Udoka >mercer>hedo>smith>barry>mike

[ducks]

book it :clap :clap :clap

I also think their is a mutal understanding if he plays well he will be reward like bowen next year :) :smokin

[Kori Ellis]

:lol

People are lovin' Udoka a little bit too much.

[BronxCowboy]

:lol

People are lovin' Udoka a little bit too much.

Happens with almost every free agent signing, doesn't it?

[Kori Ellis]

Happens with almost every free agent signing, doesn't it?

Yes, but I just find this one more funny for some reason. I guess because in the beginning of the summer, many people didn't know who he was. Now he's the second coming :lol

[ese]

whottt is going to make make him into the biggest FA acquisition since Timmy resigned in 2000

[ducks]

mercer and smith did nothing
smith biggest thing did was went over to tp and told him use his legs
then tp started making them and his face light up
hedo atleast rebounded

mike and barry I give you

I think he has ever potential being better then any of those players

mike and barry were past their primes before they got to the spurs

[BacktoBasics]

Same crap with White, Butler, Charles Smith, JR Smith and so forth. He'll do little and I guess thats enough.

[Kori Ellis]

mercer and smith did nothing
smith biggest thing did was went over to tp and told him use his legs
then tp started making them and his face light up
hedo atleast rebounded

mike and barry I give you

I think he has ever potential being better then any of those players

mike and barry were past their primes before they got to the spurs

Finley got here when he was 32. Udoka is 30. Not really that much different age-wise but Finley had a lot of mileage.

I'm assured he'll be a better defender than Barry and Finley but I don't expect him to be a guy who averages 10-12 ppg.

[BronxCowboy]

He could be a nice addition. We'll see. After all, I hardly knew who Bruce Bowen was before the Spurs signed him, and I certainly didn't expect him to be the replacement for Sean Elliott. But here we are, and Bruce has been one of the key players in 3 championship runs. That said, even if Ime did have all the skills of Bruce ( :lol ), he's still shorter.

[ploto]

How on earth was Mercer better than Hedo- Mercer did not play and got cut before the end of the season.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Yes, but I just find this one more funny for some reason. I guess because in the beginning of the summer, many people didn't know who he was. Now he's the second coming :lol
I recall ElliottFan and timvp as the only ones who were interested in Udoka from the beginning of the offseason.

[wildbill2u]

:lol

People are lovin' Udoka a little bit too much.
No kidding. It's like they believe he will be the second coming of Bowen--although only 6/5".

I guess that wingspan thingamajig will have to come on strong.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

book it :clap :clap :clap

I also think their is a mutal understanding if he plays well he will be reward like bowen next year :) :smokin




actually Udoka>>>>MJ




:rolleyes

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I recall ElliottFan and timvp as the only ones who were interested in Udoka from the beginning of the offseason.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1825708&postcount=78

timvp is good. :smokin

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1348080&postcount=9

I'm really good. :smokin

[AFBlue]

:lol

People are lovin' Udoka a little bit too much.

THANK YOU! :tu

This guy could turn out to be a very good role player on this team, but damn...

I mean, c'mon! This dude may have shot over 40% last year....but it was a career first, he's 30 years old, and he's got to learn a new system.

I am hopeful that this guy turns into a Raja Bell or Bruce Bowen-type of player, but there's also a SIGNIFICANT possibility that last year was a fluke year when he got big minutes on a bad club....a possibility that you saw the best of Ime last year.

I'm not rooting for this kid to fail, just trying to get some of you to come back to reality.

[Darkwaters]

Yes, but I just find this one more funny for some reason. I guess because in the beginning of the summer, many people didn't know who he was. Now he's the second coming :lol

I'm sure Portland was thinking much the same thing last year when he not only signed a contract but also was a starter. But that ended up working out pretty well for them, didn't it? :hungry:

[urunobili]

:lol

People are lovin' Udoka a little bit too much.

i agree.. too much love so far...
:drunk

[Darkwaters]

THANK YOU! :tu

This guy could turn out to be a very good role player on this team, but damn...

I mean, c'mon! This dude may have shot over 40% last year....but it was a career first, he's 30 years old, and he's got to learn a new system.

I am hopeful that this guy turns into a Raja Bell or Bruce Bowen-type of player, but there's also a SIGNIFICANT possibility that last year was a fluke year when he got big minutes on a bad club....a possibility that you saw the best of Ime last year.

I'm not rooting for this kid to fail, just trying to get some of you to come back to reality.

Well, in an offseason where the biggest positive event was the resigning of the "Ugliest productive player" that Pop has ever seen (not to mention an off-season shrouded in upsets) we really needed something to get excited about. Besides, Udoka is very low risk. He comes at a positions of need and with an ideal skill-set. But if he doesn't pan out then hes making far less than even Beno Udrih...and how long has the coaching staff endured him? Udoka was an ideal signing for a team with a salary crunch. And regardless of whether or not his shooting or defense was a fluke, his obvious high work ethic indicates he could hit a slump and still contribute in some form or another.

[Mr. Body]

Udoka gives the bench a great deal of utility. Barry and Finley mostly duplicated all their important skills, but Ime brings a different skill set. Good to see.

[oligarchy]

Well, in an offseason where the biggest positive event was the resigning of the "Ugliest productive player" that Pop has ever seen (not to mention an off-season shrouded in upsets) we really needed something to get excited about. Besides, Udoka is very low risk. He comes at a positions of need and with an ideal skill-set. But if he doesn't pan out then hes making far less than even Beno Udrih...and how long has the coaching staff endured him? Udoka was an ideal signing for a team with a salary crunch. And regardless of whether or not his shooting or defense was a fluke, his obvious high work ethic indicates he could hit a slump and still contribute in some form or another.

Excellent take. He's no savior -- like James White :rolleyes -- but for the money spent it looks like a good deal.

[AFBlue]

Well, in an offseason where the biggest positive event was the resigning of the "Ugliest productive player" that Pop has ever seen (not to mention an off-season shrouded in upsets) we really needed something to get excited about. Besides, Udoka is very low risk. He comes at a positions of need and with an ideal skill-set. But if he doesn't pan out then hes making far less than even Beno Udrih...and how long has the coaching staff endured him? Udoka was an ideal signing for a team with a salary crunch. And regardless of whether or not his shooting or defense was a fluke, his obvious high work ethic indicates he could hit a slump and still contribute in some form or another.

Agree that he is a good acquisition. Low-risk and excellent value.

But the originator of this thread and all those drinking the Udoka kool-aid are talking about his ability and how he's better than most every other role player of Spurs' past and present.

I'm just saying the hype on this guy based on his production...not his potential + last year's production + relative value....is rediculous.

BTW, I understand the slow summer, which is why I'm trying to contain the Udoka hype...which sounds funny to even say.

[ducks]

Udoka gives the bench a great deal of utility. Barry and Finley mostly duplicated all their important skills, but Ime brings a different skill set. Good to see.
I agree

another thing he does is he helps the spurs out against dallas

any teams that have 2 good scores udoka can guard one and bowen the other one

if udoka has duncan behind him how much better will he be




udoka also gives spurs a big plus if bowen gets hurt or in foul trouble

[ducks]

actually Udoka>>>>MJ




:rolleyes
if you want to think so

[AFBlue]

Udoka gives the bench a great deal of utility. Barry and Finley mostly duplicated all their important skills, but Ime brings a different skill set. Good to see.

Ime's "different skill set" is defense. He's not a slasher or a distributor. He's a spot-up shooter on offense, so how does that make him different from Barry & Fin.

Again, I'll give you that he seems to be a better defender...but I wouldn't consider that a "set" of skills.

[ducks]

he also makes barry more tradable to get someone else like better backup point

[Bruno]

I don't have high expectations for Udoka.

However, last time I've checked, Spurs have won the last championship quite easily.
Udoka isn't a great player but he could provide some solid defense, hustle, grab some rebounds and shoot some 3's. Udoka's slight impact will maybe be the thing that will allow Spurs to repeat.

Udoka is far from being a savior but Spurs don't need one. Spurs need some minor tweaking and Udoka seems to be a good one.

[BronxCowboy]

Watch. 16 months from now, if he is still with the team, he will have been ok, but not a hall-of-famer, so some of the same people that are his biggest new fans now will be ready to run him out of town on a fencepost.

[ducks]

I do not expect him to put up impressive stats
I expect something along the lines of bowen and close to his d

[AFBlue]

I do not expect him to put up impressive stats
I expect something along the lines of bowen and close to his d

Bowen was the most important player to this team outside the big 3....

To expect Udoka to be Bowen with slightly less D is STILL a stretch.

[jaespur21]

Yes, but I just find this one more funny for some reason. I guess because in the beginning of the summer, many people didn't know who he was. Now he's the second coming :lol

not me but i'm lovin it. i used the Blazers on2k7 the game and udoko always played well 4 me. plus i saw the games the spurs played against the blazers.

heres to udoka playin well :drunk

[The Great Fantastic]

Udoka will impress you....that is if you don't expect the world of him. He is not a guy to put on your fantasy team even if he was starting. You won't see the impact this guy has on the stat sheet. But role players, like Udoka, are what separates San Antonio from other good or great teams. Udoka is a spectacular signing for the price.

Just don't jump on his nuts when he has a big game and hits clutch threes and expect it from him. It won't happen every night, but it will happen.

[jaespur21]

i agree.. too much love so far...
:drunk

my cousin shannon is a Portland native and she really liked Udoka. says that he will be missed up there

thats a good way too look @ it TGFantastic, i agree

[T Park]

A guy who can play great defense, shoot the three, and is a good guy.

Pardon us for being excited.

[Darkwaters]

I think that Udoka was one of the best signings of the off-season by any team. Why? Value and need. Heres why:

Value: In the offseason that saw Rashard Lewis warrant a max contract, coupled by Toronto's overpaying for one-dimensional shooter Jason Kapono, the signing of Ime Udoka seems a downright steal. For 1M a year the Spurs remain flexible under the cap while also protecting themselves against the "bust-factor" if Udoka does not pan out (making him quite low risk, high reward).

Need: With Bruce Bowen, Brent Barry and Michael Finley coming off the books next season (and Ginobili turning 29), and considering the difficulty in learning the Spurs system (generally requiring a year to become functional in it) it seemed that the Spurs absolutely had to sign another wing player...if only to shelf them for a year. With the failure of the James White project, that became very necessary. Ime Udoka filled that need and in an ideal way. While James White seemed promising, he was not an ideal fit. Udoka offers everything that the Spurs staff tends to like: veteran player with poise, 3 point shooter, defensive specialist with an enduring work ethic and workman's attitude.

My expectations: My expectations for next season are that Udoka assume the primary back-up SF position and provide quality defense (and shooting) when Bowen is off the floor. He can provide defensive teeth on the wing for the Spurs reserves and learn under Bowen. If he could average 5-6 PPG and 3 RPG in about 25MPG I would be happy with his statline. But, like Bowen, the stats are simply a bonus. It is his defense (the unrecorded stats) that I'm interested in. And if he has scoreless nights that showcased strong defensive effort, I will have no issue with him. Next year I simply want him to learn the system and provide his defensive effort to the second unit. Anything further is gravy.

[Obstructed_View]

Of the Blazers starters that some around here have wanted, I'm glad the Spurs got Udoka...

[barbacoataco]

I live in Portland now and watched Udoka play a lot last year, on TV and in person. He defended Lebron very well when the Cavs came to town. For 1-2 million a year he is a complete steal.

[ducks]

I live in Portland now and watched Udoka play a lot last year, on TV and in person. He defended Lebron very well when the Cavs came to town. For 1-2 million a year he is a complete steal.
:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

[SenorSpur]

I live in Portland now and watched Udoka play a lot last year, on TV and in person. He defended Lebron very well when the Cavs came to town. For 1-2 million a year he is a complete steal.

I distinctly remember one particular road game the Spurs played in Portland during this past season. Udoka had a pretty good game. I remember him contributing several buckets, various hustle plays, a steal or two, rebounding and some tenacious defense. In fact, it was his play, during one second quarter sequence, that indirectly led to oe particular timeout.

Now I don't want to drum up a bunch of hype because the Blazers did lose the game and this was just one isolated game during the course of the season, but Udoka's play was impressive. I wondered at the time who the hell this guy was.

Personally, I like his skill set and am glad he's on our team.

[smeagol]

Hedo > Barry?

You're delusional

[Clutch20]

Draw a few plays up for him to use in the playoffs like Pop did for Vaughn, then eveyone not a Spurs fan with a mike will use Walton-like praises to describe his game and the savvy of the Spurs FO . :)

[lotr1trekkie]

After Beno's idiotic comments in the Slovenian Post I think it's only a matter of time. Barry's contract is hard to move and he was a starter for half the season. Great complement to Findley. Ime will take some pressure of both Manu and Bruce even for 12 minutes/game. Jezz, the Lakers gave 14 mill to Fisher. Imagine if our FO made that move.

[SequSpur]

ducks,

you're a fucking idiot. Do you know that? you continue to amaze me on how you can top stupid every fucking day.

mike finley is the best player ever in the history of the nba compared to the scrub in udoka.

brent barry is the logo compared to udoka...

go wack yourself and ask your friend to slap the tbag in your face...

you're stupid.

[Fast Dunk]

ducks,

you're a fucking idiot. Do you know that? you continue to amaze me on how you can top stupid every fucking day.

mike finley is the best player ever in the history of the nba compared to the scrub in udoka.

brent barry is the logo compared to udoka...

go wack yourself and ask your friend to slap the tbag in your face...

you're stupid.
He's just stupid, that's all...

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[ducks]

ducks,

you're a fucking idiot. Do you know that? you continue to amaze me on how you can top stupid every fucking day.

mike finley is the best player ever in the history of the nba compared to the scrub in udoka.

brent barry is the logo compared to udoka...

go wack yourself and ask your friend to slap the tbag in your face...

you're stupid.


I guess since you are so short you have to act tough on the internet
why do you know just try to get along with each other and call a truce
and quite the name calling :nope

[BronxCowboy]

This message is hidden because SequSpur is on your ignore list.
Try it sometime, ducks. It works on all the trolls. :)

[smeagol]

ducks,

you're a fucking idiot. Do you know that? you continue to amaze me on how you can top stupid every fucking day.

mike finley is the best player ever in the history of the nba compared to the scrub in udoka.

brent barry is the logo compared to udoka...

go wack yourself and ask your friend to slap the tbag in your face...

you're stupid.
You are not so smart yourself, junior.