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Yonivore
12-13-2004, 05:27 PM
...The President that just keeps on giving...(kind of like V.D. being the gift that just keeps on giving).


CITY, FED PROBES EYE PARDONGATE BILLIONAIRE AS A 'MAJOR PLAYER' IN SADDAM'S SCAM (http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/36359.htm)

NeoConIV
12-13-2004, 05:35 PM
[QUOTE=Yonivore]...The President that just keeps on giving...(kind of like V.D. being the gift that just keeps on giving).

:lol

JoeChalupa
12-13-2004, 06:25 PM
Damn...still blaming Bill I see. :rolleyes

Hook Dem
12-13-2004, 08:23 PM
Not just a matter of blaming Bill Joe. Facts are involved. Monday, Dec. 13, 2004 10:00 a.m. EST

'Oil for Food' May Have Bankrolled Clinton Library

The investigation into the United Nations Oil for Food scandal has turned up evidence that places Pardongate fugitive Marc Rich at the center of the probe, the New York Post revealed in Monday editions.

"We think [Rich] was a major player in this - a central figure," a senior law-enforcement official told The Post.

The bombshell development raises new questions about whether some of Saddam Hussein's Oil for Food cash may have found its way into the hands of Rich's ex-wife Denise, who contributed heavily to Bill Clinton's presidential library during the years now under investigation.

A 2001 report by the House Government Reform Committee on the Rich clemency deal established that fugitive billionaire had been dealing with Saddam since the early 1990s - a fact that was well known to the CIA and other U.S. law enforcement agencies.

The report detailed loans by Rich directly to Saddam in violation of U.N. sanctions. The Iraqi dictator would later repay the well-connected crook with preferential treatment on oil prices.

Investigators told the Post they have received information that Rich and Ben Pollner, a New York-based oil trader who heads Taurus Oil, put together deals between Saddam and his international supporters as part of the Oil for Food scam.

When it became known in January 2001 that the ex-president had pardoned Rich, probers immediately zeroed in on his ex-wife Denise, who had donated more than $1 million to Democratic campaigns - including Hillary Clinton's first Senate race - during the same period that Mr. Rich was doing business with Saddam.

Rich's ex also ponied up $450,000 for Clinton's library and donated the max to the Clintons' defense fund.

During public testimony before Congress in February 2001, Denise Rich invoked her fifth amendment right against self incrimination, raising prosecutors' suspicions that she was covering up the money trail between her husband and the White House.

A criminal investigation by the U.S. Attorney for New York's Southern District into the Rich clemency deal is officially still underway, though many believe the probe has fizzled under pressure from the Bush White House - which is said to fear that any indictments would be regarded as a political vendetta.

But new probes into Rich's role in Oil for Food could put the spotlight back on Clinton, who said during a recent interview about the opening of his library that the only thing he regretted about pardoning the fugitive billionaire was that it was misconstrued by the media.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/12/13/101107.shtml

Yonivore
12-14-2004, 02:22 PM
And, in typical Clinton fashion, the pardon may have been bought, by Rich's ex-wife, with s-e-x! OMG!

Duff McCartney
12-14-2004, 02:31 PM
He's still the man.

Yonivore
12-14-2004, 02:34 PM
He's still the man.
Yeah, the pride of any trailer park or Moose Lodge.

smeagol
12-14-2004, 03:53 PM
It's amazing how the people on the left find anything and everything Bush does appalling . . . and the people on the right the same thing with Clinton.

Yonivore
12-14-2004, 04:31 PM
It's amazing how the people on the left find anything and everything Bush does appalling . . . and the people on the right the same thing with Clinton.
Equally amazing is that one side has reason to be appalled and the other doesn't.

smeagol
12-14-2004, 04:34 PM
Equally amazing is that one side has reason to be appalled and the other doesn't.
Yonivore:

Extremes are usually bad.

Saying eveything Bush does is good does not make sense because he, as any human being, is not perfect. He makes mistakes.

The same logic applies to teh things Clinton does.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Yonivore
12-14-2004, 04:44 PM
Yonivore:

Extremes are usually bad.

Saying eveything Bush does is good does not make sense because he, as any human being, is not perfect. He makes mistakes.

The same logic applies to teh things Clinton does.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
How diplomatic of you.

Bush would have to do a whole lot of illegal, ill-advised, treacherous, and downright scummy shit before the needle ever even thinks about pointing to "somewhere in the middle."

smeagol
12-14-2004, 05:52 PM
How diplomatic of you.

Not really. The fact is, given that I'm not and American, I don't get that emotional about politics.


Bush would have to do a whole lot of illegal, ill-advised, treacherous, and downright scummy shit before the needle ever even thinks about pointing to "somewhere in the middle."

A lot of people would argue about the way Bush handles foreign policy. I'm not one of them, although I don't agree with the war in Iraq.

But we digress.

I still don't understand why the right trashes every single thing Clinton did or does (not only the illegal, ill-advised, treacherous, and downright scummy . . . everything). Its not that the US was doing so bad in the 90s. If you listen to Sean Hannity, Clinton is as close as you can get to the devil himself.

Same thing applies to the left with Bush. According to Fatso Moore, everything Bush does is shit.

Again, neither Hannity nor Moore.