Summer League Game 8: Spurs vs. Jazz

[timvp]

Yes, summer league still isn't over. Despite Butler being traded, Sanikidze going back to Europe and White, Sommerville and Lee being injured, the Spurs summer league team has three more games to go.

The play the Jazz tonight. The team is basically Marcus Williams and that's about it at this point. Williams has been pretty horrible throughout summer league so a one man team featuring him should get ugly tonight.

The game is on TV ... but only in Salt Lake City. The game should also be on the radio for any ultimate hardcore Spurs fans out there.

I'll look for more specifics on the exact start time and a link to the radio station.

[SKINNYPIMP210]

Do They Even Have A Link On Nba.com?

[AFBlue]

God I hope Marcus has a breakout game.

[timvp]

Game starts 8PM CST.

I found these instruction on a Jazz forum on how to listen to the radio broadcast of the game:


I've read these forums for about a year, and kept seeing people post ways they could hear or watch the RMR games cause they didn't live in Utah and no one seemed to know. So i decided to make an account.

You can go here:

http://www.thegamelive.com/basketballnba.html#phe

and go down to utah jazz and click the 1320 station. Two local guys are doing ALL the jazz games live moutain time on the radio there.

Mine plays in the Windows Media Player.

If the link to connect to the radio doesnt work do this:
Go into windows media player and go to file and open url and copy and paste this link in there: http://mmslb.eonstreams.com/Playlist.wsx?PPID=3170 and it should take a second to buffer and your good to go.

Jazz Forum (http://jazzfanz.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=24553)

I just tested it and it worked for me. So far any hardcore Spurs fans who want to listen to the Spurs get destroyed by the Jazz, there you go.

:smokin

[Darkwaters]

Sanikidze going back to Europe


When did that happen? I never heard anything about this.

[timvp]

When did that happen? I never heard anything about this.After last game he flew back to the Republic of Georgia. Presumably to join his national team.

[Darkwaters]

After last game he flew back to the Republic of Georgia. Presumably to join his national team.

Crap, I must have missed that part. Well, at least on wednesday we can watch his last American outing on tape delay, right?

Judging by the minutes he got in SL I don't imagine he'll probably make the roster next season. But if he has a stellar outing with the Georgian national team I suppose that could change.

Needless to say, if hes not on the team this year then I think you have to add him the next season.

[whottt]

Man...the Bush admin didn't get the Bin Laden family out of here after 911 as clandestinely as the Spurs handled Sanikidze...

WTF is up with that?

I don't buy that it's because he was missing rotations and so he couldn't get on the court...everyone was missing rotations, including Butler. And just about everyone else sucked too, worse than Sanikidze, who actually has a pretty good excuse for sucking and not having the systems down. It's like he came here...exhibited talent in the area and at the position that the Spurs are desperate for it...and they tried to erase him from the public record.

It's just strange.

[Darkwaters]

Man...the Bush admin didn't get the Bin Laden family out of here after 911 as clandestinely as the Spurs handled Sanikidze...

WTF is up with that?

I don't buy that it's because he was missing rotations and so he couldn't get on the court...everyone was missing rotations, including Butler. And just about everyone else sucked too, worse than Sanikidze, who actually has a pretty good excuse for sucking and not having the systems down. It's like he came here...exhibited talent in the area and at the position that the Spurs are desperate for it...and they tried to erase him from the public record.

It's just strange.


Somebody posted a satirical article yesterday where the Spurs traded Splitter and Sanikidze away for cash considerations and then signed Beno to a 6 year, 60M dollar extension. I laughed pretty hard...but at this point it wouldn't surprise me.

You have to wonder what they're thinking right about now.

[mystargtr34]

updates?

[timvp]

updates?

Tied.
















0-0. Game about to start.

[timvp]

4:45 to go in first quarter. 12-10 Spurs.

Marcus Williams' line is as follows:

0 points
0 rebounds
0 anything

[timvp]

Millsap with the first 13 points for the Jazz :wow

[timvp]

Marcus Williams with an air ball out of bounds. Jazz commentators laughing :depressed

[timvp]

Pooh Jeter in for the Spurs :huh

[mystargtr34]

13 points to start the game? Marcus done anything yet.

[timvp]

13 points to start the game? Marcus done anything yet.

Only an airball out of bounds. That's it. Nothing else.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Pooh Jeter in for the Spurs :huh
Isn't Jeter was under contract with the Kings?

[FromWayDowntown]

This is exhilarating. My long work day is certainly being mitigated by listening to summer league basketball.

For whatever it's worth, these announcers remind me a bit of the Trinity University guys who do the football broadcasts on radio.

In any event, Spurs on a run!!

[mystargtr34]

Gadson is gone yes? Did we pick up Pooh?

[ace3g]

is Roberson playing tonight

[callo1]

Despite Milsap's 13pts 8reb and 1 assist in the 1st, the Spurs lead 25-20 at 7:03 in the 2nd.



More updates coming

Oh, btw, Watson is running the point very well atm...pushing the pace alot...I think the up tempo fits him much better.

[callo1]

Melzer just fed Harvey inside and the result was a major throw down dunk:)

[timvp]

callo1 - Is Williams doing anything or is he doing as bad as it sounds?

[callo1]

Actually, Williams D looks alot better tonight, and he just scored on a fastbreak. The entire Spurs team looks MUCH better tonight.

** 18-7 Spurs run. 36-24 Spurs @ 3:33 in the 2nd

[mystargtr34]

Millsap 13-8-1 in the first :S???

[timvp]

Williams scores :elephant

[callo1]

Millsap 13-8-1 in the first :S???


Yup.

[mystargtr34]

Unbefuckingleaevable

[mystargtr34]

About Williams scoring that is

[callo1]

Jeter has 6 pts off the bench and CJ has 10.

[mystargtr34]

Williams done anything else?? Scoree?

[mystargtr34]

even a turnover would be nice

[callo1]

41-33 Spurs at the half.

Ok, from what I have seen tonight, Watson, Williams, and Langford look MUCH better with an up tempo game...Watson has been excellent.

[timvp]

From what I can tell, Williams has two points, two assists and no rebounds at half.

[mystargtr34]

Whats a battle blog record?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Somebody posted a satirical article yesterday where the Spurs traded Splitter and Sanikidze away for cash considerations and then signed Beno to a 6 year, 60M dollar extension. I laughed pretty hard...but at this point it wouldn't surprise me.

You have to wonder what they're thinking right about now.

I think it's pretty obvious they're going to stash him until next year and then bring him over.

[callo1]

From what I can tell, Williams has two points, two assists and no rebounds at half.


True, but he has made some good passes that have resulted in scores or trips to the line...and has defended Almond well.

16 turnovers for the Jazz, 2 for the Spurs after the Spurs averaged 23 turnovers in the first 2 RMR games.

[callo1]

Williams scores !!

[callo1]

55-44 Spurs after 3 quarters.

Watson with 10 pts.

[timvp]

Spurs need to sign Pooh Jeter to a max contract if they win this game. This is the worst team in summer league and Jeter joins the team and the Spurs turn it around.

:drunk

[CubanMustGo]

Keep the score updates coming. It's a refreshing change from the crap shown in the last couple of games.

[callo1]

Williams having a bad 4th...2 turnovers and a technical.


**lead gone, tied at 57 with 6 mins left to play. Williams can NOT play the point.

[Darkwaters]

How much time is left?

[Darkwaters]

Williams missed a move to the rim.

[Darkwaters]

Tied at 57, 6:22 to go

[jaespur21]

jazz on a 13-2 run and game tied @ 57

[CubanMustGo]

Oh well, back to normal I guess :lol

[callo1]

I'd take Watson over Beno now...that isn't saying alot, but he has some speed to get to the rim.

[Darkwaters]

6-0 run spurs

[jaespur21]

i lost sound for a second but we R up six with watson hittin 2 shots....jazz just got a 3pt play...63-60

[Darkwaters]

Williams is sitting now.

[jaespur21]

williams sittin down Klangford in

[jaespur21]

Spurs play D...shotclock violation 3 and a half left up 2

[callo1]

66-64 Spurs with 2:37 left to play

[Horry For 3!]

Spurs are up 66-64 2:34 mins left

[jaespur21]

illegal screen by harvey SO jazz has the ball with a chance to lead or tie....3mins left

[Horry For 3!]

Millsap makes it 66-66

[jaespur21]

stupid announcers do the GGGG GGGG GUNIT for some dude lajeski chump....plus games tied now

[jaespur21]

SPURS Play MORE DEFENSE

[timvp]

Sounds like Watson is at shooting guard. Watson is probably a 1,000 times better off the ball.

[Horry For 3!]

Jeter hits a jumper 68-66

[callo1]

Jeter for 2 !!

[jaespur21]

jeter puts spurs up 2

[Horry For 3!]

Jeter hits another jumper 70-67

[jaespur21]

jeter does it again

[Darkwaters]

Jeter for MVP

[Horry For 3!]

Langford goin to the line

[callo1]

Spurs out rebounded by 20, but small lineup and active hands force 28 Jazz turnovers.

[Horry For 3!]

27 secs left

Spurs up 72-67

[timvp]

Jeter > Beno

[jaespur21]

Marcus sat down the final 4 mins of this game.

[ace3g]

sounds like this Pooh Jeter guy is doing well, I wonder if the spurs see something in him because he wasn't on the Spurs original roster for the RMR

[CubanMustGo]

Jeter > Beno

Lukewarm dog piss > Beno

[jaespur21]

Jeter > Beno

My fat brother is >than Beno

[Horry For 3!]

22 secs left

Spurs up 72-69

[Horry For 3!]

Jeter hits 2 fts

Spurs up 74-69

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Throw some Pooh at them. :smokin

[jaespur21]

TimVP THANKS 4 the link 4 sound...my ass was bored with tonights RAW it was eh

[Horry For 3!]

3.4 secs left

Spurs up 74-71

[callo1]

Jeter and Watson were the difference tonight.

Williams had some good play early on, but sucked bad in the 2nd half.

*Melzer works hard

Spurs 75, Jazz 71 game over.

[timvp]

How does Marcus Williams get benched in crunch time in a summer league game?

He must be worse than even my imagination tells me.

[Horry For 3!]

Spurs win 75-71

[jaespur21]

i think Marcus would be much much better if you put him next to manu and others bcuz mayb he will be left open after the other team is rotating, then he can use his skills once hes wide open

[jaespur21]

kinda of like how tony and manu plus every1 else lives off of timmys double and triple teams

[timvp]

Any win against the Jazz in Utah by the Spurs is a good win.

:hat

[Russ]

How does Marcus Williams get benched in crunch time in a summer league game?

He must be worse than even my imagination tells me.
Tiago Splitter will make up for Williams and the other marginal draft picks the past several years. :clap

[Darkwaters]

How does Marcus Williams get benched in crunch time in a summer league game?

He must be worse than even my imagination tells me.

We should have just taken Stanko.

[justanotherspursfan]

i think Marcus would be much much better if you put him next to manu and others bcuz mayb he will be left open after the other team is rotating, then he can use his skills once hes wide open
I wouldn't think that being actively defended by summer league scrubs would be much worse than being sagged off of in the NBA with real defenders.

[timvp]

I never want to see the Spurs draft another domestic player again. Marcus Williams is a joke.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Ship him to Seattle along with Brent for some of their exception.

[Darkwaters]

Ship him to Seattle along with Brent for some of their exception.

An exception has to be used up all at once. It can't be broken up (as far as I know).

Regardless, at this point I don't think that many people would be interested in Williams. What has he done whatsoever to give himself value? Even a player like Butler that stood out in SL only went for a future 2nd...and one of the best players in Europe was paired with him in that trade anyways. What are people going to give for a guy that simply blended in during SL? Lets put it this way: Beno Udrih > Anything 20 Marcus Williams would bring back in a trade.

Frankly, I'd like to have Williams sign with the Toros (on a DL contract, not NBA) and have the Spurs watch him there. If he continues to completely suck, sever ties. If he comes around then continue to watch him. BUt at this point, I'm pretty disinterested. I wish we had Marc Gasol or Stanko Barac instead.

[justanotherspursfan]

Ship him to Seattle along with Brent for some of their exception.
A second rounder with no contract is not likely to be attractive in a trade, given that he's likely to be on the street at the end of training camp.

[jdaveah]

I want everyone who argued with me about Williams being good to show themselves.

[pad300]

I never want to see the Spurs draft another domestic player again. Marcus Williams is a joke.

They should just hand over their collective scouting decisions (for americans at least), to this board. The accumulated recommendations that just about everyone agreed upon (players drafted after 33) from the draft thread were what
PGs: No real collective choice at the 33 spot

Smalls:
Dominic McGuire - Who looks good so far, Demetris Nichols - Ditto, Byars - No doing so well.

Bigs : Again, no real collective choice, but some names mentioned for 33 (or even 28)
Fazekas, Davis, McRoberts

Ending up with ANY of the above but Byars would have been a huge improvement so far...Hell, even Byars...

[LakeShow]

Sounds like my boy pooh did well tonight. Props to the spurs organization for giving him an opportunity to showcase his skills.

[timvp]

Boxscore:
http://www.nba.com/media/jazz/rmr07Game07.pdf

Williams' line ended up worse than I thought. 2-for-6 from the field, 0-for-2 at the line and no defensive rebounds.

He also picked up a technical. Those who watched ... any idea about how that happened? Would probably explain why he got benched for most of the fourth quarter.

[Mr. Body]

Pooh Jeter... played for another team in SL, right? How'd we pick him up? He was doing well there.

[Mr. Body]

We can take some consolation in Morris Almond also having a bad game... although he's had good ones this summer, while Williams hasn't had any.

[jaespur21]

I wouldn't think that being actively defended by summer league scrubs would be much worse than being sagged off of in the NBA with real defenders.

what like having derek fisher rotating on you or......mark madsen rotating right...... manu and tony plus BRUCE are able to play in this league bcuz of Timmy.

Manu and Tony are reaching that level where they can be a force on offense. shit manu makes this whole six man thing works with our old men bench bcuz he is a force offensively and gets other ppl open.... have manu dish to mWilliams and hopefully his athleticism takes over

[Mr. Body]

have manu dish to mWilliams and hopefully his athleticism takes over

Hopefully. Cuz his basketball skills won't.

[jaespur21]

Y not did you not have foxsports net and watch any of his games...the guy is decent.

[jaespur21]

wait my bad foxsports SouthWest its a regional thing here....the wildcats are shown every now and then

[Spurs Brazil]

Millsap's strong game overshadowed by loss

By Linda Hamilton
Deseret Morning News
Paul Millsap could see only turnovers and a loss.
Keith Johnson, Deseret Morning NewsUtah's Paul Millsap shoots over San Antonio's Marcellus Sommerville. The 20 points, strong shooting, 14 rebounds, two assists and two blocked shots were a distant memory as he sat in the Utah Jazz locker room at Salt Lake Community College Monday night following a 75-71 loss to the San Antonio Spurs on the third night of Rocky Mountain Revue play.
"We lost the game. That kind of killed all the stats," said the Jazz's second-year player who made such a big impression in his rookie season with a team that won two playoff series.
"It's good to have stats like that. It's good to win, too, so once we win games and I have stats like that, I'll look back and say I done a good job. But you know I turned the ball over six times, and that was a big key to our loss.
"Without the turnovers, it would have been a perfect night with a 'W.'"
Utah's 23 turnovers to just 11 for the Spurs, who got their first win of the Revue and left the Jazz 1-2.
It was one of just a few statistical categories San Antonio won, besides the final score.
Utah beat them on points in the paint 42-16, second-chance points 21-8, fast-break points 14-6, rebounds 44-22, assists 10-9, shooting percentage 41-37.
But the turnovers led to 25 Spurs points, and Millsap had two in the final two minutes.
The first of those came with him having just tied the game at 66 with a runner in the lane and the Jazz having a chance to take the lead when, near the top of the key, a San Antonian slapped the ball out of Millsap's hands, and the Spurs got a basket from Pooh Jeter (16 points), who scored again on the Spurs' next possession for a three-point lead.
A Morris Almond pass to Millsap got away out of bounds, and the Spurs pulled ahead by five.
When the ball was slapped from Millsap's grasp, his hand was whacked and bothered him the rest of the game. "It's real sore right now, got a little swelling in it," he said in the locker room. "I'm going to ice it. There's no excuses. You turn the ball over, you just turn it over. That's what loses games.
"I've got to try to make plays without turning the ball over. Once I do that, my goal will be accomplished for being here at the Revue. I've still got a lot to work on."
Teammate Kyrylo Fesenko, the 20-year-old 7-foot-1 Ukrainian whom the Jazz had Philadelphia draft for them in the second round June 28, had his best game so far and was instrumental in bringing the Jazz back from nine points down when he re-entered the game with about a minute left in the third quarter.
Like Millsap, he couldn't be happy. "When my team win, that's all," he said.
After picking up three quick fouls to open the fourth period, Fesenko rushed in from one corner with the ball for a lay-in plus free throw, was fouled and made one free throw.
What he did next was impressive, zooming in to get the rebound of his missed free throw and dunking the ball emphatically. He finished with a block and nine points — he'd scored zero and four points in the first two games despite some eye-opening play — and he was credited with two rebounds but thought he had more.
"It was just dunk. It was nice jump, that's all. Nothing special," Fesenko said of the play that sparked the Jazz.
"Players create opportunity for me to shot, and when they trust me to shot, I have to make them," he added. "The team is comfortable with me, and I like that," but he added that for the rest of the week, "I think we have to win all the games."
The Jazz again played without guard Ronnie Brewer, out with a sore hamstring and ankle sprain.

http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,695192723,00.html

[timvp]

The Spurs should have stuck to their international ways and picked Fesenko at 33.

[whottt]

If we'd kept the Greek SF...Vassilis would be here now.

[timvp]

If we'd kept the Greek SF...Vassilis would be here now.You were wrong. Give it up.
:smokin

[Darkwaters]

Considering how Williams worked out I would have been fine with a Splitter, Fesenko, Printezis draft (where we kept Printezis).

[AFBlue]

I understand that Williams has looked bad, even awful at times....

But aren't we rushing to judgement a bit too quickly on a kid that has played a total of 7 games on the semi-professional level, is 20yrs old, has played strong defense, and will no doubt work with CE on refining his shooting form.

I'm not saying he'll amount to anything on this level, but give him more than two weeks to prove his worth....I know the Spurs will.

[wildbill2u]

More than 80% of the late FIRST Round picks never pan out. God knows the percentage of 2nd rounders who succeed is pretty small.

I don't know why anyone would expect better odds on Williams or most of the other 2nd rounders.

[AFBlue]

More than 80% of the late FIRST Round picks never pan out. God knows the percentage of 2nd rounders who succeed is pretty small.

I don't know why anyone would expect better odds on Williams or most of the other 2nd rounders.

Actually there are alot of early second rounders that do pan out.

These are guys that fell for any number of reasons, but they went to lower-echelon teams that gave them the opportunity to showcase their ability.

Guys like Gilbert Arenas, Carlos Boozer, Michael Redd managed to slip to the early-mid second round...and those are just the superstars.

There are plenty of productive NBA players (Okur, Gomes, etc.) that may never be superstars that can be found with those spots.

Bottom Line: Williams may never be one of those greats or even one of those goods, but simply writing him off because of where he was selected and/or because of 7 semi-pro games probably isn't the smartest thing.

[Mr. Body]

More than 80% of the late FIRST Round picks never pan out. God knows the percentage of 2nd rounders who succeed is pretty small.

I don't know why anyone would expect better odds on Williams or most of the other 2nd rounders.

I do think the Spurs took the same dartboard approach to tagging Williams. But look at the Knicks, whose two draft picks, including one very, very late, are panning out AGAIN.

[ThomasGranger]

I do think the Spurs took the same dartboard approach to tagging Williams. But look at the Knicks, whose two draft picks, including one very, very late, are panning out AGAIN.

Yep, Demetris Nichols (acquired with the 53 pick via trade from Portland) is looking much more promising than Williams at this point.

[Jules]

Spurs need to sign Pooh Jeter to a max contract if they win this game. This is the worst team in summer league and Jeter joins the team and the Spurs turn it around.

:drunk

Yes!!!

POOH JETER D-LEAGUE 2006-2007
“DRAFT EXPRESS ROOKIE OF THE YEAR”

(LOS ANGELES., July 2, 2007) – Colorado 14ers point guard, Eugene “Pooh” Jeter, is named Draft Express’ Rookie of the Year! This former University of Portland player was the school’s No. 2 All-Time leading scorer.

After a chart topping 4 years at UP, Jeter spent his 2006 pre-season at the Sacramento Kings’ training camp. The Kings brought Jeter along with them to the 2006 NBA Summer League in Las Vegas where he averaged 8.0 points, 1.8 rebounds and 1.8 assists in five games. Post Summer League, Jeter was drafted in the third round by the Colorado 14ers of the NBA Development League for their 2006-2007 season.

With an up-tempo style of play, Jeter was a star on the 14ers! He was one of three players to start every game and had a 3:1 assist turnover ratio. He had a season high of 34 points against the Idaho Stampede and a career high of 16 assists against the Bakersfield Jam. Jeter also made his presence known on the defensive end; he averaged 32.8 minutes per game, 15 points, 7.1 assists, 3.0 rebounds, 2.6 turnovers and had a .885 free-throw percentage.

“Pooh” Jeter received an Honorable Mention acknowledgement by the D-League coaches for the 2006-2007 season. This rookie from UP engineered the top shooting and top offense ranking in the D-League for the 2006-2007 season. Jeter’s influential style of play helped take the14ers to the D-League playoffs where he averaged 25.6 points, 8.3 assists, 3.0 rebounds and 2.7 turnovers. Jeter help lead the 14ers to Western Division Championship where they were defeated by the Dakota Wizards in overtime by 3 points; Jeter finished with 30 points and 8 assists

As the 2006-2007 “Draft Express Rookie of the Year,” this 5’11” point guard knows how to run an offense and find the open man with his incredible speed and quickness. For the 2006-2007 NBA season, Jeter and the Colorado 14ers led the world in professional basketball averaging 112 points per game; the Phoenix Suns placed second with 110 points. With 8 double-doubles in points and assists, Jeter was named to the NBA Development League Western All Star Team (the first-ever D-League All Star Game), where his talents were featured on NBA TV as one of the top ten plays of the year.

In his senior year at the University of Portland, Jeter led the Pilots in scoring (18.5), free throw percentage (.869), assists (3.0), steals (1.2) and minutes played per game (36.0). Jeter was a First Team All-WCC selection for the 2003-04 and 2005-06 seasons. In 2004, Jeter was named to the Top of the World Classic all-tourney team. In December 2004 and February 2006, Jeter was named the WCC “Player of the Week.” Season highlights in his senior year include a 76-62 victory over Oregon State with 20 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and 3 steals and a win over Oregon (80-72) where he tallied 25 points, 2 assists and 2 steals. Jeter reached double figure scoring in 20-of-26 games in his senior year at UP, finishing fourth overall in WCC scoring and his scoring average in Conference Games was second overall after Adam Morrison.

Jeter ended his tenure at University of Portland’s with the best all-time free throw percentage (.846) and ranked among the top 10 in UP history in three-pointers (second - 200), steals (third - 160), free throws made (third - 408), field goals made (fifth - 550), assists (sixth - 346) and three-point percentage (eighth - .373). He was a three-time All-West Coast Conference selection during his four years at UP with 1,708 in total career points.

The Sacramento Kings have again selected “Pooh” Jeter to represent them in the 2007 NBA Summer League games in Las Vegas. Jeter is also currently featured in the D-League “Miller Lite Go Pro Challenge” commercial, “Do You Have What It Takes?”

“Pooh” Jeter’s impressive credentials proves that he has more than what it takes! His aptitude of this game and playing abilities far exceeds any coach’s expectations. “Pooh” Jeter loves the game of basketball, and it shows every time he steps foot on a court!

[Reckless28]

Considering how Williams worked out I would have been fine with a Splitter, Fesenko, Printezis draft (where we kept Printezis).


I agree.

Jeter sounds like a good fit. Put him at 3rd point guard.

[wildbill2u]

The handful of players who make it each year only prove the odds are correct. Most don't and its a crapshoot.