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td4mvp3
08-17-2007, 05:26 PM
heard on the randy galloway show in ft worth that the guy's prepared to name 20 other refs who bet, though the offenses may not be indictable or illegal. anybody know anything about it?

jn77
08-17-2007, 05:29 PM
Suns fans will contend that every ref named reffed key suns games over the last ten years and demand an asterick after every championship in the last decade. Phoenix lawyers will sue for visitation rights to 2007 Larry O Brien Trophy.

td4mvp3
08-17-2007, 05:31 PM
Suns fans will contend that every ref named reffed key suns games over the last ten years and demand an asterick after every championship in the last decade. Phoenix lawyers will sue for visitation rights to 2007 Larry O Brien Trophy.
:lol

mavs>spurs2
08-17-2007, 05:43 PM
Suns fans will contend that every ref named reffed key suns games over the last ten years and demand an asterick after every championship in the last decade. Phoenix lawyers will sue for visitation rights to 2007 Larry O Brien Trophy.

:lmao this forum is on a roll today

remingtonbo2001
08-17-2007, 06:38 PM
:lmao this forum is on a roll today

We're always on roll. :smokin

UV Ray
08-17-2007, 06:44 PM
Fox News now confirming this story. Fox saying if true, NBA "in deep, deep trouble". Especially since Stern said it was an isolated incident.

mardigan
08-17-2007, 06:46 PM
Donaghy to share info about other refs with feds
ESPN.com news services

Updated: August 17, 2007, 7:14 PM ET



Former NBA official Tim Donaghy will reportedly give federal prosecutors information that will implicate other referees in some forms of gambling activity as part of his cooperation with government officials.

The offenses might not include any criminal activity, but could draw the ire of NBA commissioner David Stern, who has insisted the Donaghy situation was that of a "rogue, isolated criminal."

A report on 1050 ESPN Radio in New York said Donaghy will give prosecutors as many as 20 names of other NBA officials and will detail their involvement in some form of gambling activity. The specifics of the gambling allegations are reportedly believed to include betting in casinos.

"As far as we know, the misconduct was isolated to one individual, and we'll stand by that until proven otherwise," National Basketball Referees Association director Lamell McMorris told ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan. "We'll review whatever information Tim Donaghy alleges, but as far as we're concerned, the only person whose conduct has been proven wrong is Tim Donaghy. We're dealing with truth, not hearsay, and the truth is that the only person who has pleaded guilty to any kind of wrongdoing is Tim Donaghy."

NBA spokesman Brian McIntyre said the league had received no information regarding the possibility of other officials being investigated.

The NBA's collective bargaining agreement with the officials bans gambling by referees, although there is one exception -- officials are allowed to go to the racetrack and bet on horses during the offseason.

Donaghy, who pleaded guilty on Thursday and was released on $250,000 bond, faces a maximum of 25 years in prison when he is sentenced Nov. 9 for conspiracy to engage in wire fraud and transmitting betting information through interstate commerce. He also must pay a $500,000 fine and at least $30,000 in restitution to the government.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2979605

Buddy Holly
08-17-2007, 06:49 PM
well...

Kori Ellis
08-17-2007, 06:50 PM
I believe that he's just talking about refs who gambled in casinos (not on sports) on their own time (which is still against NBA rules). Not actually other refs who bet on NBA basketball.

But we'll see.

Switchman
08-17-2007, 07:12 PM
I believe that he's just talking about refs who gambled in casinos (not on sports) on their own time (which is still against NBA rules). Not actually other refs who bet on NBA basketball.

But we'll see.

Yep. It has to be this.

If they were doing what Tim D. did. NBA is fucked :cry

E20
08-17-2007, 07:23 PM
The NBA has over 20 refs? LMAO

Obstructed_View
08-17-2007, 07:23 PM
He'll probably be willing to name every ref that cheated on his wife if it will save him some prison time.

So they had the all-star game in Vegas, and the refs weren't allowed to play the slot machines? Ridiculous.

td4mvp3
08-17-2007, 08:52 PM
I believe that he's just talking about refs who gambled in casinos (not on sports) on their own time (which is still against NBA rules). Not actually other refs who bet on NBA basketball.

But we'll see.
yeah, the way it's being couched so far doesn't make it seem like anything else but this guy ratting out refs who were likely just having a good time betting on nfl or something and not involved with any kind of grand scheme. if that had been the case, now that i think about it, i doubt this stuff comes to light so early for fear of tipping their hand, you know?

Obstructed_View
08-17-2007, 09:12 PM
If there'd been any indication of that whatsoever, the feds would probably have given that info to David Stern before he made his declaration. That a guy who bet on basketball games that he reffed would attempt to sell out his friends to save his own ass is hardly surprising, and probably won't bear fruit.

LakerLanny
08-17-2007, 09:14 PM
But wait, wait, I thought David Stern told us it was just "one rogue criminal"

You would have to be blind or a complete *purs honk to not be able to tell mulitple officials have been outright fixing games for many years. And the league is involved at a much higher level, this is the NBA's Watergate.

By the way, told ya so. :toast

Slinkyman
08-17-2007, 09:25 PM
But wait, wait, I thought David Stern told us it was just "one rogue criminal"

You would have to be blind or a complete *purs honk to not be able to tell mulitple officials have been outright fixing games for many years. And the league is involved at a much higher level, this is the NBA's Watergate.

By the way, told ya so. :toast

I actually thought the nba stopped fixing games in 2003, but you're right from 2000 to 2002 the nba was fucking rigged.

Obstructed_View
08-17-2007, 09:44 PM
But wait, wait, I thought David Stern told us it was just "one rogue criminal"

You would have to be blind or a complete *purs honk to not be able to tell mulitple officials have been outright fixing games for many years. And the league is involved at a much higher level, this is the NBA's Watergate.

By the way, told ya so. :toast
It's amazing that you can type, but you somehow have no reading ability whatsoever. You certainly put the "idiot" in "idiot savant". :rolleyes

dg7md
08-17-2007, 10:31 PM
If so, the NBA is screwed forever. No joke.

barbacoataco
08-17-2007, 10:46 PM
If there were 20 other refs doing what Donaghy did, I will start to think that all pro and NCAA sports is being controlled, or influenced, by gambling interests. Actually I have thought that from time to time in the past. ( usually when my team is losing)

tlongII
08-17-2007, 11:16 PM
I've always known that the league fixes games in the Lakers favor. Hopefully the truth will come out.

Phil Hellmuth
08-17-2007, 11:17 PM
donaghy is just going deeper in the rabbit hole regarding doing shady material. I think he is lying about this one.

FromWayDowntown
08-17-2007, 11:31 PM
It's amazing that you can type, but you somehow have no reading ability whatsoever. You certainly put the "idiot" in "idiot savant". :rolleyes

:tu

BeerIsGood!
08-17-2007, 11:59 PM
I'll never understand why anyone would for one second think that the NBA would fix games in favor of the small market team that they absolutely refuse to promote or endorse in any way. There is no reason the NBA would want the Spurs to win or to be involved deep in the playoffs or finals. If anything the Spurs have become a thorn in their sides because the Spurs don't fit the NBA's stupid marketing strategy.

TDMVPDPOY
08-18-2007, 12:53 AM
how many refs are there currently on nbas/mafias payroll atm?? if 20 gets fired, is stern going to hire amatuers? or promote those she-mans from the wnba to ref nba games?

Switchman
08-18-2007, 10:12 AM
Getting paid 150k-300k a year and you get the best seats in the house every night. Why throw that away.

Aggie Hoopsfan
08-18-2007, 12:40 PM
But wait, wait, I thought David Stern told us it was just "one rogue criminal"

You would have to be blind or a complete *purs honk to not be able to tell mulitple officials have been outright fixing games for many years. And the league is involved at a much higher level, this is the NBA's Watergate.

By the way, told ya so. :toast

So you're admitting LA shouldn't have won those three titles with Shaq and Kobe?

Indazone
08-18-2007, 12:47 PM
But wait, wait, I thought David Stern told us it was just "one rogue criminal"

You would have to be blind or a complete *purs honk to not be able to tell mulitple officials have been outright fixing games for many years. And the league is involved at a much higher level, this is the NBA's Watergate.

By the way, told ya so. :toast

Wouldn't be suprised if "David Stern" was in on it. Why else would he go through such lengths to defend his refs. Fine Isiah Thomas and JVG exhorbitant amounts for statements against his refs for supposedly impugning the reputation of the referees. Wouldn't that be a story if Stern had Mafia connections of his own?

exstatic
08-18-2007, 12:47 PM
My sister's boyfriend's cousin's best friend said it was 200 refs, and that Ferris passed out at 31 Flavors last night.

barbacoataco
08-18-2007, 07:29 PM
I think most fans are confusing gambler's/mob interests influencing games to win specific bets---- over/under, point shaving-------- with the NBA fixing games or entire series in favor of a particular team- i.e. Lakers, Spurs. This is kind of two separate issues.

dbreiden83080
08-18-2007, 10:32 PM
The NBA would have to be the dumbest fucking organization on the face of the planet if they have refs left and right betting on games they are working in influencing the outcomes and nobody knew a thing. So what now every ref in the league could not wait when they got hired to put their job and freedom on the line by engaging in criminal activity.

Indazone
08-18-2007, 11:25 PM
The NBA has about as much credibility right now as WWF

Switchman
08-18-2007, 11:57 PM
Wouldn't be suprised if "David Stern" was in on it. Why else would he go through such lengths to defend his refs. Fine Isiah Thomas and JVG exhorbitant amounts for statements against his refs for supposedly impugning the reputation of the referees. Wouldn't that be a story if Stern had Mafia connections of his own?

I heard he makes 10 mil a year.

inconvertible
08-19-2007, 01:37 AM
well, well, well, that flash gordon knew what he was talking about.
the league is fubar.

inconvertible
08-19-2007, 01:38 AM
when vegas take the NBA off their boards the league will officially become NBAWWE.

LilMissSPURfect
08-20-2007, 11:51 AM
Suns fans will contend that every ref named reffed key suns games over the last ten years and demand an asterick after every championship in the last decade. Phoenix lawyers will sue for visitation rights to 2007 Larry O Brien Trophy.


:rollin :rollin :convertib :makeout

MajorMike
08-20-2007, 11:57 AM
Well, good. maybe now they can get rid of some of the old f*cksticks that have been around 50 years and think they are bigger than the actual game being played.

ambchang
08-20-2007, 11:59 AM
Did people actually read the article?

FromWayDowntown
08-20-2007, 02:02 PM
Did people actually read the article?

Come on -- you can't really expect reading AND comprehension when spweing pure vitriol remains a viable option.

IceColdBrewski
08-20-2007, 02:11 PM
Seriously now. Is anyone gonna be shocked to learn that some NBA refs like to sneak into a casino from time to time? I know I won't be. I'd be willing to bet that 30-50% of officials in all the major sports have participated in some form of illegal gambling at some point.

Obstructed_View
08-20-2007, 05:04 PM
Seriously now. Is anyone gonna be shocked to learn that some NBA refs like to sneak into a casino from time to time? I know I won't be. I'd be willing to bet that 30-50% of officials in all the major sports have participated in some form of illegal gambling at some point.
Since the NBA had the all-star game in Las Vegas, and there are slot machines at the gates in the airport, I don't see how the NBA has a lot of credibility on that issue. Donaghy's probably going to expose a bunch of refs gambling during a round of golf or something lame. He's a douchebag who's trying to save his ass. He'll offer his kids up next.

ShoogarBear
08-20-2007, 07:20 PM
Uhhhh, does anybody remember the Great Ref Lockout of 1995?

Yeah, let's bring in some replacement officials again.

Good Times(TM). :smokin

waly.mg
08-21-2007, 01:53 PM
I've always known that the league fixes games in the Lakers favor. Hopefully the truth will come out.

Like the 0.4 Seconds shot?

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-21-2007, 02:01 PM
You would think that for as long as Donaghy was a referee he'd know the names of more than 20 refs.

SRJ
08-21-2007, 02:08 PM
The NBA has over 20 refs? LMAO

Because there are 30 teams, the league has to have 45 refs at a minimum.

FromWayDowntown
08-21-2007, 02:19 PM
You would think that for as long as Donaghy was a referee he'd know the names of more than 20 refs.

Maybe they're simulating the first round on Stump the Schwab.