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Nbadan
09-03-2007, 04:40 AM
A 12-term Democratic senator became convinced by 03' pre-war W.H. spin that had already been largely debunked by the media...and you wonder why the Demos are incapable of stopping the Bush regime....


http://www.takebackthemedia.com/images/drone3.jpg
'Almost' like the real Iraqi Drones

Fake Photos Helped Lead U.S. to Invade Iraq
by Walter Brasch Page 1 of 1 page(s)


In a town hall meeting in Bloomsburg, Pa., this week, Rep. Paul Kanjorski, a 12-term congressman, said that shortly before Congress was scheduled to vote on authorizing military force against Iraq, top officials of the CIA showed select members of Congress three photographs it alleged were Iraqi Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), better known as drones. Kanjorski said he was told that the drones were capable of carrying nuclear, biological, or chemical agents, and could strike 1,000 miles inland of east coast or west coast cities.

Kanjorski said he and four or five other congressmen in the room were told there may be drones on freighters headed to the U.S. Both secretary of state Condoleezza Rice and President Bush wandered into and out of the briefing room, Kanjorski said.

Kanjorski said it was the second time he was called to the White House for a briefing. He had opposed giving the President the powers to go to war, and said that he hadn’t changed his mind after a first meeting. Until he saw the pictures, Kanjorski said, “I hadn’t thought that Iraq was a threat.” That second meeting changed everything. After he left that meeting, said Kanjorski, he was willing to give the President the authorization he wanted since the drones “represented an imminent danger.”

Kanjorski said he went to see Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.), a retired Marine colonel. Murtha, said Kanjorski, “turned white” when told about the drones; Murtha, a former intelligence officer, believed that such information was classified.

Several years later, Kanjorski said he learned that the pictures were “a god-damned lie,” apparently taken by CIA photographers in the desert in the southwest of the U.S. The drone story itself had already been disproved, although not many major media carried that story.

In October 2002, President Bush said in Cincinnati that “Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological; weapons across broad areas.” He said that he was concerned “that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs for missions targeting the United States.” In that same speech, he claimed, “Iraq possesses ballistic missiles with a likely range of hundreds of miles—far enough to strike Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, and other nations—in a region where more than 135,000 American civilians and service members live and work.” Bush further claimed, “Surveillance photos reveal that the regime is rebuilding facilities that it had used to produce chemical and biological weapons.” Those claims were later proven false.

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) said that at the time the President made his speech, intelligence analysts had already discounted that threat. Nelson had told Florida Today in December 2003 that no analysts had “found anything that resembles an UAV that has that capability.” Any drones that Iraq did have, John Pike, director of Global Security, a major military and intelligence “think tank,” told Florida Today, had limited range, and would not be able to target Tel Aviv, let alone the U.S.

Nelson, on the floor of the Senate in January 2004, said that the information presented by the Administration was crucial in getting him and others to authorize a pre-emptive strike.


Walter Brasch is an award-winning journalist and university professor. His current books are America's Unpatriotic Acts: The Federal Government's Violation of Constitutional and Civil Rights, and 'Unacceptable': The Federal response to Hurricane Katrina, both available at amazon.com, borders.com and most major on-line bookstores.

Wild Cobra
09-03-2007, 05:44 AM
So who did the duping? the photo is an obvious fake. Look at the different shadow lines across the UAV vs. the ground shadows.

Could this be another intentional deception by the CIA Director at the time?

"It's a slam dunk"

What gets me is how bad of a fake it is. It should have been spotted for what it is. Is congress really that dense?

Now the real question. is this really the same photo shown to congress?

ChumpDumper
09-03-2007, 05:52 AM
Look at the different shadow lines across the UAV vs. the ground shadows.I know it's a fake but I only see one shadow on the UAV cast by its own wing. The rest is paint.

And like Tenet said, his "slam dunk" characterization had no bearing on the decision to go to war.

Wild Cobra
09-03-2007, 06:24 AM
I know it's a fake but I only see one shadow on the UAV cast by its own wing. The rest is paint.
Yes, the wing shadow is cast on the body of the UAV going toward the front of it. The (added) ground shadow of the same wing is to the rear of the UAV.


And like Tenet said, his "slam dunk" characterization had no bearing on the decision to go to war.
Sorry, after the revelations i have seen regarding Tenet, I don't trust anything he says. Maybe the friend of his that died on 9/11 affected him to take things personally?

George Gervin's Afro
09-03-2007, 08:29 AM
Yes, the wing shadow is cast on the body of the UAV going toward the front of it. The (added) ground shadow of the same wing is to the rear of the UAV.


Sorry, after the revelations i have seen regarding Tenet, I don't trust anything he says. Maybe the friend of his that died on 9/11 affected him to take things personally?


Geez in your world EVERYONE is out to make Bush look bad.... Of course You have yet to hold the guy who actually started the war accountable. All f this 'shaky intel was used and you blame everyon else but the guy who actualy used it to make thecase for war.

boutons_
09-03-2007, 08:38 AM
"EVERYONE is out to make Bush look bad.."

He doesn't look bad, he is horrible.

ChumpDumper
09-03-2007, 04:33 PM
Yes, the wing shadow is cast on the body of the UAV going toward the front of it. The (added) ground shadow of the same wing is to the rear of the UAV.The wing shadow on the fuselage is curved just like the fuselage itself. I don't see any need to photohop something like this that could be simply staged.



Sorry, after the revelations i have seen regarding Tenet, I don't trust anything he says.That's exactly the way I feel about Bushie.

Wild Cobra
09-03-2007, 05:53 PM
The wing shadow on the fuselage is curved just like the fuselage itself. I don't see any need to photohop something like this that could be simply staged.
Yes, but the shadows still are not right.

My assumption is that the photo is likely real with the men and the background. I doubt that part was staged as the AO was likely known. The UAV is pasted in with an artificial shadow. The stands might have already been there.

It sure would be nice to see a better resolution pic. I also have a question about the wing and the rear left man, and their shadows.

ChumpDumper
09-03-2007, 06:04 PM
I don't have too many questions about the photo itself, and I don't see a congressman inspecting it too closely as it would only be one of several facts and images thrown at him during a briefing.

As for the CIA role in the run-up to the Iraq War, I would blame Tenet for not being more hands-on with some of the really critical pieces of intelligence and public presentations thereof. The preparations for a possible war in Iraq gave the actual march to war its own momentum. The armed forces and intel services were doing things in the mideast during 2002 that many thought could only be justified if the US followed through with an invasion. I am not surprised that photos were staged and other intel fabricated from whole cloth to bring the invasion to fruition.