]

lets see what LT has to say about the chargers situation...































http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7822/ltlossgh7.gif

[TheSanityAnnex]

name me a team that started with three tougher opponents.

[possessed]

Top this sucker.

:lol :lol :lol

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

lets see what LT has to say about the chargers situation...































http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7822/ltlossgh7.gif

[Slinkyman]

name me a team that started with three tougher opponents.

try and spin this loss! :lol

[T Park]

Didn't just lose, got their asses handed to em by KANSAS CITY!!!

:lmao

[Erect as a Bull]

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! @ losing to the Chiefs.
Holy fuck.

Now they get to play Denver. :)

If the Chargers lose they are in deep shit.

Funny stuff watching LT whine like a little bitch like usual tho

[peewee's lovechild]

I'm not going to dog on LT.

He's frustrated as hell. They fucked him over when they got rid of The Shott. I get his frustration.

But, I'm not a Charger fan . . . so what the fuck.

[mardigan]

name me a team that started with three tougher opponents.
Like anyone thought the Packers would be this good. And its not looking like the Bears are much of anything this year.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao kansas city :lmao

that's what you get for talking shit to THE DYNASTY.

there's nothing sweeter than seeing LT whining like a little bitch every week. Has anyone ever gone from "nicest guy" to "biggest bitch" as quickly as him?

[stretch]

only in the eyes of idiot Patriot fans and people who already hated him regardless.

LT can't help that his team is losing. Norv Turner is the worst coach in NFL history. There is only so much that L.T. can do.

[monosylab1k]

There is only so much that L.T. can do.
looking back to his QB for the pass, for starters.

[stretch]

looking back to his QB for the pass, for starters.
its not going to do much since he throws it to the opposing team every play.

[TheSanityAnnex]

that's what you get for talking shit to THE DYNASTY.

The Patriots started out 1-3 in 2001, and ended up winning a Superbowl.

[stretch]

The Patriots started out 1-3 in 2001, and ended up winning a Superbowl.
Actually they started 2-2... then won the Superbowl.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I was pretty sure it was 1-3. I didn't bother to check though.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Actually they started 2-2... then won the Superbowl.Wrong, 1-3 as I said.


Game-by-game results

+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| Week | Opponent | Result | Score |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| 1 | at Cincinnati Bengals (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cin2001.htm) | L | 17-23 |
| 2 | New York Jets (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj2001.htm) | L | 3-10 |
| 3 | Indianapolis Colts (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt2001.htm) | W | 44-13 |
| 4 | at Miami Dolphins (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia2001.htm) | L | 10-30 |
| 5 | San Diego Chargers (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg2001.htm) | W | 29-26 |
| 6 | at Indianapolis Colts (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt2001.htm) | W | 38-17 |
| 7 | at Denver Broncos (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den2001.htm) | L | 20-31 |
| 8 | at Atlanta Falcons (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl2001.htm) | W | 24-10 |
| 9 | Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf2001.htm) | W | 21-11 |
| 10 | St. Louis Rams (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram2001.htm) | L | 17-24 |
| 11 | New Orleans Saints (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nor2001.htm) | W | 34-17 |
| 12 | at New York Jets (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj2001.htm) | W | 17-16 |
| 13 | Cleveland Browns (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle2001.htm) | W | 27-16 |
| 14 | at Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf2001.htm) | W | 12- 9 |
| 15 | Miami Dolphins (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia2001.htm) | W | 20-13 |
| 16 | |
| 17 | at Carolina Panthers (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car2001.htm) | W | 38- 6 |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+

[stretch]

Wrong, 1-3 as I said.


Game-by-game results

+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| Week | Opponent | Result | Score |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| 1 | at Cincinnati Bengals (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cin2001.htm) | L | 17-23 |
| 2 | New York Jets (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj2001.htm) | L | 3-10 |
| 3 | Indianapolis Colts (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt2001.htm) | W | 44-13 |
| 4 | at Miami Dolphins (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia2001.htm) | L | 10-30 |
| 5 | San Diego Chargers (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg2001.htm) | W | 29-26 |
| 6 | at Indianapolis Colts (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt2001.htm) | W | 38-17 |
| 7 | at Denver Broncos (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den2001.htm) | L | 20-31 |
| 8 | at Atlanta Falcons (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl2001.htm) | W | 24-10 |
| 9 | Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf2001.htm) | W | 21-11 |
| 10 | St. Louis Rams (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram2001.htm) | L | 17-24 |
| 11 | New Orleans Saints (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nor2001.htm) | W | 34-17 |
| 12 | at New York Jets (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj2001.htm) | W | 17-16 |
| 13 | Cleveland Browns (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle2001.htm) | W | 27-16 |
| 14 | at Buffalo Bills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf2001.htm) | W | 12- 9 |
| 15 | Miami Dolphins (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia2001.htm) | W | 20-13 |
| 16 | |
| 17 | at Carolina Panthers (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car2001.htm) | W | 38- 6 |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+

Whoops my bad, I misread you. I thought you said 2003.

[monosylab1k]

The Patriots started out 1-3 in 2001, and ended up winning a Superbowl.
two of those losses were in the BB age (Before Brady) so it doesn't apply. Unless the Chargers have a Quarterback Messiah sitting on their bench, they're fucked.

[TheSanityAnnex]

two of those losses were in the BB age (Before Brady) so it doesn't apply. I'm surprised you even watched them back then.http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/toast.gif

1-3 is not the end of the season, especially since the afc west seems weak. If they lose to the Broncos, the season is pretty much fucked.

[Tippecanoe]

these chargers will turn it around, and probably make the playoffs. they're damn lucky the rest of their division is 2-2. but the fact remains that the san diego secondary is flat out awful. they cant stop the pass to save their lives.

[TheSanityAnnex]

these chargers will turn it around, and probably make the playoffs. they're damn lucky the rest of their division is 2-2. but the fact remains that the san diego secondary is flat out awful. they cant stop the pass to save their lives.I also believe they'll turn it around and its the reason I'm not panicking yet. The division is weak this year, thank god.
About the secondary.
Clinton Hart and Marlon McCree need to be benched.

I think Weddle, although a rookie, would make a much bigger impact back there and would put a stop to all the 30 yard slants being completed across the middle.

For as long as Jammer has played corner, you'd think the guy was a rookie. On the play where KC went across the middle for the TD, Jammer was right on his man and went for a swat instead of staying with the outside shoulder and having a chance to tackle him after it was completed.

With as many top picks the Chargers have used on their secondary, you'd think they'd be good by now. AJ Smith can not draft secondary.

[Erect as a Bull]

I'm not panicking yet like most of the dumbfuck Bronco fans who think our season is over. If we lose to the Chargers we will still probably be tied for first in our division. :lol But of course I want a win and make the Chargers 1-4. We cant stop the run so I dont know how the fuck we expect to stop LT. I hope Rivers decides to pass most the game.

3-2 going into the bye sounds good stuff. :)

[peewee's lovechild]

The Patriots started out 1-3 in 2001, and ended up winning a Superbowl.

Pfffffffft.

Patriots:
Bill Bellichick - Head Coach
Tom Brady - QB
Charlie Weiss - Offensive Coordinator
Romeo Crenell - Defensive Coordinator

Chargers:
Norv "I impoded two teams" Turner - Head Coach
Phillip "I don't know which way is up" Rivers - QB
Ladanian Tomlinson - RB


Yea, I can really see the comparison there. Ladanian Tomlinson aside, the Chargers are nothing like the Patriots and to make that assumption is nothing short of brilliant stupidity.

I've never been a Patriot fan, but god damn, the comparison makes no sense at all.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Yea, I can really see the comparison there. Ladanian Tomlinson aside, the Chargers are nothing like the Patriots and to make that assumption is nothing short of brilliant stupidity.

I've never been a Patriot fan, but god damn, the comparison makes no sense at all.Brilliant stupidity?

No where did I make the comparison of this years Chargers to the '01 Patriots, I just wanted to point out that 1-3 is not the end of the world. But lets talk about the Patriots.

You speak of Belichick as if he'd had success before '01, yet he sucked coaching the Browns. You speak of Brady as if he'd had success before '01, yet he'd never started before. Are you telling me that after the Patriots 1-3 start that you knew they'd be succesful because of all the Belichick/Brady factor when both were unproven?

Yeah, let's talk about BRILLIANT STUPIDITY.

[TheSanityAnnex]

C'mon peewee, explain to me about the great success Belichick had before coming to the Patriots.

[peewee's lovechild]

Brilliant stupidity?

No where did I make the comparison of this years Chargers to the '01 Patriots, I just wanted to point out that 1-3 is not the end of the world. But lets talk about the Patriots.

You speak of Belichick as if he'd had success before '01, yet he sucked coaching the Browns. You speak of Brady as if he'd had success before '01, yet he'd never started before. Are you telling me that after the Patriots 1-3 start that you knew they'd be succesful because of all the Belichick/Brady factor when both were unproven?

Yeah, let's talk about BRILLIANT STUPIDITY.

I was basing it on your assumption that the Chargers have a chance of making it to the Super Bowl after a 1-3 start. As to Belichick, you're right, he sucked with the browns. But, he never had the talent that Norv has. You know that.

If you would have said something like, "there's still 3/4 of a season left" or "I still believe my team has a chance", I would've respected that. But, this talk about them still being able to make it to the Super Bowl???

Please.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I was basing it on your assumption that the Chargers have a chance of making it to the Super Bowl after a 1-3 start. As to Belichick, you're right, he sucked with the browns. But, he never had the talent that Norv has. You know that.

If you would have said something like, "there's still 3/4 of a season left" or "I still believe my team has a chance", I would've respected that. But, this talk about them still being able to make it to the Super Bowl???

Please.Is this your version of :shootme :yield ?

[TheSanityAnnex]

My response regarding the Patriots starting 1-3 meant the season isn't over for the Chargers.


You trying to compare the Patriots of 2001 and the Chargers of 2007 just made you look brilliantly stupid.

Belichick '01 = Turner '07
Brady '01 = Rivers '07

Now we can look at what's has transpired since '01, but that doesn't work considering the point I was arguing.

[Erect as a Bull]

Because the Patriots had high expectations to win the division and win the Superbowl going into the 2001 season. :lol

Rivers isn't a pimple on Bradys ass.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I was basing it on your assumption that the Chargers have a chance of making it to the Super Bowl after a 1-3 start.
Please.Even if you were basing it off this your argument still doesn't have a leg.

Belichick was a loser up until that point, and Brady hadn't even started a game.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Because the Patriots had high expectations to win the division and win the Superbowl going into the 2001 season. :lol

Yeahhttp://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif Especially after their stellar season the year before.

[Erect as a Bull]

Yeahhttp://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif Especially after their stellar season the year before.

What was the Pats record in 2000?
I dont think it was that good.
I was only like 13 then though so I could be wrong. :lol

But no body gave them a chance to win going into 2001.

A lot of people said the Chargers would be Superbowl Bound.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What was the Pats record in 2000?
I dont think it was that good.
I was only like 13 then though so I could be wrong. :lol

But no body gave them a chance to win going into 2001.

A lot of people said the Chargers would be Superbowl Bound.The Patriots record was shitty.

A lot of people said the Chargers would be Superbowl bound before the entire coaching staff was turned over, myself included.

[Erect as a Bull]

The Patriots record was shitty.

A lot of people said the Chargers would be Superbowl bound before the entire coaching staff was turned over, myself included.

Yea I thought so.
I was talking about the Pats not even being included to win the Superbowl.

They were a HUGE upset when they beat the Colts to win thier first game that year.

Thats why I was confused why you are comparing Brady to Rivers this year.

Brady was in his 2nd year and a complete Underdog.

Rivers is the AFC West favorite and were projected to have a great shot to win it all.

[TheTruth]

Pfffffffft.

Patriots:
Bill Bellichick - Head Coach
Tom Brady - QB
Charlie Weiss - Offensive Coordinator
Romeo Crenell - Defensive Coordinator

Chargers:
Norv "I impoded two teams" Turner - Head Coach
Phillip "I don't know which way is up" Rivers - QB
Ladanian Tomlinson - RB


Yea, I can really see the comparison there. Ladanian Tomlinson aside, the Chargers are nothing like the Patriots and to make that assumption is nothing short of brilliant stupidity.

I've never been a Patriot fan, but god damn, the comparison makes no sense at all.
Hindsight man. We didn't know shit about any of those guys before the '01 season. Not saying the Chargers are gonna win the SB, but they aren't out of it yet.

[TheTruth]

Brilliant stupidity?

No where did I make the comparison of this years Chargers to the '01 Patriots, I just wanted to point out that 1-3 is not the end of the world. But lets talk about the Patriots.

You speak of Belichick as if he'd had success before '01, yet he sucked coaching the Browns. You speak of Brady as if he'd had success before '01, yet he'd never started before. Are you telling me that after the Patriots 1-3 start that you knew they'd be succesful because of all the Belichick/Brady factor when both were unproven?

Yeah, let's talk about BRILLIANT STUPIDITY.
Oops, guess I should have finished reading the thread.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Hindsight man. We didn't know shit about any of those guys before the '01 season. Not saying the Chargers are gonna win the SB, but they aren't out of it yet.
EXACTLY. MY POINT EXACTLY.

[TheTruth]

EXACTLY. MY POINT EXACTLY.
I feel sick to my stomach.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I feel sick to my stomach.:lmao


See you next week.http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smielephant.gif

[TheSanityAnnex]

Hopefully I can change my avatar.

[greenroom]

My response regarding the Patriots starting 1-3 meant the season isn't over for the Chargers.


You trying to compare the Patriots of 2001 and the Chargers of 2007 just made you look brilliantly stupid.

Belichick '01 = Turner '07
Brady '01 = Rivers '07

Now we can look at what's has transpired since '01, but that doesn't work considering the point I was arguing.

As much as I have enjoyed the Chargers sucking this season. The fact is they are 1 game out of first Place. And even if Denver beats them in Denver (which I think they should do) they would only be two games out. ANd lets face it the Chargers can get on a roll and make that up.

I am just shocked at how average the AFC West is playing.

[Slinkyman]

sanity once again compares the chargers to the pats, like when he compared norv turner to bill belichick. How's that comparison look now??? :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

sanity once again compares the chargers to the pats, like when he compared norv turner to bill belichick. How's that comparison look now??? :lolAt that point in Belichick's career, he and Norv are very comparable. Don't make yourself look as foolish as peewee, please.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Do I really need to pull up Belichick's record before coming to the Pats? You guys did watch football before the Y2K scare didn't you?

[monosylab1k]

At that point in Belichick's career, he and Norv are very comparable. Don't make yourself look as foolish as peewee, please.
Belichick failed with one team before being asked to take over a team that everyone thought was on the decline anyways. Turner failed miserably with two teams before being asked to take over a 14-2 squad.

Belichick got his reputation from being a genius defensive coordinator/assistant HC for Bill Parcells. Norv Turner got his reputation because he's buddies with Troy Aikman.

I guess I don't see the similarities between the two.

[monosylab1k]

LMAO even more since Norv Turner's claim to fame is that he "develops" QB's and they have success with him.

Let's go through the list of successful QB's who played for Norv Turner -

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that's it, just Troy Aikman.

NOW let's look at how many QB's were/currently are failures with Norv Turner -

Heath Shuler
Gus Frerotte
Brad Johnson
Doug Flutie
Kerry Collins
Alex Smith
Philip Rivers

:lmao this guy is fucking GREAT with quarterbacks!

If he didn't have Troy Aikman pimping him to the media, Norv Turner wouldn't have gotten another HC job after failing in Washington.