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Nbadan
12-16-2004, 03:55 AM
There’s only one way the American people will accept the reinstatement of the draft. There would have to be “a massive casualty-producing event” on American soil. That’s it. There’s simply no other way Bush can get the popular support needed. And, since we’re able to figure that out, it’s certain that White House planners-and-schemers have figured it out, too. This sets us up for some very ugly scenarios, including the possibility that we’ll be seeing more terrorist “events” sometime in the near future.

We’re hearing stories almost daily about how “stretched” the military is. A recent army survey discovered that only half the soldiers are planning to re-enlist. Elaine Monaghan reports from the Times of London that: “The US military is fighting desertion, recruitment shortfalls and legal challenges from its own troops.” She also notes that, “a further sign of strain can be seen in the Army's decision this year to mobilize 5,600 members of a pool of former soldiers that can be mobilized only in a national emergency,” and that, “Forty per cent of the 138,000 (National Guard) troops in Iraq are part-timers who never expected to be sent to the front line.”

These are signs that the military is understaffed, demoralized and seriously overextended. It needs more “warm bodies” to fill their depleted ranks, and it needs them soon. The state of affairs in Iraq is quickly deteriorating. The siege in Falluja did nothing to quell the resistance, and for all practical purposes, the situation is getting worse. Stop loss rules have been enacted, forcing soldiers to stay in the military well beyond their original commitment, and tours of duty have been extended for everyone presently in uniform. Those who watched CBS’ 60 Minutes last Sunday saw how the Defense Dept has even called a 55 year old woman back to duty to serve in Iraq. These are signs of desperation, and a clear indication that the draft will be reinstated. Casualties in Iraq are also high, increasing the pressure on the Pentagon to come up with more men.

Consider the comments of Paul Craig Roberts in a recent Counterpunch article: “According to the US military hospital in Landstuhl, Germany, the hospital has treated 20,802 US troops for injuries received in Iraq. According to the Pentagon's figures, 54% of the wounded are too seriously injured to return to their units. If that figure is correct, it would mean that the resistance fighters have put 11,233 US troops out of action. Add in the 1,254 US troops who have been killed for a total of 12,487. That's 9% of our total force in Iraq and a much higher percentage of our combat force.” 9% in less than two years. If that doesn’t show how badly the war in Iraq is going, then this will. Roberts says that the Pentagon has begin “redeploying the disabled” because “we have no more troops to throw at the few thousand lightly armed Iraqi resistance fighters who have tied down eight US divisions.”

“Redeploying the disabled”? Are you kidding me? Ironically, the plight of the falling dollar also creates greater urgency for a draft. Part of the Bush plan was to underwrite America’s enormous $7 trillion debt by controlling the world’s oil. The administration wizards figured that the tax cuts and lavish defense spending would be offset by a quick wrap-up of the Iraq conflict. Foreign countries would then be forced to carry our debt because we would have shown our determination to control the world’s oil. It hasn’t worked that way. American forces are bogged down and the flow of oil from Iraq is erratic at best. Youssef Ibrahim says in a recent Znet article that the Iraq war has “resulted in the loss of an average of 2 million barrels a day of Iraqi oil from world markets;” a major factor in the dramatic fluctuations we’ve seen in the last few months. Add to that, the fact that the US is spending nearly $1.6 Billion per month on military operations and you have a formula for a major economic disaster.

So, both the military and economic situations demonstrate the need for a draft; and not just a draft, but a full mobilization of 500,000 to 1,000,000 men. (Keep in mind the saber-rattling with Iran, Syria and North Korea.) Draft Boards; Ready to Go. An article in Z Magazine’s Nov issue “A Military Draft” outlines the extent to which the SSS (Selective Service System) is gearing up for a draft. The SSS has already admitted that it is “designing procedures” for a “skills draft”, that is, a draft that would target ages 18 to 34 for jobs where there are immediate shortages. (“truck drivers, mechanics, engineers, computer specialists”) The highest level officials in the SSS have produced an “Issue Paper” that recommends sweeping changes to the current system. The first of these recommendations is: “Change the very mission of the SSS to become a massive conscription service in the war on terror for the entire government”. Another recommendation: “Create a massive data base of virtually every young American age 18 to 34.

This database would be used to draft in war and to recruit in peacetime. State and even local governments would be given access to the names for recruitment and help in emergencies”. For years the SSS has operated at a minimal level. Now things are in high gear. “The SSS Performance Plan for 2004”will: “Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 56 State Headquarters, 442 Area Offices and 1,980 Local Boards are operational within 75 days of an authorized return to conscription.” “If the Administration asks for reinstatement on April 1, Congress could pass it that night and the first batch of more than 1 million 20 year olds would face the national lottery as soon as June 15.” (Z Magazine, Nov 2004) $28 million has been (covertly) diverted from other programs to get the SSS up-and-running. Nearly $8 million was spent on “Increasing the effectiveness of the Manpower Delivery Systems”.

In other words, how to get your son quickly into a uniform and off to Iraq. No minute detail has escaped the attention of the SSS. Even the procedures for processing Conscientious Objectors (now, called Alternate Service) is covered in excruciating detail. Overall, it’s proof-positive that Washington understands that present troop levels are unsustainable and is preparing for a draft. Right now, the SSS is 95% ready for the “Combat Induction Process” to begin. All that’s needed is the word from Bush to set things in motion. The “trigger mechanism” will probably come in the form of a “massive casualty-producing event” on American soil. The return of the draft is just the first of the changes we can expect from such a catastrophe.

By Mike Whitney (http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2004%20opinions/December/13%20o/Gearing%20Up%20for%20the%20Draft%20By%20Mike%20Whi tney.htm)

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12-16-2004, 09:30 AM
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Clandestino
12-16-2004, 10:10 AM
haha.... al-jazeera! great sources mr iraqi information minister

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12-16-2004, 11:04 AM
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sbsquared
12-16-2004, 12:54 PM
Dan - we have the best military in the world. With the sophisticated weapons and technology we have, we don't need as many foot soldiers. And the military only wants the best and brightest, that's why they give those entrance tests.

A draft serves no purpose - they don't want just any joe off the street - they want people who want to serve and are qualified.

Nbadan
12-16-2004, 01:04 PM
A draft serves no purpose - they don't want just any joe off the street - they want people who want to serve and are qualified.

Less people are joining the reserves and National Guard, and even active duty recruitment is only at 60% of yearly goal. The U.S. has enough troops to keep everyone in place for a couple of years, but after that there simply won't be enough people in a all-volunteer force to keep us viable, especially in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Besides, some of this countries greatest hero's in WW2 and Vietnam were draftees. All this talk about draftees not fighting hard because they don't want to be there is just nonsense. They won WW2.

Nbadan
12-16-2004, 01:24 PM
Griping among the troops is as old as armed conflict, illustrated most memorably by cartoonist Bill Mauldin's "Willie and Joe" characters during World War II. But something more than that is happening now in Iraq with what appears to be growing resistance from the troops.

Evidence includes numbers of deserters (reportedly in the thousands), resignations of reserve officers, lawsuits by those whose duty period has been involuntarily extended, and a refusal to go on dangerous missions without proper equipment. There's also been a willingness at grunt level to publicly challenge the Pentagon - as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld found out recently in a trip to the war zone, where he got an earful about unarmored humvees.

While some don't see much defiance - and, in fact, have been surprised by the depth of solidarity - others see an unusual amount of tension surfacing for an all-volunteer military force.

"What is driving the resistance is the same thing that drove it during Vietnam - a lack of trust in the civilian leadership and a sense that the uniformed leaders are not standing up for the forces," says retired Army Col. Dan Smith, a military analyst with the Friends Committee on National Legislation in Washington. Colonel Smith doesn't expect the kind of "fragging" incidents that occurred in Vietnam where soldiers attacked their own officers. "This force is too professional," he says. "But the lack of trust and the inequity of the tours will very likely be reflected in the numbers of Guard and reservists who vote no-confidence with their feet."

Christian Science Monitor (http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1216/p01s01-usmi.html)

Useruser666
12-16-2004, 01:43 PM
Less people are joining the reserves and National Guard, and even active duty recruitment is only at 60% of yearly goal. The U.S. has enough troops to keep everyone in place for a couple of years, but after that there simply won't be enough people in a all-volunteer force to keep us viable, especially in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Besides, some of this countries greatest hero's in WW2 and Vietnam were draftees. All this talk about draftees not fighting hard because they don't want to be there is just nonsense. They won WW2.

Uh, WW1 and 2 were much different than what's going now a days. Don't even try and attempt to argue that. No one said every draftee was a loser. It's just not in the armed services' best interest to take people who don't want to serve. More money, shorter times on duty, and other benefits will attract more people.

Aggie Hoopsfan
12-16-2004, 02:38 PM
There would have to be “a massive casualty-producing event” on American soil. That’s it.

If there was another mass casualty event, there would be no need for a draft, because you'd have enough pissed off Americans willing to join up voluntarily. Duh.


Less people are joining the reserves and National Guard, and even active duty recruitment is only at 60% of yearly goal.

This is bullshit. The military hit all their quotas for recruitment (that's 100% for mentally challenged people like you Dan) for the fiscal year ending in October 2004. You shouldn't pull facts out of your ass when the real ones are already out there.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/2004recruitgoal.htm


The Army enlisted 77,587 soldiers through September, besting the year's goal by 587 soldiers.

Through Sept. 29, the Navy reported that it enlisted 39,874 sailors, bettering its goal by 254 sailors.

The Air Force said it enlisted 34,362 service members for the year, topping its recruiting goal by 282 people.

The Marine Corps reported it had enlisted 36,794 service members for the fiscal 2004, which topped its goal by 21 enlistees.

The Coast Guard recruited 3,809 over their recruiting goal of 3,800.

Clandestino
12-16-2004, 02:40 PM
your recruitment numbers are waaaay off! so much so that i meet people that the military won't accept because they only have GEDs even though they score well on the ASVAB... AF and Marines usually meet 100% of their goals, Navy very close to 100% and the army ranges from 95-97% a lot.. plus meets it as well. if they only met 60%, like you, errr uh, al jazeera says, then we would have no one in the military..