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pussyface
07-20-2007, 10:03 PM
does anyone on this faggy board still enjoy pugalism?
I for one am very excited for this fight.

I think both of these guys are all-timers...Hopkins is one of the alltime great middleweights/champions and winky wright is in my opinion one of the most technically sound practitioners of the sport to ever quietly excel while being painfully boring and failing to capture the public's imagination.

Hopkins is the coolest man and best interview in sports, but objectievly I think this as a dead-even fight. I think it will be very close to a draw and will go to cards. I see almost no chance for a decisive victory for either.

...then again i didn't think Hopkins could beat Mason Dixon Tarver last time out and that was a triumph.

in other news, i was a little embarassed for spurstalk.com when i saw no thread for this potential classic 24 hours prior to round 1. they should just rename the "other sports" forum to "mixed-martial arts homoerotic fuckfest."

Evan
07-20-2007, 11:06 PM
they should just rename the "other sports" forum to "mixed-martial arts homoerotic fuckfest."


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Make It So

cornbread
07-21-2007, 11:58 AM
The king of the faggy fags has returned to cry more about the lack of boxing threads! Welcome back!

And yes, I will be watching the fight.

atxrocker
07-21-2007, 01:42 PM
fuck yeah i want to watch this fight. i didn't start a thread on it because most posters in this forum don't dig boxing. anyone know where they are showing it for free in austin tonight?

edit: bagpipes in austin is having the fight with no cover. a friend of mine is getting it afterall so i'll watch it there. should be good!

atxrocker
07-21-2007, 01:43 PM
should be a classic btw, but i got winky on this fight.

mFFL03
07-21-2007, 05:38 PM
what time will the fight actually start as opposed to it's broadcasting start time, anyone have a clue?

atxrocker
07-22-2007, 10:06 AM
the fight turned out to be super boring. not exactly a favor to the boxing world.

scott
07-22-2007, 12:15 PM
Boring fight and a horrible decision. I'm curious what match the judges were watching.

cornbread
07-22-2007, 05:40 PM
If hugging were a sport, Hopkins-Wright could be up there as one of the greatest matches of all time.

At least the fighters on the undercard made the first half of the evening entertaining.

pussyface
07-22-2007, 11:32 PM
I think it will be very close to a draw and will go to cards. I see almost no chance for a decisive victory for either.

i had this one pretty well pegged.
the biggest buzz-kill of the fight for me was the dressing down it recieived from the hbo crew (2nd place: constant refereeing needed throughout). i appreciated them being candid about not liking the fight, but i thought their criticisms of the fighters were unfair.

they commented as if these guys were two dinosuars who couldn't beat anyone other than a fellow dinosaur. what a joke.

admittedly, both fighters have detereorated in some respects physically (although not "deminished" as kellerman and co. kept saying.)

want proof these guys are still relevent? how about the fact that last time out winky wright took jermaine taylor to school in a fight that was laughably ruled a draw. is jermaine taylor any good or what, hbo?

last time out, stegasauraus hopkins dominated antonio tarver. this is no small feat in its own right.
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a classic case of "styles make fights" and 2 styles predictably not meshing too well. for what its worth, i thought Hopkins won the fight. when they announced the scores (wide margins, unanamous) i felt certain that he had won. throughout the fight i was also very puzzled with the incoherent howard lederman and his inane scoring of the fight that went against everything the rest of the booth was saying.

upside of last night: possible fight for hopkins with welsh white hope next time out.

pussyface
07-22-2007, 11:34 PM
thumbs down to my hero for coming out to bullshit generic rap this time out.
when he came out to "this is a man's world" for hopkins/taylor 2 it was just about the coolest thing i've seen.

SAtoDallas
07-23-2007, 09:50 AM
Did you guys really think this was going to be an exciting fight? I have total respect for both of them, but remember styles make fights and when you have two defensive minded fighters that equals borefest, which is why I wasn't going to watch. Now next month we have Marquez/Vasquez II that is gonna be fun while it lasts.

degenerate_gambler
07-23-2007, 10:28 AM
Now next month we have Marquez/Vasquez II that is gonna be fun while it lasts.


That should be a good one.

I also think Forrest/Baldomir this weekend will be a pretty good fight as well.

LEONARD
07-23-2007, 10:46 AM
does anyone on this faggy board still enjoy pugalism? I for one am very excited for this fight.

more of a fighting fan than a boxing fan...


in other news, i was a little embarassed for spurstalk.com when i saw no thread for this potential classic 24 hours prior to round 1. they should just rename the "other sports" forum to "mixed-martial arts homoerotic fuckfest."

LOL...you clearly have some issues that you need to deal with...

but you're right, MMA should have it's own forum..."other sports" isn't worthy to have it... :fro


i had this one pretty well pegged.

Good call on your part...you all but predicted boredom without saying it. Yet you ripped this forum for not having a thread about this "potential classic" that turned out to be a snoozer...good stuff.


i was also very puzzled with the incoherent howard lederman and his inane scoring of the fight that went against everything the rest of the booth was saying.

"Incoherent" and old school boxing people seem to go hand in hand...


the fight turned out to be super boring. not exactly a favor to the boxing world.

Welcome to the "sweet (outdated) science"... :lol

Let me guess...they danced around and had a contest to see who could land more punches in X number of rounds and the guy that landed the most won?? :lol

pussyface
07-23-2007, 01:33 PM
Welcome to the "sweet (outdated) science"... :lol

saying boxing is outdated is like saying baseball is outdated.

if they ever came out with a sport thats baseball + metal music + you can try to kick the 2nd and 3rd baseman to free yourself, idiots like you would be saying the same about baseball. both sports are american as apple pie, just apparently not to your mtv-generation, aj soprano style liking.



Let me guess...they danced around and had a contest to see who could land more punches in X number of rounds and the guy that landed the most won?? :lol

this is not how boxing works. if you've ever watched before (and I give you credit for at least admitting that you aren't a fan so you shouldn't be expected to have even a basic understanding of the sport) frequently the numbers don't tell the story of who won a fight and are ignored by judges/commentators in scoring.

often times, a fighter may land well less than half of the punches of their opponent and win decisively either by decision or knockout. Not sure where this comment came from other than ignorance.

"compubox" numbers, as even a casual boxing observer understands, only tell a fraction of the story and are by no means a sole basis for judgement by refs, commentators, etc.

LEONARD
07-23-2007, 01:52 PM
saying boxing is outdated is like saying baseball is outdated.

if they ever came out with a sport thats baseball + metal music + you can try to kick the 2nd and 3rd baseman to free yourself, idiots like you would be saying the same about baseball. both sports are american as apple pie, just apparently not to your mtv-generation, aj soprano style liking.

this is not how boxing works. if you've ever watched before (and I give you credit for at least admitting that you aren't a fan so you shouldn't be expected to have even a basic understanding of the sport) frequently the numbers don't tell the story of who won a fight and are ignored by judges/commentators in scoring.

often times, a fighter may land well less than half of the punches of their opponent and win decisively either by decision or knockout. Not sure where this comment came from other than ignorance.

"compubox" numbers, as even a casual boxing observer understands, only tell a fraction of the story and are by no means a sole basis for judgement by refs, commentators, etc.

I doubt if anybody will ever come up with a more entertaining "baseball" than what we currenly have. That's been done with MMA...it's a more entertaining combat sport...a fight instead of a boxing match. I love baseball actually...

I don't get your "baseball + metal music + you can try to kick the 2nd and 3rd baseman" comment. So THAT is to baseball as MMA is to boxing?? :lol

Glad to see you picked up on my compubox sarcasm...I know compubox numbers doesn't equal victory necessarily. I used to be a boxing fan and I still watch the occasional big fight (streamed for free of course), but more often than not I'm left incredibly disappointed and bored...

So in conclusion, you're feeling pretty good about the current state of boxing? :drunk :hat :smokin

Or are you lashing out at MMA because the opposite is true?? :oops

2centsworth
07-23-2007, 02:18 PM
I'm a huge boxing fan and gotta say this is the first time in 3 years boxing has some momentum.

The welterweight division is out of this world. You have a bunch of awesome records and fighters about to fight each other over the next 2 years. This is very similar to the Oscar, Trinidad, Vargas, Winky Wright, Cortey, Mosley days.

This is a sport that desperately needs a shot of adreneline and i think we've got some.

We have: Miguel Cotto, Paul Williams, Shane Mosely, Antonio Margarito, Kermitt Cintron, Floyd Mayweather, and Ricky Hatton. All these guys are about to mix it up and though not household names, the fights have been and should continue to be exciting. Also, Vargas vs Mayorga should be fun.

Also, you have fighters in the lighter weight classes like Juan Diaz and Manny Pacquiao who should fight soon.


Nothing major like Sugar Ray vs Marvin Hagler or Tyson vs Holifield, so mostly only fans of the sport will appreciate it.

Long-term boxing desperately needs some USA olympic champions. Julio Cesear Chavez Jr. being real good wouldn't hurt either.


For my MMA brothers, I'm happy MMA has filled some of the void. Nevertheless, for me an excellent boxing match will always be more thrilling than an excellent MMA match because boxing matches are longer and have the potential for more back and forth.

That doesn't mean much because I prefer a thrilling college football game over a thrilling Spurs game and I'm a spurs nut.

Avitus1
07-23-2007, 03:06 PM
Boring match....

LEONARD
07-23-2007, 06:22 PM
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:ihit

Evan
07-23-2007, 07:47 PM
awesome

2centsworth
07-24-2007, 10:08 AM
My question is what's with all the penis envy from MMA fans? Everytime boxing is mentioned you get a bunch of MMA fans trying to talk the sport down to build themselves up. You guys act like Dallas Mavs fan...oh I almost forgot. Well as a spurs fan I'm used to other fans craving the attention.

cornbread
07-24-2007, 10:21 AM
My question is what's with all the penis envy from MMA fans? Everytime boxing is mentioned you get a bunch of MMA fans trying to talk the sport down to build themselves up. You guys act like Dallas Mavs fan...oh I almost forgot. Well as a spurs fan I'm used to other fans craving the attention.Did you even read the thread? Here's how it started.

does anyone on this faggy board still enjoy pugalism?
I for one am very excited for this fight.

I think both of these guys are all-timers...Hopkins is one of the alltime great middleweights/champions and winky wright is in my opinion one of the most technically sound practitioners of the sport to ever quietly excel while being painfully boring and failing to capture the public's imagination.

Hopkins is the coolest man and best interview in sports, but objectievly I think this as a dead-even fight. I think it will be very close to a draw and will go to cards. I see almost no chance for a decisive victory for either.

...then again i didn't think Hopkins could beat Mason Dixon Tarver last time out and that was a triumph.

in other news, i was a little embarassed for spurstalk.com when i saw no thread for this potential classic 24 hours prior to round 1. they should just rename the "other sports" forum to "mixed-martial arts homoerotic fuckfest."Now you tell me. Who has the "penis envy"?

Evan
07-24-2007, 10:21 AM
My question is what's with all the penis envy from MMA fans? Everytime boxing is mentioned you get a bunch of MMA fans trying to talk the sport down to build themselves up. You guys act like Dallas Mavs fan...oh I almost forgot. Well as a spurs fan I'm used to other fans craving the attention.

Who is creating threads bashing the other sport? Is it boxing fans or mma fans?

LEONARD
07-24-2007, 10:21 AM
My question is what's with all the penis envy from MMA fans? Everytime boxing is mentioned you get a bunch of MMA fans trying to talk the sport down to build themselves up. You guys act like Dallas Mavs fan...oh I almost forgot. Well as a spurs fan I'm used to other fans craving the attention.

Perhaps you missed pussyface's original statements in this thread???


does anyone on this faggy board still enjoy pugalism?

they should just rename the "other sports" forum to "mixed-martial arts homoerotic fuckfest."

He had to expect some shots from the MMA side of the fence after that bull$hit...

and it certainly goes both ways. Boxing fans put down MMA, MUCH more harshly than MMA fans do boxing IMO. Some boxing fans try to dismiss it as a fad, bar fight, or "homoerotic fuckfest." Some MMA fans say that boxing is dying or that it's boring. Which sounds more like "penis envy?" Boxing fans have much more venom for MMA than MMA fans do for boxing. Boxing is the established combat sport...it's org's and fans feel threatened by MMA (they wouldn't talk about it if they weren't). Not the opposite...

LEONARD
07-24-2007, 10:22 AM
Triple ownage all in the same minute :lol

Cornbread...we typed the same $hit for the most part :fro

atxrocker
07-24-2007, 10:24 AM
i don't give a fuck who bashes who. the fact that grown men (i hope) bicker so much like they belong to different cliques is fucking sad. like a bunch of school age girls.

cornbread
07-24-2007, 10:27 AM
Triple ownage all in the same minute :lol

Cornbread...we typed the same $hit for the most part :fro
Talk about weak sauce. :lol

dickface
07-24-2007, 10:32 AM
i don't give a fuck who bashes who. the fact that grown men (i hope) bicker so much like they belong to different cliques is fucking sad. like a bunch of school age girls.
so in prison, you laughed at all the cliques and told them they were acting like school girls? you must have got assfucked nonstop.

atxrocker
07-24-2007, 10:37 AM
first, this ain't prison. you may want to ease off my nuts, they're starting to get sore from bitches like you riding them. second, post under your real screenname you fucking pussy if you're gonna try to talk shit in this thread. third, if it were prison this shit would get handled with fists and wouldn't be a lingering bitchfest you dumb shit.

cornbread
07-24-2007, 10:41 AM
:dramaquee

dickface
07-24-2007, 10:43 AM
first, this ain't prison. you may want to ease off my nuts, they're starting to get sore from bitches like you riding them. second, post under your real screenname you fucking pussy if you're gonna try to talk shit in this thread. third, if it were prison this shit would get handled with fists and wouldn't be a lingering bitchfest you dumb shit.
damn....so sensitive....i guess that talk about you getting assfucked in jail struck a nerve...

Evan
07-24-2007, 10:46 AM
:clap

LEONARD
07-24-2007, 11:00 AM
i don't give a fuck who bashes who. the fact that grown men (i hope) bicker so much like they belong to different cliques is fucking sad. like a bunch of school age girls.

You do realize this is an internet forum? That's what it's forum...

There is no bickering between Mavs and Spurs fans around here?? :lol


if it were prison this shit would get handled with fists and wouldn't be a lingering bitchfest you dumb shit.

Would it be a boxing match or a fight? :lol

atxrocker
07-24-2007, 11:05 AM
There is no bickering between Mavs and Spurs fans around here?? :lol

see but there is the difference. arguing over different teams in the same sport/league and crying and bitching over completely different sports over which one is better or coming up or dying or gaining momentum or losing it is fucking stupid and pointless. both sports have their respective fans (i am a neutral fan of both, for the record) it just seems irrelevant to argue over this shit. if you like it, watch it. if you don't, then shut the fuck up and stick to what you do like. why is that so hard?



Would be a boxing match or a fight? :lol


:lol i guess it could be called dirty boxing since some street fighting would be involved.

LEONARD
07-24-2007, 11:09 AM
see but there is the difference. arguing over different teams in the same sport/league and crying and bitching over completely different sports over which one is better or coming up or dying or gaining momentum or losing it is fucking stupid and pointless. both sports have their respective fans (i am a neutral fan of both, for the record) it just seems irrelevant to argue over this shit. if you like it, watch it. if you don't, then shut the fuck up and stick to what you do like. why is that so hard?

:lol i guess it could be called dirty boxing since some street fighting would be involved.

It seems that all your points could apply to 2 different NBA teams just as easily...

Arguing over which one is:
better
coming up
dying
gaining momentum
losing it

Both TEAMS have their respective fans. It is irrelevant to argue over which team is better. Just watch your team and STFU...

but we don't...especially on internet forums... :lol

2centsworth
07-24-2007, 11:40 AM
Who is creating threads bashing the other sport? Is it boxing fans or mma fans?
I absolutely read what started the thread, but it wasn't an insult of MMA the sport. It was an insult of the three MMA homoerotic posters. There's a difference. And from the looks of this thread the homoerotic posters have proved PF's point.


OWNED!

LEONARD
07-24-2007, 11:52 AM
I absolutely read what started the thread, but it wasn't an insult of MMA the sport. It was an insult of the three MMA homoerotic posters. There's a difference. And from the looks of this thread the homoerotic posters have proved PF's point.

OWNED!

LOL...wow...Dio is that you???

This looks like bashing MMA the sport, not anybody that posts here, to me...


they should just rename the "other sports" forum to "mixed-martial arts homoerotic fuckfest."

:dizzy

Evan
07-24-2007, 11:58 AM
I absolutely read what started the thread, but it wasn't an insult of MMA the sport. It was an insult of the three MMA homoerotic posters. There's a difference. And from the looks of this thread the homoerotic posters have proved PF's point.


OWNED!

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2centsworth
07-24-2007, 12:22 PM
LOL...wow...Dio is that you???

This looks like bashing MMA the sport, not anybody that posts here, to me...



:dizzy
why would a fuckfest be used to describe MMA the sport? It's not, it was used to describe the 3 or 4 posters. Again, I don't see why this thread has so many MMA posters or viewers if as they describe boxing is boring. I would think for something so boring it would be ignored.

Don't be blind leonard and my post haven't been directed as much to you as they have been to the appropriately described "homoerotic" MMA posters.

Evan
07-24-2007, 12:26 PM
why would a fuckfest be used to describe MMA the sport? It's not, it was used to describe the 3 or 4 posters. Again, I don't see why this thread has so many MMA posters or viewers if as they describe boxing is boring. I would think for something so boring it would be ignored.

Don't be blind leonard and my post haven't been directed as much to you as they have been to the appropriately described "homoerotic" MMA posters.

I said it was boring?

cornbread
07-24-2007, 12:30 PM
why would a fuckfest be used to describe MMA the sport? It's not, it was used to describe the 3 or 4 posters. Again, I don't see why this thread has so many MMA posters or viewers if as they describe boxing is boring. I would think for something so boring it would be ignored.

Don't be blind leonard and my post haven't been directed as much to you as they have been to the appropriately described "homoerotic" MMA posters.
Says the guy who can barely make a post without using the word "penis" while he defends another poster who can't make a post without referring to homosexuality in one way or another. :lol

Nobody described boxing as boring in this thread. The fight was described as boring, which it was. Why would I throw down money and watch boxing every month if I thought it was boring? Don't be blind 2centsworth.

LEONARD
07-24-2007, 12:36 PM
why would a fuckfest be used to describe MMA the sport? It's not, it was used to describe the 3 or 4 posters. Again, I don't see why this thread has so many MMA posters or viewers if as they describe boxing is boring. I would think for something so boring it would be ignored.

Don't be blind leonard and my post haven't been directed as much to you as they have been to the appropriately described "homoerotic" MMA posters.

I see non-MMA fans describe MMA as gay, men hugging on the ground, etc etc all the time. "Homoerotic fuckfest" seems to fit right in line with that. I'm sure that's what the TS intended...

I guess I missed who the "homoerotic MMA posters" are...Mr Dio never posts here anymore... :lol

atxrocker
07-24-2007, 12:38 PM
what happened to dio anyways... some of his posts were entertaining.

cornbread
07-24-2007, 12:41 PM
what happened to dio anyways... some of his posts were entertaining.
I don't know. I miss reading he and Leonard's Battle Royals.

cornbread
07-24-2007, 12:42 PM
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LEONARD
07-24-2007, 12:51 PM
what happened to dio anyways... none of his posts were entertaining.

*fixed

The last time I saw him post here it was in the UFC 71 thread, and he didn't even address Rampage knocking Chuck out. He was quick to post 10 threads about Gomi and Crocop though. What a tool...

He's not around much it seems...
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=382423

Let's keep it that way... :fro

2centsworth
07-24-2007, 12:59 PM
I see non-MMA fans describe MMA as gay, men hugging on the ground, etc etc all the time. "Homoerotic fuckfest" seems to fit right in line with that. I'm sure that's what the TS intended...

I guess I missed who the "homoerotic MMA posters" are...Mr Dio never posts here anymore... :lol
let me help you with that.

Cornbread, Evan, and I haven't seen the other two in here yet so they will remain nameless.

LEONARD
07-24-2007, 01:24 PM
Don't be blind leonard and my post haven't been directed as much to you as they have been to the appropriately described "homoerotic" MMA posters.


let me help you with that. Cornbread, Evan, and I haven't seen the other two in here yet so they will remain nameless.

:dizzy :dizzy :dizzy

Evan
07-24-2007, 01:29 PM
let me help you with that.

Cornbread, Evan, and I haven't seen the other two in here yet so they will remain nameless.

How exactly did I get in your cross-hairs?