22 year old guy having sex with a 16 year old girl

[Dewayne2]

Hi. Long time reader, first time poster.

I found this in a fitness forum.

A guy, 22, wants to have sex with a girl who's 16. I'm the dad of a 1 year old daughter. I am worried about her enough as it is, but I cant think of how much I'd worry about this if this was my daughter. I'm angry about this guy doing this, am I right to be angry? What would you do if your daughter was in this situation?

(to make things equal, you can read the 22 year old guys side on his blog, http://www.becomingapua.com/2007/09/06/having-sex-with-a-16-year-old/ )

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Well, if he's posting it on a fitness forum, he should try to get some tips on how to work out using prison equipment.

[BacktoBasics]

Best fucking intro troll job we've seen at Spurstalk.

[fatsack]

this is only acceptable if it's a female teacher fucking one of her male students.

[bigzak25]

most hot chix are devirginized by 16 anyway, and the "good girls" will be riding it one year later as freshmen.


smartmoney is to wait til she's legal. she's so close anyway.



and why be mad? just worry bout your own daughter.

[Spurs>All]

According to the blog this is in Ontario where the legal age of consent is 16.

In any case I wish morals had been this shitty when I grew up.

[CosmicCowboy]

What would you do if your daughter was in this situation?

SSS

Shoot, Shovel, and Shut up

[midgetonadonkey]

If they can crawl, they are already in the right position.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Why not?

[2Blonde]

Why not?
Because my daughter is 15 1/2, that's why not !!! :flipoff

[midgetonadonkey]

If they can crawl, they are already in the right position.

That's terrible. I'm just kidding around. I turn all underaged girls down.

I turn them face down.

[peewee's lovechild]

According to the blog this is in Ontario where the legal age of consent is 16.

In any case I wish morals had been this shitty when I grew up.

I'm moving to Ontario.

God save Canada!!!!!!

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Because my daughter is 15 1/2, that's why not !!! :flipoff


As long as you don't move to Ontario anytime soon, you'll be alright.

BTW, it wasn't too long ago that the age of consent was 14 in Ontario.

[BacktoBasics]

How long before the ST pedo police start PMing Kori about the implied perverted posts here?

Uh huh....where are you guys now? Or do you only fucking bitch and moan about the troll forum?

[Herbert]

an underage girl? that's disgusting.

[Sunshine]

At 16, a girl isn't emotionally ready to be having sex. She should still be worrying about zits and if she'll get asked to the prom. Plus, at this stage in their lives, the age gap is huge. When he's 30 and she's 24, that's different, because by then, she'll be emotionally more mature and can handle a sexual relationship.

I was having sex at age 16, and really wish I would have waited. It's just too young.

[DON VITO]

I'd beat.

[samikeyp]

I was having sex at age 16, and really wish I would have waited. It's just too young.

you told me you loved me.

:depressed


:smokin

[Beno Udrih]

an underage girl? that's disgusting.
:lol

[Sunshine'sSupervisor]

you told me you loved me.

:depressed


:smokin



she says it alot.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

well legally its wrong, but as long as its not rape, 16 is old enough to make the decision for herself. Of course I say that now, while I don't have a daughter, I'm sure when I have children my opinion will change considerably :lol

Having said that, its not your daughter so its none of your business buddy

[Mixability]

Because my daughter is 15 1/2, that's why not !!! :flipoff

:lmao

[PM5K]

Find something better to do than worry about other people who are already at the legal age of consent...

[Das Texan]

I hope there is a followup to this blog.

[PM5K]

http://www.pantagraph.com/content/articles/2007/04/10/freetime/doc46143021cbbe6513566147.jpg

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Depends on the attitude of the chick.

People who instantly say "ooooo no she's not 18" seem to forget how slutty and aggressive a horny teenager can be when she wants it
Men and women agree that men are the dumber sex, so like they say on spurstalk you can only dangle a double cheeseburger in front of big zak so long....yadda yadda etc etc

[Fillmoe]

i did this last night, except she was 17....

[resistanze]

I thought the age on consent here in Ontario was 14 even...

[SRJ]

What state/province/country has the lowest age of consent?...uh, just out of curiosity, I mean.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

In developed countries, I think it's Spain(13).

Italy(14) and France(15) are pretty low as well.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Did anyone bother to read the blog? This guy is seriously deluding himself - she touches him on the arm a few times and flirts with him a little, and he takes it as a sign that she wants to fuck him!? She's 16 fer christsake! Yeah, maybe she knows what she's doing, but in all likelihood she's just messing around.

I agree with Sunshine that the maturity gap between 16 and 22 is large, and to me that equates to a power gap. Let's face it, 22yos are finishing up at college, 16 yos are in year 11 - he knows much more about the world than she does and that means he has more power.

WTF is a 22yo sniffing around 16yos for anyway? He's a very lame guy.

[DieMrBond]

Not meaning to be ignorant but what is the legal age limit for sexual intercourse in America? A couple of you mentioned it being illegal to have sex with a 16 year old. Is it 17 in the states? I ask, simply because it is 16 is Australia.

But yes, i think it is disgusting. If they were 26 and 32, thats a different story. Its not the age gap that is worrying, its the ages.

[mavs>spurs2]

Said he thought they were much older, but still

I think when I found out she was 16 i'd be long gone

[E20]

When in doubt, pull it out.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Not meaning to be ignorant but what is the legal age limit for sexual intercourse in America? A couple of you mentioned it being illegal to have sex with a 16 year old. Is it 17 in the states? I ask, simply because it is 16 is Australia.

But yes, i think it is disgusting. If they were 26 and 32, thats a different story. Its not the age gap that is worrying, its the ages.


It varies from state to state, but I'm pretty sure all states now fall into the 16-18 range.

Not 100% sure about Alabama, Arkansas or Mississippi though.

[Pedo Bear]

This guy has a good head on his shoulders.

[ploto]

Just because it's legal does not make it ethically or morally right.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

In Australia the age of consent is 16, and then each state has its own peculiar laws:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Australia_and_Oceania#Federal_l aws_.28laws_that_apply_to_all_Australians.29

Wikipedia is the shit!

If you read the blog you'll see that this 22yo guy is a member of PUA - Pickup Artists. This is a meme or "social movement", also referred to as the "seduction community", which is based around literature about how best to convince (deceive?) people into sleeping with you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Australia_and_Oceania#Federal_l aws_.28laws_that_apply_to_all_Australians.29

These people even call their social clubs "lairs"... sounds like sexual predation to me, and I think that's some sad shit. The Game is their Bible. This subculture is undoubtedly what the Tom Cruise character in Magnolia was based on.

Hell, I am not the most successful man when it comes to women, but nor am I interested in using 'techniques' to get people to sleep with me. Surely if I can't convince the person to be with me for me there's little point in it in the first place. Then again, maybe some people use these techniques in a way akin to Will Smith in Hitch, just to get in the door (so to speak) and be able to then show who they are as human beings...

Anyway, some background on where guys like this are coming from.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Did anyone bother to read the blog? This guy is seriously deluding himself - she touches him on the arm a few times and flirts with him a little, and he takes it as a sign that she wants to fuck him!? If you knew ANYTHING ABOUT WOMEN, which it is obvious you don't, you'd realize these subtle touches are a form of kino. I'm not saying what this guy is doing is right, but come the fuck on, this chick wanted some cock.

Did you read the blog? She took the bait and ran with it. No wonder you post thread after thread about being so lonely.

[TheSanityAnnex]

In Australia the age of consent is 16, and then each state has its own peculiar laws:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Australia_and_Oceania#Federal_l aws_.28laws_that_apply_to_all_Australians.29

Wikipedia is the shit!

If you read the blog you'll see that this 22yo guy is a member of PUA - Pickup Artists. This is a meme or "social movement", also referred to as the "seduction community", which is based around literature about how best to convince (deceive?) people into sleeping with you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Australia_and_Oceania#Federal_l aws_.28laws_that_apply_to_all_Australians.29

These people even call their social clubs "lairs"... sounds like sexual predation to me, and I think that's some sad shit. The Game is their Bible. This subculture is undoubtedly what the Tom Cruise character in Magnolia was based on.

Hell, I am not the most successful man when it comes to women, but nor am I interested in using 'techniques' to get people to sleep with me. Surely if I can't convince the person to be with me for me there's little point in it in the first place.

Anyway, some background on where guys like this are coming from. Parents, be very afraid.You don't know shit about picking up women, and it is apparent in your pathetic posts where you grovel patheticly complaining about your non-existent love life. These "techniques" are not exclusively to get women to sleep with you. These techniques are used for men to interact, and hopefully find a woman who is interested. You'd have been lucky to have learned this shit much earlier in life, but it appears you didn't. This technique is no different than what women use to find a suitable mate. What makes it wrong for men to use it?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You don't know shit about picking up women, and it is apparent in your pathetic posts where you grovel patheticly complaining about your non-existent love life. These "techniques" are not exclusively to get women to sleep with you. These techniques are used for men to interact, and hopefully find a woman who is interested. You'd have been lucky to have learned this shit much earlier in life, but it appears you didn't. This technique is no different than what women use to find a suitable mate. What makes it wrong for men to use it?

Actually, I just modified my post before reading yours to say:

"Then again, maybe some people use these techniques in a way akin to Will Smith in Hitch, just to get in the door (so to speak) and be able to then show who they are as human beings..."

Okay? That I can see some value in.

As for not being able to pick up women, wtf would you know? I do just fine, but I choose not to "pick up" because that is not what I'm looking for. I want a partner, not a fuck.

I have ONE bad day, make the mistake of posting about it, and people like you are going to remind me of it forever... when I posted that day I did so thinking we were a community around here, but obviously I was wrong about people like you.

Oh, and I've been seeing someone for a couple of months, so WTF would you know?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

If you knew ANYTHING ABOUT WOMEN, which it is obvious you don't, you'd realize these subtle touches are a form of kino. I'm not saying what this guy is doing is right, but come the fuck on, this chick wanted some cock.

Did you read the blog? She took the bait and ran with it. No wonder you post thread after thread about being so lonely.

So, a woman touches your arm and that means she's dying to open her legs??? Sure, it's a positive signal, I know that, but it does not equal "fuck me". it's an opening, not a closing.

And remember, this girl is 16!!! if she is VERY mature, she may have been sending sexual signals, but a typical 16yo would not have been doing so. 16 fer fucksake. Do you remember being 16? Most 16yos don't know shit about the world.

As for "thread after thread", WTF???? I posted one about 4 months ago. Fuck you and your PUA brethren, pal.

[Spurs>All]

Just put TSA on ignore. He's a sad, pitiful excuse for humanity.

[Slydragon]

What state/province/country has the lowest age of consent?...uh, just out of curiosity, I mean.
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[Slydragon]

After looking at what I just posted why the hell do some places have different ages of consent for gays and lesbians than they do male on female?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

You don't know shit about picking up women, and it is apparent in your pathetic posts where you grovel pathetically complaining about your non-existent love life.

My man TSA'll fuck you up in a minute
With a right left, right left you're toothless
And then you say goddamn they ruthless

[Slomo]

But yes, i think it is disgusting. If they were 26 and 32, thats a different story. Its not the age gap that is worrying, its the ages.
Just because it's legal does not make it ethically or morally right.
:tu

[AFBlue]

I'm moving to Ontario.

God save Canada!!!!!!

Don't have to go that far....

It's legal in Florida too. And they have warm weather with sandy beaches.

EDIT: I'll qualify that statement....

It's legal in Florida to have sex with a 16 year old if you're 23 or younger.

[Bigzax]

ethics and morals from whose point of view?

[TheSanityAnnex]

As for not being able to pick up women, wtf would you know? I do just fine, but I choose not to "pick up" because that is not what I'm looking for. I want a partner, not a fuck."picking up" gives you the opportunity to meet many potential partners, it's not just about fucking.


I have ONE bad day, make the mistake of posting about it, and people like you are going to remind me of it forever... Yeah. I get shit for stuff I've posted as well, it's no big deal.

[Fillmoe_]

[notorious big] FUCK EM IN THEY ASS, THROW EM OVER THE BRIDGE [/notorious big]

[CuckingFunt]

After looking at what I just posted why the hell do some places have different ages of consent for gays and lesbians than they do male on female?
Because people are crazy.

[Pedo Bear]

So did he ever get some?

[DarkReign]

At 16, a girl isn't emotionally ready to be having sex.


Tell that to the entire world outside of "Always right, Always moral" America.

[peewee's lovechild]

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I love Mexico.

[peewee's lovechild]

Gotta give some props to Chile as well.

[peewee's lovechild]

What the hell is Burkina Faso?

[mrsmaalox]

I love Mexico.

I don't understand. You can do it at 12 with someone of the opposite sex, but you have to be 18 to do it with the same sex?!

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

What the hell is Burkina Faso?

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=burkina+faso&ie=UTF8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ll=12.238333,-1.561593&spn=30.733752,58.710938&z=5

[ATRAIN]

If they can crawl, they are already in the right position.


LMAO

[peewee's lovechild]

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=burkina+faso&ie=UTF8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ll=12.238333,-1.561593&spn=30.733752,58.710938&z=5

I just might have to get me some of that chocolate lovin'.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I don't understand. You can do it at 12 with someone of the opposite sex, but you have to be 18 to do it with the same sex?!


In Guyana you can't have same sex, sex, at all. But a guy can get all the 14 year-old female tail he wants.










That's an interesting chart...uh t-shirt...just shows how cultural our definition of maturity really is.

I have to admit, though, that the 14,15,16 year old kids we know are far too young to be having sex, and far too vulnerable to older influence. I'm glad the legal age of consent is 18 here.

[Molester]

No comment.

[JoeChalupa]

Having two daughters, one of which is turning 14 this year, I sure as hell wouldn't go for it.

[smeagol]

What the hell is Burkina Faso?

A country, you ignorant twit.

[peewee's lovechild]

A country, you ignorant twit.

Oh, yea, thanks for pointing it out.

I didn't realize that it was a country, being that it was listed with all the other countries and what not.

I hope to grow up to be just like you some day . . . some day.

[Jekka]

If you knew ANYTHING ABOUT WOMEN, which it is obvious you don't, you'd realize these subtle touches are a form of kino. I'm not saying what this guy is doing is right, but come the fuck on, this chick wanted some cock.
Psychology Today (http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20000701-000014.html) - Talks some about how men tend to overestimate women's interest.

[CuckingFunt]

Psychology Today (http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20000701-000014.html) - Talks some about how men tend to overestimate women's interest.The assertions in this article bother me.

Research/findings/theories like this, in the hands of an overzealous lawyer, could be used to attempt to explain cases of rape and harassment as biologically or psychologically unavoidable.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

grass on the field..........PLAY BALL!!!

[Don Quixote]

We need to remember that a relationship between a 22-year-old male and a 16-year old female is not uncommon at all over the history of mankind. Indeed, it was only recently when it became somewhat taboo (or illegal) in the West. I'm not sure about East Asia or Latin America, but I know for sure that such arrangements are still everyday occurences in Africa and the Middle East. They are, invariably, done in the context of marriage and with the girl's family having the ability to either arrange the marriage, or at least bless it. Soo ... IF and only if it is in the context of marriage, then I would be okay with it.

I imagine, however, that most of you are looking at it from the vantage of whether it is okay for a 22-year-old to casually hook-up (or have a non-marital sexual relationship) with a younger girl. To that, I would say no.

And if you disagree with me ... Chris Hanson is watching you ... yes he is ...