Beyond "My Pet Goat"

[Nbadan]

Let's throw some fuel on the 911 fire again for Mouse....


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/13/us/13rove04.jpg
The photo, as you can tell from the clock and the TV screen, was taken at 9:25 am on the morning of 9/11/2001 at Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida.

Beyond "My Pet Goat": Karl Rove's Role on 9/11
Posted by Michael Shaw at 12:00 PM on August 15, 2007.
Michael Shaw: A photo in a New York Times "Goodbye Karl" slideshow sheds new light on Bush and Rove's behavior that fateful day.


Given the detailed timelines available from that morning, we know well how George Bush spent 10 very long minutes reading a story to a group of second graders. He entered the classroom room at 9:03, and he was informed at 9:06 by Andy Card that a second plane had crashed into the World Trade Towers, but he didn't finish up with the kids until 9:16.

What is much less familiar, however, is how Bush spent the next fifteen or twenty minutes.........According to his original pre-"attack on America" schedule, Bush was slated to give a speech to the Booker Elementary student body at approximately 9:30. So, thirty-nine minutes after the first crash (which Bush was aware of by approximately 8:55); and nineteen minutes after hearing about the second crash; and with the fate of America supposedly hanging in the balance, what do you suppose Bush had in front of him and was working on?

Yep, it's the speech he ended up writing, then delivering, four minutes later to 200 elementary school students, along with some teachers and a handful of reporters.

If Bush's actions confirm his incompetent, pre-formulated, performance-by-rote, what, in addition, might the craft and composition of the photo indicate? In this moment of extreme crisis; 13 minutes before Flight 77 would slam into the Pentagon; with the atmosphere rife with speculation that numerous highjacks were in progress, can anybody say there wasn't still time for posing?

Alertnet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/59848/#more)

[Bunz]

This president lives for photo ops: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

[Wild Cobra]

This thread has absolutely no relavance. Notice the phone the president is using. Just walking to the motorcade and other activiities moving him would hamper things more than help. Notice the phone? A bit different than most, wouldn't you say?

link:

STU III (Secure Telephone and KSD-64) (http://www.jproc.ca/crypto/stuiii.html)

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/stu_sectel_1500.jpg

Now I have regularly used phones like that, and you can call anyone, anywhere. He had full access with a secure line to anyone he needed to talk to.

Two more points. How often have you seen school clocks to be set correctly?

The phone is not necessarily the exact phone, but it is of the same series.

[Oh, Gee!!]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/13/us/13rove04.jpg


I'll have 2 large pepperoni, 1 canadian bacon, and extra anchovies

[clambake]

I'll have 2 large pepperoni, 1 canadian bacon, and extra anchovies. Also, could I get 1 order of crib notes for "My Pet Goat"?

[Oh, Gee!!]

Karl Rove: Uhh....Mr. President, you're calling your own cell phone.

[ggoose25]

Karl Rove: Uhh....Mr. President, you're calling your own cell phone.
:lmao

[xrayzebra]

I'll have 2 large pepperoni, 1 canadian bacon, and extra anchovies

You will have what he gives you and shut up.......
:oink

[Nbadan]

Forget the frickin phone..they knew we were under attack and he still did a photo op.......geezzz.........



http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/13/us/13rove04.jpg
Have they faxed over the terms for surrender?

[ChumpDumper]

It's been two days and I still don't see a point to this thread.

[sabar]

I'll have 2 large pepperoni, 1 canadian bacon, and extra anchovieshttp://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

[Wild Cobra]

It's been two days and I still don't see a point to this thread.
I think they were trying to dump on the president for not panicking and going to the Whitehouse. I stopped their propaganda by showing the STU series phone was all that was needed. He can talk securely to any part of the military, Whitehouse, Pentagon, etc.

All they could do then was order pizza.

There was no point to the thread except to harm the presidency. I think I stopped that.

Simple truth. The president can exercise presidential powers just about anywhere.

[Bunz]

It looks like that guy in between Rove and Bush is ordering the grandma to Guantanamo already

[Wild Cobra]

It looks like that guy in between Rove and Bush is ordering the grandma to Guantanamo already
See, now that I busted the slander of the article, nobody can be serious now.

[xrayzebra]

I think they were trying to dump on the president for not panicking and going to the Whitehouse.

Simple truth. The president can exercise presidential powers just about anywhere.

He can. He carries a complete communications set-up with
him, actually they normally get there ahead of time and
set up all his communications. AF One is completely
set up to communicate with anyone anywhere at anytime.

He is never out of contact. Especially now with the
satellite communications capability and secure telephones
like the one he is speaking on.

[Ignignokt]

Nbadan thinks the prez should of gone to his underground base with the huge computers and world wide surveillance modules that have all the shiny buttons, and feature a proton transmitter.

There would have been the W car and the Dubya-wing with chopper for sidekick Dick Cheney.

[Spurminator]

It's been two days and I still don't see a point to this thread.


Glad I'm not the only one. What does this have to do with Mouse?

[Wild Cobra]

Just shows you how many lemmings are citizens of this nation, doesn't it.

I also like to call them [Michael] Moore-ons.

[ChumpDumper]

There's no doubt that Bush was a little shaky in the initial moments of the attack, but I can hardly fault him for being on the phone -- any phone -- and having his picture taken by a guy whose job it is to follow him around and take pictures.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I think they were trying to dump on the president for not panicking and going to the Whitehouse. I stopped their propaganda by showing the STU series phone was all that was needed. He can talk securely to any part of the military, Whitehouse, Pentagon, etc.

All they could do then was order pizza.

There was no point to the thread except to harm the presidency. I think I stopped that.

Simple truth. The president can exercise presidential powers just about anywhere.


who is the "they" that was trying to "harm the presidency," which you so boldly saved from destruction btw, that you speak of? As far as I can tell one person created this thread; the rest of us just made it funnier.

Talk about delusions of grandeur Jack Bauer.

[ChumpDumper]

There was no point to the thread except to harm the presidency.Another nugget to save for the Hillary Clinton years.

[Nbadan]

Those who have cornered themselves into the 911 faith movement really have to be concerned here...on the one hand, Dubya was on the phone making sure the jets were in the air (not), and on the other, Dubya forgot he was the only person who could give the order to shoot down civilian aircraft before he started readin My Pet Goat (must have been a hell of a book!).........

[Whottt's Dealer]

well he is one of the most well read presidents according to rove

[ChumpDumper]

Those who have cornered themselves into the 911 faith movement really have to be concerned here...on the one hand, Dubya was on the phone making sure the jets were in the air (not), and on the other, Dubya forgot he was the only person who could give the order to shoot down civilian aircraft before he started readin My Pet Goat (must have been a hell of a book!).........It is highly doubtful they reached that level of decision making 20 minutes into the event.

[E20]

If we only had a time machine.............

[Nbadan]

More 911 related news...


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/18/nyregion/19fire.3372.jpg
Fire, hollowed out floors, but no collapse


NEW YORK - A seven-alarm fire ripped through an abandoned skyscraper next to ground zero in Lower Manhattan Saturday, killing two firefighters who were responding to the blaze.

Officers at the scene were preventing nearby residents from returning to their homes, telling them that authorities were concerned the former Deutsche Bank office building, vacant since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks turned it into a toxic nightmare, could fall. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said that fear turned out to be unfounded.

MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20338507)

Why was Bloomberg so sure? The fire wasn't hot enough........

[Nbadan]

http://www.wnbc.com/2007/0818/13923606_240X180.jpg
Do you remember flames like this on 911?



Yeah, neither do I..........

[ChumpDumper]

I have a question for you.