Taylor vs. Pavlik 9/29

[cornbread]

TAYLOR DEFENDS TITLE AGAINST PAVLIK, SEPTEMBER 29TH ON HBO WCB

Undisputed and Undefeated World Middleweight Champion Jermain "Bad Intentions" Taylor will make the fifth defense of his two-year title reign when he faces the stiff test of number 1 contender (WBC, WBO) Kelly "The Ghost" Pavlik on Saturday night, September 29, at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

"This is going to be a terrific fight, something that boxing really needs. The eyes of the sporting world will be watching these two great fighters in Atlantic City on Sept. 29," said Bob Arum, CEO, Top Rank.

Taylor, the favorite son of Arkansas, has successfully defended his middleweight crown against legendary Bernard Hopkins, Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma, and Cory Spinks since first taking the title from Hopkins in 2005.

HBO Sports World Championship Boxing will televise the world championship bout live at 10:15 PM ET/ 7:15 PM PT.

Taylor (27-0-1, 17 KOs) has yet to taste defeat since turning professional in 2000. Pavlik, likewise undefeated, gets his first chance at a championship on the heels of a spectacular knockout victory over Edison Miranda. No. 1 rated by both the WBC and WBO, Youngstown, Ohio's undefeated Pavlik is a bona fide knockout artist, registering 28 KOs in 31 career triumphs as a professional.

Taylor first captured the undisputed middleweight championship against the legendary Bernard Hopkins on July 17, 2005 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, NV, with a 12 round split decision triumph, and defended the title for the first time against Hopkins on December 3, 2005 at Mandalay Bay in Vegas with a unanimous decision victory. Taylor has since defended his title twice in 2006, first in Memphis in a controversial draw against Winky Wright on June 9, and last December 9 defeating former champion Kassim Ouma in Little Rock. Cory Spinks was next on the Taylor checklist, and Jermain was up to the challenge once again with a unanimous decision triumph in Memphis on May 19.



I haven't heard much buzz about this one but I'm pretty excited about it. Pavlik via KO.

[2centsworth]

this is going to be awesome. Pavlik is coming off of an impressive win over Edison Miranda. Miranda was knocking people out left and right before he fought Pavlik.

Pavlik is 31-0 with 28 KOs. A must watch for boxing fans.

[Evan]

Full night of combat sports that night. We have this and EliteXC. Very cool!

[degenerate_gambler]

Pavlik is 31-0 with 28 KOs. A must watch for boxing fans.


I agree. This guy can take a punch as well.

[Brutalis]

JT is badass, but now he finally gets to fight someone good and not either, washed up or, obviously weaker.

Now we get to see if my boy is ferreeeal.

[SAtoDallas]

This is going to be an awsome fight Pavlik can give and take. I'm hoping Pavlik takes this and in impessive fashon. I used to be big on JT but after those gifts he got against BHop and Winky I'm ready for some new blood.

Then Oct 6 we have Pac Man/Barrera, I've got Pac taking it but you never can count Barrera out.

Oct 13th you have Diaz/Diaz I'm rooting for the little Texan.

Nov 3 Calzaghe/Kessler still undecided on that one.

Nov 10 Mosley/Cotto I think the youth of Cotto will prevail

man boxing is in good shape contrary to popular belief.

[cornbread]

This Saturday...

[degenerate_gambler]

This Saturday...


yep.


just the first in a series of very, very good year-end fights.


I think Pavlik wins a unanimous deciscion.

[SAtoDallas]

Three more days!

[TheTruth]

It's on tonight. Pavlik hits like a mule. Taylor better be ready.

[atxrocker]

taylor got knocked the fuck out

[dbreiden83080]

Hell of a fight can't wait for the rematch!!

[slayermin]

That was a great fight. Pavlik is wiry strong. Hope the rematch is a sure thing.

[2centsworth]

WOW! Awesome fight. Pavlik is the badass whiteboy I've ever seen.

[cornbread]

Pavlik!

[SAtoDallas]

The Ghost showed some balls got up off the canvas in the 2nd and knocked Tayor out in the 7th awsome fight, can't wait for the rematch.

[LEONARD]

Sounds like it was a good one...I'll have to download it and check it out...

Bob Arum: Pavlik’s win a “blow to the UFC”
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/01/bob-arum-pavliks-win-a-blow-to-the-ufc/

While boxing has someone in Pavlik that could bring new fans to the sport, promoter Bob Arum may have went overboard with this one quote that appears at BoxingScene.com:

“I just think that he’s going to revive boxing in the Midwest and it’s going to spread to the rest of the country. I’ll tell you, this was the biggest blow to the UFC since the sort of competition began because all the young kids are going to come back to boxing. There is nothing in UFC or any of this martial arts bullsh*t that compares to this.”

This is just another in a long line of statements about MMA from Arum that are completely delusional. Pavlik’s win was great for the boxing business but it will in no way have an adverse effect on the UFC and MMA.

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These boxing guys keep talking about this "fad" that peaked in 2006 a lot...

[degenerate_gambler]

Sounds like it was a good one...I'll have to download it and check it out...

Bob Arum: Pavlik’s win a “blow to the UFC”
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/01/bob-arum-pavliks-win-a-blow-to-the-ufc/

While boxing has someone in Pavlik that could bring new fans to the sport, promoter Bob Arum may have went overboard with this one quote that appears at BoxingScene.com:

“I just think that he’s going to revive boxing in the Midwest and it’s going to spread to the rest of the country. I’ll tell you, this was the biggest blow to the UFC since the sort of competition began because all the young kids are going to come back to boxing. There is nothing in UFC or any of this martial arts bullsh*t that compares to this.”

This is just another in a long line of statements about MMA from Arum that are completely delusional. Pavlik’s win was great for the boxing business but it will in no way have an adverse effect on the UFC and MMA.

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These boxing guys keep talking about this "fad" that peaked in 2006 a lot...



Arum's a tool. I'm not an either/or guy. There's room for both boxing and MMA. While I've watched some MMA, it's just not for me but I'm not gonna bad mouth it.

Arum just sees $$$ being taken out of his pockets because casual boxing fans have gotten tired of not seeing elite boxers fighting other elite boxers.

That said, these last 3 months of the year have some fantastic, competitive on paper fights coming up which the sport badly needs.

[2centsworth]

Arum's a tool. I'm not an either/or guy. There's room for both boxing and MMA. While I've watched some MMA, it's just not for me but I'm not gonna bad mouth it.

Arum just sees $$$ being taken out of his pockets because casual boxing fans have gotten tired of not seeing elite boxers fighting other elite boxers.

That said, these last 3 months of the year have some fantastic, competitive on paper fights coming up which the sport badly needs.
:tu

though it sounds like I like MMA more than you do.

[LEONARD]

:tu

though it sounds like I like MMA more than you do.

"MMA" and "fan" shouldn't be used in the same sentence by you IMO...

[2centsworth]

"MMA" and "fan" shouldn't be used in the same sentence by you IMO...
I'm a fan of MMA, but not a fan of their fans on this message board.

It could be typical of all MMA fans, I don't know, but the ones on here have an artificially inflated ego about their sport. I like to knock them down a little bit with facts.

If the MMA fans on this board would respect boxing or at least the boxing threads created on this board, and then I would have no problems giving MMA serious props.


If not, I'll continue to poke fun.

[LEONARD]

:lol

I see I see...you're just doing a bit...of course! :lol

Knockdown with facts? You say that boxing generates more revenue, but when the FACTS show that that is NOT the case, you claim that 2006 was a "fad year" for MMA. (I'm not sure how your OPINION that it was a "fad year" changes the FACT that boxing did not generate more revenue in 2006?)

and since that "fad year" you say that "boxing numbers are kicking the living crap out of UFC"...but you present no facts? Maybe because 2007 isn't done yet and nobody knows? You're stating your OPINION...

You've also given your OPINION that boxing PPVS will double the UFC this year...

You said the Rampage vs Henderson fight was a joke...sorry, but you're not a fan of the sport if you didn't enjoy that fight...

You also contradict yourself...you say that boxing is bigger, but last April you said...

as a whole MMA is definitely more popular than boxing in the US, so i'm not going to argue that.

:dizzy

[atxrocker]

every single fucking time.... a thread about boxing turns into a boxing/mma discussion. tired of this bullshit.

[Evan]

wOOt!

[2centsworth]

:lol

I see I see...you're just doing a bit...of course! :lol

Knockdown with facts? You say that boxing generates more revenue, but when the FACTS show that that is NOT the case, you claim that 2006 was a "fad year" for MMA. (I'm not sure how your OPINION that it was a "fad year" changes the FACT that boxing did not generate more revenue in 2006?)
I think Delahoya Mayweather provided a huge headstart. Also, even according to your own link to 2006 numbers, live ticket sales are higher in boxing.


and since that "fad year" you say that "boxing numbers are kicking the living crap out of UFC"...but you present no facts? Maybe because 2007 isn't done yet and nobody knows? You're stating your OPINION...
10 years from now you'll still be harping on the good ol 2006. That's an opinion supported by a lot of facts that I have posted.


You've also given your OPINION that boxing PPVS will double the UFC this year... Again, Delahoya mayweather did 2.2, barrera marquez did 450k, cotto judah did 300k, plus all the fights you have till the end of the year. I don't think it's going to be close with those facts to support me.


You said the Rampage vs Henderson fight was a joke...sorry, but you're not a fan of the sport if you didn't enjoy that fight... neither man took risk. boring...Mayweatheresque.


You also contradict yourself...you say that boxing is bigger, but last April you said... that's some scary stuff that your obsesssed with me that much, but again you proved my genius again. Last April MMA was more popular. Hell I predicted 2006 success!!!!


Get some help Leonard.

[LEONARD]

I think Delahoya Mayweather provided a huge headstart. Also, even according to your own link to 2006 numbers, live ticket sales are higher in boxing. 10 years from now you'll still be harping on the good ol 2006. That's an opinion supported by a lot of facts that I have posted. Again, Delahoya mayweather did 2.2, barrera marquez did 450k, cotto judah did 300k, plus all the fights you have till the end of the year. I don't think it's going to be close with those facts to support me.

So live ticket sales are the barometer now? :dizzy

and like I said...we don't know anything because UFC revenues won't be out til the end of '07.

Good ole 2006...you're probably right... :lol


neither man took risk. boring...Mayweatheresque.

Didn't take risk? WTF? Explain that please...

Maybe you'd prefer that they just "stand and trade" until one gets KO'd...THAT is how MMA should be, right? None of that gay ground humping stuff.


that's some scary stuff that your obsesssed with me that much, but again you proved my genius again. Last April MMA was more popular. Hell I predicted 2006 success!!!! Get some help Leonard.

If doing a quick search = obsessed, then I'm guilty. I knew you said it and it took 2 min's to find...

You predicted 2006's success? I guess I missed that...

I'm glad I can continue to prove your genius to the world...

[LEONARD]

and why are you ripping on Mayweather for being boring? You had high hopes for Oscar vs Floyd...


This will be a classic with Oscar getting knocked down once or twice. However, I predict he knocks Floyd down too and it goes down to the wire with Oscar eventually knocking Floyd out.

The $2.2M from that boxing match will probably make the "UFC vs Boxing" numbers close this year though. It's just a shame that so many wasted their money on that one match...

[2centsworth]

you're starting to bore me and it should be obvious to everyone that you're green with envy. Plus, I don't have time to make you cry and put me on ignore.

[cornbread]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpPVsU7xhE

The last round. The punch at 3:45 is brutal!

[LEONARD]

you're starting to bore me and it should be obvious to everyone that you're green with envy

of course...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpPVsU7xhE

The last round. The punch at 3:45 is brutal!

:fro

[dallaskd]

That was by far one of the best boxing matches ive ever seen. im glad it ended in KO cus those judges are wack. i wish all boxing fights could be that good...

[dallaskd]

Anybody have the video of the fight so i can put it on my webpage?

[dallaskd]

I just listened to my podcast and I liked what a caller said on the beatdown. He said something along the line of how hes a hardcore boxing fan and this was one of the best fights hes ever seen but once he saw the judges scoring he remembered why he stopped watching boxing. :lol he also said fights like these happen every 5-10 years in boxing and over all mma is more exciting. but to 2centsworth's credit he sounded like a young white blood thirsty male. :rolleyes

[cornbread]

Pavlik has finished over 90% of his 32 fights by KO or TKO. It's even more incredible when you consider that his only 3 fights that went the distance were in 6 and 8 round matches.

[cornbread]

New champ Pavlik leaves check behind at hotel

By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
October 2, 2007





New middleweight boxing champion Kelly Pavlik did everything he expected to do last week in Atlantic City, N.J.

He knocked out Jermain Taylor to win the WBC and WBO titles. He charmed the national media with his easy-going nature. And he made himself must-see television by putting on one of the best fights of the year.

"Pretty much everything went the way we planned it," Pavlik said Tuesday after a golf outing in his hometown of Youngstown, Ohio, where he was mobbed as if he were a rock star.

All of it went the way he planned, except for one fairly significant detail: Pavlik and his father, Mike Pavlik Sr., left Atlantic City without their paychecks.

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Pavlik earned a gross purse of $1.05 million Saturday. After the fight, the New Jersey Athletic Board of Control presented Pavlik with a check for $666,750, which represented his share of the earnings after his managers, trainers and all fees were paid.

Pavlik's father, who along with Cameron Dunkin serves as his co-manager, received $105,000 for his services.

As the co-manager, the elder Pavlik took his check and his son's on Saturday night after the title-winning effort over Taylor.

The Pavliks had checked out of the Bally's Hotel in Atlantic City on Sunday morning and were halfway to Philadelphia for their flight to Pittsburgh when Mike Pavlik was suddenly stricken.

"It's about an hour from Atlantic City to Philadelphia and we were literally halfway there when out of nowhere, it just hit me," Mike Pavlik said. "My heart stopped and I just knew I had made a big mistake."

That mistake was leaving checks totally more than three-quarters of a million dollars on a countertop leaning against the coffee pot in their hotel room. In his excitement to get home, Mike Pavlik forgot to pick up the checks.

"I think I gave that maid probably the best tip she ever got," he said, forcing a laugh. The new champion took the news as he takes pretty much everything else: Calmly and without a lot of excitement.

He rarely gets nervous or upset, even with some of boxing's hardest punchers coming after him, and he didn't seem particularly bothered that the largest payday of his seven-year pro career had been misplaced.

"A check that big, it was going to be pretty difficult for someone to be able to cash it," he said. "I figured that somehow or other, we'd manage to either get it back or get a new one. My Dad might have been a little worried, but I wasn't too upset."

Dunkin reached Top Rank publicist Lee Samuels, who was on a private jet flying to Las Vegas along with Top Rank chairman Bob Arum and president Todd duBoef, via cellular telephone. When Samuels explained the problem, Arum agreed to stop payment on the check and issue another, though it wasn't entirely a new situation to the 75-year-old Hall of Fame promoter.

"I have never had a guy leave it in the room before, so Kelly wins a prize for that, but I've had guys lose them," Arum said. "Julio Cesar Chavez used to go out and party after fights and I can remember a lot of times he'd call me and tell me he couldn't find his check. But at least Kelly got the money he deserved."

The lost check was only part of Pavlik's adventure on his way home. Once the SUV Pavlik was riding in hit the Ohio border, he was met by a phalanx of police cars and fire trucks that gave him an official escort home to Youngstown.

Pavlik's SUV dropped into the middle of that sea of what he estimated were 30 police cars and fire trucks and made a triumphant return home.

"The support I get from the people here has always been great," Kelly Pavlik said. "But this was pretty incredible. It was nice to have those guys there for me and it made the win a little bit more special."

Mike Pavlik would like to tell people that the police were there to help protect him as he carried the large check home.

But he knows he's going to get a bad time from members of Team Pavlik for a long time to come.

"This isn't the last time this is going to come up, I'm pretty certain," Mike Pavlik said.

"We went there like it was just another fight. We did our thing the way we always do, but this one turned out to be a little more memorable in more ways than one."

More: Iole: Pavlik dethrones Taylor.


Kevin Iole covers boxing and mixed martial arts for Yahoo! Sports. Send Kevin a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.

[2centsworth]

I just listened to my podcast and I liked what a caller said on the beatdown. He said something along the line of how hes a hardcore boxing fan and this was one of the best fights hes ever seen but once he saw the judges scoring he remembered why he stopped watching boxing. :lol he also said fights like these happen every 5-10 years in boxing and over all mma is more exciting. but to 2centsworth's credit he sounded like a young white blood thirsty male. :rolleyesPavlik vs. Taylor will go down as one of the legendary fights. Top 20 in my book.

To say good fights happen every 5-10 years is more MMA fan hysteria. This year alone there have been some really good fights. Pavlik vs Meranda was a really good fight and Cotto vs. Judah was excellent.

The rest of this year is going to be sweet.



btw, if you're interested in seeing more of what you saw this weekend keep an eye on boxing for the rest of the year.

[degenerate_gambler]

Pavlik has finished over 90% of his 32 fights by KO or TKO. It's even more incredible when you consider that his only 3 fights that went the distance were in 6 and 8 round matches.


Dude has heavy hands...

[LEONARD]

Dana White bet on Taylor...
http://mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=6&TID=1139923&FID=1

[2centsworth]

Dana White bet on Taylor...
http://mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=6&TID=1139923&FID=1
quality post.

[LEONARD]

I thought so...it's not every day that Dana gets on an MMA forum and argues with posters about fighter pay, boxing, etc and reveals who he bet on in a big boxing match...

[BacktoBasics]

Great fight. The last two to three years have produced some very memorable matches. The less they do PPV the better.