Man Vs. Wild

[Bear Grylls]

For you wankers that like to watch me in action, turn it on Discovery Channel now. At 12 you can watch me in Scotland and at 1 you can catch the Kimberly Australia episode.

[NorCal510]

I am watching you right now in Ecuador's Cloud Forest.

[Xolotl]

Holy crap I didn't know it was on thanks Bear :lol

[ALVAREZ6]

That show is constantly on.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Fucking gay that it's not on my HD Natl Geo channel. I have to watch this on crappy regular channel.

[E20]

:lol @ I drink Elephant Poo. LMAO

[ALVAREZ6]

WTF is up with that new show they're making, called Survivor Man??


It's exactly like Man vs. Wild, only with some other dude.


I hope when both shows are filming, they run into each other in the wild and Bear will have to kill Survivor Man in order to feed himself. That would be classic.

[Flight3107]

WTF is up with that new show they're making, called Survivor Man??


It's exactly like Man vs. Wild, only with some other dude.


I hope when both shows are filming, they run into each other in the wild and Bear will have to kill Survivor Man in order to feed himself. That would be classic.


Survivorman is not new, it was on before Man Vs. Wild


Unlike Bear, Les Stroud carries and films everything by himself.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Survivorman is not new, it was on before Man Vs. Wild


Unlike Bear, Les Stroud carries and films everything by himself.Stroud >>>>Grylls

[E20]

I like Grylls better just cause of the guy's voice. I mean he sounds so calm and assuring, yet he's throwing up and drinking Elephant poo. Plus that British accent kicks ass.

Grylls >>>> Surviorman, because Grylls was in the British special forces(? or something like that) and the guy is built, in a head-to-head fight Grylls would punch the elephant poo out of him.

[nsrammstein]

Les strouds shows YOU the average fat american lazy ass motherfucker what to do, you would NEVER be able to do the thing bear does.

[nsrammstein]

The three keys for survivial are 1- Shelter 2 - Wait 3 - Fire

[nsrammstein]

Did anyone catch him being interviewed on Conan O'brien ? fucking hillarious!

[leemajors]

the shows are very different. besides, didn't this shit premiere on friday?

[peewee's lovechild]

The best part of the Scottish Highlands episode is when he skins that dead ram.

He's just too cool.

[Soul_Patch]

christ peewee that girl in your sig is just jaw dropping....who is she?

[CuckingFunt]

christ peewee that girl in your sig is just jaw dropping....who is she?Anne Hathaway

[Flea]

I caught a BG show not too long ago and he was eating some kind of slimy, slug like insect. :vomit:

[tlongII]

Anybody that drinks his own pee has my respect.

[peewee's lovechild]

Anne Hathaway

Well, I thought it was a picture of CF . . .

[TxJudsonRocketTx]

Anybody that drinks his own pee has my respect.

:lol or pisses on his own shirt just so he can wear it on his head

[Kori Ellis]

I watched this show yesterday for the first time. It sucks.

It's so fake. If he's dying from the heat, why is the camera crew fine? The whole time it feels like there's a resort just off camera and he's just pretending to be trying to survive.

I was so disappointed because I thought it might be good.

[TxJudsonRocketTx]

It's so fake. If he's dying from the heat, why is the camera crew fine? The whole time it feels like there's a resort just off camera and he's just pretending to be trying to survive.


I think the camera crew is fine because they might have water and whatever needed to lug cameras around film the guy. Even if it is fake, he does some pretty crazy shit like floating down the Colorado river for 11 miles with just his backpack to keep him floating. I didnt start watching the show until I heard about the drinking game on here and I've been watching ever since.

[Thunder Dan]

I saw him drink water from elephant shit one time, right them and there I knew he was hardcore

[Flight3107]

I watched this show yesterday for the first time. It sucks.

It's so fake. If he's dying from the heat, why is the camera crew fine? The whole time it feels like there's a resort just off camera and he's just pretending to be trying to survive.

I was so disappointed because I thought it might be good.



The camera crew is fine because they get supplies.

[E20]

I watched this show yesterday for the first time. It sucks.

It's so fake. If he's dying from the heat, why is the camera crew fine? The whole time it feels like there's a resort just off camera and he's just pretending to be trying to survive.

I was so disappointed because I thought it might be good.
It's not about the group trying to survive, it's just about Bear. The crew is there in case if he can't make it then they are there to help. The places he goes to are real. LMAO The Australian Outback, A Costa Rican Rain Forest, The Pacific Ocean, The Rocky mountains, African Savannah, just to name a few of the places he gets deserted, aren't likely places for resorts..........

[TheSanityAnnex]

But how are we to know that Bear isn't given a nice cup of hot tea, and sleeping bag, a hearty dinner, etc when the camera's turn off for him to "sleep".

Survivor man is out there by himself, he's got nobody. Bear has the safety net of an entire crew.

[E20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls

They guys is fucking hardcore and he has the credentials to back it up. He's a less buff version of Rambo.

[E20]

But how are we to know that Bear isn't given a nice cup of hot tea, and sleeping bag, a hearty dinner, etc when the camera's turn off for him to "sleep".

Survivor man is out there by himself, he's got nobody. Bear has the safety net of an entire crew.
Even if that's true, Bear would still fucking punk the shit out of Survivor Man.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Even if that's true, Bear would still fucking punk the shit out of Survivor Man.What does Bear being able to "punk the shit" out of Survivorman have anything to do with how credible eithers show is?

[E20]

And how are we to know that Stroud doesn't have a cell phone and the crew is waiting for his call once the camera goes out. It says that he is givin minimal supplies: He is typically given minimal supplies (such as one energy bar, a pack of gum, a credit card, etc.) to emulate a real-life survival scenario. Your main point is on assumptions, so if that's the game, I'll base my points off assumptions as well.

[E20]

What does Bear being able to "punk the shit" out of Survivorman have anything to do with how credible eithers show is?
Bear is a TRAINED BRITISH SPEACIAL OPS FORCE IN: Grylls passed UK Special Forces Selection, serving as a sabre soldier, trained in unarmed combat, desert and winter warfare, combat survival, medics, parachuting, signals, evasive driving, climbing and explosives.

He served for 3 years in 21 SAS, one of two Territorial Army regiments in the Special Air Service referred to as the "SAS(R)". 21 SAS specializes in Close Target Reconnaissance and attack(CTR). During his time with 21 SAS Grylls served actively in North Africa twice. His military career ended abruptly, however, in 1996, when a routine parachute exercise in southern Africa went wrong[citation needed]. His canopy ripped severely and caused him to spiral towards earth from 16,000ft at twice the normal speed, leaving him with three broken vertebrae and left him struggling to feel his legs.[1] Grylls spent the next 12 months in rehabilitation and, with his military career over, directed his efforts into trying to get well enough to fulfill his childhood dream of climbing Everest.

Grylls no longer serves in the British Special Forces but he was awarded the honorary rank of Lieutenant Commander in the UK's Royal Naval Reserve.[2]

He's climbed Mt. EVerest. Holy shit this guy is more credible in surviving than some average joe(Stroud).

[TheSanityAnnex]

You are completely missing my point............

Bear films his show with a crew, Stroud does not.

[E20]

You are completely missing my point............

Bear films his show with a crew, Stroud does not.
Yeah and we have to take his word for it that he doesn't recieve any help from them.

Just like we have to take Strouds word taht he doesn't have a cell phone and once the Camera is turned off and a helicopter doesn't come with beer, cigs, porn and cheetoes.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Have you ever even seen Survivor Man?


I've seen both shows, and I enjoy them both. I don't see why it is so troubling for you when I say that Bear films with a crew, and Stroud does not. Those are just facts about the show.

[E20]

Have you ever even seen Survivor Man?


I've seen both shows, and I enjoy them both. I don't see why it is so troubling for you when I say that Bear films with a crew, and Stroud does not. Those are just facts about the show.
I'm not troubled, it's just that you're sounding like that Les Stroud is superior than Bear Grylls over the sole fact that he doesn't carry a film crew with him.

[monosylab1k]

Neither one of those guys is surviving fucking anything. With the amount of money they're bringing in, it's in their TV network's best interests to keep those guys as close to perfectly safe as they can keep them. It's all a huge illusion. If T Park brought in big ratings, they could make him look like the greatest survival expert on earth. Both shows are, to some extent, fake with the illusion of danger. But I'll take Man Vs. Wild cuz at least Bear drinks water out of elephant shit.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'm not troubled, it's just that you're sounding like that Les Stroud is superior than Bear Grylls over the sole fact that he doesn't carry a film crew with him.In terms of how the show is filmed, yes, Stroud's show is superior.

[E20]

In terms of how the show is filmed, yes, Stroud's show is superior.
Because there is that chance that once the camera goes off, Bear recieves 1st class service from the crew, that's an assumption you might have, right?

But, what's stopping me or anybody else from assuming that Les could have a phone and can call his crew that is stationed 10 miles away from him for supplies.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Not to mention that Les has to lug around 50 pounds of camera equipment.


In the end...........


Stallone>>>>Stroud>>>>Grylls

[E20]

Not to mention that Les has to lug around 50 pounds of camera equipment.


In the end...........


Stallone>>>>Stroud>>>>Grylls
50lbs? That makes it sound iffy, why would he need that much equipment? All he would need is a camcorder and a tripod.

[TheSanityAnnex]

All he would need is a camcorder and a tripod.He's not making a home video. He's filming for a show that will be shown on television. Tripods, lenses, multiple cameras, lens, audio equipment etc.

[DarkReign]

http://www.carnegiehillbooks.com/album/apoc.gif

I dont like you NorCal, but your sig rocks.

:lmao

[LuvBones]

Looks like TSA has a valid point..

http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/23/anglophenia.jsp?bc_id=434

[Vizzini]

It looks like Bear isn't as hardcore as some thought he wasn't.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6911748.stm


Born Survivor featured British adventurer Bear Grylls dealing with "perilous situations" in the wild.

But a crew member told the Sunday Times some nights were spent in hotels.

Channel 4 insisted Grylls was never billed as working entirely unaided, but promised to raise the matter with the production company that made the show.

American survival consultant Mark Weinert, who was recruited by Diverse Productions, told the paper Grylls claimed to be stranded on a desert island on one occasion.

He often directly addresses the production team, including the cameraman, making it clear he is receiving an element of back-up

Channel 4 statement
However, he was actually in Hawaii and spent some of his time there in a motel, Mr Weinert alleged.

Another time, he added, Grylls was filmed building a raft by himself, whereas the crew had actually put it together and dismantled it beforehand, to ensure that it worked.

And in a further episode, supposedly "wild" horses rounded up by Grylls had come from a local trekking facility, he claimed.

Further investigation

Channel 4 said in a statement that Born Survivor was "not an observational documentary series, but a 'how-to' guide to basic survival techniques in extreme environments".

"The programme explicitly does not claim that presenter Bear Grylls' experience is one of unaided solo survival.

"For example, he often directly addresses the production team, including the cameraman, making it clear he is receiving an element of back-up."

The broadcaster said Grylls carried out his own stunts and did place himself in perilous situations, "though he does so within clearly-observed health and safety guidelines required on productions of this kind".

"However, we take any allegations of misleading our audiences seriously and will be looking into this further with Diverse over the next few days."

The series was originally made for the Discovery Channel in the US and was acquired for UK transmission by Channel 4.

Diverse Productions declined to elaborate on Channel 4's statement, while Grylls's agent was unavailable for comment

I still do enjoy the show, seeing him carve up a dead dear carcas (planted ther perhaps) drink water from elephant dung and hop into the bog to show you how to get out is still entertaining.

[timvp]

Yeah, I was disappointed in this show. I saw it talked about so much on here that I DVR'ed an episode. Good premise but was too unrealistic for my taste.

Like in this outback one, they get to a cliff with the only way to get down being a tree in which he climbs down about 75 feet to the ground. Are you telling me that after he climbs down, the camera crew all climbs down? Or do they take a couple hours to setup rappelling equipment while the guy just sits in the shade and waits? I don't understand how people just don't see right through it.

And it's also pretty lame that while he's climbing something he talks about how dangerous it is and gives a couple stories of other people doing the same thing and dying. Wouldn't he want to be concentrating on his extremely dangerous maneuver instead up giving us some elementary school level history tale about Aborigines?

Plus bro is like 4-foot-11, 85 pounds. It's much easier to survive in the elements and climb things when you are so tiny. A regular sized male would need two or three times more water.

Good premise. Poorly executed.

[Vizzini]

Looks like TSA has a valid point..

http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/23/anglophenia.jsp?bc_id=434


damn it! you beat me by three minutes. Oh well.

[timvp]

And anyone who actually thinks he drank his own piss needs to keep writing letters to Santa Claus.

[E20]

Bear himself didn't approve of those methods. It stated he was disappointed, that it was forced and it was from Discovery channel producers. Still if your not going to take a trained speacial OPS forces and the youngest man to climb Everest over a film producer in the wild than be my guest. Shows how dumb you really are.

[E20]

Plus bro is like 4-foot-11, 85 pounds. It's much easier to survive in the elements and climb things when you are so tiny. A regular sized male would need two or three times more water.

How do you now his height and weight? Link..............

[TheSanityAnnex]

Shows how dumb you really are.Weren't you then one saying there weren't any resorts near where he was trying to survive? And you're calling someone else dumb?

I just had a hunch he got some food at night when the cameras were off, I wasn't aware he got a five star hotel accomodations in Hawaii! :lol

[timvp]

How do you now his height and weight? By looking at him.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

LMAO Kori it's not fake the dude drank his own piss.

[Flight3107]

Yeah, I was disappointed in this show. I saw it talked about so much on here that I DVR'ed an episode. Good premise but was too unrealistic for my taste.

Like in this outback one, they get to a cliff with the only way to get down being a tree in which he climbs down about 75 feet to the ground. Are you telling me that after he climbs down, the camera crew all climbs down? Or do they take a couple hours to setup rappelling equipment while the guy just sits in the shade and waits? I don't understand how people just don't see right through it.

And it's also pretty lame that while he's climbing something he talks about how dangerous it is and gives a couple stories of other people doing the same thing and dying. Wouldn't he want to be concentrating on his extremely dangerous maneuver instead up giving us some elementary school level history tale about Aborigines?

Plus bro is like 4-foot-11, 85 pounds. It's much easier to survive in the elements and climb things when you are so tiny. A regular sized male would need two or three times more water.

Good premise. Poorly executed.


Who gives a fuck how the camera crew gets down, I not watching the show to see how they survive.


4-foot-11, 85 pounds?

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5377/beargp1.png

Conan is 6'4

[E20]

Weren't you then one saying there weren't any resorts near where he was trying to survive? And you're calling someone else dumb?

I just had a hunch he got some food at night when the cameras were off, I wasn't aware he got a five star hotel accomodations in Hawaii! :lol
There are resorts in a costa rican rain forest, rocky mountains, African savannah? I was quoting Kori who said that: It felt like off camera there were resorts for him to stay at. But there isn't, who would build a resort there, I'd guess it would be illegal and dumb, because if that were the case the only persons to come to your resort would be Bear Grylls and Les Stroud.

And I have a hunch that Les stroud calls in for Pizza when he turns off his 15000lb unneeded camera equipment.

[E20]

By looking at him.
Sorry Timvp, but not even your eyes are that keen/sharp.

[timvp]

Camera effect :rolleyes






:smokin

[timvp]

Okay guy might be a seven-footer but someone explain to me what the camera guys do when they reach the end of a cliff when the only way down is supposedly a tree.

Seriously.

[E20]

Camera effect :rolleyes






:smokin
If you've seen Bear Grylls in the Savannah episode........not to sound homo or anything, he's shirtless and he packs more muslce than me X10. Also, I think he wouldn't be able to do this: Grylls passed UK Special Forces Selection, serving as a sabre soldier, trained in unarmed combat, desert and winter warfare, combat survival, medics, parachuting, signals, evasive driving, climbing and explosives.

He served for 3 years in 21 SAS, one of two Territorial Army regiments in the Special Air Service referred to as the "SAS(R)". 21 SAS specializes in Close Target Reconnaissance and attack(CTR). During his time with 21 SAS Grylls served actively in North Africa twice. His military career ended abruptly, however, in 1996, when a routine parachute exercise in southern Africa went wrong[citation needed]. His canopy ripped severely and caused him to spiral towards earth from 16,000ft at twice the normal speed, leaving him with three broken vertebrae and left him struggling to feel his legs.[1] Grylls spent the next 12 months in rehabilitation and, with his military career over, directed his efforts into trying to get well enough to fulfill his childhood dream of climbing Everest.

Grylls no longer serves in the British Special Forces but he was awarded the honorary rank of Lieutenant Commander in the UK's Royal Naval Reserve.[2]

AND climb Mt. Everst at 4-11 85lbs. Try again.....:lol

[Flight3107]

Okay guy might be a seven-footer but someone explain to me what the camera guys do when they reach the end of a cliff when the only way down is supposedly a tree.

Seriously.


They probably repel down the cliff, no one said they had to do the shit Bear does.

[E20]

Okay guy might be a seven-footer but someone explain to me what the camera guys do when they reach the end of a cliff when the only way down is supposedly a tree.

Seriously.
I don't know if you know the premise, but it isn't how the camera guys get around doing things it's Bear, the camera dudes have all sorts of equipment to aid them. Bear doesn't in most cases.

[TheSanityAnnex]

If you've seen Bear Grylls in the Savannah episode........not to sound homo or anything, he's shirtless and he packs more muslce than me X10. Well, that does sound very homo. And your obsession with Rocky, and now Grylls, and your comments about their bodies has me thinking you are either gay/a meathead/or both.


How many more times must you post the same wikipedia excerpts?

Grylls passed UK Special Forces Selection, serving as a sabre soldier, trained in unarmed combat, desert and winter warfare, combat survival, medics, parachuting, signals, evasive driving, climbing and explosives.

He served for 3 years in 21 SAS, one of two Territorial Army regiments in the Special Air Service referred to as the "SAS(R)". 21 SAS specializes in Close Target Reconnaissance and attack(CTR). During his time with 21 SAS Grylls served actively in North Africa twice. His military career ended abruptly, however, in 1996, when a routine parachute exercise in southern Africa went wrong[citation needed]. His canopy ripped severely and caused him to spiral towards earth from 16,000ft at twice the normal speed, leaving him with three broken vertebrae and left him struggling to feel his legs.[1] Grylls spent the next 12 months in rehabilitation and, with his military career over, directed his efforts into trying to get well enough to fulfill his childhood dream of climbing Everest.

Grylls no longer serves in the British Special Forces but he was awarded the honorary rank of Lieutenant Commander in the UK's Royal Naval Reserve.[2]

AND climb Mt. Everst at 4-11 85lbs. Try again.....:lol

[timvp]

They probably repel down the cliff, no one said they had to do the shit Bear does.That's what I'm saying. Do you realize how long it'd take to setup the rappelling equipment? And then to rappel down the cliff with that camera equipment would take time.

So he climbs down the tree and then waits around for a couple hours until the other guys get down too?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't know if you know the premise, but it isn't how the camera guys get around doing things it's Bear, the camera dudes have all sorts of equipment to aid them. Bear doesn't in most cases.Bear just has his crew make him rafts with their equipment and he pretends to build it once the cameras get rolling. Lame.

[E20]

That's what I'm saying. Do you realize how long it'd take to setup the rappelling equipment? And then to rappel down the cliff with that camera equipment would take time.

So he climbs down the tree and then waits around for a couple hours until the other guys get down too?
I'm not sure you are aware, but his whole escapade doesn't take the 1-hour block of TV time. It takes DAYS.........And I'm sure Bear carries a personal Camera as well. Not to mention, that Bear could possibly insruct the crew where to go beforehand and leave one camera person with him to tape how he gets there and then once he accomplishes 'said' obstacle the other camera dudes are there waiting for him. But that is one possibility.....this whole thread is full of assumptions with no real facts.

[Flight3107]

That's what I'm saying. Do you realize how long it'd take to setup the rappelling equipment? And then to rappel down the cliff with that camera equipment would take time.

So he climbs down the tree and then waits around for a couple hours until the other guys get down too?


Couple hours



Exaggerate much?

[E20]

Bear just has his crew make him rafts with their equipment and he pretends to build it once the cameras get rolling. Lame.
Assumptions are lame. Stroud is on a skateboard in the great basin and has gasoline for a scooter which his crew provides him, we just see him walking about 2 feet on the camera though.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I assume you have a man crush on Bear.

[E20]

Also, the episode where he is stranded on the pacific ocean???

That raft is only big enough for 2 people at MAX and Bear has his own personal camera. Explain that......

[NorCal510]

Yeah, I was disappointed in this show. I saw it talked about so much on here that I DVR'ed an episode. Good premise but was too unrealistic for my taste.

Like in this outback one, they get to a cliff with the only way to get down being a tree in which he climbs down about 75 feet to the ground. Are you telling me that after he climbs down, the camera crew all climbs down? Or do they take a couple hours to setup rappelling equipment while the guy just sits in the shade and waits? I don't understand how people just don't see right through it.

And it's also pretty lame that while he's climbing something he talks about how dangerous it is and gives a couple stories of other people doing the same thing and dying. Wouldn't he want to be concentrating on his extremely dangerous maneuver instead up giving us some elementary school level history tale about Aborigines?

Plus bro is like 4-foot-11, 85 pounds. It's much easier to survive in the elements and climb things when you are so tiny. A regular sized male would need two or three times more water.

Good premise. Poorly executed.
that is poor taste coming from you. bear is pretty built, about 5'7. I'd guess he weighs about 180... almost average. His "lame" stories are actually interesting to me... and he's bear grylls... like he needs concentration?

[E20]

I assume you have a man crush on Les.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Assumptions are lame. Stroud is on a skateboard in the great basin and has gasoline for a scooter which his crew provides him, we just see him walking about 2 feet on the camera though.True, your assumption here and attempt at humor was lame. My comment about his crew building the raft for him wasn't an assumption, it was stated in the article posted by Luvbones.

Why do you insist on defending this guy so much? His show is staged, who gives a fuck? Just enjoy it for what it is, a staged survival show.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Also, the episode where he is stranded on the pacific ocean???

That raft is only big enough for 2 people at MAX and Bear has his own personal camera. Explain that......Explain what? The Carnival cruise ship that Bear was staying on was obviously kept out of the camera shots.

[E20]

True, your assumption here and attempt at humor was lame. My comment about his crew building the raft for him wasn't an assumption, it was stated in the article posted by Luvbones.

Why do you insist on defending this guy so much? His show is staged, who gives a fuck? Just enjoy it for what it is, a staged survival show.
I guess you didn't know that was disapproved by Bear and forced by Discovery producers.....What would bear want:

A) Just quitting after he did everything to get to the raft, because what Discovery producers forced and waste time and money. OR

B) Continue with the show.



The reason I'm defending him is because people actually think Les Stroud would have better chances of suriving than Bear Grylls in a REAL situation and that is pure BS.

[NorCal510]

That's what I'm saying. Do you realize how long it'd take to setup the rappelling equipment? And then to rappel down the cliff with that camera equipment would take time.

So he climbs down the tree and then waits around for a couple hours until the other guys get down too?
actually i read the bear's crew are expert survivors also... probably not as legit as bear...so they are good with surviving also. how else would they be filming in deserts/blizzards and such?

[E20]

Explain what? The Carnival cruise ship that Bear was staying on was obviously kept out of the camera shots.
I just saw that episode two days ago and still fresh in my mind. The camera was doing 360 spins on the sea. And Bear said: The sea looks endless while he was doing 360 degree camera shots no yacht in site........

We can agree to disagree.

Me: Bear > Les
You: Les > Bear
Both: Stallone > Both

Timvp: Timvp > Nature

[NorCal510]

me > you

[TheSanityAnnex]

I guess you didn't know that was disapproved by Bear and forced by Discovery producers.....As you asked someone earlier, link please.

[E20]

And let's give a round of appluase to the fuckign animals who surive in this shit every day. :lol

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Last night I watched the Costa Rica episode of Man vs. Wild. I think what he does is real.

But did anyone notice how the camera crew was able to follow him up to the top of 80 foot tree?

I doubt they got up there the way he did...and would be pretty funny if he had to wait until they (crew) got everything ready to reach him.

[E20]

As you asked someone earlier, link please.
It's on Wikipedia's page Man vs Wild

[TheSanityAnnex]

I just want to keep this going to see E20 rushing to Bear's defense.

[TheSanityAnnex]

It's on Wikipedia's page Man vs WildDid you write that portion for him?

And since when is Wikipedia ever been a source for credible information.

[tlongII]

It don't matter. I still like Man vs Wild better than SurvivorMan. It's just a much better produced show.

[NorCal510]

wikipedia is like the dictionary

very LEGIT, aka bear grylls

[Avitus1]

Les Stroud would survive as he has done but Bear Grylls would also survive because of all the training he has. He was special forces after all. I think if they had a "Survive off" Bear Grylls would come out in much better shape them Les.

[Mixability]

Wikipedia is the best thing ever—Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject, so you know you are getting the best possible information.

[TheSanityAnnex]

E20,

you forgot to mention this part I just found on his wikipedia page...........


"The preview for the show stated he had served in the Foreign Legion, but his official biography states he was just demonstrating what going through their training was like. So, outside of heading Brit. Army anti-drug commercials and holding the honorary rank, he has no military experience. And I really don't count those last two as true military experience, and in the case of going through the Foreign Legion BCT, that was just for a TV show. So, did this guy just come onto the stage via climbing Everest at such a young age? Not knocking British television industry, but it must be easier to break into entertainment via reality tv than in the States"

[E20]

To be honest I dont' really have much defense to go so far eveything has been assumptions and farfetched:

-Resorts in the jungle ala Lord of the Flies
-Bear can't do all that in 1-hour
-Bear his 3 feet tall and 10 pounds
-He can't really do all that stuff and his military career was a facade.
-Survivor man is better because he is from the Americas and Bear is a Brit

I'm enjoying this thread, because people come up with funnier assumptions by the post.

[Kori Ellis]

There are resorts in a costa rican rain forest,

Umm.. yes. I went horseback riding in the Costa Rican rainforest, white water river rafting, etc and then went back to my condo 20 minutes away (still in the jungle) where I had a complete kitchen, shower with hot running water, feather bed, etc.

[NorCal510]

Don't worry E20, TSA will try until you stop. He has nothing else to do ALL day... besides PM me spam and defend his retarded logic.

Then he responds to "I just got back from the movies and ate breakfast with my co-workers... then I'm going to the ball game tonight".

pshhhh

[E20]

E20,

you forgot to mention this part I just found on his wikipedia page...........


"The preview for the show stated he had served in the Foreign Legion, but his official biography states he was just demonstrating what going through their training was like. So, outside of heading Brit. Army anti-drug commercials and holding the honorary rank, he has no military experience. And I really don't count those last two as true military experience, and in the case of going through the Foreign Legion BCT, that was just for a TV show. So, did this guy just come onto the stage via climbing Everest at such a young age? Not knocking British television industry, but it must be easier to break into entertainment via reality tv than in the States"
So you discredit his army training, because never served in the war?

I guess you don't want to accept this:
Grylls first entered the record books in 1997 by being the youngest Briton to summit Ama Dablam in the Himalayas, a peak famously described by Sir Edmund Hillary as "unclimbable".

Then in 1998, Grylls broke another record of becoming the youngest Briton, at 23, to summit Mount Everest. Both these achievements are made even more remarkable by the fact that a mere two years earlier he almost severed his spinal cord in a near fatal parachuting accident in Africa.[5]

Just admit it Bear>> Les :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

To be honest I dont' really have much defense to go so far eveything has been assumptions and farfetched:

-Resorts in the jungle ala Lord of the Flies
-Bear can't do all that in 1-hour
-Bear his 3 feet tall and 10 pounds
-He can't really do all that stuff and his military career was a facade.
-Survivor man is better because he is from the Americas and Bear is a Brit

I'm enjoying this thread, because people come up with funnier assumptions by the post.What is funny, is that you claim to know all of these "facts" about Bear, yet all of your information came from a wikipedia page. I bring up another "fact" I found on the same wikepedia page, and now my "fact" is a funny assumption?

[E20]

Umm.. yes. I went horseback riding in the Costa Rican rainforest, white water river rafting, etc and then went back to my condo 20 minutes away (still in the jungle) where I had a complete kitchen, shower with hot running water, feather bed, etc.
What was the name of the resort so I can debunk that shit.

[timvp]

There should be a second show called Cameraman vs. Wild where they show how the cameramen survive the wild.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you discredit his army training, because never served in the war?

I guess you don't want to accept this:
Grylls first entered the record books in 1997 by being the youngest Briton to summit Ama Dablam in the Himalayas, a peak famously described by Sir Edmund Hillary as "unclimbable".

Then in 1998, Grylls broke another record of becoming the youngest Briton, at 23, to summit Mount Everest. Both these achievements are made even more remarkable by the fact that a mere two years earlier he almost severed his spinal cord in a near fatal parachuting accident in Africa.[5]

Just admit it Bear>> Les :lol
I'm just posting things I found on his wikipedia page, same as you are doing.

[Kori Ellis]

What was the name of the resort so I can debunk that shit.

I guess you've never been to Costa Rica.

Hold on I'll get you the link to the place I stayed.

[NorCal510]

Don't worry E20, TSA will try until you stop. He has nothing else to do ALL day... besides PM me spam and defend his retarded logic.

Then he responds to "I just got back from the movies and ate breakfast with my co-workers... then I'm going to the ball game tonight".

pshhhh
TSA can't respond...

[TheSanityAnnex]

Then he responds to "I just got back from the movies and ate breakfast with my co-workers... then I'm going to the ball game tonight".

OMG!!!

Are you sure you didn't mean to type............."then he responds with"



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I OWNED YOU!!!
LOL OMG!!! LMAO LMAO!!! I OWNED YOU!!!
THIS ONE IS SIG WORTHY, I WILL USE THIS
OMG!!! LMAO LOL!!!

[Kori Ellis]

Here's a bunch of RESORT hotels in the area where I stayed - http://www.manuelantonio.com/hotels/

Here's the touring company that booked my horseback riding through the rainforest, river rafting on the Naranjo and deep sea fishing trip while I was there -
http://www.puertoquepos.com/

Anything else E20?

[E20]

What is funny, is that you claim to know all of these "facts" about Bear, yet all of your information came from a wikipedia page. I bring up another "fact" I found on the same wikepedia page, and now my "fact" is a funny assumption?
I searched the Wikipedia main article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_vs._Wild and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls

But nowhere did I find your excerpt.

Oh and about the raft it says: ACCORDING to Mark Wienart the raft was built by him (Mark Wienart) and he was hired for it.

But ACCORDING to me, I built it. Once again this thread is based on assumptions.
That's dumb logic:
The guy has no military experience, because he never fought in a war, so his training doesn't really matter.

[E20]

Here's a bunch of RESORT hotels in the area where I stayed - http://www.manuelantonio.com/hotels/

Here's the touring company that booked my horseback riding through the rainforest, river rafting on the Naranjo and deep sea fishing trip while I was there -
http://www.puertoquepos.com/

Anything else E20?
Before I debunk it? Did you ride in a plane and parachute in the middle of the jungle to get to the resort, like Bear, or did you land in an airport and drive to it?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I searched the Wikipedia main article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_vs._Wild and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls

But nowhere did I find your excerpt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bear_Grylls

[Kori Ellis]

Before I debunk it? Did you ride in a plane and parachute in the middle of the jungle to get to the resort, like Bear, or did you land in an airport and drive to it?

I didn't say I went on survivor trip. I said that I stayed at a condo in the jungle, drove in a jeep 20 minutes away to a stable where I got on a horse and went on and all day horseback riding trip into the rainforest.

You, on the other hand, said there's no resorts in the Costa Rican rainforest.

[NorCal510]

OMG!!!

Are you sure you didn't mean to type............."then he responds with"



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I OWNED YOU!!!
LOL OMG!!! LMAO LMAO!!! I OWNED YOU!!!
THIS ONE IS SIG WORTHY, I WILL USE THIS
OMG!!! LMAO LOL!!!

that was pure idiotic

get a life douche

[TheSanityAnnex]

that was pure idiotic

get a life doucheI'm glad you thought so, now can you see how stupid you look when you do the same thing?

And by the way, it would actually be "that was purely idiotic". :lol Fucking retard.

[E20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bear_Grylls
Nice, people arguing about the samething we are.

Wait remind me why those 'discussions' aren't in the main article and in the discussion section?

Because the main article is what counts and only real facts are in it.......that's why the main article is LOCKED and can't be edited, only by Admins of Wikipedia who've verified what can be placed.

This is boring I'm wasting my day off talking about some guy I don't even know.

And Kori what was the resort you stayed in yourself.

[Kori Ellis]

Anyway, you guys can keep watching it and believing the guy sleeps on the ground when the camera turns off and is really doing a lot of dangerous activities. And I'll not watch it and believe that a big part of it is staged.

[Vizzini]

I am getting a total kick out of reading this thread. E20 thinks Bear is God, and the rest just want to show that while Bear does have some survival skills, the situations aren't nearly as difficult or life threatening as they seem to be.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Nice, people arguing about the samething we are.

Wait remind me why those 'discussions' aren't in the main article and in the discussion section?

Because the main article is what counts and only real facts are in it.......that's why the main article is LOCKED and can't be edited, only by Admins of Wikipedia who've verified what can be placed.

This is boring I'm wasting my day off talking about some guy I don't even know.

And Kori what was the resort you stayed in yourself.It is not locked, and is only semi-protected, meaning.............in order to edit it, all you have to do is have a certain number of posts on wikipedia. But I also asked you the same question, why are you defending some guy you don't know?

[TheSanityAnnex]

E20 thinks Bear is GodIf he truly believes that........where does that leave Stallone?

[E20]

I didn't say I went on survivor trip. I said that I stayed at a condo in the jungle, drove in a jeep 20 minutes away to a stable where I got on a horse and went on and all day horseback riding trip into the rainforest.

You, on the other hand, said there's no resorts in the Costa Rican rainforest.
I didn't say, I thought they're weren't, but I guess I was wrong. I thought rain forests were perserved because there is less and less of rainforests....so I thought it would illegal to build a resort inside a rainforest.

But, still you're assuming Bear pinpointed a resort and landed a mile away from it.

[E20]

Anyway, you guys can keep watching it and believing the guy sleeps on the ground when the camera turns off and is really doing a lot of dangerous activities. And I'll not watch it and believe that a big part of it is staged.
That's all I ask from TSA, but he keeps on talking to me.

[E20]

It is not locked, and is only semi-protected, meaning.............in order to edit it, all you have to do is have a certain number of posts on wikipedia. But I also asked you the same question, why are you defending some guy you don't know?
A) It says "Protection is not an endorsement of the current version (protection log). Please discuss changes on the talk page or request unprotection. You may use {{editprotected}} on the talk page to ask for an administrator to make an edit for you."

B) It bugs me personally when people with experience and credentials and have done excellent feats, in Bear's case Climb Everest and the Himalays and drink Elephant Poo and people overlook that and say anybody can do what he does, because he has a camera crew and he is fake.

[TheSanityAnnex]

That's all I ask from TSA, but he keeps on talking to me.:lmao

turn off your computer and walk away.

[TheSanityAnnex]

B) It bugs me personally when people with experience and credentials and have done excellent feats, in Bear's case Climb Everest and the Himalays and drink Elephant Poo and people overlook that and say anybody can do what he does, because he has a camera crew and he is fake.All I've said throughout this entire thread is that he has a camera crew with him. Never said he didn't climb Everest, never tried to make it sound like he didn't climb Everest.

[E20]

I am getting a total kick out of reading this thread. E20 thinks Bear is God, and the rest just want to show that while Bear does have some survival skills, the situations aren't nearly as difficult or life threatening as they seem to be.
Buddy, I think everybody on this board, except the poster Gopher, would die in the african savanah or the Moab desert if they were stranded. The heat was even displayd on camera -- he cooked an Egg on the ground that's how hot it was. And I guess everybody would know to drink water out of a rock cave and which plants to eat and how to avoid all those animals.

[Kori Ellis]

And Kori what was the resort you stayed in yourself.

I stayed in a managed set of individual condos that is located next to this resort ... http://www.sicomono.com/ I tried to find a link to the condos, but I can't find it (it was six years ago). But it was very nice. It was a private condo nestled in the jungle with a huge deck over looking the ocean view. Monkeys and other animals were everywhere.

I'm not saying that Costa Rica isn't wild. I went horseback riding four hours deep into the rainforest and it was very wild.

I'm just saying that it's not impossible that he just got up off the ground when the camera turned off, got in a jeep and went 20 minutes back to a luxury hotel.

[E20]

All I've said throughout this entire thread is that he has a camera crew with him. Never said he didn't climb Everest, never tried to make it sound like he didn't climb Everest.
You have said that he is fake and his military experience isn't valid, he doesn't really do those things/he can't do those things. That's basically giving the middle finger to his credentials.

[E20]

I stayed in a managed set of individual condos that is located next to this resort ... http://www.sicomono.com/ I tried to find a link to the condos, but I can't find it (it was six years ago). But it was very nice. It was a private condo nestled in the jungle with a huge deck over looking the ocean view. Monkeys and other animals were everywhere.

I'm not saying that Costa Rica isn't wild. I went horseback riding four hours deep into the rainforest and it was very wild.

I'm just saying that it's not impossible that he just got up off the ground when the camera turned off, got in a jeep and went 20 minutes back to a luxury hotel.
That's where we differ, he says he has a two man camera crew with him and that's it. I choose to believe that, he sounds like a guy you can believe.

Different strokes for different folks - Ben Wallace

[E20]

I quit, you guys win.

Bear Grylls is a 4 foot fake who can't even breath w/o an oxygen tank.

There is no Stallone, but Stallone and Pauly is his messanger.

Fuck Les Stroud, I wanna nail his ass to the cross.

I'm gonna go make love to my hand now.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You have said that he is fake and his military experience isn't valid, he doesn't really do those things/he can't do those things. That's basically giving the middle finger to his credentials.Nah, I just posted what I found on wikipedia. You are getting too worked up over this. I'd recommend a cold shower and a viewing of Rocky IV

[E20]

Nah, I just posted what I found on wikipedia. You are getting too worked up over this. I'd recommend a cold shower and a viewing of Rocky IV
You posted a discussion..........that's really something... :rolleyes

[NorCal510]

I'm glad you thought so, now can you see how stupid you look when you do the same thing?

And by the way, it would actually be "that was purely idiotic". :lol Fucking retard.
there's a difference between trying to own someone with a dictionary pic.

douche.

[Flight3107]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6vlEavUH9ng

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gRTIkj5HF90&mode=related&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dioAXVkdgO4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6boGhYWOX9k

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l1KD61h3--I

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XXuFR7Cz4rk&mode=related&search=

[TheSanityAnnex]

there's a difference between trying to own someone with a dictionary pic.

douche.Shouldn't you be crying to Kori about the PM's I send you?

[jaespur21]

Sorry im late on this thread...I and my brother and a few friends LOVE yes mancrush whatever u wanna call it. the man vs wild show... We started a drinkin game bcuz of his accent and have a blast watching his show. We and especially i could give a flip on realism. its a fun show to watch. Bear is the Man.


Oh yeah and i believe that he trained with the brittish special forces. have yall noticed that he doesnt say slippery he says "slippy" man i laugh when i hear that. but this last episode HE FINALLY said slippery so i busted out the bottle of tequila

[TheSanityAnnex]

How's the drinking game work?

[monosylab1k]

How's the drinking game work?
you do a shot every time the cameraman catches a glimpse of the five star resort in the background.

[jaespur21]

you do a shot every time the cameraman catches a glimpse of the five star resort in the background.

haternation plz stand up

[jaespur21]

i explained the drinking game in a thread a couple weeks ago. but let me grab my food and then ill spit it again

[monosylab1k]

haternation plz stand up
sorry, I forgot to push my sarcasm key.

[thispego]

the episodes are good but lack rewatchability

[Avitus1]

Here's a bunch of RESORT hotels in the area where I stayed - http://www.manuelantonio.com/hotels/

Here's the touring company that booked my horseback riding through the rainforest, river rafting on the Naranjo and deep sea fishing trip while I was there -
http://www.puertoquepos.com/

Anything else E20?

Thanks for the link now I can plan my own Costa Rica trip

[timvp]

I'll probably watch another episode. But this time, I'll do a few shots beforehand. Too much thinking takes away from the show.

[jaespur21]

Every1 was hear and having a good time. and one dumb remark lead to another remark and b4 we knew it we had the man vs wild drinking game. it was made in good fun an even the girls have gotten into the game.

i might forget a few things cuz my brother aint here to refresh my memory
weather u drink beer or liquor its the same

1. his accent and the way Bear talks is pretty freakin cool so. if he says the word crevices(he sounds like crevaces) drink. IF he says slippy, or glacier(he sounds like glassier) drink
2. whenever he eats something insane. drink. like the turtle he ate. i cracked up laughin when he squizzed the orange juice on the turtle.
3. whenever he does somethin MANLY drink. each episode u decide this.
4. whenever he tells a story. drink ex: 2 years ago schoolgirls were hiking on these trail and got lost from the group and they survived the night.blah blah blah. if you watch the show youll notice his stories.

we have fun watchin this show and laugh show much. ah goodtimes

[jaespur21]

the episodes are good but lack rewatchability

i agree. and i love the show. did yall see the texas snakefarm of dirty jobs. that was a cool show. it was filmed right outside san antonio.
and timvp now u got. dont think just enjoy in the manliness

[E20]

I'll probably watch another episode. But this time, I'll do a few shots beforehand. Too much thinking takes away from the show.
Watch the Savanha or the Moab Desert episode. Those are the funniest/best. Whether you think it's cool or ridiculous you will laugh. And Timvp tell Kori to check her PM's.

[Bigzax]

c'mon K, if we can believe the refs call games on the up and up, we can surely believe this guy is roughing it...

[TxJudsonRocketTx]

Every1 was hear and having a good time. and one dumb remark lead to another remark and b4 we knew it we had the man vs wild drinking game. it was made in good fun an even the girls have gotten into the game.

i might forget a few things cuz my brother aint here to refresh my memory
weather u drink beer or liquor its the same

1. his accent and the way Bear talks is pretty freakin cool so. if he says the word crevices(he sounds like crevaces) drink. IF he says slippy, or glacier(he sounds like glassier) drink
2. whenever he eats something insane. drink. like the turtle he ate. i cracked up laughin when he squizzed the orange juice on the turtle.
3. whenever he does somethin MANLY drink. each episode u decide this.
4. whenever he tells a story. drink ex: 2 years ago schoolgirls were hiking on these trail and got lost from the group and they survived the night.blah blah blah. if you watch the show youll notice his stories.

we have fun watchin this show and laugh show much. ah goodtimes

You should add that anytime he says anything referring to the British Special Forces

[Avitus1]

Every1 was hear and having a good time. and one dumb remark lead to another remark and b4 we knew it we had the man vs wild drinking game. it was made in good fun an even the girls have gotten into the game.

i might forget a few things cuz my brother aint here to refresh my memory
weather u drink beer or liquor its the same

1. his accent and the way Bear talks is pretty freakin cool so. if he says the word crevices(he sounds like crevaces) drink. IF he says slippy, or glacier(he sounds like glassier) drink
2. whenever he eats something insane. drink. like the turtle he ate. i cracked up laughin when he squizzed the orange juice on the turtle.
3. whenever he does somethin MANLY drink. each episode u decide this.
4. whenever he tells a story. drink ex: 2 years ago schoolgirls were hiking on these trail and got lost from the group and they survived the night.blah blah blah. if you watch the show youll notice his stories.

we have fun watchin this show and laugh show much. ah goodtimes

Sounds like a fun game I'll have to try this.

[pawe]

I saw the episode where a tiger shark was circling around Bear's raft. Fake or not, that was still damn scary right there!

[jcrod]

Wow I can't believe this thread.

No shit the show is staged. Name me one, that is not? But the dude does some crazy shit, he proves what he says.

So what if he sleeps in a tent or hotel at night, would you not?

Fucker still eats some crazy shit, does some crazy athletic shit and obviously can survive on his own.

Its a show, take it for what its worth. Stupid to try to read too much into it.

[sabar]

Why would a guy that eats grubs and a Crucifix spider need to sleep in a resort?

Yes, parts are staged, it's been admitted by some of the crew. Survivorman is more authentic, but I still like the show, it's entertaining and he still shows legitimate skills such as skinning and building shelters.

Some people take things way too seriously.

[Bigzax]

I saw the episode where a tiger shark was circling around Bear's raft. Fake or not, that was still damn scary right there!




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[pawe]

^^^^ yep, im sure it is