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PixelPusher
07-29-2007, 03:03 PM
...it now literally means debt, as in money you owe the government for your prior military service.


Army's "Debt of service" leaves vets perplexed (http://wcbstv.com/local/local_story_204222600.html)
Kirstin Cole
Reporting

(CBS) NEW YORK Servicemen and women who made huge sacrifices fighting in the war and now paying yet another price, even after coming home.

One soldier in particular is currently battling against a new "debt of service."

Brian Rodriguez is a fighter, an honorably discharged soldier who'd been deployed in Iraq.

"I was a combat engineer," Rodriguez said. "We deal with land mines, explosives."

He fought for his nation, only to return to his homeland and wage a fresh battle.

Former Army Specialist Rodriguez started getting bills for $700 for lost or damaged government property this summer. Although he was discharged some four years ago, bills recently arrived demanding payment, but giving no details on what or why -- nor do they offer a way to dispute the charges. (Gitmo style...)

"For doing my job you're going to bill me?" Rodriguez said.

And he's not alone. A 2006 government report found more than 1,000 soldiers being billed a total of $1.5 million. And while fighting overseas put their lives on the line, this battle on paper could cost them their future by ruining their credit. Rodriguez will be reported to credit agencies next month.

"It makes a terrible point about the nature of military service today," citizen soldier Tod Ensign said.

Ensign is a veteran's advocate. He says this is all part of the military’s push to be run more like a business. (more of that "privatization" ideology in action)

"They'll just pound him and call him, call his employers, and make his life as miserable as they can until he pays up," Ensign said.

Testimony before Congress detailed in a report found that "although unit commanders and finance offices are authorized to write off debts for lost and damaged equipment ... they have not always done so."

"It happens too often and it's just disgraceful," Sen. Charles Schumer said. "Here are people who are risking their lives for us and they come home and they're being treated as if they're criminals instead of heroes."

Because it's been four years since he left the Middle East, Rodriguez's battalion was dissolved and his commanders are long gone. And despite repeated requests, the Army never could tell us what piece of equipment Rodriguez was billed for, nor would they get rid of the debt.

"I did my time, I served my country and this is the thanks I get," Rodriguez said.

Their suggestion? Call your Congressman. Schumer said he'll reach out to the Army to intervene on Brian's behalf.
So we're going to shakedown 1000 vets over $1.5 million dollars in "losses" accrued during the same war in which BILLIONS (with a "B") of dollars in CASH sent to Iraq has vanished? Nevermind that we're already spending $200 million a day for a war with a final bill that will break the trillion dollar mark.

Ya Vez
07-29-2007, 05:25 PM
so your saying that all US military personnel are honest...

like abu grahid didn't happen...

isn't the aspect of dishonesty greater in a war zone then at home...

PixelPusher
07-29-2007, 06:03 PM
so your saying that all US military personnel are honest...

like abu grahid didn't happen...

isn't the aspect of dishonesty greater in a war zone then at home...
You are assuming they're all guilty of something, simply because the Army prints out a piece of paper that says so...aren't you a good little sheep.

Abu Ghraib? Haditha? Those guys were formally charged and were/are undergoing court martial proceedings (rules, evidence...you know, justice).

Since the Army won't even itemize this "bill" that popped up after 4 years or offer any venue to challenge these claims, we'll never know. In other news, it's been over 3 years and still no one gives a shit about the billions in cash that disappeared in Iraq.

Wild Cobra
07-30-2007, 04:00 AM
The military is a huge bureaucracy. Anyone who has been in can attest to paperwork problems. My best guess is that equipment that was assigned to people was battle damaged, and either someone in their chain of command didn't provide or fill out the right paperwork to relieve the soldiers of the responsibility they signed for. There does need to be a fix for this, but it won't be fast or simple.