Troy Hudson will work out for the Spurs "next Monday"

[juncan]

Q: Talk about your own future. How many teams have you been in contact with?

A: (Friday) morning was the first time - we had talked about the buyout and agreed on it four or five days ago, but (Friday) was the first time I ever really signed anything to be bought out. I really couldn't talk to any teams until then. After that, I've been in contact with San Antonio, I'll be out in San Antonio next Monday. Not a bad place to be at all, the world champions. I'm going to work out with them and see what the opportunity is there, and I'm pretty sure I'll have some other things come up.

http://www.journalstandard.com/articles/2007/08/06/sports/sports12.txt

[timvp]

Awesome find. Props.

I'm not sure how I feel about Hudson. On one hand he's a chucker who doesn't play defense and doesn't have a good attitude. On the other hand, he'd probably be a low risk, medium reward type signing. Pop instructs the team's point guards to all shoot as much as possible, so Hudson would fit like a glove in that regard.

If he signs for the minimum and the Spurs then opt to trade away Beno, I'd be a decent signing. Not great because he's a player who can do more harm than good.

[Streakyshooter08]

Interesting. I have thought about him since he has been released. He is better than Beno of course. If he comes for the minimum I would like to have him. If he doesn't work out just waive him.

P.S. The article was released on sunday, does that mean "next monday" was yesterday?

[T Park]

Ugh, no thanks.....

[Mr. Body]

I'm not sure how I feel about Hudson. On one hand he's a chucker who doesn't play defense and doesn't have a good attitude. On the other hand, he'd probably be a low risk, medium reward type signing. Pop instructs the team's point guards to all shoot as much as possible, so Hudson would fit like a glove in that regard.

I seriously question what the F.O. is doing. It seems they don't even have a plan.

[timvp]

I seriously question what the F.O. is doing. It seems they don't even have a plan.A veteran who got bought out and can be signed for a minimum contract is a classic Spurs move.

Highly doubt anything comes of it. It's probably just a "due diligence workout", as RC likes to say.

[Mr. Body]

Yes, but it also indicates there's nothing going on in any other area, nothing immanent happening (Udoka). Which Monday did he mean? Yesterday or next week?

That said, his best season was about four years ago and he's been an injury-prone not much since.

[whottt]

Yes, but it also indicates there's nothing going on in any other area, nothing immanent happening (Udoka). Which Monday did he mean? Yesterday or next week?


False...it could also indicate they are getting ready to move/looking for a way to move/ Beno and Barry...something they are not going to do with only Jacque Vaughn, Michael Finley and Marcus Williams as the reserves. In particular I think it's the Vaughn situation that is the most worrisome to them.


That said, his best season was about four years ago and he's been an injury-prone not much since.


I will agree with you on this...Hudson pretty much sucks....he was decent one year...but he's been on a serious decline every since.

[Spurs Brazil]

If it's for the minimum contract I'm OK with but I'd like to see the FO finding another wing

[Axl Van Dam]

:wtf Does that mean Marcus Williams won't be signed? :wtf

[Bruno]

Strange move. Spurs are going after a poor man NVE while the original has been a disaster.

Hudson is a talented player and is only 31 years old. If he is healthy, he could be a very good backup PG. Vaughn is a solid PG who won't lose or win games for you, Hudson can win a game for you.

If Spurs sign Hudson, I hope that :
- It will be for a cheap contract.
- Spurs won't hesitate to trade/waive him if he hurts the chemistry.
- Pop won't stick with him if he sucks like he did with NVE in 06. I'm quite confident on this one because NVE had a way better career thant Hudson and because Vaughn is a way more solid alternative than Beno.
- Vaughn will be fine with that.

Baring these conditions, it will be a decent signing that could become a great signing.

It likely means too that Spurs have some serious offer for Beno. I don't see Spurs signing Hudson and keeping Beno.

[Mr. Body]

Strange move. Spurs are going after a poor man NVE while the original has been a disaster.

Exactly my thought. This is a less accomplished Nick the Quick with even fewer point guarding skills.


It likely means too that Spurs have some serious offer for Beno. I don't see Spurs signing Hudson and keeping Beno.

If the Spurs have an offer for Beno, I hope they wouldn't seriously wait until finding his backup. Pull the trigger.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I fear hudson... :depressed

that dude may be one of the worst basketball players in the league.

[ducks]

Udoka would take some of the mle
not even half maybe the rest could go to hudson




hudson could have floated the name spurs out hoping to get other teams to get him an offer or bigger offer then what spurs would pay

[Bruno]

If the Spurs have an offer for Beno, I hope they wouldn't seriously wait until finding his backup. Pull the trigger.

Trading Beno just to trade him make no sense.
I don't think Spurs will trade Beno without a reason to do so (money, roster spot, getting an asset by trading him...) .

[ducks]

not the smartest thing to trade beno if you do not have another point guard signed

[boutons_]

"due diligence workout"

What do the Spurs not already know about this guy from his many years in the league that a workout will reveal? His current hair-style? Any/too many new tatoos?

[ducks]

if he is actually healthy

[boutons_]

A physical tells the Spurs if he's healthy enough to sign, a workout doesn't reveal everything.

I think the Spurs just want to talk to him.

[Spurminator]

Maybe they're just trying to scare Beno into jogging a few laps this summer.

[Mr. Body]

Trading Beno just to trade him make no sense.
I don't think Spurs will trade Beno without a reason to do so (money, roster spot, getting an asset by trading him...) .

For the roster spot, as I and everybody else on this board has been mentioning for the last month.

[lotr1trekkie]

As long as we have Tony and Jacque a third pg is going to see severely limited minutes. Maybe the FO sees him a kind of "instant offense" pg while Tony rests. Beno is doomed to be locked to the bench next year anyway. On some other teams Beno could contirbute more because they don't demand the D. If we moved Beno and signed Hudson to a vet's minimum wouldn't we gain $$$ to spend on someone else?

[Bruno]

For the roster spot, as I and everybody else on this board has been mentioning for the last month.

What's the interest of having a roster spot available if you have no one to fill it ?

[Mr. Body]

What's the interest of having a roster spot available if you have no one to fill it ?

Who cares who you fill it with when you can get rid of Beno's salary and useless body and there are a number of good options for third point guard in his stead?

[Findog]

Interesting. I have thought about him

In what way do you think about him?

[Bruno]

Who cares who you fill it with when you can get rid of Beno's salary and useless body and there are a number of good options for third point guard in his stead?

You think that Beno is useless, not sure Spurs have the same opinion.
You think that there are a lot of good 3rd string PGs available, not sure Spurs have the same opinion.

There are facts too : Beno is still with Spurs and Spurs are looking at Hudson.
These facts prove that Spurs haven't the same evaluation on players than you: either Spurs have some offer for Beno on the table and wait to get a good 3rd string PG to pull the trigger or Spurs have no offer at all for Beno.

[ducks]

countown tell sequa bashes the spurs for talking to troy

[SenorSpur]

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

In what way do you think about him?
:lol

[lotr1trekkie]

Beno is willing to play out the string. He hasn't demanded a release to go back to Europe. We will keep him until some advantage appears. In all honesty he is better than what the Cavs brought off the bench in the finals. He needs the same kind of chance that Steve Blake had with the GS- play in a system that suits him. I don't think Hudson has that mentality. No minutes for 10 games, garbage time, no minutes for 4 games then garbage time etc. We don't need a complainer!

[YODA]

Sigh.....Im scared to go here, but maybe Beno will finally get out of the doghouse this year. I recall Malic Rose being in the doghouse a lot too. Give him some playing time and see if the kid has learned anything. At the very least, he could showcase for a potential trade later in the year. We forget this kid still has some talent. Id like to see him get a little pt and see what the kid does. Im probably completly wrong, but who knows.

Yoda
Do or do not, there is no try

[MoSpur]

A physical tells the Spurs if he's healthy enough to sign, a workout doesn't reveal everything.

I think the Spurs just want to talk to him.

A workout tells a lot more. Why are you upset about him working out? It gives the Spurs a better idea of what they are getting.

[barbacoataco]

I don't like Hudson's game that much.
Is the money Beno makes as a 3rd string PG in the right ballpark? If so, he might be the best option at that position. If they have Beno on the roster next year, I don't see why he can't be at the SG position sometimes. He is a good shooter, and can create his own shot. Keeping Beno as a 3rd string PG/SG combo guard might be better than giving him away, and signing someone like Hudson.

[gmanrulz]

hudsons a baller

[Obstructed_View]

I don't really like Hudson, but if the Spurs sign him then that makes other teams with a need at the point more willing to give up a second rounder or a ham sandwich for Beno.

[mardigan]

If he can stay healthy and doesnt cost too much why not? Guy can shoot, and when he actually was getting minutes was pretty good.
Plus it would be nice to have a backup point guard who can hit a shot once in awhile

[Obstructed_View]

Does he still have that french poodle Spree Jr thing going? He'll have to lose that garbage...

[ducks]

Does he still have that french poodle Spree Jr thing going? He'll have to lose that garbage...
why
is it alway?
sj wore a headband

[thispego]

If he can stay healthy and doesnt cost too much why not? Guy can shoot, and when he actually was getting minutes was pretty good.
Plus it would be nice to have a backup point guard who can hit a shot once in awhile
isn't that exactly what Vaughn did?

[mardigan]

isn't that exactly what Vaughn did?
20-50 in the playoffs isnt exactly what I had in mind.
He hit some nice shots, but it wasnt consistent.
It would be nice to get some points fom the bench at that position is all Im saying

[hater]

he is an immense improvement over Beno. sign him!

[Mr. Body]

Spurs taking the usual route of going for an over-the-hill player and failing to pick out a young talent instead. Boo, scouting!

If they have a taker for Beno, they should push him off right away and save salary, fuck finding a replacement. There will be plenty of guys willing to take the third spot for the minimum. Hudson is a fine risk at that position for pennies, as long as he doesn't expect automatic playing time (and Pop doesn't fall in love with him unnecessarily). Low risk at minimum, though it advances if Pop sees Van Exel in him.

[Obstructed_View]

why
is it alway?
sj wore a headband
Can you please take the time to fucking speak English? With all your posts, one would think you'd fucking proof read at some point.

[Spurs16212]

He is not worth more than the Vet. Minimum...... If the Spurs are able to guarantee only so much than it would be ok because it may not cost them as much....

He is very streaky but when he is on, he is on.... But then again we went through the same thing with Nick Van Exel and he turned out to be a bust. The Spurs should have gone after someone like Jason Hart but its too late now.....

I am just hoping that the Spurs can land Udoka so that they have two solid defenders......

[mardigan]

How old was Van Exel when the Spurs got him, like 34 or 35? And wasnt he coming off a major injury? I dont think comparing Hudson to Van Exel is a very fair comparison other than them having similar games. But even then, at hudsons age, Van Exel was still putiing up some pretty decent numbers

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Troy Hudson's defense makes Van Exel 2006 look like Van Exel 2001.

I would rather see Vaughn run the point than troy freakin hudson....F that..

[MrChug]

How old was Van Exel when the Spurs got him, like 34 or 35? And wasnt he coming off a major injury? I dont think comparing Hudson to Van Exel is a very fair comparison other than them having similar games. But even then, at hudsons age, Van Exel was still putiing up some pretty decent numbers

I think the abstract comparison is that Hudson, unlike NVE is high-risk-minimal reward. NVE was at least high-risk, high reward. It could work, but the fear is that he'd need solid, consistant minutes to excel in our system or any system...and he won't get them here. He'd have to prove he could defend at an average rate for those minutes-which he can't. The way Pop is and has worked is that you have to break your back during the 4-minute-a-game "tryout" period that he'd have Hudson at for the first 35 games of the season. Hudson would complain publicly...the lockerroom would get wierd and Pop don't play that. He'd be cut and it'd be a failed experiment. Rather than take a chance, let's just stick with Beno.

[ducks]

people think spurs can get a steve nash player for a third point guard or second point guard

unreal

[Switchman]

Listening to STSA, Jeff and Walter thought they were pretty badass to have "broken" this story today haha.

[Marcus Bryant]

Troy Hudson?

:greedy

[ShoogarBear]

Ghost Writer approves.

[SenorSpur]

He is not worth more than the Vet. Minimum...... If the Spurs are able to guarantee only so much than it would be ok because it may not cost them as much....

He is very streaky but when he is on, he is on.... But then again we went through the same thing with Nick Van Exel and he turned out to be a bust. The Spurs should have gone after someone like Jason Hart but its too late now.....

I am just hoping that the Spurs can land Udoka so that they have two solid defenders......

Good point. I too would have much rather preferred Jason Hart. The Spurs simply didn't act soon enough.

[Findog]

I think the abstract comparison is that Hudson, unlike NVE is high-risk-minimal reward. NVE was at least high-risk, high reward. It could work, but the fear is that he'd need solid, consistant minutes to excel in our system or any system...and he won't get them here. He'd have to prove he could defend at an average rate for those minutes-which he can't. The way Pop is and has worked is that you have to break your back during the 4-minute-a-game "tryout" period that he'd have Hudson at for the first 35 games of the season. Hudson would complain publicly...the lockerroom would get wierd and Pop don't play that. He'd be cut and it'd be a failed experiment. Rather than take a chance, let's just stick with Beno.

NVE = rings. Spurs romped to another title his year in the Alamo City.

[Marcus Bryant]

I'd rather keep Beno. :oops

[baseline bum]

I wouldn't mind signing Hudson for a minimum deal. He could be a situational guy: when the Spurs need defense from the point, Jacque runs the show. When the team is desperate to space the floor, they can give Hudson a few minutes. He'd be a decent third string PG for this team if he can step in and hit an open J.

[SequSpur]

Devin Brown > Hudson + Beno+Vaughn+Williams+Coyote+Dancing Usher

[Solid D]

Matter of fact, I see this as one of those EEOBC* situations.

Equal Employment Opportunity for Ballers Commission.

[Marcus Bryant]

Was Antony Carter not available?

[ducks]

you act like they can get a steve nash clone for a third point guard

[Marcus Bryant]

Can they get someone better than Beno?

[ducks]

when is beno healthy?

[Slinkyman]

when is beno healthy?

being lazy isn't an injury

[Man In Black]

Hmmm, I have visions of that guy getting hot and raining jumpers like the Jaren Jacksons, Stephen Jacksons, and Steve Kerr's for that 1 magical game.
If he is at a minimum price, then I say, let him come workout.

[timvp]

Hudson is one of the game's streakiest players. When the going is good, T-Hud is pretty solid. When he goes cold, Thud sucks.

:hat

[Mr. Body]

Hudson is one of the game's streakiest players. When the going is good, T-Hud is pretty solid. When he goes cold, Thud sucks.

:hat

Yet he hasn't been on the good side of streaky since 2003. I believe that was a while ago.

[ducks]

Troy Hudson: Cavs Interested

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com
Sunday, August 5, 2007
Update: The Cavaliers have shown interest in Hudson, whose $12 million buyout became official on Friday, the Akron Beacon Journal reports.

Recommendation: Hudson, a 10-year veteran who averaged 5.9 points and 2.1 assists last year for Minnesota, is reportedly interested in coming to the Cavs and would play for the veteran's minimum. Cleveland is looking for a starter-quality point guard for the upcoming season, but not someone that will stunt the growth of Daniel Gibson.

[ShoogarBear]

Hudson is one of the game's streakiest players. When the going is good, T-Hud is pretty solid. When he goes cold, Thud sucks.

:hatHudson fits into the "sign a guy who had a career game against the Spurs" plan.

Also is coming from the Twolves.

Hmm, who was the last guy like that?

[41times]

Hold on a minute here.....Is this the Same Troy Hudson that i posted that was getting bought out by Minnesota and might being going to Boston to be with his buddy K.G.? and then got blasted for posting the info on Spurs Talk.
Then i explained how the Spurs might be interested in him as a free agent and maybe they could sign him instead of Boston?.......Interesting........ :king

[Mr. Body]

Hold on a minute here.....Is this the Same Troy Hudson that i posted that was getting bought out by Minnesota and might being going to Boston to be with his buddy K.G.? and then got blasted for posting the info on Spurs Talk.
Then i explained how the Spurs might be interested in him as a free agent and maybe they could sign him instead of Boston?.......Interesting........ :king

Don't tell me you're running the fucking Spurs front office now. That'd make a lot of sense now, how crap the offseason has been.

[El_Mago]

Is this the same Troy Hudson whose new rap album, "Undrafted" sold a mere 78 copies in its first week, and officially went "wood?"

[polayer1]

This is the same guy who sold 78 copies of his rap album. Must be looking for work in the NBA to subsidize his rapping career...

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47423/20070801/hudsons_rap_album_sells_78_copies_in_first_week/

Pioneer Press -
Timberwolves guard Troy Hudson's first rap album, "Undrafted," sold 78 copies in the first week after it was released on July 17.

[Clutch20]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1888515#post1888515

[Spurs Brazil]

Free agent point guard Troy Hudson's agent, Bill Neff, said his client is interested in joining the Cavs. It's unclear how much interest the Cavs have in Hudson.

http://www.news-herald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18691826&BRD=1698&PAG=461&dept_id=21848&rfi=6

[T Park]

just what point guard is available thats better than Beno?

Would love to see the list.

[Obstructed_View]

just what point guard is available thats better than Beno?

Would love to see the list.
So Payton, Wilks, Boykins and Hudson, right? Of course, that's all the point guards that I can think of.

EDIT: I just thought of one that's not better than Beno: Dee Brown. I'd still rather have him here than Beno, though.

[Mr. Body]

Instead of trading their exception for Beno, the Cavs will sign Troy Hudson instead. Sweet. This is the sort of movement that will ensure the Spurs won't spend again, nor sign Ime Udoka.

[zekes]

This is the same guy who sold 78 copies of his rap album. Must be looking for work in the NBA to subsidize his rapping career...

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47423/20070801/hudsons_rap_album_sells_78_copies_in_first_week/

Pioneer Press -
Timberwolves guard Troy Hudson's first rap album, "Undrafted," sold 78 copies in the first week after it was released on July 17.

He sure has a large family.

[lotr1trekkie]

Sign Beno to a 5 year extension a be done with it.

[jman3000]

dude was flippin insane in 04 during the WCF against LA if i recall... but that was a long time and a lot of injuries ago.

[TDMVPDPOY]

so had he have his tryout yet or still deciding which monday?

if he comes get rid of that hairstyle with the 2 moth balls on his head

[ducks]

Instead of trading their exception for Beno, the Cavs will sign Troy Hudson instead. Sweet. This is the sort of movement that will ensure the Spurs won't spend again, nor sign Ime Udoka.what title contenders are spending money?

[Holt's Cat]

The Spurs are obviously trying to force the Cavs to take Beno.

[sickdsm]

Ugh, no thanks.....


I seem to remember some dumbass ragging on me for saying i'd rather see Darrik Martin buckup Alien than Huddy, especially in the playoffs in 04.


You liked him so much.


FWIW, his ankle IMO ruined him. Not physically but he relied on his speed, when he was hurt and Flip didn't rest him, he started shooting alot of outside shots. He has never gotten past that mentally.

[raspsa]

He got little playing time last season so he should be well rested and hopefully recuperated from any nagging injuries.. I like him as a backup to TP.. you'd have JV for defense and TH for offense, depending on what the situation calls for..

[Mr. Body]

Spurs trade Beno Udrih and a future 2nd rounder (Houston's) to Cleveland for David Wesley's contract. Sign Troy Hudson for vet minimum.

[hsxvvd]

Yuck! No.

[Bruno]

http://www.twincities.com/walters/ci_6840019?nclick_check=1


Point guard Troy Hudson, who received a $10 million contract buyout from the Timberwolves this summer, is talking with the San Antonio Spurs and Milwaukee Bucks but wants his role defined before he'll sign.

[ducks]

seems to me beno is out

[SenorSpur]

I doubt that Hudson will accept a role as a 3rd PG - even on a championship team.

[ducks]

but they are also bringing in garcia

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Garcia>Hudson

[The Franchise]

I say sign him only if you plan on having him play backup for 1/3 of a season. We know what happens next. :td