**Official** UFC Fight Night 11 Thread - Wed on Spike

[LEONARD]

Big week on Spike... (all times central)

Wed @ 7:00 - New episode of UFC Unleashed
Wed @ 8:00 - UFC Fight Night 11 (LIVE)
Wed @ 10:00 - Premiere of TUF 6
Thurs @ 10:00 - Countdown to UFC 76
Thurs @ 11:00 - All Access: Forrest Griffin

UFC Fight Night 11 - Wed Night on Spike

Main Card
Kenny Florian vs. Din Thomas
Junior Assuncao vs. Nate Diaz
Chris Leben vs. Terry Martin
Nate Quarry vs. Pete Sell

UNDERCARD
Jonathan Goulet vs. Dustin Hazelett
Leonard Garcia vs. Cole Miler
Gray Maynard vs. Joe Veres
Thiago Alves vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Edilberto Crocota vs. Luke Cummo

I really like a lot of these matchups, even on the undercard.

Din Thomas is the perfect test for Florian. Everytime I doubt Florian he shows improvement in his next fight. But I think Din will take this and be right up there with Joe Stevenson for a LW title shot.

Tough test for Nate in his first fight since TUF 5. I think Nate still needs some time to get stronger (he was fortunate that Manny hurt his shoulder).

Terry Martin should murder Leben. I think Martin is getting close to a MW title shot. One more fight after Leben against a better opponent and he'll be there.

It's nice to see Quarry back...have to root for a guy like him. Tough fight to pick, especially since we don't know how Quarry will look after back surgery, but I'm going with Nate...mainly because I'd like to see him win...

Cole Miller and his brother Micah (who fights in the WEC) have both been doing triathlons with the Diaz brothers, so Cole will certainly be in great shape. I think Cole will make the fight very interesting with his constant sub attempts and reach advantage standing, but I'm going with Garcia.

Going with Veres to upset Maynard... :dizzy:

UFCMania Preview/Picks
http://ufcmania.com/2007/09/17/ufc-fight-night-11-quick-preview-analysis-and-predictions/

[Evan]

nice card...

Main Card
Kenny Florian vs. Din Thomas (K-Flo becoming into a nice LW)

Junior Assuncaovs . Nate Diaz (Nate is so young but his brother started at this age)

Chris Leben vs. Terry Martin (I want to vomit in my mouth picking him)

Nate Quarry vs. Pete Sell (........hows that back Nate..........)

UNDERCARD
Jonathan Goulet vs. Dustin Hazelett (....Goulet asked for my phone number...lol...weird....must have been a mistake...must have been a diff Evan..)

Leonard Garcia vs. Cole Miler (I had an interview with Garcia and never did it...I suck........:bang)

Gray Maynard vs. Joe Veres (Gray is a solid up and comer)

Thiago Alves vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka

Edilberto Crocota vs. Luke Cummo (Ultra creep factor here with these two)

[Evan]

You guys know Luke Cummo drinks his urine?

hehehe.......weird dude.

[desflood]

Kenny Florian vs. Din Thomas
Junior Assuncao vs. Nate Diaz
Chris Leben vs. Terry Martin
Nate Quarry vs. Pete Sell

UNDERCARD
Jonathan Goulet vs. Dustin Hazelett
Leonard Garcia vs. Cole Miler
Gray Maynard vs. Joe Veres
Thiago Alves vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Edilberto Crocota vs. Luke Cummo

Hmmm. Looks like column B scores pretty low today :lol

[Evan]

hahaha....nice sig

[LEONARD]

:lol


You guys know Luke Cummo drinks his urine?

hehehe.......weird dude.

LOL...yep...2 weird guys going at it...

http://fightlinker.com/?p=359

[oligarchy]

Main Card
Kenny Florian vs. Din Thomas
Junior Assuncao vs. Nate Diaz
Chris Leben vs. Terry Martin
Nate Quarry vs. Pete Sell

UNDERCARD
Jonathan Goulet vs. Dustin Hazelett
Leonard Garcia vs. Cole Miler
Gray Maynard vs. Joe Veres
Thiago Alves vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Edilberto Crocota vs. Luke Cummo

Like Evan, I can't believe I picked Chris. This is do or die for Chris and it'll show -- it's the only reason I am picking him.

[Evan]

This is do or die for Chris and it'll show -- it's the only reason I am picking him.

My exact same reasoning.

[LEONARD]

Nah...Martin is going to smash him... :ihit

[oligarchy]

Nah...Martin is going to smash him... :ihit
It's a worthwhile risk to make for a bet. Bookmaker has him at +175 in the other bet, sportsbook has Hironaka at +185. Great value bets.

[LEONARD]

Bodog odds...

Thiago Alves -220
Kuniyoshi Hironaka +180

Nate Quarry -260
Pete Sell +200

Terry Martin -210
Chris Leben +170

Kenny Florian -165
Din Thomas +135

Alves and Martin are money in the bank...Thomas and Sell are decent UD's...

but I'm retired from MMA betting :lol

[dallaskd]

Kenny Florian vs. Din Thomas
Junior Assuncao vs. Nate Diaz
Chris Leben vs. Terry Martin
Nate Quarry vs. Pete Sell

UNDERCARD
Jonathan Goulet vs. Dustin Hazelett
Leonard Garcia vs. Cole Miler
Gray Maynard vs. Joe Veres
Thiago Alves vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Edilberto Crocota vs. Luke Cummo

Im still pissed Swick is out...I cant wait for Alves to explode. Leben doesn't stand a chance. I see him out of the UFC in 2 maybe 3 fights if he's lucky.

[LEONARD]

Pre-fight videos are up...
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.video

Alves video interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1277

Din Thomas training pics
http://www.sherdog.com/news/pictures.asp?n_id=9089

[ATRAIN]

damn I cant wait for TUF premiere......GO TEAM SERRA!!!

[LEONARD]

Everybody made weight...
http://mmajunkie.com/2007/09/18/ufc-fight-night-11-weigh-in-results/

video is up
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.home

MMAHaven Preview/Picks...quite possibly the greatest preview and picks ever done??
http://www.mmahaven.com/2007/09/18/ufc-fight-night-11-preview-and-quick-picks/

Sherdog Preview/Picks
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=9107

Desert Dog's Betting Advice
http://ufcmania.com/2007/09/18/ufc-fight-night-11-betting-odds-free-tips-and-advice-from-desert-dog/

Florian article
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=9106

Quarry article
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=9100

Alves video interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1277

Assuncao video interview
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1279


Weigh-in Pics...
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=4731
http://69.46.29.2:8080/absoluteig/gallery.asp?categoryid=2645

MMAWeekly Preview/Picks
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=4732

[Evan]

MMAHaven Preview/Picks...quite possibly the greatest preview and picks ever done??
http://www.mmahaven.com/2007/09/18/ufc-fight-night-11-preview-and-quick-picks/



Hahaha…

Quite possibly the worst post ever put up on my blog………..

Just didn't have the time or motivation to do it right…….

[oligarchy]

…well….considering your bodog account balance I feel safe! hahahaah

Burn? :)

[Evan]

hehehehehehehe

[oligarchy]

Hahaha…

Quite possibly the worst post ever put up on my blog………..

Just didn't have the time or motivation to do it right…….

You know your picks changed from you blog to here? Don't believe in Goulet anymore?

[Evan]

Yeah I kept going back and forth on it. Goulet just always looks like he woke up from three days of binge drinking.

I normally don't change my mind so much but this is possibly the worst post I have ever put up as I put so little thought in it since I was so rushed.

[LEONARD]

Slacking waffler!! :lol

[oligarchy]

Yeah I kept going back and forth on it. Goulet just always looks like he woke up from three days of binge drinking.

I normally don't change my mind so much but this is possibly the worst post I have ever put up as I put so little thought in it since I was so rushed.
I don't think it was an easy card to pick. Most of the fighters are closely matched, so it makes it hard to definitively say who will win. I think it should be some really good battles. Of course, some with think boring if there isn't a knockout every single fight.

[Evan]

Yeah I don't feel strong at all on any pick but maynard.

[LEONARD]

Yeah I don't feel strong at all on any pick but maynard.

Don't sleep on Veres!!! :)

[oligarchy]

Don't sleep on Veres!!! :)

Don't sleep on Hironaka... Sig bet? :)

[LEONARD]

Don't sleep on Hironaka... Sig bet? :)

Nothing could ever replace the great SpursDynasty in my sig :lol

[oligarchy]

Nothing could ever replace the great SpursDynasty in my sig :lol
It would only have to be for a certain period of time. You said Alves was money in the bank, so it's not really a bet. :fro

[LEONARD]

Din Thomas interview on yahoo
http://mmajunkie.com/2007/09/19/ufc-fight-night-11-veteran-din-thomas-doesnt-play-bit-parts-from-yahoo-sports/

Din says he might retire if he drops out of LW title contention
http://mmamadness.com/insight.html?newsitem_id=70

Junior Assuncao is a tough dude...Dustin Hazelett (also on this card) broke his orbital and arm before Junior KO'd him...
http://bloodyelbow.com/story/2007/9/19/151021/416

video of the fight (weird)
http://www.juniorassuncao.net/index.asp?id=26


It would only have to be for a certain period of time. You said Alves was money in the bank, so it's not really a bet. :fro

Alves IS money in the bank :fro

[Evan]

Din says he might retire if he drops out of LW title contention
http://mmamadness.com/insight.html?newsitem_id=70

100% guarentee he loses now. He is talking that BS. He is done ala Cro Cop.

[cornbread]

Din Thomas
Nate Diaz
Chris Leben
Pete Sell
Jonathan Goulet
Leonard Garcia
Gray Maynard
Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Luke Cummo

[oligarchy]

100% guarentee he loses now. He is talking that BS. He is done ala Cro Cop.
Cro Cop said that before GP and he won it.

[Evan]

Cro Cop said that before GP and he won it.

This is different IMO.

He wanted more money from PRIDE. That was simply positioning for a contract. Hughes did the same thing.

I think Cro Cop is dead serious now which is obvious based on his performance and Din has retired before. Now that I think on it, didn't he talk about retiring on the show?

[oligarchy]

Eh.. I bombed on the picks for the undercard. Main card was almost there, but Din let me down...

Edit: er.. his knee

[Evan]

No excuses for injury!

Every fighter is injured for every fight or he didn't train hard enough!

:)

[Evan]

Results

Prelim Fights:

-Dustin Hazelett def. Jonathan Goulet via Submission (armbar) at 1:14 of Round 1.
-Thiago Alves def. Kuniyoshi Hironaka via TKO (stoppage) at 4:04 of Round 2.
-Gray Maynard def. Joe Veres via KO (punch) at 0:09 of Round 1.
-Cole Miller def. Leonard Garcia via Unanimous Decision (29-28, 30-27, 30-27) after 3 Rounds.
-Luke Cummo def. Edilberto CroCota via TKO (stoppage) at 1:45 of Round 1.

Live TV Fights:

-Nate Quarry def. Pete Sell via TKO (strikes) at 0:44 of Round 3.
-Nate Diaz def. Junior Assuncao via Submission (guillotine choke) at 4:10 of Round 1.
-Chris Leben def. Terry Martin via KO (punch) at 3:56 of Round 3.
-Kenny Florian def. Din Thomas via Submission (rear naked choke) at 4:31 of Round 1.

[Evan]

Good for Nate. He looked awesome and Pete Sell should be embarrassed.

I had completely forgotten about Nates standing chest stomps. I love that tactic. You possibly knock the wind from your opponent while forcing him back. One reason I love Cung Le so much, he uses that move in every few attacks.

speaking of Le.....when is he fighting again.....

Hopefully November 10 against someone with a ground game

[LEONARD]

4/9...ouch! :lol

I can't believe they couldn't squeeze in Gray beating Veres in 9 seconds. By the way, I picked Veres as an upset after talking to a guy that trains under him. He said his wrestling was the equivalent of Gray's and his striking and subs are better. He said a 9 second loss isn't at all indicative of his skills. Maybe we'll see him again...

Too bad Din got hurt...was looking like a great fight, although Kenny was looking better to me.

Leben is a tough/lucky mofo, although he did eat some big punches and stay up. That KO was a desperation punch that landed perfectly. He did look like a different fighter though...

Props to Quarry...he's tougher than I thought...

It sounds like Alves, Hazelett, and Cummo dominated...

Diaz looked great, and it sounds like Cole did too. I'll be looking for those fights in a day or 2...

Anybody else catch the fan that yelled "put him in a body bag!" during the Leben - Martin fight? Genius...

[Evan]

It took me awhile to get it. I hadn't seen Karate Kid since in a long long time.

It was sooooo loud.

Perfect timing.

[oligarchy]

4/9...ouch! :lol

I can't believe they couldn't squeeze in Gray beating Veres in 9 seconds. By the way, I picked Veres as an upset after talking to a guy that trains under him. He said his wrestling was the equivalent of Gray's and his striking and subs are better. He said a 9 second loss isn't at all indicative of his skills. Maybe we'll see him again...

Too bad Din got hurt...was looking like a great fight, although Kenny was looking better to me.

Leben is a tough/lucky mofo, although he did eat some big punches and stay up. That KO was a desperation punch that landed perfectly. He did look like a different fighter though...

Props to Quarry...he's tougher than I thought...

It sounds like Alves, Hazelett, and Cummo dominated...

Diaz looked great, and it sounds like Cole did too. I'll be looking for those fights in a day or 2...

Anybody else catch the fan that yelled "put him in a body bag!" during the Leben - Martin fight? Genius...
You would have won the sig bet with Alves..
I got 5/9, not too bad I suppose.
Quarry looked like crap, but stood in there. I can't believe he knocked Sell out.
Alves made Hironaka submit from leg kicks.. I guess like Cro Cop did to Yoshida.

Good night of fights overall. I wish Din didn't hurt himself. I wanted to see where it actually went. Florian was leading at the time anyway.

Was that from a fan? It was priceless. PUT HIM IN A BODY BAG. YEEEEAH!

[Evan]

I was just looking at sherdog forums and some people are convinced it was a corner guy. They could be right. It was so lound and clear.

Unless they had a mic close to the crowd?

[Rip-Hamilton32]

that was a pretty good card and my boy nate by KO :elephant

[LEONARD]

Watch them while they're up!

Maynard vs Veres
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x30t5x_joe-veres-vs-gray-maynard-ufn-11_extreme

Hazelett vs Goulet
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x30tea_dustin-hazelett-vs-jonathan-goulet_extreme

Crocota vs Cummo (funny/weird fight)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x30t9n_edilberto-crocota-vs-luke-cummo-ufn_extreme

Alves vs Hironaka
waiting

Garcia vs Miller
waiting

[LEONARD]

"Put him in a body bag!"
http://bloodyelbow.com/story/2007/9/20/113313/959

[LEONARD]

Damn...Alves has to face a top 5 WW in his next fight...he's a force...

I actually felt bad for Hironaka...he took a brutal beating... :dizzy

[Evan]

Update on Din's injury...

either an torn MCL or ACL. Considering he was talking about retiring before...I am sure it will happen.

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Update-On-Din-Thomas-Injury---Torn-MCLACL.html

[oligarchy]

Update on Din's injury...

either an torn MCL or ACL. Considering he was talking about retiring before...I am sure it will happen.

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Update-On-Din-Thomas-Injury---Torn-MCLACL.html
Considering it requires surgery and some time to heal, etc. I think we may have seen the last of Din.

[LEONARD]

Yea, that blows...you have to feel for the guy. For that to happen after all the training for that fight...

Knees are weird like that...doesn't take much force at the wrong angle and it goes. I blew out my ACL in 8th grade and again in 9th grade...it sucks ass...

[LEONARD]

Miller vs Garcia is a great fight...Miller might throw more sub attempts than anybody I've seen... :dizzy

[LEONARD]

Miller, Alves, and Veres post fight interviews...
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos_main.asp

[dallaskd]

KENNY!!! title shot soon?
Alves is a beast baby.
Leben...well ill give the credit, if the fight went another minute or so i think we would have seen a draw.

[dallaskd]

Not to mention Quarry. That's some heart. Im not going to say he will return to what he "was" but i think with determination he can be an above average UFC MW.

[cornbread]

Dailymotion has already taken down the videos. Bastards...

[Evan]

Dailymotion has already taken down the videos. Bastards...

Were at the end of DM and Youtube being useful for any Zuffa owned MMA.

And any sites that are under ground that stream live MMA....those are gone soon as well.

Not that I know where any are, I have just heard rumors.... :p:

[oligarchy]

Not to mention Quarry. That's some heart. Im not going to say he will return to what he "was" but i think with determination he can be an above average UFC MW.
He looked pretty bad in the fight.. he showed heart by staying in there, but it seemed like the 1800's and Western Union was sending telegrams by horse to Pete Sell. I'm suprised Sell got caught, Quarry was only really landing second and third hits off of combos. Hopefully it was ring rust and nerves of wanting to win his fight, etc. Maybe he'll look better next go around.

[oligarchy]

Wow.. I don't think I've seen so many injury suspensions

http://mmajunkie.com/2007/09/20/ufc-fight-night-11-medical-suspensions-issued/

The Nevada State Athletic Commission has issued a slew of medical suspensions following last night’s UFC Fight Night 11 event, which took place at The Palms Las Vegas and aired on Spike TV.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) received the paperwork directly from the NSAC.

Only one of the night’s nine fights went the full three rounds, and as a result, a small army of fighters — many who endured brutal knockouts and submissions — will need special clearance before returning to the Octagon.

The full list of suspensions includes:

Din Thomas (first-round loss via rear-naked choke to Kenny Florian): minimum suspension until Oct. 20 with no contact in training until Oct. 11. Additionally, Thomas will need to have an MRI of his right knee and receive clearance from an orthopedic doctor; otherwise, his suspension will run until March 18, 2008.

Chris Leben (third-round TKO of Terry Martin): Suspended until Oct. 20 with no contact until Oct. 11.

Terry Martin (third-round TKO loss to Leben): Suspended until Nov. 19 with no contact until Nov. 4.

Junior Assuncao (first-round loss via guillotine choke to Nate Diaz): Suspended until Oct. 20 with no contact until Oct. 11. Assuncao must have his right foot X-rayed and cleared by a doctor; otherwise, his suspension will run until March 18, 2008.

Nate Quarry (third-round TKO of Pete Sell): Suspended until Oct. 20 with no contact until Oct. 11.

Pete Sell (third-round TKO loss to Quarry): Suspended until Nov. 19 with no contact until Nov. 4. Sell must have his thumb cleared by a doctor; otherwise, his suspension will run until March 18, 2008.

Edilberto Crocota (first-round TKO loss to Luke Cummo): Suspended until Nov. 4 with no contact until Oct. 20.

Joe Veres (first-round TKO loss to Gray Maynard): Suspended until Oct. 20 with no contact until Oct. 11.

Kuniyoshi Hironaka (second-round TKO loss to Thiago Alves): Suspended until Nov. 4 with no contact until Oct. 20.

Jonathan Goulet (first-round loss via verbal tapout to Dustin Hazelett): Suspended until Oct. 20 with no contact until Oct. 11. Goulet must have his elbow X-rayed and cleared by an orthopedic doctor; otherwise, his suspension will run until March 18, 2008.

[Evan]

first-round loss via verbal tapout to

Don't see that very much...

I would love to see what the UFC's medical bill is for each event.

[LEONARD]

Excellent sportsmanship by Hazelett...

I'm on the Hazelett bandwagon... :fro

[Evan]

Excellent sportsmanship by Hazelett...

?

[tlongII]

That Leben/Martin fight was terrific. Best one of the night imo.

[LEONARD]

?

Download the fight, punk!

Hazelett was very respectful...Goulet should've tapped sooner...

[LEONARD]

That Leben/Martin fight was terrific. Best one of the night imo.

Miller - Garcia was my favorite... :fro

[dallaskd]

Miller - Garcia was my favorite... :fro

nah Quarry-Sell by far.