Real or Not? You decide...

[Nbadan]

Link 1:

UFO (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4999449024522921396&total=100&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=t100_all&plindex=13)

Link 2:

Another UFO Sighting (http://youtube.com/watch?v=BUo3D6XTjsA)

:hat

[BacktoBasics]

Not real. The palm tree outline and leaf outline have appeared in duplicate in multiple videos

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7149/fakepv2.jpg

these clips have been released by the same name on other hosting sites as well and have been rumored to be viral marketing for Overnight aka Cloverfield aka 1-18-08.

Also has the hazy, glossy...glassy CGI fingerprint we know so well.

[Clutch20]

I've always wondered about these, the craft looks too Airforce or manufactured by Mattel.......
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/roundspiky.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/roundspiky2.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/roundspiky3.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/roundspiky4.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/roundspikydescending5.jpg

[BacktoBasics]

Those pictures have been debunked as well. They appeared in mirror form a few times proving that they were manipulated pictures. I felt it was garbage well before all of that because of the "Isaac" guy sharing all this stuff. His approach to the whole thing was absurd.

[Clutch20]

Thanks!
d-e-l-e-t-e button coming right up............

[Clutch20]

These maybe should go into the other supernatural thread that was here a couple of weeks ago........they can be moved if the mods gods wanna.....

I took these shots with my palm pilot some years back.
It was a cold morning, I sat in my car to start it and then slowly came to realize that there was a form outlined on my window consisting of frost-like crystals.

No one except my wife and I were at the house, no one lives within a half a mile either side of me, and I've always wondered why those images formed.

Any helpful hints or ideas?
Would love the humor, too!
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/icecrystals41.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/icecrystals42.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/icecrystals43.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/icecrystals4.jpg

[BacktoBasics]

Looks like the ice formed or is melting within the small scratches of the glass. Cool pics nontheless.

[Clutch20]

Looks like nature IS the best artist around

[The sone]

looks like the geico cavemen were out late that night...

[Clutch20]

Geico cavemen is a funny thought.....
....."an Existential Meltdown!" (of the ice crystals, ha!)

[BigBeezie]

Based on the thread title, I thought this would involve boobs. Silly me...

[T Park]

:lol

Thats what I first thought.

[Fillmoe_]

i was hoping to see some titties when i seen the title of this thread and opened it

[Clutch20]

Real? Or not.........:spin
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q266/andygamezusa/images.jpg

[Twisted_Dawg]

i was hoping to see some titties when i seen the title of this thread and opened it

....True that!

[BacktoBasics]

Final explaination

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/newmedia/la-et-ufo22aug22,0,2266445.story?page=1

[DarkReign]

There was a special on PBS about UFOs and such.

I was watching it with my wife and and a friend. There was one piece of footage that I have yet to find on the internet (not even the PBS website) that stunned us into silence.

The hair stood on the back of my neck. I will admit my interest in the subject and that the chances of humans being alone in the universe was less than us not being alone, but I was always skeptical of alien visitation to Earth.

This piece of footage changed that. Say what you want, but I just cant find the damn footage. It was so obviously something not of this world and so damn profound in its size...and it was filmed by multiple people from multiple angles all over the (American city I cant remember).

The best shot of the "craft" was from a citizen who lived on the side of very small mountain, so he was relatively high in comparison to the city in the valley. The view from his perspective was straight out, over to another adjoining small mountain. Theres a very large silouette in the sky, but very low to the ground on which he stood, not the city.

Suddenly, individual lights start turning from top to bottom and from "front" to "back" (if one could reasonably assume you know what the front and back of a UFO looks like). The lights are nothing special, but what they do is illuminate the underlying "craft" and give proper estimatable metrics to its size.

The thing was fucking HUGE. Not aircraft big, not aircraft carrier big, like MILES big. And with every light that turned on (about 7 or 8 in total) it revealed more and more of its size to any naked eye watching.

With that in mind, it was the typical UFO....it was absolutely standing still (they say about less than a mile off the ground) and made absolutely zero noise. The 911 calls from that day in that city were acousted by the FBI, but the employees of the local 911 center were interviewed for this special. They said the sheer volume of calls coming from the populace swamped the switchboard. Them and their coworkers were so entranced by the descriptions, and the volume of similar calls, they called their friends/relatives/etc who lived in the area to ask them to look to the sky to the (whatever direction, lets say northwest).

They confirmed what hundreds, if not thousands were calling about. They were taping every call, as is standard and wondering about the aftermath of such a widespread event. Some time later that evening, in entered the FBI (or people claiming to be, whatever) and were told to go home. They werent harassed or threatened or otherwise persecuted in anyway shape or form (they actually noted how nice the person in charge was, but that he definately wanted them to go...now).

Ever since I seen that, I still search every now and then looking for that particular video. I have yet to find it and for the life of me, cant remember the name of the damn program on PBS.

I have DVR, so I was rewinding, then playing, rewinding, then playing....did that for about 10 mins. I am no expert and have never claimed to be, but for every thousand crap UFO sighting like the fake above in this thread, there might be one like the one I described. Absolutely mesmerizing.

The SIZE...man, the SIZE alone tells you it isnt of this world. Regardless of its ability to hover in absolute silence. It was the size of it. Nothing of this earth has left the ground of that size with only the aid of jet propulsion.

[BacktoBasics]

You must find that video. I have to see it dammit.

[thispego]

i know the video you're talking about. pretty crazy stuff, i'll see if i can find it too

[thispego]

Is this what you're talking about? (http://www.ufocasebook.com/phoenixlights.html)

[DarkReign]

Is this what you're talking about? (http://www.ufocasebook.com/phoenixlights.html)

THATS FUCKING IT!

Youre amazing! Why, oh why, can I not find what I am looking for when someone takes 5 mins (or less) and finds it no prob.

Nice!

[DarkReign]

Awwww, the video link is broken! No biggie, at least I know what it is called now.

[thispego]

THATS FUCKING IT!

Youre amazing! Why, oh why, can I not find what I am looking for when someone takes 5 mins (or less) and finds it no prob.

Nice!
hahaha well i just remember it being in Arizona and you're description jogged my memory. I can't get the vid to work either! WTF

[DarkReign]

The video resolution on the PBS special was either enhanced or YouTube didnt translate the file as well, but here it is....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Y5RjhOThM

[DarkReign]

Better video, much more dramatic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhAQrR8Jhkk

[Marklar MM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Y5RjhOThM

[DarkReign]

Man, these videos are cut up.

The PBS video is one continuous shot, it was about 2-3 mins long without all the needless "zooming in" on the lights themselves (what is with that? The lights are not important, its what they illuminate that is).

These do not accurately represent the profound revealing of the craft. IIRC, it starts as 3 lights, 2 in "front" and 1 in "back". Slowly, but methodically, the "front" starts to light up, one by one, slowly but surely. and the lights just get longer and longer in a spatial sense. The naked eye can see that the individual lights are of some significant distance from each other (meaning, the lights closer to you are bigger and more luminescent than the lights on the farther side of the "craft") truly revealing the size of the "craft".

I am glad to know that the Air Force, in all its wisdom, pulled a "weather balloon" explanation with some warthog flares to explain this. They either take everyone as comlpete morons or they have proven that we are, in fact, complete morons.

[DarkReign]

I was going to post this site www.thephoenixlights.net , but quickly realized its some twit with a money-making agenda as an eyewitness.

I never believe what these people say, or the "dramatic re-creations" their producers parade as evidence.

If this were truly a scientific endeavor, they would fore go the drama and let the evidence speak for itself and implore the viewer to come to their own conclusions as it is most likely scientifically impossible to confirm or deny anything without some hard evidence.

[Sportcamper]

Yea...UFO’s are fake...Big Foot is just a story...
And HOT women marry ugly old guys for L.O.V.E. (not their money)...

http://higginsforpresident.net/gallery/view/random/bigfoot.jpg

[BacktoBasics]

Widely debunked as flares.

and here is a dude poorly debunking the flare idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGoHuipecYE

Also I have yet to see a video that clearly shows any craft at all. Still a mystery however. Even if the USAF has officially called it flares. I want to see a craft dammit.

[DarkReign]

That news broadcast was terrible, as was that dude talking over it like he had any idea what he was talking about.

They were not flares. And certainly not flares 130 miles away, witnessed by thousands of people as "overhead" and "hovering". Unless the USAF is in the business of scrambling military aircraft into the air to chase down and identify flares in the night sky, I'd say its typical.

This proceeding statement is not what I believe, its a logic hypothetical....

If you were a government, tasked with all the things a government must provide (national security being A#1), and you had UFOs being witnessed on a near constant basis nation wide (UFOs as the meaning intends, as in Unidentified Flying Objects, not aliens) and had no explanation for how these objects enter and exit your national airspace undetected, how would explain these things to the masses?

a) Tell them you dont know and have no explanation (worse than lying)
b) Tell them you do know, but wont tell them (even worse than A)
c) Them you do know, and provide an explanation (obvious)

[BacktoBasics]

I find it all interesting and I don't 100% believe the flares bit but I still haven't seen an actual craft and some of the witnesses say it was individual lights vs. 1 large craft. I wish I was there to see it.