Patriots To Unveil New Logo [Archive]

Marklar MM

09-12-2007, 05:04 PM

show me evidence of the Patriots cheating in any of their past SB seasons.

After this season, having 4 titles with one of them asterisked won't be too bad....the Spurs got the same thing :fro

You can be Detroit and have at least 2 of our NBA titles with *

Findog

09-12-2007, 05:09 PM

show me evidence of the Patriots cheating in any of their past SB seasons.

Bill Belicheck can coerce New Jersey housewives into cheating on their husbands. Forget that Shawn Rees guy, Belicheck is the original MILF Hunter!

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 05:15 PM

show me evidence of the Patriots cheating in any of their past SB seasons.

It was a joke. And I'm glad you realized how lame your title smack was.

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 05:17 PM

It was a joke. And I'm glad you realized how lame your title smack was.
It's a very easy thing to go for. I can see why Spurs fans do it so much. But it's definitely lame.

IceColdBrewski

09-12-2007, 05:26 PM

I don't know how it doesn't tarnish their legacy. The most compelling thing to me is that Goodell sent a warning to teams because of the Patriots, and the Pats still cheated on the very first game of the 2007 season. The Pats must really believe that this cheating scheme is absolutely crucial to their success if they couldn't stop doing it for even one game after the warning.

If videotaping signals wasnt a significant advantage to the Pats then you'd think they would be able to stop doing it after Goodell made it clear that it wouldn't be tolerated.

Remember in 03 and 04 when the Pats just kept winning, and everyone was sort of in awe about it because the Pats didn't have that many playmakers on either defense or on offense? They never had huge blowout games but kept winning close games and everyone just figured that Belichick was a genius, and thats why they kept winning. They went 14-2 two years in a row and won the Super Bowl those years.

Kinda makes ya wonder what other shady tactics they've used in the past doesn't it?

Dirk Nowitzki

09-12-2007, 06:42 PM

show me evidence of the Patriots cheating in any of their past SB seasons.

After this season, having 4 titles with one of them asterisked won't be too bad....the Spurs have the same thing :fro

And you call yourself a Cowboys fan? :rolleyes :rolleyes Unless you are just doing this to talk shit to the Chargers. :downspin: Nevermind saw in the other thread that you really are a Pats fan. Howl ong have you been a Pats fan? Were you ever a fan of them during the Bledsoe era? Remember the game against the Bills in 1998 when Bledsoe threw a td pass to Ben Coates as time expired? The play before that, time had expired but a pass interference pentaly was called. Were you a fan during that time. If so then I have no beef with you. But if you were a fan when Brady started playing, you are a flat out front runner.

Switchman

09-12-2007, 06:49 PM

People beginning to question the Pats titles.

Yeah. Apparently the Spurs really are the Pats of the NBA.

Dirk Nowitzki

09-12-2007, 06:52 PM

People beginning to question the Pats titles.

Yeah. Apparently the Spurs really are the Pats of the NBA.

Or the Pats are the Spurs of the NFL. Teams will throw that asterick talk around. They did it for the Spurs each title run and now the Pats are getting the smack talk thrown at them.

bigfish22

09-12-2007, 06:54 PM

spursreport

09-12-2007, 07:07 PM

show me evidence of the Patriots cheating in any of their past SB seasons.

After this season, having 4 titles with one of them asterisked won't be too bad....the Spurs have the same thing :fro

Dont even start talking about a 4th title yet. First you have to get through the team you havent beaten in 2 1/2 years. You know that team dont you? The colts ring a bell? I mean they are only the defending champs who have the best qb in the league and has figured out that son of a bitch Billicheck. Pats have to get through a team they no longer own if they even want to start talking superbowl.

Oh wait, we cant forget the Broncos either. Now that is a team who has bitchslapped the living fuck out of tom brady. Bradys only win against the Broncos was against Danny Kenel (Plummer was hurt) and you needed a last second td to just eek by. Broncos will get better as the weeks go on. They have upgraded their pass rushers and secondary, their running game and their qb. Oh yeah they also need to worry about the Chargers as well. Pats won that game thanks to the Chargers mistakes which easily could have been prevented. Pats will need the Chargers to fuck up that much again if they want to beat them.

Whisky Dog

09-12-2007, 07:41 PM

If there is ever any evidence of the Spurs cheating and being warned by the league, then reprimanded by the league? No. I don't even know how they would do that in basketball since you can tell immediately if a team is in man or zone. The Pats used to be considered the Spurs of the NFL, but now they're just the team who videos defensive signals and cheats to win. I like the Pats, but video taping signals is weak. There's no reason to do it unless you really feel you can't win without knowing your opponents plays. In football that is a huge advantage as you know every blitz or formation that's coming before the snap. You know exactly what play to call or audible to in order to get in the empty spaces and set up protection.

Whisky Dog

09-12-2007, 07:42 PM

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/underseth/Shit/patriots.jpg

That's fucking hilarious

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 07:48 PM

I wonder how many years the cheating has been going on?

Whisky Dog

09-12-2007, 07:58 PM

I wonder how many years the cheating has been going on?

How long has Belichick been there? Obviously Mangini knew about it, so obviously he was part of it at one time. I'd say since Mangini was there at the least.

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 08:09 PM

THE *TUCK* RULE
explain to me exactly how the Patriots cheated? That was a REFEREE that made that call....what the fuck are the Patriots supposed to do, say "uhhh excuse me, but we're gonna go ahead and forfeit this because it's a questionable call..."

Plus, anybody who knows the exact language of that rule knows that the rule was enforced properly.

It's kind of like the "don't leave the bench" rule in the NBA.....by the letter of the law, the NBA enforced it properly against Amare/Diaw. The Spurs certainly didn't make a stink about the "spirit of the rule" being more important than the letter of the law, and there is no fucking reason the Patriots should either.

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 08:11 PM

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sorry, my computer has a filter for idiots who talk out of their ass.

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 08:14 PM

And you call yourself a Cowboys fan? :rolleyes :rolleyes Unless you are just doing this to talk shit to the Chargers. :downspin: Nevermind saw in the other thread that you really are a Pats fan. Howl ong have you been a Pats fan? Were you ever a fan of them during the Bledsoe era? Remember the game against the Bills in 1998 when Bledsoe threw a td pass to Ben Coates as time expired? The play before that, time had expired but a pass interference pentaly was called. Were you a fan during that time. If so then I have no beef with you. But if you were a fan when Brady started playing, you are a flat out front runner.
Vincent Brisby used to be my favorite receiver, I'm a fan for at least that long. As a kid I felt sorry for the Patriots cuz they always got their asses kicked. Year before Bledsoe was drafted (or somewhere around then) was when I really started following them.

Slinkyman

09-12-2007, 08:41 PM

I wonder how many years the cheating has been going on?

Just like i wonder how long Merriman has been using.

rr2418

09-12-2007, 08:44 PM

I'm a huge Cowboy fan, but I also like the Pats. I think there are still the Spurs of the NFL(in a good way). Was it cool what the Pats did? No! I'm sure "every team" video tapes their opponents signals or use some other means to gain an advantage. Should there be an asterick next to their SB's? NO! They won with defense, team work, and a great QB. Take the Spurs for example, the years they've won the title. Did they have the best "players" in the league? Nope! They had one of the best players in Tim Duncan, but player for player they don't have the best. They win with good defense, team work, and having one of the best coaches in Greg Popovich. Again, good old fashion ball! Every team tries to cheat or steal the other teams signal or else the coaches wouldn't cover their mouths when calling plays!

Whisky Dog

09-12-2007, 09:07 PM

I'm sure "every team" video tapes their opponents signals or use some other means to gain an advantage.

Uh, No. Every team doesn't video tape the opponents bench, that's why this is so, so bad. Every team may try to look for signals, but they don't assign a guy to zoom in and video tape the signals to then decifer them and know exactly what they mean. There may be other teams that have done it, but the Patriots are the ones who got caught and should be punished and have their titles questioned due to the cheating. If Bonds has his titles questioned due to evidence of cheating then the Patriots should as well.

Fillmoe

09-12-2007, 09:18 PM

http://www.kukoda.com/wp-content/lombardi_trophy3.jpg http://www.kukoda.com/wp-content/lombardi_trophy3.jpg http://www.kukoda.com/wp-content/lombardi_trophy3.jpg

http://www.49ers.com/nm_files/Image/news/misc_pages/trophy_140.jpg

minus the cheating.... so go eat a dick

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 09:34 PM

http://www.49ers.com/nm_files/Image/news/misc_pages/trophy_140.jpg

minus the cheating.... so go eat a dickMono's don't need rust remover though.

Fillmoe

09-12-2007, 09:41 PM

http://www.emmitt22.com/gifs/empty-case.jpg

chargers trophy case..... if you look real close you can see merrimans steroid needles

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 09:50 PM

Knew the empty trophy case picture was coming, thought you'd have something better.

J.T.

09-12-2007, 10:12 PM

Knew the empty trophy case picture was coming, thought you'd have something better.

LT has that MVP so its not 100% empty.

Fillmoe

09-12-2007, 10:16 PM

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/294/beliringsiw8.jpg

Fillmoe

09-12-2007, 10:17 PM

http://bogp.com/recordingits.gif

Booharv

09-12-2007, 10:17 PM

Knew the empty trophy case picture was coming, thought you'd have something better.

How about just posting links to the Chargers starting wide receivers?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=6016

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=8475

Yowzah, that's sad. They easily have the worst starting wide outs in the league. The Jaguars receivers look like Jerry Rice and John Tayor compared to them.

I don't hate the Pats so I'm not trying to put an asterisk besides their rings, but is mono a Cowboys fan or a Pats fan? He started the Roy Williams thread but he's defending the Pats like crazy.

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 10:18 PM

http://bogp.com/recordingits.gif

lol okay, for whatever reason that one made me laugh ^

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 10:19 PM

LT has that MVP so its not 100% empty.No one likes to count the 1964 AFL Championship either.http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smidepressed.gif

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 10:23 PM

How about just posting links to the Chargers starting wide receivers?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=6016

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=8475

Yowzah, that's sad. They easily have the worst starting wide outs in the league. The Jaguars receivers look like Jerry Rice and John Tayor compared to them.You seemed to have forgotten our #1 receiver, Antonio Gates..........silly you.

Vincent Jackson will have his chance to shine as this year's #1. Parker is injured. Craig Davis can't be expected to dominate in year one as a rookie receiver. Malcolm Floyd saw limited time last year. How you can base this entire season on recievers who didn't start last year is confusing to say the least. I'm confident in this receiving core.

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 10:24 PM

Fillmoe, where are you finding these? :lol

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 10:33 PM

You seemed to have forgotten our #1 receiver, Antonio Gates..........silly you.

Vincent Jackson will have his chance to shine as this year's #1. Parker is injured. Craig Davis can't be expected to dominate in year one as a rookie receiver. Malcolm Floyd saw limited time last year. How you can base this entire season on recievers who didn't start last year is confusing to say the least. I'm confident in this receiving core.Crap...........already had forgotten johnsmith's complaint.

Back to the topic at hand: The Cheating Patriots

Does anyone think Mangini will be suspended because he's known about this for so long? Will any past players from the SuperBowl squads come forward or is that an unwritten code among players?

Booharv

09-12-2007, 10:34 PM

You seemed to have forgotten our #1 receiver, Antonio Gates..........silly you.

Vincent Jackson will have his chance to shine as this year's #1. Parker is injured. Craig Davis can't be expected to dominate in year one as a rookie receiver. Malcolm Floyd saw limited time last year. How you can base this entire season on recievers who didn't start last year is confusing to say the least. I'm confident in this receiving core.

You know what I'm talking about. I said wide receivers, Gates is a stud their wide receivers suck hard. You have to notice that, or else you're a complete homer. Two completely unproven guys who've done nothing in their careers, look at their stats the numbers don't lie. The rest of their team is stacked their wide outs are crap.

SAtown

09-12-2007, 10:38 PM

Does anyone think Mangini will be suspended because he's known about this for so long?

No, Mangini will not be suspended for this.

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 10:38 PM

You know what I'm talking about. I said wide receivers, Gates is a stud their wide receivers suck hard. You have to notice that, or else you're a complete homer. Two completely unproven guys who've done nothing in their careers, look at their stats the numbers don't lie. The rest of their team is stacked their wide outs are crap.You must not have watched Vincent Jackson the second half of the season when he finally got to start. The guy is a stud and proved himself, reason being McCardell was let go. Floyd I'm not completely sold on yet, but he is serviceable. Every player who is getting their first shot at starting is going to be unproven, what is your point?

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 10:39 PM

No, Mangini will not be suspended for this.Even after keeping quiet about it for so long? I wouldn't be surprised to see the league suspend him for 1 game.

jaespur21

09-12-2007, 10:39 PM

Patriots aint shit

http://www.cowboysonlineproshop.com/images/products/xlarge/222127.jpg

SAtown

09-12-2007, 10:43 PM

Even after keeping quiet about it for so long? I wouldn't be surprised to see the league suspend him for 1 game.

The last thing Belidick wants to do is admit this has gone on for more than a year or so. Since it's basically Mangini that's bringing this up, it wouldn't be convinient for either. Good point though, i guess.

spursreport

09-12-2007, 10:43 PM

sorry, my computer has a filter for idiots who talk out of their ass.

Broncos are 4-1 including the playoffs against the Tom Brady Pats. Colts havent lost to the Pats since January 2005. Pats needed a fumble from an int, a long bomb on 3rd down, and a missed fg to barley win that game. How is that talking out of my ass. Even take away the chargers game, how is that talking out of my ass you stupid homer piece of shit? That isnt talking out of my ass, that is straight up facts. Stop being a homer and grow a fucking pair that I am right about that. Leave your personal opinions about me out of this. I am right on this and deep down you fucking know that. Go ahead and lie about it. You are not just lying to me but you are also lying to yourself. :rolleyes

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 10:45 PM

Broncos are 4-1 including the playoffs against the Tom Brady Pats. Colts havent lost to the Pats since January 2005. Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah blah blah
I could remove the filter, but I'd rather not. I have mad respect for the Broncos, and now grudgingly the Colts, and I've never said otherwise. That still doesn't prevent you from talking out your ass though.

J.T.

09-12-2007, 10:47 PM

Patriots aint shit

http://www.cowboysonlineproshop.com/images/products/xlarge/222127jpg

Were you even alive when they won the first two? And even if you were were you old enough to comprehend the game of football and the importance of a Super Bowl championship?

J.T.

09-12-2007, 10:49 PM

Does anybody remember that game the Patriots blew a 21-3 first half lead? Let me refresh your memory.

http://www.colts.com/images/news_photos/29_addai%5C2007_0121_ne_0634_macht.jpg

Mmmmmmm I wish I could get that game on DVD.

spursreport

09-12-2007, 10:49 PM

I could remove the filter, but I'd rather not.

Indirectly you admitted I was right otherwise you wouldnt being throwing the filter card around. It just pisses you off that I am right. I was actually hoping you would have the balls to defend my comments because I actually wanted to hear them. Oh wait you cant defend that at all.

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 10:50 PM

Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah Blah blah blah

sorry, you're not coming thru.....come in, do you have me now? I'm attempting to remove the filter.

J.T.

09-12-2007, 10:51 PM

I like Tarik Glenn's gelatinous ass trying to get up off the ground in that pic. He was a great LT but everyone who said we'd be doomed cuz he retired can go F themselves.

Dirk Nowitzki

09-12-2007, 10:52 PM

I could remove the filter, but I'd rather not. I have mad respect for the Broncos, and now grudgingly the Colts, and I've never said otherwise. That still doesn't prevent you from talking out your ass though.

Just tell spursreport that you dont see anyone beating the Pats this year. That will really set him off. It gets under his skin that Mav fans are still optimistic about their team this season. I dont understand why but it tends to really piss him off. :lol :lol

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 10:53 PM

Does anybody remember that game the Patriots blew a 21-3 first half lead? Let me refresh your memory.
Mmmmmmm I wish I could get that game on DVD.
I've got a Colts-Pats game on DVD for ya.

The one where Ty Law picked Manning off three times, then the Colts got all butthurt and whined to the league about how "wough de mean owd Patwiots defensive backs are!"

History repeats itself.......MVP gets owned by Patriots in the playoffs, then goes crying to the media bout it. :fro

Booharv

09-12-2007, 10:56 PM

You must not have watched Vincent Jackson the second half of the season when he finally got to start. The guy is a stud and proved himself, reason being McCardell was let go. Floyd I'm not completely sold on yet, but he is serviceable. Every player who is getting their first shot at starting is going to be unproven, what is your point?

Dude they're weak as hell. Jackson hasn't even had a 100 yard game in his career, and already calling him a stud. They've both in their third season and have done nothing so far. I'll bet any NFL preview magazine, or website would list the wide receivers as the team's weakness. You're a complete homer when it comes to this team. Just admit it. Next you're going to tell me how Norv Turner is going to outcoach people this year.

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 10:56 PM

Just tell spursreport that you dont see anyone beating the Pats this year. That will really set him off. It gets under his skin that Mav fans are still optimistic about their team this season. I dont understand why but it tends to really piss him off. :lol :lol
:lol sounds good

Patriots: 16-0, 3-0, 2008 Super Bowl Champions. Those old ass Dolphins players crap their pants and cry.
seriously.

Dirk Nowitzki

09-12-2007, 10:58 PM

:lol sounds good

Patriots: 16-0, 3-0, 2008 Super Bowl Champions. Those old ass Dolphins players crap their pants and cry.
seriously.

:lmao :lmao :lmao You just ruined his night. :clap :clap

rr2418

09-12-2007, 11:00 PM

Uh, No. Every team doesn't video tape the opponents bench, that's why this is so, so bad. Every team may try to look for signals, but they don't assign a guy to zoom in and video tape the signals to then decifer them and know exactly what they mean. There may be other teams that have done it, but the Patriots are the ones who got caught and should be punished and have their titles questioned due to the cheating. If Bonds has his titles questioned due to evidence of cheating then the Patriots should as well.

Uh, how do you know? Well, you don't! We don't know how many teams use this tactic. Do I think it was wrong? Sure I do!! Like you said that Pats are the ones that got caught, but it doesn't mean that no other team does the same. No one knows how long the Pats been doing the video taping, so it's dumb to question their SB victories. Have to get some sleep but the Bonds situation is a totally different bag of worms. :rolleyes

atxrocker

09-12-2007, 11:04 PM

http://bogp.com/recordingits.gif

:lmao

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 11:06 PM

Dude they're weak as hell. Jackson hasn't even had a 100 yard game in his career, and already calling him a stud. They've both in their third season and have done nothing so far. I'll bet any NFL preview magazine, or website would list the wide receivers as the team's weakness. You're a complete homer when it comes to this team. Just admit it. Next you're going to tell me how Norv Turner is going to outcoach people this year.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0709/breakout.stars.nfl/content.3.html
Patriots suck.

SAtown

09-12-2007, 11:07 PM

Mmmmmmm I wish I could get that game on DVD.

You can, my friend...

monosylab1k

09-12-2007, 11:11 PM

speaking of dvd, are they releasing the rest of the America's Game DVD's? They did for their "top 20 Super Bowl Champions" but I really want the other 2 Patriots years on DVD as well.

America's Game is easily the best sports show on TV. Not even just the Patriots titles, I love watching all of them.

J.T.

09-12-2007, 11:12 PM

You can, my friend...

Did they release a Colts championship package that has all 4 games? Because the SB DVD just has like a 20 minute recap of the AFC Championship. Good...but I'd like every down of every quarter.

Edit: Holy shit, how did I miss that? Easiest 30 bucks I ever spent.

SAtown

09-12-2007, 11:15 PM

Did they release a Colts championship package that has all 4 games? Because the SB DVD just has like a 20 minute recap of the AFC Championship. Good...but I'd like every down of every quarter.

Edit: Holy shit, how did I miss that? Easiest 30 bucks I ever spent.

Check pm

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927

09-12-2007, 11:16 PM

Vincent Jackson showed flashes last year, but it's an enormous stretch to call him a proven stud.

He should breakout considering he'll be drawing single coverage on most plays...

Whisky Dog

09-12-2007, 11:39 PM

Uh, how do you know? Well, you don't! We don't know how many teams use this tactic. Do I think it was wrong? Sure I do!! Like you said that Pats are the ones that got caught, but it doesn't mean that no other team does the same. No one knows how long the Pats been doing the video taping, so it's dumb to question their SB victories. Have to get some sleep but the Bonds situation is a totally different bag of worms. :rolleyes

It's not a stretch to understand that if every team in the NFL was doing this it would have come out a long, long time ago. For one, with such a controversial practice there are always going to be people who would blow the whistle and not go along if everyone knew about it. Secondly, other teams had been complaining about the Pats for a while now and the complaints were enough for the commish to warn every team before the season. If every team was doing this then nobody would have been complaining or blowing the whistle because they would have been just as dirty. Obviously there were teams that were not doing this, and by looking at the evidence and the fact that this is just now coming out I would guess that the majority of the league doesn't do this. Sometimes you have to use some deductive reasoning to figure things out instead of just looking at everything on the surface.

Booharv

09-12-2007, 11:44 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0709/breakout.stars.nfl/content.3.html
Patriots suck.

Who the fuck said I liked the Patriots? And if I did, saying "Patriots suck" would qualify as the lamest insult I could think of.

Here's several articles saying the Chargers receivers need improvement:

"It has all the pieces in place for another Super Bowl run except for a No.1 WR."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2800837

"Three Burning Questions

Do the Chargers have enough offensive firepower at WR to get over the hump this season?
One of the biggest reasons San Diego lost to New England in the playoffs was marginal play at wide receiver. Eric Parker has been a starter, but he should be a No. 3 at best. Vincent Jackson improved last season, but he needs to be more consistent. The wild card will be rookie Craig Davis. Even though young receivers take some time to develop, the Chargers need him to make solid contributions if this offense is going to take that final step."

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/insider/news/story?id=2931741

Also ESPN's scouting staff has their highest wide out ranked 46th in the league among wide receivers. And this is not for fantasy football, it's a ranking if how good each player is. I could cut and paste the whole thing if you need me to.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/scouting?position=1

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927

09-12-2007, 11:49 PM

Any list, even from Scouts, Inc., that has Rod Smith and Jericho Cotchery over Roy Williams is bunk.

Fillmoe

09-12-2007, 11:54 PM

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d26/lardude/patsnewlogoia7Custom.jpg

jaespur21

09-12-2007, 11:57 PM

Were you even alive when they won the first two? And even if you were were you old enough to comprehend the game of football and the importance of a Super Bowl championship?

27 years old and i used to be a patriot fan.... goin into their first super bowl i was rootin for them. even when they lost to the packers. many years ago. ASK MY 5 brothers. BUT this past decade they have disusted me and i cant approve of the NFL PATRIOTS

TheSanityAnnex

09-12-2007, 11:59 PM

Who the fuck said I liked the Patriots? And if I did, saying "Patriots suck" would qualify as the lamest insult I could think of.That was at the request of johnsmith. Had you opened it, you would have figured that out.

One of the biggest reasons San Diego lost to New England in the playoffs was marginal play at wide receiver. Not even close to a reason.
1. headbutt after a stop on 3rd down, auto 1st down
2. fumbled ball on routine punt return catch
3. ball fumbled after would be game ending interception.

It will be fun to watch this game on Sunday. I expect to see this same matchup in the playoffs.

Erect as a Bull

09-13-2007, 12:39 AM

LOL. Chargers will never win a ring so that Trophey Case will be empty for quite some time.

Heres another picture of Tom:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o61/Portis26AnimatedPics/tom150ci0.png

Booharv

09-13-2007, 12:52 AM

Any list, even from Scouts, Inc., that has Rod Smith and Jericho Cotchery over Roy Williams is bunk.

Dude, I'll admit the list has some flaws, but the point is their wide outs are suspect at best, and this dude is such a homer he refuses to admit it. He's like the Spurs fans who are saying the 90s Bulls would have no chance against the 07 Spurs.

Not even close to a reason.
1. headbutt after a stop on 3rd down, auto 1st down
2. fumbled ball on routine punt return catch
3. ball fumbled after would be game ending interception.

It will be fun to watch this game on Sunday. I expect to see this same matchup in the playoffs.

Their wide outs had 4 catches for 85 yards in that game.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=270114024

TheSanityAnnex

09-13-2007, 01:15 AM

Their wide outs had 4 catches for 85 yards in that game.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=270114024Thanks for the stats, let's look at them.

Using your reasoning, we can also then conclude the Patriots receiving core sucks. Brady had 51 attempts and only accumulated 280 yards, compared to Rivers 32 attempts and 230 yards. Quite a bit more passing done by New England, and not very many more yards. Suspect receiving core?

Another reason your reasoning is flawed.........when you have Tomlinson and Gates as key components of your receiving game, other receivers will not be thrown to as much, which leads to less yards.

If you want to look at individual game stats the answer me this: Reche Caldwell has a wonderful game vs. the Chargers scoring a huge touchdown and averaging 11.4 yards per catch, plus......he has big eyes and can see the ball better than the average receiver. Why was Caldwell cut from the team then? Why will he be on his third team in three years? His stats in the game show you good of a receiver he is. :shootme

Booharv

09-13-2007, 01:27 AM

Thanks for the stats, let's look at them.

Using your reasoning, we can also then conclude the Patriots receiving core sucks. Brady had 51 attempts and only accumulated 280 yards, compared to Rivers 32 attempts and 230 yards. Quite a bit more passing done by New England, and not very many more yards. Suspect receiving core?

Another reason your reasoning is flawed.........when you have Tomlinson and Gates as key components of your receiving game, other receivers will not be thrown to as much, which leads to less yards.

If you want to look at individual game stats the answer me this: Reche Caldwell has a wonderful game vs. the Chargers scoring a huge touchdown and averaging 11.4 yards per catch, plus......he has big eyes and can see the ball better than the average receiver. Why was Caldwell cut from the team then? Why will he be on his third team in three years? His stats in the game show you good of a receiver he is. :shootme

The Pats receiving core did suck, that's why they spent tons of money to get new players. Never said it didn't. The whole point is you've got a very good team but you're such a homer you refuse to admit it has any weaknesses at all. Their receivers are spotty at best. Would it kill you to admit this?

TheSanityAnnex

09-13-2007, 01:38 AM

The Pats receiving core did suck, that's why they spent tons of money to get new players. Never said it didn't. The whole point is you've got a very good team but you're such a homer you refuse to admit it has any weaknesses at all. Their receivers are spotty at best. Would it kill you to admit this?If I admitted that I'd be lying.
I really feel Vincent Jackson will be a very solid #1, and I don't seem to be the only one.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mu.../content.3.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0709/breakout.stars.nfl/content.3.html)
Malcolm Floyd will surprise a lot of people as well. Craig Davis could also be a classic AJ Smith steal. Parker is a very good possession receiver. I don't assume you watch the Chargers as much as I do, so I don't expect you to know as much as I do or be as confident as I am. You remind me of the people last year that laughed at me when I predicted Phillip Rivers to be a stud.