so does scola get rookie of the year over oden or kevin

[ducks]

:rolleyes

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

I don't think his 14pts 7rbs will be enough


but at least the Spurs got future cash consideration for him

[ducks]

I guess you figure ming or macgrady will be hurt enough for him to average 14 points a game

7 rebounds a game you must be dreaming


duncan will school scola

[Typhoon]

Scola is gonna do really good in the nba, I'll say his first season will be 16 pts / 6 rebounds.

[Typhoon]

and will drop 30 on the Spurs :spin

[Slinkyman]

Rookie of the year? shit scola's gonna win MVP! /Spurs_Dynasty_21

[WalterBenitez]

hmmmm Scola getting any prize will hurt around, but ... perhaps TMac will win his first playoffs series

[SequSpur]

He'll probably get 18 and 10 and the Rockets win all 4 games against the Spurs this year and then he leads the Rockets past the Spurs in the second round.

[AFBlue]

I guess you figure ming or macgrady will be hurt enough for him to average 14 points a game

7 rebounds a game you must be dreaming


duncan will school scola

Actually, John Hollinger stated that there's a fairly consistent trend when Euros come from overseas and play in the NBA. Their FG% drops about 10 points and their rebounding goes up about 25%.

So, Scola could conceivably get 6 to 7 RPG if he's given 25-30MPG.

And scoring has never been the problem with Scola....I'd say he could very well average 14PPG.

But....I don't know about ROY

[mardigan]

Im so sick of all the Scola hype
Guy hasnt played a NBA game an hes going to average 14-16 points and 7-10 boards.
I personally think the guy aint gona be shit, and the Spurs are better off without him

[AFBlue]

Im so sick of all the Scola hype
Guy hasnt played a NBA game an hes going to average 14-16 points and 7-10 boards.
I personally think the guy aint gona be shit, and the Spurs are better off without him

And the Rockets are better off WITH him. Especially when all they had to give up was a SECOND ROUND PICK IN 2009!

[sa_kid20]

it's funny how as soon as scola gets traded from the spurs his hype suddenly goes through the roof!

[Extra Stout]

It's amazing how much worse the perception of a player's NBA prospects get when the Spurs no longer hold his rights.

[AFBlue]

it's funny how as soon as scola gets traded from the spurs his hype suddenly goes through the roof!

First, you can't accuse me of downplaying Scola's talent...

Second, I think Scola is a much better fit in the Rockets' offense than in the Spurs' offense.

Yao is a naturally passive player that prefers to operate off the low block. And though McGrady is naturally aggressive, the presence of another scorer will take the pressure off of him to feel the NEED to score.

Scola fills a VERY big need for the Rockets, and he fills it potentially VERY well.

[sa_kid20]

i wansn't talking about you specifically, i was just making an observation. it sucks that scola will never wear a spurs uniform but he should be in the nba and i'm at least happy for him that he'll get his shot

[mardigan]

And the Rockets are better off WITH him. Especially when all they had to give up was a SECOND ROUND PICK IN 2009!
I never said the Spurs didnt get enough back. I hated this trade as far as what they got back and gave up. I just cant stand all this love for a guy that hasnt proven shit in the league yet.
Im more pissed about them trading Butler to be honest with you

[AFBlue]

I never said the Spurs didnt get enough back. I hated this trade as far as what they got back and gave up. I just cant stand all this love for a guy that hasnt proven shit in the league yet.
Im more pissed about them trading Butler to be honest with you

I'm seriously pissed about them trading BOTH. I mean c'mon....they got rid of the ONLY two frontline players in the entire system (to include players that Spurs own right to) that have any semblence of a low-post game outside of Duncan. Yet, they re-sign a guy (Bonner) that at least for this year is duplicating the talent of another guy on the roster (Horry). I understand the deal was made for years beyond, but it's just unfortunate.

They also have decided to stick with Elson....which is beyond comprehension for me. This guy has one attribute...he runs fast. He occasionally finishes on the break, occasionally hits a 15-18ft shot, and occasionally blocks a shot...but I didn't think any of those things made up for his defensive miscues and IMO, they certainly didn't justify the Spurs FO trading Butler away to essentially give Elson ZERO competition at Center next season.

Bottom Line: I could see them giving up on one (especially if Scola never had any intention of signing with the Spurs), but I just can't believe they gave up on both, sent them to bolster an in-division playoff team, and got absolutely nothing in return.

[Leetonidas]

I'll be the only logical fan here and say Scola will put 12 and 5.

[inconvertible]

scola will win because he will out hustle most post players in the NBA by far.
he will avg 18 and 10.......w/o a doubt...............remember its a 48min game.

[mardigan]

scola will win because he will out hustle most post players in the NBA by far.
he will avg 18 and 10.......w/o a doubt...............remember its a 48min game.
:lol Ridiculous
Remember, he wont play 48 minutes a game

[inconvertible]

:lol Ridiculous
Remember, he wont play 48 minutes a game


no, but he will avg. more min than in europe. dipshit do the math.

[mardigan]

no, but he will avg. more min than in europe. dipshit do the math.
He will also be playing against much better competition "dipshit", but yet he will score more than guys like Dwight Howard, Shawn Marion and Shaq being probably the 4th or 5th option.
Right

[ArgSpursFan]

it all comes down to the coach and how fast He gets used to the NBA and the American way of living.
Living in South Texas wont be that hard to get used to,and he already played the best of the best of NBA in international tournaments,So it all comes down to his coach.If he gets the playing time He´ll be around the 15/7 this coming season.
To give you the perfect example,check what happened to Walter herrmann when he got some playing time last season.

[sabar]

Durant will be chucking too many shots his first season which will pretty much ensure his ppg is high enough to get roty, regardless of his fg%. Scola can't go around with 20 and 10 with tmac and yao right next to him.

[mardigan]

Durant will be chucking too many shots his first season which will pretty much ensure his ppg is high enough to get roty, regardless of his fg%. Scola can't go around with 20 and 10 with tmac and yao right next to him.
Not to mention addind Mike James, Bonzi coming back, and drafting a point guard chucker in Brooks.
Im not saying the guy cant be good in the NBA, but some people here are making it seem like its a given that Scola will come in right away and put up 17 and 8.
Look at all the players that have come over from Argentina, not one jas come over and made an immediate impact, but yet Scola will be a monster on a team where hes probably not even going to get many shots.

I think 8 points and 4 rebounds is more realistic

[ArgSpursFan]

Not to mention addind Mike James, Bonzi coming back, and drafting a point guard chucker in Brooks.
Im not saying the guy cant be good in the NBA, but some people here are making it seem like its a given that Scola will come in right away and put up 17 and 8.
Look at all the players that have come over from Argentina, not one jas come over and made an immediate impact, but yet Scola will be a monster on a team where hes probably not even going to get many shots.

I think 8 points and 4 rebounds is more realistic

Herrmann was a stud last season When He finally got a chance,and it was his roockie season.

[mardigan]

Herrmann was a stud last season When He finally got a chance,and it was his roockie season.
Scoring in bunches on a horrible team for the last 20 games of the season doesnt register to me as making an impact, it registers to me as the team wanting to see what he could do.
With that said he could be a very good player.
I just think some have very un-realistic expectations for Scola in his first year

[ArgSpursFan]

Scoring in bunches on a horrible team for the last 20 games of the season doesnt register to me as making an impact, it registers to me as the team wanting to see what he could do.
With that said he could be a very good player.
I just think some have very un-realistic expectaions for Scola in his first year

But It comes down again to the coach.Herrmann got a chance because of injuries,not coze the coach trusted him.
What i´m saying is:Scola with the coach trust and his teammates getting him envolved can be at 15/7.No doubt.

[itzsoweezee]

I never said the Spurs didnt get enough back. I hated this trade as far as what they got back and gave up. I just cant stand all this love for a guy that hasnt proven shit in the league yet.
Im more pissed about them trading Butler to be honest with you

so i guess you feel that way about every rookie then, right? i bet you must really hate oden and durant! all that hype without ever proving shit in the league yet!

[mardigan]

so i guess you feel that way about every rookie then, right? i bet you must really hate oden and durant! all that hype without ever proving shit in the league yet!
So your comparing Oden and Durant to Scola now.
They are both 19 years old to Scolas what, 28?
Living in America gives us the oppurtunity to watch these guys play in college against other future NBA players, where Scola plays where we dont get to watch him against lesser competition.
So to answer, no, I dont feel the same way

[itzsoweezee]

So your comparing Oden and Durant to Scola now.
They are both 19 years old to Scolas what, 28?
Living in America gives us the oppurtunity to watch these guys play in college against other future NBA players, where Scola plays where we dont get to watch him against lesser competition.
So to answer, no, I dont feel the same way

the best player in college deserves hype but the best player in europe doesn't. that makes perfect sense. you don't seriously think that durant or oden faced tougher competition than scola, do you?

[mardigan]

the best player in college deserves hype but the best player in europe doesn't. that makes perfect sense. you don't seriously think that durant or oden faced tougher competition than scola, do you?
Like I said, how many times does the average American get to see Tau play?
How many times does the average American see Durant and oden play?
Comparing a known commodity to an unknown commodity will always produce greater hype.
And yes, I think there are much more talented players at the collegiate level than in Euro-league.

[ArgSpursFan]

Like I said, how many times does the average American get to see Tau play?
How many times does the average American see Durant and oden play?
Comparing a known commodity to an unknown commodity will always produce greater hype.
And yes, I think there are much more talented players at the collegiate level than in Euro-league.

So,why is it that the spurs won 3 titles without a single domestic draft pick???explain that to me please.

[mardigan]

So,why is it that the spurs won 3 titles without a single domestic draft pick???explain that to me please.
Tim Duncan played at Wake Forest (most important one, or did you forget about him)
Michael Finley played at Wisconsin
Robert Horry played at Bama
Bruce Bowen played at Cal State Fullerton


Good fo managment would be my guess
And its funny that you left out the title in 99

[ArgSpursFan]

Tim Duncan played at Wake Forest (most important one, or did you forget about him)
Michael Finley played at Wisconsin
Robert Horry played at Bama
Bruce Bowen played at Cal State Fullerton


Good fo managment would be my guess
And its funny that you left out the title in 99

don´t change it now.I´m talking about drafts picks from 1999 to now,I belive that the guys you named were drafted before that,and not exacly by the spurs(besides Duncan)

[mardigan]

don´t change it now.I´m talking about drafts picks from 1999 to now,I belive that the guys you named were drafted before that,and not exacly by the spurs(besides Duncan)

So a player can only contribute if he was drafted by the SPurs after 99?
The only reason the SPurs are the SPurs is because of Tim, who went to Wake Forest, and David who went to the Naval Academy

[mardigan]

So,why is it that the spurs won 3 titles without a single domestic draft pick???explain that to me please.
Tim Duncan and David Robinson, and if you dont understand that you've got problems

Can you believe this shit?

[E20]

Manu during his rookie season in the PO's was pretty good for the Spurs.

[ArgSpursFan]

So a player can only contribute if he was drafted by the SPurs after 99?
The only reason the SPurs are the SPurs is because of Tim, who went to Wake Forest, and David who went to the Naval Academy

my point is:since the spurs started drafting international players and stoped draftind domestics they won 4 titles.would you agree on that?yes or no.

[ArgSpursFan]

the spurs used to get the intl players bc they could get them cheap

now the rest of the nba has been figuring out that tactic

yeah,they are cheaper and more efective too.

[mardigan]

my point is:since the spurs started drafting international players and stoped draftind domestics they won 4 titles.would you agree on that?yes or no.
Yes
But the titles have everything to do with Tim Duncan
Yes, Manu and Tony are huge parts, and even Fabbs, but players like Bowen, Finley and Horry are huge parts as well.

[ArgSpursFan]

Yes
But the titles have everything to do with Tim Duncan
Yes, Manu and Tony are huge parts, and even Fabbs, but players like Bowen, Finley and Horry are huge parts as well.
if you were R.C,who would you reather sign for 3 yrs 10 M?
Prooven Bonner or NBA Unprooven Scola?

[mardigan]

if you were R.C,who would you reather sign for 3 yrs 10 M?
Prooven Bonner or NBA Unprooven Scola?
To be honest, I wouldnt want to give either that kind of money
But at least Bonner's proven he can play in the NBA and that he is a good guy who works hard and doesnt cause distractions

[SRJ]

Adelman is a smart coach, so I don't think his tendency toward offense means that the Rockets will start scoring a bunch of points all of a sudden. He's got a good defensive squad, so I suspect the style of play won't change a whole lot. Therefore, Scola playing with Yao and T-Mac won't get a ton of shots. And for that, he'll probably average 8-10 points. He'll probably get around 5 rebounds a game with enough minutes - the Rockets have been really good at Opponents FG% the last few years and Yao is not a great rebounder.

Malik Rose (the player to whom Scola has been compared) in 2003 played 1933 minutes and grabbed 506 rebounds; over the 79 games he played that season, it came out to over 6 rebounds per. So yeah, Scola can probably get around 5 with the same minutes.

If Adelman is determined to change the Rockets' style of play, then Scola will get around 12 points per game.

[itzsoweezee]

Like I said, how many times does the average American get to see Tau play?
How many times does the average American see Durant and oden play?
Comparing a known commodity to an unknown commodity will always produce greater hype.
And yes, I think there are much more talented players at the collegiate level than in Euro-league.

but you didn't say that oden and durant didn't deserve the hype. if you're going to complain about something, be consistent. otherwise, it's just illogical hate.

if you really think that any college team could beat any team in the euro-league, you really don't know anything about basketball.

[mardigan]

but you didn't say that oden and durant didn't deserve the hype. if you're going to complain about something, be consistent. otherwise, it's just illogical hate.

if you really think that any college team could beat any team in the euro-league, you really don't know anything about basketball.
Ok, your right, the top 2 picks in the draft shouldnt have any hype
And I never said that a college team could beat a Euro team, just that there is more talent in the college game.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

No way. It'll be all Durant who is the centrepiece of a rebuilding Seattle and will take 25-30 shots a game by mid-season.

[Dartherus]

Actually, John Hollinger stated that there's a fairly consistent trend when Euros come from overseas and play in the NBA. Their FG% drops about 10 points and their rebounding goes up about 25%.

So, Scola could conceivably get 6 to 7 RPG if he's given 25-30MPG.

And scoring has never been the problem with Scola....I'd say he could very well average 14PPG.

But....I don't know about ROY
Scola had consistently 7 rpg in top Euro Basketball, fwiw, better rebound avg than what Oberto had there in his primetime. I guess that would indicate that he's at least a decent rebounder, don't u think?

[Findog]

Rookie of the Year? Don't you mean MVP and first-ballot Hall of Famer?

I'm guessing he will average 46 points and 24 rebounds on 87% shooting next year.

[Findog]

my point is:since the spurs started drafting international players and stoped draftind domestics they won 4 titles.would you agree on that?yes or no.

If that's all you're saying, yes, I agree, but that signifies nothing. Correlation does not equal causation.

Ginobili is an All-Star caliber player, and Oberto is a nice role player, but Duncan = Rings. Period. My point is since the Spurs drafted Duncan, they have 4 titles.

[OdenCouchDynasty]

Kevin will definitely get it but thanks to me Greg is no longer even a candidate.

[Kori Ellis]

You can stop trolling the Spurs forum now or have all your user names banned. Thanks.

One day, people will realize that jokes are funny once. Repeating yourself in every thread just to trash the forum isn't entertaining at all.

[JPB]

what ? No warning from Kori to Ducks for starting another Scola thread ?

Favoritism ?

[WalterBenitez]

Scola = Rof, nahhhhhhhhhhhhh

[ducks]

what ? No warning from Kori to Ducks for starting another Scola thread ?

Favoritism ?
07-13-2007, 05:10 PM is when I started this thread

[thispego]

Rockets will have the best record in the league this year and will take the suns place as the poster team of the league this season.. only to lose in the WCF to the Spurs. BOOK IT!

[Scola Trade]

I don't expect Scola to be ROY, just because there is too much hype around Kevin Durant. But Scola will be a solid starter for the Rockets (~12 ppg, 6 rpg). And we will pay the price of having to face the much imore mproved Rockets.

[saporvida]

i think scola will break a leg 2 wks into the season and sit for the rest. book it. hahaha.

[ducks]

well he does play for houston who players are always hurt

[midgetonadonkey]

Scola will average 42.4 ppg and 23 rpg. He will score 98 points in one game and get 8 quintuple doubles this season. He will also cure cancer with his 10 foot jumper and feed 56 million hungry African families by being the first person in the league to dunk from half court.

[spurscenter]

The kid from Texas is the next Carmelo Anthony

He will easily, hands down win the ROY if he stays healthy

The whole system is set up for him.

Durant is the hands down ROY, youll see

The man is gonna set some rookie records too.

[Demo Dick Marcinko]

The kid from Texas is the next Carmelo Anthony

He will easily, hands down win the ROY if he stays healthy

The whole system is set up for him.

Durant is the hands down ROY, youll see

The man is gonna set some rookie records too.

That's what I've thought, even before Oden got injured. I've seen all his games while at UT and he is simply incredible. He does something and all you can do is shake your head and go WOW! The guy will "rain" so many threes that they'll have to play in the shade. (little play on 300)

[saporvida]

my vote is for durant too... i like his style.

[DR WU]

Durant will turn all the skeptics into believers. He's all they got.

[The Franchise]

I'm a Huge Rockets fan so i can't believe i'm saying this but, COULD YOU PLEASE STOP THE FUCKING SCOLA THREADS MY HEAD IS BEGINNING TO HURT!!!!! :dizzy

[tmtcsc]

yet another scola thread....and here I go adding to the fire. Well, lessee...even though he plays a different position AND came off the bench, the greatest Argentinian player to ever lace em up in the NBA averaged 7.6 and 2 rb per game in his rookie season.

As for Scola...the man-love for that goofy looking dude is unreal. Honestly, its a joke. he will have a few big games but mostly 6 to 8 pts and 6 rebounds a game. And that's not bad for a rookie. I don't care how much Euro experience he has.

He still has a new system to learn and a new speed to play at, a grueling, ton of games to play through and bigger, taller bodies to play against. Why can't people see that ? In fact, people should start defending this guys value now. Start preaching how it will take him some time to adjust and learn.

My guess is that the same people saying he is so great now will be defending him not being a bust.

[tmtcsc]

Scola will average 42.4 ppg and 23 rpg. He will score 98 points in one game and get 8 quintuple doubles this season. He will also cure cancer with his 10 foot jumper and feed 56 million hungry African families by being the first person in the league to dunk from half court.


Don't forget that he will bring Peace to the Middle East and reconciliation between the Sunni's and Shiites in Iraq's insuregency. He will track down Osama Bin Laden, get him to surrender AND denounce terrorism. The next day...

Ughhh

[Oh, Gee!!]

I'm sure he'll beat Oden in votes

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Scola will average 42.4 ppg and 23 rpg. He will score 98 points in one game and get 8 quintuple doubles this season. He will also cure cancer with his 10 foot jumper and feed 56 million hungry African families by being the first person in the league to dunk from half court.
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