Mike Vick would have been better off raping a bitch

[Fillmoe]

Apologies issued for PG reporter's remarks

Tuesday, July 31, 2007
By Bob Smizik, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Post-Gazette, KDKA-TV and Post-Gazette reporter Paul Zeise have apologized for remarks Zeise made on "Sports Showdown" Sunday night.

"We apologize for the insensitive and offensive remarks made on Sunday's "Sports Showdown," the Post-Gazette said in a statement issued yesterday. "Paul Zeise's comments do not represent the view of the Post-Gazette."

Zeise, who covers Pitt football and college basketball for the Post-Gazette, said, "I regret the poor choice of analogies I used to characterize a professional athlete's legal situation."

KDKA also apologized on its 6 p.m. and 11 p.m. newscasts yesterday.

The "Sports Showdown," which runs for 30 minutes beginning at 11:35 p.m., is a weekly discussion show with three or four members of the local media with KDKA sports anchor Bob Pompeani as the host. Panelists Sunday were Zeise; Paul Alexander, an anchor-reporter for FSN Pittsburgh; and Ellis Cannon, a talk-show host on WPGB-FM.

The subject for discussion was Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, who has been indicted by the federal government on dogfighting charges.

In introducing the topic, Pompeani said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is "probably going to suspend [Vick] for the rest of the season, the whole year. Is he right to do that given the fact this guy has not been convicted of anything?" Alexander answered: "Absolutely. When you're indicted by the federal government, you're going down. Since 1987 they have a 92 percent conviction rate."

Zeise took an opposing view. "It's really a sad day in this country when somehow ... Michael Vick would have been better off raping a woman if you look at the outcry of what happened. Had he done that, he probably would have been suspended for four games and he'd be back on the field. But because this has become a political issue, all of a sudden the commissioner has lost his stomach for it."

KDKA general manager Chris Pike said, "We apologize for the inappropriate and insensitive comments that do not reflect the view of KDKA management and staff."

Pike said Zeise, who was among a group of eight to 10 rotating panelists, will not be invited back on the show.





guy brings up a valid point.... i couldn't agree with him more....

[BeerIsGood!]

He didn't say anything that bad, although I completely disagree with him. If Vick was facing a serious trial for rape he wouldn't be playing this season due to the negative pub and the constraints the trial would put on his time and energy. No way an NFL QB can play through a trial in which they are required in court often if not daily.

[samikeyp]

I understand what he is saying and in a way I agree..still he was stupid for going on air with it.

I don't think its fair to compare rape and dogfighting and I also don't think you should get into a "what is worse" debate because both are horribly in their own respects.

Dude fucked up and is lucky to still have a job.

[peewee's lovechild]

Roger Godell wasn't commish during the times football players had legal problems with beating the shit out of their women, so the whole thing doesn't make sense.

Trust me, if Vick would've raped a woman or been accused of doing so, Godell would have banned his ass.

[TLWisfoine]

Roger Godell wasn't commish during the times football players had legal problems with beating the shit out of their women, so the whole thing doesn't make sense. Trust me, if Vick would've raped a woman or been accused of doing so, Godell would have banned his ass.

How do you know that for sure?

[peewee's lovechild]

How do you know that for sure?

Because he leveled a one year suspension to players who've been accused of less.

[Token Black]

How do you know that for sure?

You're my favorite poster, but I have to admire you secretly

[TLWisfoine]

Because he leveled a one year suspension to players who've been accused of less.

Eh, I'd have to see him level a suspension to players that have more star power than Pacman Jones, then I'll believe a changing of the old guard has occured.

[greenroom]

I don't think it is so much about what Goodell has done. Its more of how everyone has reacted outside of football. With the way this has been blown up its like he is a blew up a building with children in it..

[TLWisfoine]

There is a story about two dogs mauling a man to death at actor Ving Rhames house today, and yet we care more about those pitts than him.

[TheAuthority]

A woman who is raped usually lives. The dogs were brutally beaten and some were killed. They won't be coming back. I understand we hold human beings to a different standard, but should we? I'm not any kind of animal rights activist or anything, but for what he did, he should be at least be beaten for. Maybe let some of his pits he trained gnaw on him for 35-45 minutes while he's tied down to a chair.

[TLWisfoine]

A woman who is raped usually lives. The dogs were brutally beaten and some were killed. They won't be coming back. I understand we hold human beings to a different standard, but should we? I'm not any kind of animal rights activist or anything, but for what he did, he should be at least be beaten for. Maybe let some of his pits he trained gnaw on him for 35-45 minutes while he's tied down to a chair.

So you are saying we should act in a violent way in order to demonstrate how violence is wrong and to punish the act of violence?

[TheAuthority]

I'm not saying that at all, and I'm not sure where you got that impression. I'm saying if he can kill a defenseless dog, he should at least get the piss beat out of him for it. Or have some of the dogs he abused have a crack at him, while he's tied up, defenseless in a chair.

[T Park]

anyone,
ANYONE

that tries to spin this, politically, racially, and like Deion Sanders, defending it.

Is fucked up,.

PERIOD.

Anyone that tries to defend dog fighting, or defend Vick for dog fighting, is a mouth breathing, doesn't belong to live moron.

Period.

[TLWisfoine]

I'm not saying that at all, and I'm not sure where you got that impression. I'm saying if he can kill a defenseless dog, he should at least get the piss beat out of him for it. Or have some of the dogs he abused have a crack at him, while he's tied up, defenseless in a chair.

Or for racist pieces of crap like you string him up a tree!!!

[TheAuthority]

Or for racist pieces of crap like you string him up a tree!!!

Or that.

[TLWisfoine]

The Authority


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[TheAuthority]

If I wanted to lynch blacks, do you think I would have a Tim Duncan sig and avatar?

[TLWisfoine]

If I wanted to lynch blacks, do you think I would have a Tim Duncan sig and avatar?

Oh please David Duke, even racists such as yourself can cheer for a black man when they play for their favorite team.

[samikeyp]

I'm not saying that at all, and I'm not sure where you got that impression. I'm saying if he can kill a defenseless dog, he should at least get the piss beat out of him for it. Or have some of the dogs he abused have a crack at him, while he's tied up, defenseless in a chair.

If Michael Vick is found guilty of dogfighting, then I would love to see this happen to him. Not because he is black, but because I find dogfighting disgusting and have no sympathy for those who do it. Bear in mind though, I feel the same thing about rapists and child molesters. To me, no punishment is too harsh for those three crimes.

[Santa Claus]

Oh please David Duke, even racists such as yourself can cheer for a black man when they play for their favorite team.

Ho-ho-ho, I see a little boy who needs a present to cheer him up.

http://www.pete-online.us/Images/RaceCardSharpJack.jpg

[TLWisfoine]

Hey Santa Claus, the parades coming to town!!!


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[Slinkyman]

The funny thing about TLWisfoine is that he's a 14 year old white kid that lives in plano.

[TLWisfoine]

The funny thing is that this Authority guy can make blatently racist comments in other threads and I'm the bad guy, and I don't have to prove shit to you believe whatever you want!!!

[peewee's lovechild]

Yea, so anyway, Godell would have banned his ass . . . and it could still happen.

[Norcal's MathTeacher]

The funny thing is that this Authority guy can make blatently racist comments in other threads and I'm the bad guy, and I don't have to prove shit to you believe whatever you want!!!

The funny thing is that you look at the world through whatever bizarre set of filters you have and call anyone who doesn't suck your cock a racist.

[TLWisfoine]

The funny thing is that you look at the world through whatever bizarre set of filters you have and call anyone who doesn't suck your cock a racist.

Look at this SOB's other posts.

This was concerning the woman who left her children in a car and they died.

It does matter. Why do you think they get discriminated against? For situations just like this. I find it very hard to believe someone white would do this. That might be racist, but it's also truth. If minorities don't want whites to continue to look down on them, this isn't the way to go about earning their respect. And let's not kid ourselves, racism is still everywhere you look.


I believe that everyone is racist, just some more than others. I guarantee every white person on earth that's capable of independent thinking has said the word ###### before, in a hateful manner. On the flip side, I also believe all blacks have done the same, and believe they are entitled to things, because of being slaves over a century ago. In my eyes, they should be lucky to be where they are at. Wake up, do you see chains around your arms and legs? No. Stop complaining. They have the opportunity to thrive and flourish in a country like America. As shitty as the state of America is, it's still the land of opportunity... for everyone. All races. Yet, most of them will leech off of the system for the good portion of their pathetic lives. They act like they're being held back by white people. If you're intelligent enough and you're competent, you can get any job you want in America. "The white man" isn't holding you back. Stop using that as a crutch. It's disgusting.

You attack me for attacking this racist bastard? Figures!!!

[peewee's lovechild]

Micheal Vick is going to prison.

[peewee's lovechild]

Unless he says that he's 6 months pregnant.

[gtownspur]

TLWifoine is a total fag.

[TLWisfoine]

^^^Who told you?

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[Kanye]

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z212/zfussy/vickcourt.jpg

[Bukkaki King]

What would have happened if vick would have raped the dog? I mean if it was a pretty dog then all would have been cool, right?

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

If the guy means from a standpoint of getting away with the crime, then yes, it would have been smarter to rape someone. It's among the hardest crimes to prove because conclusive physical evidence is hard to come by.

If he means that society thinks dog fighting is worse than rape I believe he's dead wrong. Vick is getting condemned in the court of public opinion because of the federal indictment, not the nature of the crime. It's a lot harder to play that off as the result of a prosecutor trying to be a big shot or because an accuser is trying to get something out of the deal by lying. Those could still be the case, but it's less likely if they were able to make a federal case of it.

And on top of that, I think that most people have faith that federal investigators who were able to track crooked deals and moneys through such complex shit as Enron and organized crime should be able to track money used by small time criminals to set this ring up.

[TLWisfoine]

^^^Well Mike Tyson was actually convicted of rape and he was still allowed to fight in title matches after his jail stint.

[K-State Spur]

^^^Well Mike Tyson was actually convicted of rape and he was still allowed to fight in title matches after his jail stint.

he still got fights because they could sell him as a villain. but he was dropped by most of his sponsors.

plus, their is a large difference between team and individual sports (especially with boxing, which has been inconsistently and inexplicably regulated as long as i can remember).

[TLWisfoine]

^^^ Good point with Tyson. What about Lance Rentzel. I know it wasn't rape and we are talking about something that happened years ago, but he was still able to find a job in the NFL after he exposed himself to a minor.

[peewee's lovechild]

Ever since Tyson got out of jail, he's been a joke. He never reclaimed the glory he had previous to the stint in jail.

He had fights against paper weights. And then, he went ape shit. He's a novelty act now.

Can he still punch? Yes. Can he still fight?? Hmmm, I guess . . . when he actually feels like it. But, is he still relevant?? A definite NO.

Micheal Vick could probably play football again if he should go to prison, but it will probably be in the Canadian Footbal League.

He'll be irrelevant, like Tyson is now.

[Trainwreck2100]

Kobe raped a bitch and got off scot free. If Vick just raped someboady he could have called her a whore then payed her money to shut up.

[Obstructed_View]

Animal rights people care more about their cause than their politics. The same cannot be said of the women's rights movement. If Vick were a republican and had raped a bitch, he'd have been in deep shit right now.