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dallaskd
08-12-2007, 06:34 PM
UFC 74: Respect

If you'd have asked me what I thought the UFC Heavyweight Title fight on the August card would be at the beginning of the year, I would've said without a shadow of a doubt, Tim Sylvia vs. Mirko Cro Cop. Well, MMA is a funny old game, and in a year filled with stunning upsets, two of the biggest ones have come in the Heavyweight division, as first Sylvia lost his title in a lopsided decision against the 43-year old Randy Couture, while Cro Cop was knocked unconscious by his own weapon - a high kick to the head - by unheralded Brazilian Gabriel Gonzaga. And suddenly, we were left with a completely different, albeit just as interesting, title bout. So here's the breakdown.

Name: Randy Couture
Nickname: The Natural
Born: Everett, Washington, USA
Fighting Out Of: Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 220lbs
MMA Record: 15-8-0
Style: Wrestling

Background: What can you say about Randy Couture that hasn't already been said? A world-class wrestler, Couture has found more success since transitioning to MMA than arguably any other fighter originally from that field. Beginning his UFC career back at UFC 13 in 1997, Couture first captured the imagination of MMA fans by becoming the first man to defeat the 'Phenom', Vitor Belfort, later that year. Randy went on to win the UFC Heavyweight Title from Maurice Smith, and after a brief excursion to Japan that saw mixed success, he returned to the Octagon in 2000 and became the first man to capture a UFC title twice, as he regained his Heavyweight crown by stopping Kevin Randleman in the fourth round of their title bout. After two successful defences against Brazilian striker Pedro Rizzo, Couture would suffer a crushing defeat at the hands of a larger, equally skilled grappler in Josh Barnett. However, after testing positive for anabolic steroids, Barnett was stripped of the title and Couture would get a chance to regain it, facing off with Ricco Rodriguez. Another large, skilled grappler, Rodriguez was able to weather Couture's early storm for the first two rounds of a titanic battle, and came back to stop Randy via strikes in the fifth and final round.

At thirty-nine years old and coming off two devastating losses, many fans saw the Rodriguez fight as the end of the road for Couture, but in the first of many points, Randy proved the doubters wrong. Always a smaller heavyweight at just over 220lbs, Couture cut down to the Light-Heavyweight limit of 205lbs midway through 2003 for a fight with the #1 Contender, Chuck Liddell. Most expected the dangerous striker Liddell to 'ice' Randy, but it was not to be, as Couture shocked everyone by showing a much-improved striking game, and took the fight to Liddell standing before stopping the kickboxer with strikes on the ground in the third round. With this win Couture captured the Interim Light-Heavyweight Title. A unification bout with the then-champion Tito Ortiz loomed, and as many doubters raised their heads again, but once more Couture proved them wrong, outwrestling and completely dominating Ortiz en route to a five-round shutout decision. Briefly losing the title via a fluke cut stoppage to Vitor Belfort did not slow Randy down, and in August 2004 he recaptured the gold, dominating Belfort as he had done seven years previous.

As UFC began to blow up into the mainstream pop culture in early 2005, Couture became one of the first fighters to step into the realm of superstardom. Coaching one of the teams on the first season of The Ultimate Fighter alongside old rival Chuck Liddell, Randy became arguably the most recognizable man in MMA. The first pay-per-view broadcast following TUF saw Couture defend his title against Liddell in a rematch, but despite smashing the UFC buyrate record at the time, the show was not a successful one for Randy, as he was knocked out by Liddell in the first round. Amidst a variety of personal problems including a looming divorce, Couture struggled to regain form in his comeback fight, needing two-and-a-half rounds to put away ageing wrestler Mike Van Arsdale, and in February, 2006's rematch with Liddell, Randy was once again knocked out, this time in the second round. At fourty-two years old, Couture decided after the Liddell fight to hang up the gloves for good, and later in 2006 he was duly inducted into UFC's Hall of Fame.

Following retirement, Couture eased into the role of a full-time trainer and colour commentator, but as in pro-wrestling, MMA retirements are never truly the end. When Brandon Vera's contract hit a stumbling block in early 2007, Randy decided to do the unthinkable and return from retirement, stepping back into his old stomping ground of the Heavyweight division to take on champion Tim Sylvia. The doubters - including yours truly this time - again raised their ugly heads, questioning Couture's judgement in stepping back into the heavyweight realm, especially against a man who, at 6'8" and 265lbs, was even larger than the men who had forced Randy down to 205lbs in the first place. But in one of the most unbelievable performances in UFC history, the fourty-three year old Couture was able to shock everyone by dominating Sylvia both standing and on the ground, claiming a five-round decision to once again take the Heavyweight Title. The only three-time Heavyweight champion, the only two-time Light-Heavyweight champion, and the only man to win titles in two different weight classes, Couture is as big an MMA legend as they come.

Strengths: Randy Couture is a world-class wrestler and uses his skill to full advantage in the Octagon. Unlike some other successful MMA wrestlers, Couture is equally skilled in both freestyle wrestling and Greco-Roman wrestling, meaning that he can take an opponent down from practically any area, being as comfortable clinching and delivering a trip or bodylock takedown as he is shooting in from the outside with a double-leg. Couture has not yet faced an opponent who has been completely able to stop his takedowns, and once on the mat, Randy is brutal with his ground-and-pound, using a plethora of elbows, forearms and punches to damage his opponents. While Joe Rogan might insist that it is much better to pass guard in order to damage an opponent, Couture is one of those rare fighters who can do just as much damage inside an opponent's guard, and he's also dangerous with the front facelock position, throwing knee strikes to the body and shoulders. Randy's submission game is a bit more of a question mark, simply because he rarely uses it, but he did use an anaconda choke to submit Van Arsdale, and he also held his own with grappling master Ronaldo Jacare in a pure-grappling match earlier in 2007.

Standing, Couture is also a surprisingly good kickboxer, often showing good footwork, timing, and angles, the best example of these being his first fight with Chuck Liddell. Randy also showed excellent head movement in his recent fight with Tim Sylvia, but his best weapon standing is the clinch game, as he is known to use a Greco clinch to open up with what he likes to call "dirty boxing" - short uppercuts, hooks, and rabbit punches from close quarters that wear down an opponent. This was used to devastating effect against Vitor Belfort. Couture's cardio is known to be second-to-none inside the Octagon, and he has gone the full five rounds (twenty-five minutes) on multiple occasions with little difficulty.

Weaknesses: While Randy Couture's actual skills are incredibly strong on paper, the question mark surrounding him is always going to be his advanced age. Couture will be fourty-four years old when he steps into the Octagon with Gabriel Gonzaga. While age won't necessarily take away his wrestling skill or his mind for the game, it will almost certainly slow down his pace and dull his reflexes. This slower pace was the major factor in what allowed Liddell to knock him out in their last two encounters, and it was also the slower pace that affected him against Van Arsdale. Sylvia didn't give him nearly as much problems as those two fighters did, but even against a man who's sole offense in that fight was a heavy jab, Randy was exhausted by the third round and pulled through the final two with pure heart and the will to prevail. I have no doubt that Couture trained as hard as he ever has for the Sylvia fight; it was his advanced age that caused his cardio to be weaker than it has been in the past.

Couture's other major weakness would appear to be with fighters who are naturally larger than him and who also have an equally strong grappling game. While Randy did have his moments against Barnett and Rodriguez, eventually the larger men were able to overpower him, put him in the bottom position where he is not really used to operating from, and from there they were able to pound Randy to a stoppage. Gabriel Gonzaga would fit the bill of said larger grappler.

Tactics?: Couture will most likely approach the Gonzaga fight in the same way that he approaches most of his fights. I expect him to look to wear Gonzaga down early by utilising the clinch and pummelling him inside early, before taking him to the ground and unleashing his ground-and-pound assault. Depending on how confident he is in his own conditioning, Randy may also want to weather the early storm and take Gonzaga into the uncharted waters that are the fourth and fifth - the championship - rounds.

Name: Gabriel Gonzaga
Nickname: Napao
Born: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Fighting Out Of: Ludlow, Massachusetts, USA
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 242lbs
MMA Record: 8-1-0
Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

Background: One of the most accomplished grapplers in the world, Brazil's Gabriel Gonzaga is a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Wander Braga, and has seen success in many grappling competitions, being a four-time BJJ national champion, 2006 Mundials champion, and the runner up in the 2005 Abu Dhabi submission grappling tournament. Gonzaga made the transition to MMA in 2003, and put together a strong 5-1 record over the following two years, most of his wins coming in the Brazilian Jungle Fight promotion. In late 2005 he made his UFC debut, stopping Kevin Jordan in the third round with a superman punch, after one of the slowest and most boring fights in UFC history. After finding out about the horrible personal circumstances that surrounded Gonzaga's debut (one of his baby twins passed away) most fans were willing to forgive the Brazilian's lacklustre performance, and he performed far better the second time out, stopping fellow Brazilian Fabiano Scherner with strikes in the 2nd round of their undercard fight at last May's UFC 60.

A scheduled September fight against UK-based Brazilian Mario Neto fell through, and the next time we saw Gonzaga was on the undercard of December's UFC 66. There, he schooled undefeated wrestling-based Heavyweight Carmelo Marrero, stunning him with a left hook early before taking Marrero to the mat and running a BJJ clinic on him, eventually finishing with a textbook armbar from the mount late in the first round. 'Napao' was then given the unenviable task of facing former PRIDE superstar Mirko Cro Cop in his second Octagon appearance, with a shot at Couture's Heavyweight crown on the line. In front of a sold out MEN Arena in Manchester, England, most expected Cro Cop to avoid Gonzaga's ground skill and stop him on the feet, but instead Gonzaga surprised everyone, punishing Mirko on the ground with elbow strikes, before knocking him out standing with a right high kick to the dome, giving Cro Cop a taste of his own medicine. Suddenly Gonzaga became the new heavyweight to fear in the UFC's once-shallow division.

Strengths: As I mentioned above, Gonzaga is undoubtedly a world-class submission grappler. Unlike Jeff Monson, for instance, who primarily wins his submission wrestling bouts by stifling his opponent's game en route to a decision, Gonzaga is more of a submission-based player, and he's tapped out the likes of Marcio 'Pe De Pano' Cruz in Abu Dhabi competition. In MMA he's shown a very talented ground game, especially from the top position. He was able to absolutely own every aspect of the ground game against Carmelo Marrero, was tooling Kevin Jordan on the mat until he became fatigued in the second round, and before his conditioning betrayed him, was also having his way with the equally impressive grappler Fabricio Werdum in their 2003 bout. At 6'2", 242lbs, Gonzaga is a large heavyweight and this makes him a powerful grappler who is difficult to shake once he gets the fight to the ground.

Of course, most recently Gonzaga has become known for his striking game. Training his Muay Thai game with Sityodtong's Mark DellaGrotte, Gonzaga has looked skilled and dangerous standing in his UFC career thus far. Even before the Cro Cop bout, he had won two of his previous three fights with strikes, and his superman punch knockout of Kevin Jordan is one of the rare times I can recall that strike actually finishing a fight. He also picked apart Fabiano Scherner with relative ease, and then there is his latest accomplishment. While Cro Cop has been knocked out before, the way Gonzaga did it was as impressive as any knockout that UFC fans have seen - a whiplash right high kick to the side of the head that had Cro Cop down for around two minutes. Equally dangerous standing and on the ground, Gonzaga is a fully-rounded fighter.

Weaknesses: While I can't recall seeing Gonzaga in trouble yet inside the confines of the UFC, his sole weakness would definitely appear to be his conditioning. His last three fights have ended before the six-minute mark, but in the fight before that, his conditioning looked extremely poor against Kevin Jordan, as he was sucking wind and looked exhausted halfway through the second round. Granted, you could definitely blame that on a lack of training following his personal tragedy, but it also stands that his sole loss in MMA, to Fabricio Werdum in 2003, was also down to poor cardio. Dominating early - Gonzaga even had Werdum mounted at one point - he ran out of gas and it was this that allowed Werdum to take over in the third round, where he stopped Gonzaga with strikes. With a larger frame that isn't exactly one of the most ripped in MMA, against a known cardio freak like Couture Gonzaga could be in trouble if the fight reaches the fourth or fifth round. Tellingly, this is the first time that Napao will potentially go for the full twenty-five minutes.

And while his ground game is undoubtedly second to none in the grappling world, in MMA it's a whole different ball game. We have yet to see Gonzaga on the bottom for an extended period of time, and against a wrestler the calibre of Couture that might change. It's one thing to submit a man from your guard in submission grappling, but it's another thing when that man is raining down punches and forearms onto your face.

Tactics?: Despite his recent success striking, I suspect Gonzaga will want to take Randy Couture out of his element, by using his superior size and strength to muscle the champion to the ground. From there, he will most likely use the same gameplan as Barnett and Rodriguez did - wear Couture down with strikes en route to a stoppage, or opening up the chance for a potential submission.

How It Breaks Down: Couture vs. Gonzaga is as intriguing a fight as any this year to me, primarily because it's such a difficult one to call. In terms of sheer skill, things would suggest that Randy's game plays right into Gonzaga's hands. Gonzaga is a better submission grappler than Couture and he's at least Randy's equal standing. Being the larger man, he's also one of the few people with the ability to put Randy on the bottom where he is at his most uncomfortable, and on past history Gonzaga fits the mould of the fighters who have given Couture the most problems. With Couture's advanced age also a factor, it would appear that he has his work cut out for him. But that would be to doubt Randy Couture, which we have seen so many times in the past is a tremendous mistake.

Not only is Couture one of the most skilled fighters out there, he is also one of the smartest. Since when has Randy Couture come into a fight with a poor gameplan? The answer is never. Couture also has tremendous experience in the longer, more drawn out and tactical title fights. In fact just one of his previous twelve fights has been a non-title fight with the possibility of less than five rounds. With Gonzaga's questionable cardio in the past, I have no doubt in my mind that if the fight goes into the fourth, fifth, or even the third round, it's advantage Couture. A wrestler like Couture is also almost impossible to prepare for, as wrestlers of Randy's calibre are so few and far between.

It's a hard one to call, but I feel we'll see it go one of two ways, that is if the fight ends before the third round, then it'll certainly be Gonzaga taking it, either by striking stoppage on the ground or by submission. If the fight goes any longer than that, then I suspect it'll be Couture's hand that is raised in victory, either by a referee stoppage from strikes or a unanimous decision. My heart tells me not to bet against Couture, but in the end I'm going with my head. I think the larger, more powerful Gonzaga will force Couture onto his back early, where he'll take over with strikes from the top en route to beating Couture into offering a submission late in the second round.

Verdict?: Gabriel Gonzaga by submission in the second round.


http://insidefights.insidepulse.com/articles/69533/2007/08/10/the-breakdown-randy-couture-vs-gabriel-gonzaga.html

LEONARD
08-13-2007, 09:24 AM
Tough one to call...I'm leaning towards putting my money on Gonzaga...

Couture
Hard to bet against him in any fight
But is he a TAD over-rated after beating an injured, avg HW in Sylvia?

Gonzaga
Is the real Gonzaga the guy that destroyed CC or the guy that KO'd Kevin Jordan after the worst 14 min's in history?? Was CC just that "off" and/or not prepared for Gonzaga, the cage, or elbows??

While I'll be pulling for Randy because I'm clinging to the hope that we may see Fedor vs Randy soon, I'm thinking that everybody is a little too high on him after beating up on Sylvia...who isn't that great and was hurt.

I think it's either a decision for Randy or a submission/TKO for Gonzaga (which would suck to watch). I haven't put my money down yet...the odds are basically a wash with Randy as a slight underdog on most sites.

MajorMike
08-13-2007, 10:05 AM
The Natural will dominate. Never bet against a Cowboy.

Rip-Hamilton32
08-13-2007, 03:29 PM
im gonna go with randy

stevallica
08-13-2007, 05:36 PM
Couture, TKO, 4th Round

dallaskd
08-13-2007, 05:47 PM
I see Couture with a TKO or Decision, but i would not be suprised at all with Gonzaga winning via tap out.

ALVAREZ6
08-13-2007, 07:26 PM
Gonzaga wins by decision.

TDMVPDPOY
08-14-2007, 07:41 AM
why no vbookie?

LEONARD
08-14-2007, 08:08 AM
Probably because the fights are 11 days away...

spurs=bling
08-14-2007, 11:58 AM
Couture by Decision

ALVAREZ6
08-14-2007, 04:40 PM
Gonzaga is a vicious animal. Couture is amazing, but he is old. My money would be on Zaga.

dallaskd
08-15-2007, 12:40 AM
Gonzaga is a vicious animal. Couture is amazing, but he is old. My money would be on Zaga.

The minute you doubt he will shock you...im sad

oligarchy
08-15-2007, 01:25 PM
Gonzaga (TKO/Submission)

dallaskd
08-16-2007, 07:36 PM
Outside of the CC fight what has Gonzaga proven?

ALVAREZ6
08-16-2007, 07:42 PM
The minute you doubt he will shock you...im sadNo it won't be much of a shock at all. I simply picked Gonzaga.

dallaskd
08-16-2007, 09:46 PM
Outside of the CC fight what has Gonzaga proven?

Evan
08-17-2007, 02:50 PM
Outside of the CC fight what has Gonzaga proven?

Every great fighter has to start their reign somewhere.

But I am still in Gonzaga wait and see mode. Cro Cop did drop one to Randleman so wins over Cro Cop can be flukes.

LEONARD
08-17-2007, 06:00 PM
Outside of the CC fight what has Gonzaga proven?

Not much...who knows if he's the next big thing or if he just had a great night while CC had a terrible one. Randy is a good test for him...

but at the same time, what's Randy done lately at HW besides beat a mediocre AND injured Tim Sylvia??

9/27/2002 - Loss - Ricco Rodriguez Submission to strikes - rd 5, 3:04
3/22/2002 - Loss - Josh Barnett - TKO (Strikes) - rd 2, 4:35

This fight will give a better idea how good GG is and what Randy's really got left IMO. I hope Randy wins, but am still leaning towards GG...

atxrocker
08-19-2007, 11:02 PM
i got gonzaga, but wouldn't be surprised if couture won either.

desflood
08-20-2007, 09:04 AM
Gonzaga by KO/TKO or Randy by decision. I'm leaning toward the former and hoping for the latter.

Evan
08-20-2007, 09:14 AM
Either way, there is no upset.

dallaskd
08-20-2007, 04:33 PM
I cant stand hearing Joe Rogan say Randy would maul Cro Cop.

Evan
08-20-2007, 08:14 PM
Well, if Randy got him in a clinch it could all be over I think. All he would have to do is close the gap and then it may be doomsday.

The problem would be closing that gap without getting his head taken off. Cro Cop has an amazing take down defense but Randy's take downs are elite.

Cro Cop and Randy is the text book example of match ups making or breaking fights.

dallaskd
08-20-2007, 08:34 PM
good point

Evan
08-20-2007, 09:18 PM
But no doubt the word maul is annoying. Its a bit much.

MajorMike
08-26-2007, 11:28 AM
The Natural will dominate. Never bet against a Cowboy.


Score.

dallaskd
08-26-2007, 01:38 PM
Couture's last Fights I'd Like to see...

Arlovski
Nog
Cro Cop
Fedor....
And I'd love to see him finish his career with payback against Josh Barnett

tlongII
08-27-2007, 09:26 AM
Couture really surprised me. I didn't think he would beat Sylvia or Gonzaga. I think he has to fight Fedor now. I don't think you can count him out against Fedor now.

mardigan
08-27-2007, 09:54 AM
Fedor would destroy Randy. I hope Fedor doesnt get to the UFC while Randy holds the belt, it would be like when Drago fought Apollo Creed

Evan
08-27-2007, 12:21 PM
Fedor would destroy Randy.

Not so sure about that. Destroy?

Randy's has recently fought better opponents and in my opinion Fedor's last high quality win was against Cro Cop in 2005 (Hunt is ok.)

Do I think Fedor would win?

Probably - maybe- but destroy is a very strong word against a premeir elite fighter like Randy.

People keep doubting Randy.

Randy has developed into a supreme well rounded fighter. He also has that cold calmness before a fight that few have. Like Fedor.

My best bet says he fights Nog or Arlovski next. Assuming that Nog wins and AA comes out looking like he wants to win the fight. If he is passive in victory he can forget it.

dbreiden83080
08-27-2007, 02:37 PM
Not so sure about that. Destroy?

Randy's has recently fought better opponents and in my opinion Fedor's last high quality win was against Cro Cop in 2005 (Hunt is ok.)

Do I think Fedor would win?

Probably - maybe- but destroy is a very strong word against a premeir elite fighter like Randy.

People keep doubting Randy.

Randy has developed into a supreme well rounded fighter. He also has that cold calmness before a fight that few have. Like Fedor.

My best bet says he fights Nog or Arlovski next. Assuming that Nog wins and AA comes out looking like he wants to win the fight. If he is passive in victory he can forget it.

I don't think the UFC could sell AA and Randy. AA lost 2 fights to Tim Sylvia who Randy crushed and now he has whooped Gonzaga who beat Mirko CC. Most people would think Randy would beat AA easy.

Evan
08-27-2007, 03:02 PM
But there aren't many out there deserving of a title shot.

Nog is a for sure legit match if he wins again..

Vera makes no sense and is taken...

Tim is taken...

Cro Cop is 1-1 (UFC) but maybe makes sense if he redeems himself...

AA is a former champ who the fans love when he is aggressive and he needs another fight. Dana White already stated he would have been in contention had he not been so passive in his last 2 fights (although he won them)

Mir needs another 2 or 3 solid fights...

The options at HW aren't vast.

But this doesn't matter because as I was typing this I remembered Arlovski trains part time with Randy. lol

So I guess that just leaves Nog and Cro Cop. Nog would be fascinating.

And of course, Fedor is an instant deserving match up but his camp will want one non title fight to start things off. So lets say he signed today he probably wouldn't fight until October at the very earliest, then a title shot in March (Fedor has stated he wants more time off between fights for now on). Thats a long layoff for Randy and way too much speculation on my part. lol

mardigan
08-27-2007, 06:13 PM
Not so sure about that. Destroy?

Randy's has recently fought better opponents and in my opinion Fedor's last high quality win was against Cro Cop in 2005 (Hunt is ok.)

Do I think Fedor would win?

Probably - maybe- but destroy is a very strong word against a premeir elite fighter like Randy.

People keep doubting Randy.

Randy has developed into a supreme well rounded fighter. He also has that cold calmness before a fight that few have. Like Fedor.

My best bet says he fights Nog or Arlovski next. Assuming that Nog wins and AA comes out looking like he wants to win the fight. If he is passive in victory he can forget it.
Fedor has faught a much higher quality of opponents than Randy, and pretty much completley dominated them, maybe destroy was the wrong word, dominate would be better

Evan
08-27-2007, 06:20 PM
Please don't take me as splitting hairs with your post by the way. Its just that this is a very interesting matchup.

But I almost think in this case Randy's recent resume is more important than the entire body of work. Fighters need to fight often.

Which is why I am "worried" about many of these PRIDE fighters who are collecting dust.

So with that said, with a tune up fight, Fedor very well may dominate but going in cold right now I give the nod to Randy.

dbreiden83080
08-28-2007, 12:34 AM
Please don't take me as splitting hairs with your post by the way. Its just that this is a very interesting matchup.

But I almost think in this case Randy's recent resume is more important than the entire body of work. Fighters need to fight often.

Which is why I am "worried" about many of these PRIDE fighters who are collecting dust.

So with that said, with a tune up fight, Fedor very well may dominate but going in cold right now I give the nod to Randy.

Fedor is supposedly making dumb and crazy demands that is really holding things up. Randy has a 4 fight deal so he has 2 to go and he will likely be 45 by then. So by the time Fedor gets his act together and is in position for a title shot Randy may have decided he has had enough and walk away for good.

ALVAREZ6
08-28-2007, 01:26 AM
Fedor is a piece of shit

LEONARD
08-29-2007, 09:55 AM
Crocop wants to fight Nog after he beats Kongo (maybe in Dec?). I figure the winner of that fight gets Randy in early 2008...

Arlovski isn't rumor'd or scheduled anywhere though...so who knows if they'll mix him in. He's in the doghouse though...


Fedor is a piece of shit

Based on what exactly? :dizzy

Fedor is the best pfp fighter in the world
-Randy Couture, UFC HW Champion

Fedor is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world aside from bj Penn, those 2 are the best fighters in the world.
-Rampage Jackson, #1 contender for UFC LHW title.

It's FEDOR dude!
-Eric Pele

He is the BEST
-Mark Coleman, former UFC HW Champion and Pride GP Champion

the best in the world, no doubt
-Phil Baroni

Look, I’ve fought many people from around the world, so I’ve seen many strong fighters. But like him, never
-Renato Sobral

Fedor is on top now, it's hard to beat him now
-Pedro Rizzo

NOBODY wants to fight fedor
-Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner

Our great champion, he is the BEST in the world.
-Josh Barnett, former UFC HW Champion and adcc Champion

Fedor has no equals in Sambo or MMA
-Aleksander Mikhailin, 3-time World Judo Champion and Fedor's former training partner

Fedor would be absolutely great in k1
-Ernesto Hoost, 4-time k1 World Champion

Fedor has no weakness! I have seen so many fights, and even the best fighters in the world have a flaw in their game but I have yet to find one in Fedor Emelianenko.
– Bas Rutten, former king of Pancrese and UFC HW Champion FSN

probably the best ever lived….he’s a living legend right now and I don’t think there’s a man on this planet who can beat him; the man is unreal. Pound for pound the best in the world
–Diego Sanchez, hooterandgreenway radio show

Fedor is my favorite
-BJ Penn, former UFC Welterweight Champion and bjj world Champion, NWFS 7/9/06

Fedor is the most incredible fighter you'll ever see
-Frank Trigg

fedor is pound-for-pound best in the world
-Shamada (Pride referee)

Fedor is a machine
-Don Frye

The best fighter to climb into ANY areana is Emelianenko fedor. He is in his own league and you can't compare nobody.
-Kevin randleman, former UFC HW Champion

Fedor is just too dominant, too good at punching people in the face. The way he punches people man he's trying to kill people, with both hands. He's in a whole different class by himself.
-Brandon Vera

He is the best and undefeated... His striking game and his ground game is the best, so that's why he is the best... He is the sh*t
-Mark Hunt, k1 World Champion

Rip-Hamilton32
08-29-2007, 03:21 PM
Crocop wants to fight Nog after he beats Kongo (maybe in Dec?). I figure the winner of that fight gets Randy in early 2008...

Arlovski isn't rumor'd or scheduled anywhere though...so who knows if they'll mix him in. He's in the doghouse though...



Based on what exactly? :dizzy

Fedor is the best pfp fighter in the world
-Randy Couture, UFC HW Champion

Fedor is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world aside from bj Penn, those 2 are the best fighters in the world.
-Rampage Jackson, #1 contender for UFC LHW title.

It's FEDOR dude!
-Eric Pele

He is the BEST
-Mark Coleman, former UFC HW Champion and Pride GP Champion

the best in the world, no doubt
-Phil Baroni

Look, I’ve fought many people from around the world, so I’ve seen many strong fighters. But like him, never
-Renato Sobral

Fedor is on top now, it's hard to beat him now
-Pedro Rizzo

NOBODY wants to fight fedor
-Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner

Our great champion, he is the BEST in the world.
-Josh Barnett, former UFC HW Champion and adcc Champion

Fedor has no equals in Sambo or MMA
-Aleksander Mikhailin, 3-time World Judo Champion and Fedor's former training partner

Fedor would be absolutely great in k1
-Ernesto Hoost, 4-time k1 World Champion

Fedor has no weakness! I have seen so many fights, and even the best fighters in the world have a flaw in their game but I have yet to find one in Fedor Emelianenko.
– Bas Rutten, former king of Pancrese and UFC HW Champion FSN

probably the best ever lived….he’s a living legend right now and I don’t think there’s a man on this planet who can beat him; the man is unreal. Pound for pound the best in the world
–Diego Sanchez, hooterandgreenway radio show

Fedor is my favorite
-BJ Penn, former UFC Welterweight Champion and bjj world Champion, NWFS 7/9/06

Fedor is the most incredible fighter you'll ever see
-Frank Trigg

fedor is pound-for-pound best in the world
-Shamada (Pride referee)

Fedor is a machine
-Don Frye

The best fighter to climb into ANY areana is Emelianenko fedor. He is in his own league and you can't compare nobody.
-Kevin randleman, former UFC HW Champion

Fedor is just too dominant, too good at punching people in the face. The way he punches people man he's trying to kill people, with both hands. He's in a whole different class by himself.
-Brandon Vera

He is the best and undefeated... His striking game and his ground game is the best, so that's why he is the best... He is the sh*t
-Mark Hunt, k1 World Champion

he proves that you don't need to be in super good shape to win lol, imo he would whoop randy

LEONARD
08-29-2007, 03:43 PM
he proves that you don't need to be in super good shape to win lol, imo he would whoop randy

Genetics has a lot to do with what your stomach looks like. You don't have to look like Sherk to be a great fighter...

He's in shape...I've never seen him gas before...

cornbread
08-29-2007, 03:51 PM
Like Leonard said, Fedor is in as good of shape as anybody. His physique proves that "in shape" doesn't necessarily match the traditional view. In shape (in mma) doesn't mean a 6-pack and huge biceps anymore. It's more about having strong core and the cardio and muscle endurance to perform at a high level for a long period of time.

Another example is Shogun. He isn't cut at all yet he performs at a physically elite level that few can match.

dallaskd
08-29-2007, 09:39 PM
Fedor is a piece of shit

Translation: Who is the Fedor guy? I need to sound intellegent...

Google him or something before you say something. I really hope you were being sarcastic.

dallaskd
08-29-2007, 09:42 PM
I guess I should have added draw to the poll....

dallaskd
08-30-2007, 07:58 PM
Like Leonard said, Fedor is in as good of shape as anybody. His physique proves that "in shape" doesn't necessarily match the traditional view. In shape (in mma) doesn't mean a 6-pack and huge biceps anymore. It's more about having strong core and the cardio and muscle endurance to perform at a high level for a long period of time.

Another example is Shogun. He isn't cut at all yet he performs at a physically elite level that few can match.

Also (i.e) Liddell

Evan
09-07-2007, 05:20 PM
Fedor is a piece of shit


Now that is some serious talking out of an :donkey

dallaskd
09-07-2007, 05:42 PM
Crocop wants to fight Nog after he beats Kongo (maybe in Dec?). I figure the winner of that fight gets Randy in early 2008...

Arlovski isn't rumor'd or scheduled anywhere though...so who knows if they'll mix him in. He's in the doghouse though...



Based on what exactly? :dizzy

Fedor is the best pfp fighter in the world
-Randy Couture, UFC HW Champion

Fedor is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world aside from bj Penn, those 2 are the best fighters in the world.
-Rampage Jackson, #1 contender for UFC LHW title.

It's FEDOR dude!
-Eric Pele

He is the BEST
-Mark Coleman, former UFC HW Champion and Pride GP Champion

the best in the world, no doubt
-Phil Baroni

Look, I’ve fought many people from around the world, so I’ve seen many strong fighters. But like him, never
-Renato Sobral

Fedor is on top now, it's hard to beat him now
-Pedro Rizzo

NOBODY wants to fight fedor
-Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner

Our great champion, he is the BEST in the world.
-Josh Barnett, former UFC HW Champion and adcc Champion

Fedor has no equals in Sambo or MMA
-Aleksander Mikhailin, 3-time World Judo Champion and Fedor's former training partner

Fedor would be absolutely great in k1
-Ernesto Hoost, 4-time k1 World Champion

Fedor has no weakness! I have seen so many fights, and even the best fighters in the world have a flaw in their game but I have yet to find one in Fedor Emelianenko.
– Bas Rutten, former king of Pancrese and UFC HW Champion FSN

probably the best ever lived….he’s a living legend right now and I don’t think there’s a man on this planet who can beat him; the man is unreal. Pound for pound the best in the world
–Diego Sanchez, hooterandgreenway radio show

Fedor is my favorite
-BJ Penn, former UFC Welterweight Champion and bjj world Champion, NWFS 7/9/06

Fedor is the most incredible fighter you'll ever see
-Frank Trigg

fedor is pound-for-pound best in the world
-Shamada (Pride referee)

Fedor is a machine
-Don Frye

The best fighter to climb into ANY areana is Emelianenko fedor. He is in his own league and you can't compare nobody.
-Kevin randleman, former UFC HW Champion

Fedor is just too dominant, too good at punching people in the face. The way he punches people man he's trying to kill people, with both hands. He's in a whole different class by himself.
-Brandon Vera

He is the best and undefeated... His striking game and his ground game is the best, so that's why he is the best... He is the sh*t
-Mark Hunt, k1 World Champion

I think he was being sarcastic. That or just plain ignorant

dallaskd
09-08-2007, 11:59 PM
Leonard still waiting on his answer? :lol

dallaskd
09-09-2007, 12:00 AM
Couture's last Fights I'd Like to see...

Arlovski
Nog
Cro Cop
Fedor....
And I'd love to see him finish his career with payback against Josh Barnett

Wow take CC off. New list...

Nog
Josh Barnett
Then retire with Fedor.

Evan
09-09-2007, 12:05 AM
I dunno, if CC has lost his heart to fight Fedor exploding through him might be a good way to bring him in.

Assuming he is signed soon

dallaskd
09-09-2007, 12:07 AM
They talked about Fedor all night. It's one of the first time ive ever heard him mentioned at a UFC event.

dallaskd
09-09-2007, 12:39 AM
**times**