Ufc 75

[ATRAIN]

are we really getting this for free?

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventDetail.fightCard&eid=758

[Evan]

yes.

6 hour delay since its in the UK so stay away from MMA websites the day it airs or you will get spoilers.

[LEONARD]

Yep, still hard to believe we're getting the first true unification title fight for free...biggest fight ever on Spike, although I'm sure many UFC fans still think it's Tito vs Shamrock 3... :lol

Main Card Bouts:
-Quinton Jackson (#2 LHW) vs. Dan Henderson (#4 LHW)
-Mirko Cro Cop (#3 HW) vs. Cheick Kongo
-Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill
-Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara

Preliminary Bouts:
-Thiago Silva vs. Tomasz Drwal
-Marcus Davis vs. Paul Taylor
-Naoyuki Kotani vs. Dennis Siver
-Anthony Torres vs. Jess Liaudin
-Gleison Tibau vs. Terry Etim

[Evan]

Honestly, I don't think casual MMA fans will ever need to buy a fight ever again.

If you can only name 10 or less fighters (nothing wrong with that) don't spend a penny on MMA and you will be taken care of. The UFC/WEC will provide enough for free for the indefinate future.

The UFC wants to saturate the market with every type of media possible for UFC to help the sport grow and that includes a ton of free fights, fans win.

Then the UFC/WEC aside, EliteXC and the IFL are free as well.

Well most EliteXC.........they keep changing their mind.

[Soul_Patch]

They did the last one that was in the UK for free too. The card wasnt as good, but still.

Im looking forward to this weekends fights. Im having a viewing party at my place saturday :)

[Evan]

Awesome!

Big weekend, we have this and Tottenham on Sunday. I am on pins and needles.....

[Soul_Patch]

Someone is going to have a really REALLY bad start to their season come sunday. I really like both sides, and both REALLY need the W on sunday.

[Avitus1]

SPIKE TV and UFC must be raking it in off of stuff like this.

[Evan]

UFC is about to sign a 100 million dollar deal to extend their contract

[ATRAIN]

hey do you guys know about this

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76530

[desflood]

http://www.revolveclothing.com/brandpages/Affliction.jsp?source=overture-affliction&OVRAW=affliction%20shirt&OVKEY=affliction%20clothing&OVMTC=advanced&OVADID=6509777011&OVKWID=36945471011

[LEONARD]

Damn...what a rip... :lol

[ALVAREZ6]

Rampage, Cro Cop, and Bisping are all winning their fights, for sure.


Mark my words.

[desflood]

Damn...what a rip... :lol
Buddy, that is some expensive shit right there (pardon the bad language). I can't imaging throwing away $50 on a t-shirt. Maybe if I didn't have kids...

[Evan]

I agree with that.

[ALVAREZ6]

people who sell tees for 50 bucks are fucking ass clowns

[Evan]

people who sell tees for 50 bucks are fucking ass clowns

Well....if there is a market.....
:greedy

[desflood]

people who sell tees for 50 bucks are fucking ass clowns
I agree with THAT :lol

[dallaskd]

Rampage, Cro Cop, and Bisping are all winning their fights, for sure.


Mark my words.

Did you see Wandy vs Henderson???

[dallaskd]

Well....if there is a market.....
:greedy

There is. Buffalo Wild Wings was full of guys with Affliction Shirts.

[IX_Equilibrium]

There is. Buffalo Wild Wings was full of guys with Affliction Shirts.


:lol :lol

[IX_Equilibrium]

dan henderson training for rampage part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEmkHsPQVnk


dan henderson training for rampage part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biZhWQZIA8A&mode=related&search=

[sa_butta]

I am so pumped for this one. Unbeleivable this is free for us.

[LEONARD]

Dan Henderson on Stephen Quadros show
http://www.sherdog.com/news/radio.asp?id=296

Dan Henderson chat at UFCJunkie.com
http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/08/27/dan-henderson-online-chat-transcript-%e2%80%94-a-ufcjunkiecom-and-mickey%e2%80%99s-event/

Rampage training
http://bloodyelbow.com/story/2007/8/28/222954/125

[IX_Equilibrium]

dan henderson training for rampage part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEmkHsPQVnk


dan henderson training for rampage part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biZhWQZIA8A&mode=related&search=

dan henderson training for rampage part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PYsJK8pg8g

[LEONARD]

dan henderson training for rampage part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PYsJK8pg8g

:fro

[LEONARD]

Hendo on Best Damn Sports Show
http://ufcmania.com/2007/08/30/ufc-75-dan-henderson-talks-rampage-on-best-damn-sports-show-period-video/

Hendo 1 on 1 with The Fight Network (6 parts)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LRRbGDvuVAI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VSQSHnmrGsk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JYSlhu5hpQQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R-bZNyeUG94
http://youtube.com/watch?v=36gB5PnU-jE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KCSL56z_p80

Rampage and Zab Zudah (boxer) discuss their sports for ESPN the rag (video)
http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/entry/rampage-and-judah-talk-mma-and-boxing/

Rampage and Bisping talk about Liddell KO, etc
http://ufcmania.com/2007/08/30/rampage-and-bisping-talk-about-fan-reaction-to-liddell-ko-video/

Bisping discusses Hamill
http://ufcmania.com/2007/08/31/ufc-quick-quote-the-count-bisping-on-his-nickname-and-ufc-75-fight-with-hamill/

[LEONARD]

Crocop training video...Lister, Yvel (this is the interview where Yvel claims he's fighting Fedor in Canada in Oct)
http://www.mmahaven.com/2007/09/02/cro-cop-vs-kongo-training-and-interview-yvel-bonjasky/

Bisping interview...discussing his training at Big Bear, Bisping, and calls out Sokoudjou...
http://mmamadness.com/insight.html?newsitem_id=73

Marcus Davis interview
http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/09/04/marcus-davis-discusses-ufc-75-a-ufcjunkiecom-interview/

Houston Alexander interview
http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/09/02/houston-alexander-ufc-75-interview-a-ufcjunkiecom-exclusive/

[dallaskd]

Countdown tommorow at 9 pm.

[LEONARD]

I'm pretty sure it's 10:00 central time tonight...

[Evan]

Its is. Got my DVR ready to roll.

can't believe some people are complaining about commercials for the UFC 75, thats free.

Idiots.

[dallaskd]

I'm pretty sure it's 10:00 central time tonight...

9:00 somewhere besides Dallas..

[LEONARD]

Fedor was mentioned and shown on Countdown to UFC 75...another good sign that his signing is a done deal. Same thing happened with Big Nog...they started talking about him and boom, he was signed. They don't mention fighters outside of the UFC normally.

Crocop appears to be both humbled and pissed about losing. He's also opening up to the UFC fans by participating in the countdown show. Remember how he was before his first 2 fights? They could barely get him to do any interviews or anything...

Randy Couture picked Rampage to win...

Rampage vs Hendo article by Sherdog's Jake Rossen
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=8875

Rampage doesn't want to fight Chuck again. He also said that he broke his wrist 3 wks before their fight in May.
http://ufcmania.com/2007/09/06/rampage-i-dont-want-to-fight-chuck-anymore/
http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=4753

Bisping video interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1253

[oligarchy]

Predictions:

Quentin Jackson vs. Dan Henderson
Matt Hamill vs. Michael Bisping
CroCop vs. Cheick Kongo
Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara
Paul Taylor vs. Marcus Davis

Preliminary card
Thiago Silva vs. Tomasz Drwal
Naoyuki Kotani vs. Dennis Siver
Anthony Torres vs. Jess Liaudin
Gleison Tibau vs. Terry Etim


--------
Rampage and Hollywood should be a great fight.. I'm thinking decision. I'm hoping Cro Cop gets this win and he doesn't retire after his contract is up. CropCop by KO in 1st. Bisping should be obvious, but there could always be an upset. Bisping by TKO 2nd RD. Alexander is just tough -- 1st RD TKO. I'll admit I don't know much about Taylor, so this is harder to call. I'll go with Davis's experience overall in MMA and his current win streak (although against a number of cans).

[LEONARD]

Remember, it's time delayed...so stay off the internet on Saturday if you don't want to get spoiled!! I certainly am....

Main Card Bouts:
-Quinton Jackson (#2 LHW) vs. Dan Henderson (#4 LHW)
-Mirko Cro Cop (#3 HW) vs. Cheick Kongo
-Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill
-Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara
-Paul Taylor vs. Marcus Davis

Preliminary Bouts:
-Thiago Silva vs. Tomasz Drwal
-Naoyuki Kotani vs. Dennis Siver
-Anthony Torres vs. Jess Liaudin
-Gleison Tibau vs. Terry Etim

Official site
http://75.ufc.com

I know I can't be the only one that finds at least a little humor in the "Pride vs UFC" promotion of Rampage vs Hendo, right? Sorry, but Rampage made his name in Pride and is still a "Pride guy" to most. He was Pride when the Pride vs UFC debate was at it's height. I'm sure some UFC huggers will claim his win over Hendo as proof that UFC > Pride. Unification belt? Great. Champion vs Champion? Sure. Pride vs UFC? Not so much...IMO of course.

I'm a huge Hendo fan, but I want to see him takeover the MW division, so I'm pulling for Rampage.

I also think we'll see the old Crocop, with a twist. I have a feeling he'll take Kongo down and pound him out.

I think Alexander will be exposed as a fluke.

I hope we get to see Silva vs Drwal.

Fedor was mentioned and shown (clip of him vs Crocop) on Countdown to UFC 75 last night...another good sign that his signing is a done deal. Same thing happened with Big Nog...they started talking about him and boom, he was signed. They don't mention fighters outside of the UFC normally.

Crocop appears to be both humbled and pissed about losing. He's also opening up to the UFC fans by participating in the countdown show. Remember how he was before his first 2 fights? They could barely get him to do any interviews or anything...didn't even show up for the press conf.

Pre fight interviews are starting to show up...lol at Sokoudjou in the gorilla shirt next to Dan at the press conf... :lol
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.video

Bisping torches Hamill pretty good in his Sherdog video interview...

[LEONARD]

LMAO...Rampage on Mauro's radio show (Sept 5th)...Mauro's laugh is killing me... :lol
http://www.hardcoresportsradio.com/programs/fight/

[oligarchy]

I know I can't be the only one that finds at least a little humor in the "Pride vs UFC" promotion of Rampage vs Hendo, right? Sorry, but Rampage made his name in Pride and is still a "Pride guy" to most. He was Pride when the Pride vs UFC debate was at it's height. I'm sure some UFC huggers will claim his win over Hendo as proof that UFC > Pride. Unification belt? Great. Champion vs Champion? Sure. Pride vs UFC? Not so much...IMO of course.
I agree. UFC has some crazy antics. I could understand more if Hendo didn't sign a contract with the UFC. He is a UFC fighter, not to mention the fact that Page spent most of his career in Pride.

The other thing; I hear so many people talk about Hendo's superior wrestling and how Page won't be able to do anything against him. I guess some people didn't watch him fight Lindland? Lindland sucks at wrestling, I suppose. :shrug

[LEONARD]

Juanito (Rampage's trainer) video interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1252

[ALVAREZ6]

what's the date for this ufc?

[ALVAREZ6]

Nevermind, I guess it's on the 8th.





?

[Evan]

yup!

[dallaskd]

-Quinton Jackson (#2 LHW) vs. Dan Henderson (#4 LHW)
-Mirko Cro Cop (#3 HW) vs. Cheick Kongo
-Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill(yes thats right)
-Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara
-Paul Taylor vs. Marcus Davis

Preliminary Bouts:
-Thiago Silva vs. Tomasz Drwal
-Naoyuki Kotani vs. Dennis Siver
-Anthony Torres vs. Jess Liaudin
-Gleison Tibau vs. Terry Etim

[dallaskd]

Remember, it's time delayed...so stay off the internet on Saturday if you don't want to get spoiled!! I certainly am....

Main Card Bouts:
-Quinton Jackson (#2 LHW) vs. Dan Henderson (#4 LHW)
-Mirko Cro Cop (#3 HW) vs. Cheick Kongo
-Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill
-Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara
-Paul Taylor vs. Marcus Davis

Preliminary Bouts:
-Thiago Silva vs. Tomasz Drwal
-Naoyuki Kotani vs. Dennis Siver
-Anthony Torres vs. Jess Liaudin
-Gleison Tibau vs. Terry Etim

Official site
http://75.ufc.com

I know I can't be the only one that finds at least a little humor in the "Pride vs UFC" promotion of Rampage vs Hendo, right? Sorry, but Rampage made his name in Pride and is still a "Pride guy" to most. He was Pride when the Pride vs UFC debate was at it's height. I'm sure some UFC huggers will claim his win over Hendo as proof that UFC > Pride. Unification belt? Great. Champion vs Champion? Sure. Pride vs UFC? Not so much...IMO of course.

I'm a huge Hendo fan, but I want to see him takeover the MW division, so I'm pulling for Rampage.

I also think we'll see the old Crocop, with a twist. I have a feeling he'll take Kongo down and pound him out.

I think Alexander will be exposed as a fluke.

I hope we get to see Silva vs Drwal.

Fedor was mentioned and shown (clip of him vs Crocop) on Countdown to UFC 75 last night...another good sign that his signing is a done deal. Same thing happened with Big Nog...they started talking about him and boom, he was signed. They don't mention fighters outside of the UFC normally.

Crocop appears to be both humbled and pissed about losing. He's also opening up to the UFC fans by participating in the countdown show. Remember how he was before his first 2 fights? They could barely get him to do any interviews or anything...didn't even show up for the press conf.

Pre fight interviews are starting to show up...lol at Sokoudjou in the gorilla shirt next to Dan at the press conf... :lol
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.video

Bisping torches Hamill pretty good in his Sherdog video interview...

Correct me if im wrong but i belive Hendo fought in the UFC vs Carlos Newton before he ever fought in pride fc.

[ALVAREZ6]

Matt Hamill is the man, that'd be cool if he won.

[dallaskd]

changed to kotani

[dallaskd]

I pm'd kori. shes hooking us up with some vbookies tonight.

[oligarchy]

Correct me if im wrong but i belive Hendo fought in the UFC vs Carlos Newton before he ever fought in pride fc.
He fought twice on the same night in the UFC. I'm not sure why he didn't stay.

[Evan]

Matt Hamill is the man, that'd be cool if he won.

Bisping will run through him.

I simply do not understand this match up. Its so incredibly one sided its nearly pointless..... in fact my guess is SpikeTV asked for this matchup to hype TUF a bit as part of that 100 million dollar contract.

I like Hamill but he isn't anywhere near close to fighting someone like Bisping. Bisping has fought and beaten some high caliber talent int he UK before TUF.

Matt will look quite overwhelmed pretty quick here, he simply does not have the experience of Bisping...NOR THE SIZE ....and Bisping is by no means a big LHW.

Out of everyone that has come out of TUF he is one of my top "prospects" who can one day compete for a title. Diaz, K-Flo, Joe Daddy and Bisping are all becoming top fighters in their own right.

I will readily admit I fell prey to the Griffin hype and he would have been on that list not too long ago. :drunk

I would have loved to see Forrest Griffin fight Bisping here instead but I must give the UFC props for serving up one of their biggest hyped fighters to herald in a true Champion in Shogun. :toast

[Evan]

I pm'd kori. shes hooking us up with some vbookies tonight.

Thanks dude!

[Evan]

..... in fact my guess is SpikeTV asked for this matchup to hype TUF a bit as part of that 100 million dollar contract.

While that may seem weird this happens all the time in sports. TNT gets the NBA to change game times to meet their demands all the time when they are working the schedule, same with FOX and the rest of the networks for the NFL. Even NASCAR bows down to demands.

And yeah I quoted myself….I went there. :p:

[LEONARD]

Correct me if im wrong but i belive Hendo fought in the UFC vs Carlos Newton before he ever fought in pride fc.

Yea, he did...1 event (2 fights) over 9 yrs ago when he was a wrestler and knew little about MMA. He's fought there the last 7 yrs (18 fights) and that's where he made his name. He's a Pride guy. I guess we could call him a "Rings Guy" or "Brazil Open" guy too...

Couture > Fedor... :lol


Matt Hamill is the man, that'd be cool if he won.

Still waiting...
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1932343&postcount=37

if anybody is a piece of $hit, it's Hamill. See his dirty fight with Petruzelli by chance? Heard what other fighters have said about him as far as bragging about trying to paralyze people in wrestling matches???

[LEONARD]

Fight Network Radio - Rampage, Hendo, and Jordan Breen
http://www.mmahaven.com/2007/09/07/319/

Crocop the practical joker...
http://ufcmania.com/2007/09/07/mirko-cro-cop-i-like-to-play-practical-jokes/

Rampage video interview on Sherdog
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1258

Terry Etim article
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=8893

Sakara article
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=8894

[LEONARD]

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=635978

:bang

Have to just wait and see...

[oligarchy]

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=635978

:bang

Have to just wait and see...

Saw it earlier. Don't know how much I believe it, because didn't Affliction announce that Fedor would be there? Maybe him being there were just rumors in the first place. Saturday is day........

[LEONARD]

PRIDE champion Dan Henderson (204 lbs.) vs. UFC champion Quinton Jackson (204 lbs.)
Michael Bisping (205 lbs.) vs. Matt Hamill (205 lbs.)
Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic (220 lbs.) vs. Cheick Kongo (231 lbs.)
Marcus Davis (169 lbs.) vs. Paul Taylor (171 lbs.)
Houston Alexander (203 lbs.) vs. Alessio Sakara (205 lbs.)
Terry Etim (155 bs.) vs. Gleison Tibau (156 lbs.)
Tomasz Drwal (204 lbs.) vs. Thiago Silva (204 lbs.)
Dennis Siver (154 lbs.) vs. Naoyuki Kotani (155 lbs.)
Jess Liaudin (170 lbs.) vs. Anthony Torres (170 lbs.)

[Evan]

Mirko is the biggest 220lb human alive.

[LEONARD]

Yea, I don't get it...I'm 215 lbs...makes no sense...

Weigh-in video up
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.video

Hendo beefed up to 204 lbs...of course Quinton will be about 220 at fight time though...

[Evan]

Hendo....see ya at MW next time.

I love ya, but you aren't a LHW! And neither is Hamill!

[Evan]

Must be that tiny head he has. lol

[Rip-Hamilton32]

houston alexander with another ko, looks like hes for real

[ALVAREZ6]

The Marcus Davis win was a great fight.

Houston Alexander looks like a bad mother fucker, he's gonna work his way up that 205 ladder.


And Cro Cop just was a bitch tonight.

[Rip-Hamilton32]

crocop should stay in the ring

[dbreiden83080]

Matt Hamill got screwed big time he won that fight 30-27 what a lousy decision that was are they fucking kidding me or what? Bisping go watch the tape if you need further proof you got your ass kicked, BOOOO on that one.

[Switchman]

horrible fight bisping. No way that dude should have won.

I don't like hamill at all but he got screwed.

And I laughed my ass off @ hamill's entrance song.

[dbreiden83080]

Bisping got smashed and i bet if there is no rematch that punk goes down to 185 pds. He got his ass handed to him by basically a big strong wrestler with some boxing skills. Matt is still nowhere near as well rounded as he is going to be. Bisping has no shot at all at 205 pds of EVER being a champ or even a top contender. Dana White review that tape get together with judges who know how to score an MMA fight and give Matt that decision, he earned it.

[Rip-Hamilton32]

congrats to rampage but chuck will beat him next time, i hope

[dallaskd]

I loved Hamill's intrance song. :lol
I was the only person to pick Matt. It's unfortunate for him. I thought he won unanimously. He will bounce back. Alexander looks good, but im not sold on him. Let him fight Bisping next and lets see what happens. Davis had a great recovery. Excellent job done. Cro Cop is not a UFC fighter, idk if its he cant handle an octagon and elbows or he was just not there mentally. Rampage., I doubted you. great job. wow the mma(well not really more just UFC) talk has picked up here at spurstalk. one step closer to our own forum.

[dallaskd]

congrats to rampage but chuck will beat him next time, i hope

They will never fight again.

[dallaskd]

Vitor is back in the ufc? very cool.

[dbreiden83080]

congrats to rampage but chuck will beat him next time, i hope

How do you sell a 3rd Chuck/Rampage fight when he has crushed Chuck twice? Chuck is a great fighter but he does not match up with Rampage at all.

[dallaskd]

crocop should stay in the ring

What org? No way he leaves the UFC.

[dallaskd]

How do you sell a 3rd Chuck/Rampage fight when he has crushed Chuck twice? Chuck is a great fighter but he does not match up with Rampage at all.

It wont happen. Maybe Rua-Liddell, or Silva-Liddell but Rampage won't have the belt when its Chuck's turn. Let me ask you this. How do you sell a Silva-Jackson fight when Wandy has already crushed rampage twice?

[dallaskd]

Hamill-Bisping much resembled Ortiz-Griffin.

[oligarchy]

I'm surprised they didn't stop the Davis fight. He did turn it around though.

Cro Cop just looked horrible. He is definitely retiring after his contract. I can't believe his tentative nature in the fight. As was stated, when Mirko gets backed down he is a different firghter. This was shown by GG and Kongo.

Hamill got screwed in his fight. I made the right pick, but I don't feel good about it.

Rampage looked good. I should've bet more on my vBookie. Is Silva or Rua up for the title shot next? I hope they don't do Liddell again before they let Rua have it if he beats Griffin.

[dbreiden83080]

Hamill-Bisping much resembled Ortiz-Griffin.

No that was an actual close fight where Tito crushed Forrest in Round one and then one could argue lost the next 2 rounds. I had Tito winning Round 1 by 2 pts and then losing round 2 and the 3rd a draw. Matt crushed Mike in this fiight. He beat him standing, he beat him on the ground, he was robbed.

[dbreiden83080]

It wont happen. Maybe Rua-Liddell, or Silva-Liddell but Rampage won't have the belt when its Chuck's turn. Let me ask you this. How do you sell a Silva-Jackson fight when Wandy has already crushed rampage twice?

Simple he just beat the guy that beat Wandy and he has beat Chuck again. You could easily sell that Rampage is better now than he has ever been, which i think he is and will beat Wandy now.

[dallaskd]

Who do you give CC next? Loser of Sylvia-Vera, maybe Arlovski? Or someone like Jake O'Brien or Heath Herring?

[dallaskd]

I dont want the UFC to give him a pud to bring his hype back.

[dbreiden83080]

Who do you give CC next? Loser of Sylvia-Vera, maybe Arlovski? Or someone like Jake O'Brien or Heath Herring?

I don't know about that one. He looked awful tonight in every way. He really needs to fight a scrub and KO him just to get his swagger back a little. I don't think he has mentally bounced back yet from that KO he got from Gonzaga. He is so much better than what he is showing right now and anyone who saw him in Pride knows he is much better than what he is showing.

[dallaskd]

I really agree...

MMAweekly-

In what ended up being the focal point for the majority of the fans watching UFC 75, Michael “The Count” Bisping won a very controversial split decision over Cincinnati, Ohio native Matt “The Hammer” Hamill, in what will almost surely go down as one of the worst decisions in UFC history.

Hamill, who was a competitor on the Ultimate Fighter season 3 alongside Bisping, showed a much improved MMA game as he looked like a much better striker than the heavily favored British native in the early part of the fight.

The former collegiate wrestler landed a number of jabs and combinations that put Bisping on the defensive right away.

Hamill stalked Bisping throughout rounds 1 and 2 landing crisper, cleaner punches and taking the eventual winner of the Ultimate Fighter season down at will.

To almost everyone’s surprise watching the fight, Hamill looked like the more experienced and well rounded fighter when even after taking Bisping down, he let his opponent back up where he punished him on the feet.

The 3rd round was the only time Bisping put up much offense as he let his hands go and worked his stand-up against Hamill.

While he never landed anything truly devastating due to the Ohioan’s good boxing defense, Bisping was more aggressive late in the fight, but again didn’t do anything that ever put Hamill in any real danger.

The judges’ scorecards came in and when the first read a 29-28 decision for Bisping, the reaction was instantaneous as to shock how the Brit won 2 rounds. The 2nd judge saw it 30-27 for Hamill, while Cecil Peoples, who has been involved in controversial decisions in the past, scored the bout 29-28 for Bisping.

Michael Bisping pulled off a split decision win and in his post fight interview refused to give any credit to his opponent’s performance acting like he just won by knockout instead of being handed a gift decision.

On the other side of the fight, Hamill showed a tremendous amount of graciousness in defeat and should be commended for not being more upset after a horrendous decision.

The fans were also very vocal about this particular fight as the callers into MMAWeekly Radio’s post fight show rallied around Matt Hamill in this bout and voted him Fighter of the Night for his performance and grace in the face of defeat after a decision that no one seemed to agree with.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=4666&zoneid=13

[dallaskd]

Hamill is a champ in my book.

[dallaskd]

UFC 76 is Hostile Territory, because it's in Ohio and Franklin is from there...ect. Matt Hamill is from Cinci too. How about a bisping-hamill rematch in Cinci? First fight on bispings turf and the second one in Hamill's home town. Now that would be hostile territory. Heck, throw ortiz-evans on there and call it UFC 76: Rematch.

[dbreiden83080]

UFC 76 is Hostile Territory, because it's in Ohio and Franklin is from there...ect. Matt Hamill is from Cinci too. How about a bisping-hamill rematch in Cinci? First fight on bispings turf and the second one in Hamill's home town. Now that would be hostile territory. Heck, throw ortiz-evans on there and call it UFC 76: Rematch.

Yeah i like that idea although they both took some damage so i think that may be too quick a turnaround to have Matt and Mike get back in there again. It was such a bad decision, i had trouble getting into the main event which is a shame because it was a great fight. I see on the UFC site they are already captioning the fight like it was close and somehow legit that Matt lost. I can see Dana White now on the promo for the rematch saying how "Most people thought Matt won but it was close", yeah right he owned Bisping. The good thing about this is that who the hell outside of the UK will want to watch Mike fight anyone but Matt in a rematch?? Matt gained more fans for getting robbed and showing class than he would have if they just gave him the win like they should have. Mike got beat and then talked shit about it, nobody in the US will care about him fighting again unless he is fighting Matt and hopefully gets whipped again.

[LEONARD]

I was very impressed with both Jackson and Henderson. I had a feeling it would go 5 rounds. Both guys are VERY hard to knockout and neither guy is known for submissions either. I had it 4 rds to 1 rd for Rampage. I could see possibly giving Henderson 2 rds though. I think this outcome is best for the UFC in the long run. The MW division is lacking in depth. If Henderson does move down to his natural weightclass, the division gets a huge shot in the arm. I hope that’s what happens. I wouldn’t mind seeing Hendo fight Chuck at some point too though.

How the mighty have fallen. Word is Crocop suffered a broken rib in the 1st rd, which would make sense given his lack of activity in the 2nd and 3rd rounds after a solid 1st rd. Regardless, Kongo caused the broken rib and he brought it to CC the entire fight. I hope CC doesn’t call it quits. He’s still a top 10 HW in my opinion and if he’s on a card I’ll be watching. How about CC - Arlovski? Kongo is damn lucky he wasn't docked a point...I can't remember the last time I saw 3 straight nutshots...not to mention 1 or 2 earlier in the fight (with no warning). I think the reason John didn't take a point is because Kongo was handling him so well. I guess a fence grab (Tito) is worse than nutshots... :lol

Poor Matt Hamill…he was certainly robbed. Even the London fans boo’d the decision…that’s all the proof you need. And then to over-celebrate and talk trash to Hamill about going back to wrestling? Ridiculous. I’m officially wishing failure on Bisping, which probably means he’ll go on a 20 fight win streak of course. Seriously, he needs to drop to MW or he’s going to get destroyed by a mid to upper level LHW. Hamill beat him up pretty bad. Maybe that’s why he went to train with Rampage…eliminate him from the list of guys that he would fight in the future. Apparently they became good friends while at Big Bear…

Nice comeback by Marcus Davis…maybe he’s got a little something. He called out Gomi 2 fights ago. While Gomi to the UFC doesn’t appear to be happening, I’m all for Davis getting a step up in competition to see what he can do…

And Houston Alexander…damn. Time for a step up for him too. I nominate Bonnar, Tito (I really have no interest in seeing Tito-Evans 2), Evans, Jardine (after he loses to Chuck), or Forrest (after he loses to Shogun)…
The Torres - Liaudin fight apparently aired in England only, it’s out there if you search for it…

I still say Fedor is a done deal. Not only did they talk about him and show footage of him in the Countdown to UFC 75 show, but he was mentioned during UFC 75 several times. During the Crocop - Kongo fight, Rogan even mis-identified Crocop as Fedor once during his fight! And if you have the fights recorded, go back to 2:52 left in the 4th rd of the Rampage - Hendo fight. Goldberg said…

“We’ll get Fedor in here. To fight the guy next to us. Randy already knows.”Take it for what it’s worth, but they just don’t talk about fighters that aren’t in the UFC. If you only watched UFC broadcasts in the past, you’d have never heard of Fedor before last night…

[IX_Equilibrium]

If you only watched UFC broadcasts in the past, you’d have never heard of Fedor before last night…


Rogan actually mentioned Fedor a couple of UFCs ago.

[oligarchy]

Rogan actually mentioned Fedor a couple of UFCs ago.

That's weird. They typically don't mention fighters, and more specifically other organizations. I know they were pissed when they had tried to setup the Silva v. Liddell fight they had brought in Silva who was wearing a Pride shirt. They called the fight off and Dana was pissed because it was free advertising for them. Rogan mentioned they don't usually -- aren't really supposed to -- talk about other fighters and organization. E.g., before they signed Cro Cop you didn't hear anything about him. Then, before they signed him you started seeing and hearing about him. It's just my opinion that they've signed him already.


“We’ll get Fedor in here. To fight the guy next to us. Randy already knows.”

Did you hear Rogan call Cro Cop, Fedor? He kept talking about Fedor, then called Crop Cop, Fedor.

[LEONARD]

I re-watched Hamill-Bisping last night and there is NO WAY anybody can justify the 2nd round the Bisping. I didn't even watch the 3rd after finishing the 2nd...

Hamill blocked just about everything Bisping threw at him, except for a few jabs. He landed some strikes of his own and got 2 or 3 takedowns...


Rogan actually mentioned Fedor a couple of UFCs ago.

Technicality...one time, after the Pride purchase...

My point is still valid...


Did you hear Rogan call Cro Cop, Fedor? He kept talking about Fedor, then called Crop Cop, Fedor.

Yes, he caught himself the 2nd time...

[Evan]

Bisping and Hamill rematch is a go

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Dana-White:-HamillBisping-Rematch-Is-No-Brainer.html

I love the UFC, no waiting for anything. They get it done asap.

[LEONARD]

Un-aired prelims...dial up need not apply... (high quality)

Glieson Tibau vs Terry Etim.wmv
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9yvc83

Thiago Silva v.s. Thomas Drwal.wmv
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9sk3w4

Jess Liaudin vs Anthony Torres.avi
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g57mwl

Naoyuki Kotani vs. Dennis Siver not out yet...

[oligarchy]

Bisping and Hamill rematch is a go

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Dana-White:-HamillBisping-Rematch-Is-No-Brainer.html

I love the UFC, no waiting for anything. They get it done asap.

We'll see how immediate. Tito and Evans looks to be at least 5 events out, or more.

The only thing that sucks for Hamill is that he beat him the first time. It's a lose-lose situation for Hamill. I'm also sure that Bisping wants plenty of time to prepare, and it's not going to be a quick turn-around. Even if Dana said it was going to be 77 or 78, I'm sure Bisping would be "injured" and have to pull out. Bisping knew he lost. Look at Bisping at the end of fight -- head down, body posture "slumped" -- he knew he lost.

[2centsworth]

We'll see how immediate. Tito and Evans looks to be at least 5 events out, or more.

The only thing that sucks for Hamill is that he beat him the first time. It's a lose-lose situation for Hamill. I'm also sure that Bisping wants plenty of time to prepare, and it's not going to be a quick turn-around. Even if Dana said it was going to be 77 or 78, I'm sure Bisping would be "injured" and have to pull out. Bisping knew he lost. Look at Bisping at the end of fight -- head down, body posture "slumped" -- he knew he lost.Hamill will beat him again. Hamill is too big and strong and surprising learned to punch. I just hope for a KO to shut Bisping up!

[Evan]

We'll see how immediate. Tito and Evans looks to be at least 5 events out, or more..........................Even if Dana said it was going to be 77 or 78,

Thats pretty darn quck though. These cards are planned out pretty far in advance so squeezing in a fight isn't so easy.

And I give this one to Bisping.

I like both fighters a lot but I give the next one to Bising.

[Evan]

From Matts Myspace:

“I wanted to thank you for all your support following UFC 75. I put a lot of heart into that fight and I feel good about my performance. I am still improving and getting better with more training and to become a well-rounded fighter. I am looking forward to more fights in the near future. PS I want to thank you all for the emails. I have thousands and its hard to respond to all of them but I do try to read them when I have free time and it lifts my spirit. So thank you.”

[Evan]

“UFC 75” ON SPIKE TV IS THE MOST WATCHED UFC EVENT IN HISTORY

4.7 Million Viewers Tune In To See First Ever UFC Title Bout On Spike TV

Fight Card Outdrew Everything Else On Television With Young Men On September 8 Including College Football And NASCAR

New York, NY • September 11, 2007 • The first ever UFC title fight on Spike TV drew a staggering 4.7 million viewers on Saturday, September 8 (9:00pm-12:11am) making it the most watched UFC event ever and the most watched mixed martial arts event ever in North America. The “UFC 75” telecast emanating from the O2 Arena in London, England peaked at 5.6 million for the bout between UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and PRIDE champ Dan Henderson. The fight card drew more Men 18-34 and Men 18-49 than anything else on television, broadcast or cable on September 8, including heavy sports competition from college football on ABC and ESPN, NASCAR on ABC, and the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS.

“The ratings are further proof that the tide in American sports is changing,” said Kevin Kay, General Manager, Spike TV. “Young men, who constitute the Spike TV core audience, prefer the incredible action and athleticism of the UFC to more traditional sports.”

“We're very proud to have added to the rich history of sports in London with this watershed mixed martial arts event,” said Dana White, UFC President. “Not only did UFC 75 showcase the bout that unified the 205 lb Pride and UFC titles, it did so in front of a record breaking crowd at the O2 Arena in London, and in front of the largest U.S. audience to ever tune in to an MMA card during its Spike TV telecast.”

“UFC 75” on Spike TV scored 2,503,000 Men 18-49 compared to 2.3 million for Oregon vs. Michigan on ABC; 2.1 million for NASCAR on ABC; 1.3 million for Virginia Tech vs. LSU on ESPN; 1.3 million for Notre Dame vs. Penn St on ESPN, and 546,000 for the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS.

“UFC 75” on Spike TV scored 1,622,000 Men 18-34 compared to 1.2 million for Oregon vs. Michigan on ABC; 717,000 for NASCAR on ABC; 656,000 million for Virginia Tech vs. LSU on ESPN; 687,000 for Notre Dame vs. Penn St on ESPN and 190,000 for the U.S. Open Women’s Final on CBS.

Overall, the Spike TV telecast drew a 3.1 rating (3.0 million homes), 5.7 Men 18-34 (1.6 million), 4.5 in M18-49 (2.5 million), and 6.2 rating in M25-34 (1.0 million).

Jackson won a hard fought, five round, unanimous decision over Henderson to unify the UFC and PRIDE titles in the 205lb weight class. The night's action also featured a hotly contested three round battle between former The Ultimate Fighter 3 teammates Michael “The Count” Bisping and Matt “The Hammer” Hamill, with a split decision going to Bisping. Frenchman Cheick Kongo and Mirko Cro Cop went head to head in a battle of feared kickboxers, with Kongo earning a unanimous decision after three rounds in the Octagon.

The action-packed undercard also featured Nebraska native Houston Alexander winning his second straight UFC bout in stunning fashion, knocking out his opponent Alessio Sakara in just over a minute into the first round, and surging welterweight contender Marcus “The Irish Hand Grenade” Davis extending his UFC win streak to six after submitting Paul Taylor via arm-bar in the first round of their match-up.

Spike TV is the exclusive cable television home to the premier mixed martial arts organization in the world, The Ultimate Fighting Championship®. The sixth season of the highly-rated reality series, “The Ultimate Fighter,” featuring UFC welterweight champion Matt Serra and former champ Matt Hughes as coaches, premieres Wednesday, September 19 at 11:00pm ET/PT.

Spike TV is available in 93.6 million homes and is a division of MTV Networks. A unit of Viacom (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B), MTV Networks is one of the world’s leading creators of programming and content across all media platforms.

[oligarchy]

Thats pretty darn quck though. These cards are planned out pretty far in advance so squeezing in a fight isn't so easy.

And I give this one to Bisping.

I like both fighters a lot but I give the next one to Bising.

AA and Sylvia fought 2 events later, which is the quicket rematch to date, I believe. I don't see Hamill and Bisping fighting at 77 or 78 is all I mean. I think it's going to be further out and thus giving Bisping a better shot to be more prepared. Thus a lose-lose for Hamill, because I also believe Bisping will take it. It's very rare for the outcome to change when a quick turn-around happens for rematches.

[LEONARD]

Good to see that people paid attention...it's the biggest Spike card yet and the ratings should've reflected that...:fro

[Evan]

Quite a crowd for a sport thats already "peaked" :rolleyes on a bad channel wouldn't you say..................

[oligarchy]

You call those ratings? Didn't you see Contender?

[Evan]

You call those ratings? Didn't you see Contender?

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Moving from NBC to ESPN cost The Contender more than 5.5 million viewers. Last week’s debut was watched by 1.03 million people, compared to the 6.7 million that watched the first episode on NBC last spring.
While some of that change could be blamed by the show’s move to cable, which has traditionally drawn fewer viewers than network TV, that excuse doesn’t work this time.


On the same night, ABC’s debut of The One, the US version of Fame Academy, was pounded into the ground by SciFi’s new show Eureka. Despite the drama’s poor execution of an intriguing concept, Eureka “bested the new ABC reality series … by 32%,” according to the Hollywood Reporter.
Sci Fi on map with “Eureka” premiere [Hollywood Reporter]

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http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/cabletv/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001308033

ESPN's The Contender Punches Up Ratings


John Consoli

OCTOBER 18, 2005 -

The rematch between The Contender season one champion Sergio Mora and runner-up Peter Manfredo Jr. produced the highest-rated boxing match on ESPN since 1998, and the most viewed telecast on either ESPN or ESPN2 since 1997.

The telecast was seen in more than 1.2 million homes and produced a household rating of 1.4. The telecast also produced a 2.2 rating among men 18-34, highest rating in that demo for boxing in more than 10 years.

"Saturday night's ratings performance represents a genuine interest by our viewers and boxing enthusiasts for The Contender storyline and high-level competition in general," said Ron Semaio, senior vp, ESPN Original Entertainment in announcing the bouts ratings.

The Contender premiered on NBC last season, but was ratings-challenged on the broadcast network. ESPN decided to pick up the show for a second season, which will begin airing in April 2006. Two more fights will be televised before the start of the second season of the show.

The Contender is produced by ESPN, along with Mark Burnett Productions and DreamWorks

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[Evan]

Meanwhile, the standard ratings for The Contender, meaning the viewers who tune in for each new episode Tuesdays at 10 p.m., are decent and growing slightly each week. The first four weeks of shows averaged a 1.2 rating and a total of 1.4 viewers per week. That’s still behind, but getting within shouting distance, of the ratings of media darling “The Ultimate Fighter” on Spike TV. ESPN is said to be thrilled with the ratings, but keep in mind it still represents about a loss of about five million viewers from last year’s initial season on NBC, in which it was considered a failure.

[2centsworth]

Quite a crowd for a sport thats already "peaked" :rolleyes on a bad channel wouldn't you say..................
you had your hotest star on free TV.

[Evan]

Rampage is the hottest star in the UFC?

[LEONARD]

Rampage is the hottest star in the UFC?

2centsworth
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Get with it Evan!! Homeboy has an excuse for everything... :lol

[LEONARD]

The Contender... :lol

[2centsworth]

Meanwhile, the standard ratings for The Contender, meaning the viewers who tune in for each new episode Tuesdays at 10 p.m., are decent and growing slightly each week. The first four weeks of shows averaged a 1.2 rating and a total of 1.4 viewers per week. That’s still behind, but getting within shouting distance, of the ratings of media darling “The Ultimate Fighter” on Spike TV. ESPN is said to be thrilled with the ratings, but keep in mind it still represents about a loss of about five million viewers from last year’s initial season on NBC, in which it was considered a failure.

Evan,

TUF 5 ratings were lower than the contender ratings you site.

[2centsworth]

The Contender... :lol
You have me on your ignore list :lol . WHat a puss.

[2centsworth]

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Get with it Evan!! Homeboy has an excuse for everything... :lol

Put Boxing's top fighters on free TV and see what happens. There would be a freakin blackout across the country.

[Evan]

In all fairness were talking about the free fight from this weekend here and someone brought up those ratings to compare the contender.

But to get sucked in….TUF 5 ratings were not that great have nothing to do with this argument. But, indeed they were lower. Off the top of my head I think they wen't from a 1.6 to a 1.0 up and down all season between that high and low. But we must also consider were comparing spikeTV to ESPN. ESPN is in many many more homes and is much more established. Relatively, TUF season 5 still wins.

They need to quit having so many seasons. Its too much. This next season will do much better hopefully.

[LEONARD]

Put The Contender on Spike and The Ultimate Fighter on ESPN and see how close they end up... :wakeup

[2centsworth]

Put The Contender on Spike and The Ultimate Fighter on ESPN and see how close they end up... :wakeup
you just proved my point. Most people don't consider UFC enough of a sport to be on those channels.

Can wait to see the PPV numbers for the end of this year. I bet boxing doubles MMA.

[2centsworth]

In all fairness were talking about the free fight from this weekend here and someone brought up those ratings to compare the contender.

But to get sucked in….TUF 5 ratings were not that great have nothing to do with this argument. But, indeed they were lower. Off the top of my head I think they wen't from a 1.6 to a 1.0 up and down all season between that high and low. But we must also consider were comparing spikeTV to ESPN. ESPN is in many many more homes and is much more established. Relatively, TUF season 5 still wins.

They need to quit having so many seasons. Its too much. This next season will do much better hopefully.
MMA needs more Rampage Jacksons to reach the levels of popularity you hope. Otherwise, the strategy will always be to talk down other sports.

[Evan]

Put Boxing's top fighters on free TV and see what happens. There would be a freakin blackout across the country.

If the UFC had as few fights as Boxing, same thing. You must think of all of this in relative terms to the quanity of events going on.

And if they switched networks like LEONARD stated.......TUF would dominate.

[2centsworth]

If the UFC had as few fights as Boxing, same thing. You must think of all of this in relative terms to the quanity of events going on.

And if they switched networks like LEONARD stated.......TUF would dominate.
even from leonards link, last year boxing had 7 major ppv events compared to 9 for UFC. This year the differential will be about the same. Boxing still has Pacquiao vs Barrera, Cotto vs Mosley and Vargas vs Mayorga. All should eclipse 500k PPV buys with 700k on the high side. Plus, the live gate money should be huge for all three fights.

[Evan]

Ok, if were comparing Boxing in general you then need to take in all MMA. That number changes greatly.

[2centsworth]

Ok, if were comparing Boxing in general you then need to take in all MMA. That number changes greatly.
All MMA equals UFC at this point. Per Dana White all the other MMA organizations are losing money out the gazoo.

[Evan]

All MMA equals UFC at this point. Per Dana White all the other MMA organizations are losing money out the gazoo.

Um, no.

If your throwing out comments like that I am done on this topic.

[2centsworth]

Um, no.

If your throwing out comments like that I am done on this topic.
Where is the power at in MMA? What organization is producing the Revenue?

[Switchman]

haha is this guy really trying to argue boxing > MMA?

Your sport is inferior and boring. Boxing is broken.

[2centsworth]

haha is this guy really trying to argue boxing > MMA?

Your sport is inferior and boring. Boxing is broken.
present the facts. Boxing generates more revenue and more fan support. MMA caters to white young guys who think they know everything, so it's no surpirse you would think your opinion is fact.

[oligarchy]

I think you should present the facts that all these other organizations are losing money. You are thinking your opinion is fact. I can opine all day about how I believe that boxing generates less money than MMA all day long.

Edit: For 2006, show me live gate and ppv sales for boxing.

[LEONARD]

UFC 75 replays Friday at 8:00 CT on Spike

[2centsworth]

I think you should present the facts that all these other organizations are losing money. You are thinking your opinion is fact. I can opine all day about how I believe that boxing generates less money than MMA all day long.

Edit: For 2006, show me live gate and ppv sales for boxing.
Do you ever go to leonards links? The most recent Dana White interview talked about how all the other organizations sucked and lose money. Also, a quick google search will show you 2006 numbers. btw, it's almost 2008 and boxing numbers are kicking the living crap out of UFC since your fad year.:lol

[oligarchy]

Do you ever go to leonards links? The most recent Dana White interview talked about how all the other organizations sucked and lose money. Also, a quick google search will show you 2006 numbers. btw, it's almost 2008 and boxing numbers are kicking the living crap out of UFC since your fad year.:lol

Thanks. You proved you're an idiot. What boxing numbers are kicking the crap out of UFC? You say it, but i'm not seeing any proof. Go troll somewhere else.

[LEONARD]

LOL...damn people, stop quoting this guy so I don't have to see what he's spewing... :lol

Dana is the authority on non-UFC org's now? :lol

It's almost 2008? Ok...and it's been just 9 months since the 2006 "fad" numbers came out...how about you wait another 3 or 4 months for the 2007 numbers before you start talking about 2008? And I too am curious what you're basing your statements on. How do you know how much PPV $ the UFC has pulled in?? Or boxing for that matter??

You said boxing will double the UFC this year too...I won't forget that...it's bookmarked... :lol

[LEONARD]

Kotani vs Siver (un-aired undercard)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/o1oeqr

[dallaskd]

No way is it possible boxing will DOUBLE MMA ppv numbers.

[LEONARD]

Damn...good fight between Siver and Kotani. Nice job getting out of the early triangle by Siver...

Would like to see more of Siver... :ihit