reggie and the celtics?

[saporvida]

son of a bitch... i swear the celtics are trying to topple us all. now reggie miller is gonna be a celtic too? maybe.

[suitedkings]

link?

[duncan228]

Discussion going on here:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75595

[Viva Las Espuelas]

son of a bitch... i swear the celtics are trying to topple us all. now reggie miller is gonna be a celtic too? maybe.you can't polish a terd, my friend.

[Findog]

Discussion going on here:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75595

I can't wait to see SequSpur pop a blood vessel.

[Bukkaki King]

Looks like they are trying to pull what L.A. did a few years back. we saw how that turned out, too many egos if you ask me. Maybe they should ask Roger Clemens as well.

:clap

No Weezin the juice

[bdictjames]

Wow they're trying to get as much veterans as possible.. I bet about 5 years from now they will have a team that will challenge the least wins for a season.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I hear they are bringing back Antoine Carr too.

[Dex]

Maybe they can pull Karl Malone, Dennis Rodman, and Scottie Pippen out of the woodworks, too.

I'll admit, as much as I hate Reggie as a commentator, I'm glad he chose to walk away from the game he played so well with style.

I'd have more respect for him for that, then I would EVEN if he won a ring with some long-shot scheme like this.

[SenorSpur]

Reggie, Reggie, please go away.

This type of experiment has already been tried before - see 2004 L.A. Fakers.

[ShoogarBear]

Maybe Larry Bird is walking through that door.

[boutons_]

Reginald thinks he can get a ring under Doc Rivers?

[Obstructed_View]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: As a fan of basketball that watches televised games, I'm praying somebody picks up Reggie.

If Turner wanted intelligent commentary on basketball delivered articulately and with a sense of humor, they hired the wrong freakin' Miller. I think they actually hired Reggie to keep Barkley from looking quite so stupid.

[IceColdBrewski]

Ainge continues to prove what a major dipshit he is. Boston needs versatile wing defenders and post rebounders. Miller solves neither problem.

[kris]

Can somebody link back to where I mentioned Miller as a possibility for the Spurs and I got laughed at and even had a reggie miller screen name created because I had suggested the idea of Miller making a comeback for another team?

Just checking to see if those who romped around in that post had selective memories or not.

[Mr. Body]

Fantastic. As if they need another guy to shoot the ball.

[clubalien]

I thought reggie miller would be a pacer for life and retire a pacer. This is mind blowing if it is the player i am thinkin of.

[SRJ]

Maybe Larry Bird is walking through that door.

:lol

[waly.mg]

Miller expected to take a hefty paycut

ESPN.com news services

Updated: August 20, 2003, 9:46 PM ET


As an unrestricted free agent, Reggie Miller apparently had an opportunity to join Karl Malone in Los Angeles with the Lakers.



But instead of taking shots alongside Malone, Miller sounded like he was taking a few shots at Malone. At least indirectly.

In announcing his new multiyear contract to stay in Indiana as a member of the Pacers, Miller took the anti-Malone approach. He opted to stick with the only team he's known instead of chasing an elusive NBA title with a more likely contender.

"I didn't want to be like some other guys who jump on another team's bandwagon just to get a ring," Miller said.

[CubanMustGo]

First Scot Pollard, then Reggie Miller ...

of such moves championships are NOT made.

[Obstructed_View]

Can somebody link back to where I mentioned Miller as a possibility for the Spurs and I got laughed at and even had a reggie miller screen name created because I had suggested the idea of Miller making a comeback for another team?

Just checking to see if those who romped around in that post had selective memories or not.
If you suggested Reggie coming to play for the Spurs, that's why you got laughed at. The fact that he might go to the worst team in the league doesn't make that suggestion less stupid. Adding Reggie Miller to a team that's going to have people competing for shots is not much brighter.

[Reggie Miller]

Can somebody link back to where I mentioned Miller as a possibility for the Spurs and I got laughed at and even had a reggie miller screen name created because I had suggested the idea of Miller making a comeback for another team?

Just checking to see if those who romped around in that post had selective memories or not.


Membership profiles don't lie. I have been a member since 2005. I just don't post much during the off-season and regular season. I don't have NBA TV, so I can't contribute much to actual discussions of regular season games. (Thanks a lot, major networks.) FOX Sports is all Pacers on the Midwest channel.

[ShoogarBear]

"I didn't want to be like some other guys who jump on another team's bandwagon just to get a ring," Miller said. You think joining the Celtics is getting on a bandwagon? :lol

[BeerIsGood!]

Oh, please sign on Reggie!! I'd love to see this freak show in Boston - they'll contend for the worst defense in the league with those wing players.

[41times]

Wow they're trying to get as much veterans as possible.. I bet about 5 years from now they will have a team that will challenge the least wins for a season.

Forrest>>>>>>Trees.......

The point is to win now. Nobody gives a shit about 5 years from now. If they sign Miller and Troy Hudson, they are almost a Lock Bet to get to the NBA Finals from the East.

That town was used to winning and it has been a long time since they have. so i am pretty sure that they would trade a old suckfest team then (like they have had recently) in 5 years for a few Trips to the Finals over the next 5 years. As would most teams.

[Obstructed_View]

Forrest>>>>>>Trees.......

The point is to win now. Nobody gives a shit about 5 years from now. If they sign Miller and Troy Hudson, they are almost a Lock Bet to get to the NBA Finals from the East.

That town was used to winning and it has been a long time since they have. so i am pretty sure that they would trade a old suckfest team then (like they have had recently) in 5 years for a few Trips to the Finals over the next 5 years. As would most teams.
All star teams rarely win anything, and teams almost never win the first year after major roster changes. In all of pro sports, the Marlins are the only ones that spring to mind that have had any ability to win right away after going on a shopping spree. Adding personnel only increases the chances that the team will implode from the expectations and the pressure. They've got nobody that has any kind of history of winning anything on that team.

[BeerIsGood!]

Forrest>>>>>>Trees.......

The point is to win now. Nobody gives a shit about 5 years from now. If they sign Miller and Troy Hudson, they are almost a Lock Bet to get to the NBA Finals from the East.



They're not even close to a lock. If those two sign on they have too many people to do one thing... shoot the ball. That's all they have besides Garnett are guys who shoot the ball. No defense, no experienced PG, no bench... just shoot first guys. That team would more than likely be behind the Bulls, and possibly the Pistons and Cavs.

[Reggie Miller]

They're not even close to a lock. If those two sign on they have too many people to do one thing... shoot the ball. That's all they have besides Garnett are guys who shoot the ball. No defense, no experienced PG, no bench... just shoot first guys. That team would more than likely be behind the Bulls, and possibly the Pistons and Cavs.

Actually, if you could somehow meld the Celtics' and Cavaliers' rosters, you would have a pretty decent team on both ends of the floor.

After the Finals, I don't believe that the Cavaliers are capable of winning the EC next year. Even if you hold your opponent to zero, your team still has to score at least one point to win the game. Obviously, that is hyperbole, but we all saw the same series, right? (I realize that the Spurs are the best defensive team in the league, but come on...)

To me the Pistons are the real key to the East. If they play to their true capability, it should be a lock. (IMHO, the Spurs and Pistons probably should have played for the championship every year since 2003.) With Saunders, we expected defensive intensity to lapse and scoring to increase. At times last season, the Pistons still struggled offensively. If we could predict which Pistons team will show up, then I think we could more or less predict how the whole EC will shake out.

The Bulls are starting to look pretty good by default, but I don't believe in their offense, either. Without any real post presence, the Bulls lack flexibility and easy scoring opportunities.

All of the teams favored in the East routinely have major scoring droughts, to the point that they are sometimes never really in a position to win a critical game. (The Pistons aren't quite that bad off, yet.) The Celtics should not have that problem. However, they will need big games from all three of their stars just to stay close with that "defense." As others have mentioned, it usually takes a full season for major roster changes to work out; sometimes it never happens at all (read: 2004 Lakers).

In the final analysis, Miller would help all but the most elite teams. I feel very confident that he would not cause chemistry problems. If Miller were willing to be a bench player/three point specialist, then he would obviously be better option than your typical 8th-12th man. I really don't think that's debatable. You can criticize his defense all you want (and you should when comparing him to the best guards of all time), but he is not a defensive liability when compared to your typical 8th-12th man.

The question for the Celtics isn't "is Miller THE solution?" but instead, "can we fill a roster spot with a Reggie Miller willing to play for virtually nothing?" If the answer to the latter is yes, then it's a great move. If not, then no big deal either way.

As for Reggie playing for another team, I doubt it. He has always made it clear that he would not go this route and would retire as a Pacer. However, as a lifelong Pacer fan, I could accept Miller going to the Celtics. (Becuase of Larry Bird, there are significant numbers of Boston fans in Indiana anyway.) It's not like we're talking the Lakers or Knicks here. I would prefer if he stayed a Pacer for life, but I wouldn't hold something like this against him, either.

[41times]

They're not even close to a lock. If those two sign on they have too many people to do one thing... shoot the ball. That's all they have besides Garnett are guys who shoot the ball. No defense, no experienced PG, no bench... just shoot first guys. That team would more than likely be behind the Bulls, and possibly the Pistons and Cavs.

Don't get me wrong, i love the Bulls team. In fact i have predicted them to be in the Finals for the last 2 years but they seem to run into the wrong team at the wrong time in the playoffs.

But consider your logic like this. If the Celtics sign Hudson and Miller to go along with KG, Pierce, Allen, Olowokandi and 6 spares they will have 3 great players and 3 other good players and an inexperience bench. Which sounds like another Run and Gun team we all know and hate, the Suns. Now i am not comparing the PG situation to the Suns but if you were to put the Suns in the East they would win 70 games. So would the Mavs and Spurs.

So i am pretty confident the Celtics could win at least 55 games in the East with the aforementioned lineup. And 55 wins will get you the top seed in the East.

Last year the Pistons won 53 games and had the top seed. ONly 1 other team won 50 games, Cleveland. And while finishing with the top record in your conference does not gaurantee you a trip to the Finals it certainly helps to have a game 7 on your own court if needed.

If the Celtics get those other 2 players, tell me who has an easier road to the Finals in these 2 groups:

Celtics, Bulls, Cleveland, Detroit, Heat, Raptors

and/or

Spurs, Mavs, Suns, Rockets, Denver, Jazz