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10-01-2007, 04:02 PM
Power Rankings: Spurs, C's open training camp on top
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com



The NBA and its public have never endured a more depressing summer. Never, ever. Tim Donaghy, Eddie Griffin, Greg Oden, Seattle and its Sonics, Isiah Thomas and the Knicks in court ... it's too often been horribly bad or sad news.

Yet it's time to move on -- or at least try -- and this is the best first step we've got. The return, after an absence of 167 days, of your beloved NBA Power Rankings.

This is where you click for a (human) pulse-take on the NBA, starting with our annual training camp edition from the committee (of one). For the purposes of review, allow me to share my usual reminder that this set of rankings measures each team's standing and outlook heading into the season and is not a predicted order of finish.

How last season ended and how good a team is projected to be in 2007-08 are only part of the equation at this early stage. How each team fared in the summer factors in as well, along with a dash of totally subjective whim. For example: It might be premature to bestow title-contender status on Boston, but the Celtics make the monumental leap from No. 29 in the final 2006-07 rankings to No. 2 after two blockbuster offseason acquisitions that upstaged the whole league. (Acquisitions, it says here, that do give them a real shot to win the wide-open East.)

The next batch of rankings will appear on Oct. 29, one day before opening night, after all 30 teams have a month to show us something. The rankings will then continue every Monday throughout the regular season. Click here to comment on the first helping.

Editor's note: Last Week and Record categories are from the final Power Rankings of the 2006-07 regular season.
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2007-08 Power Rankings: Training Camp
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (2) Spurs 58-24 Is this the season, after three titles in five seasons, San Antonio finally goes back-to-back? Here's what we do know for sure: Defending champs always start up here with the committee, even if they never repeat.
2 (29) Celtics 24-58 Sobering fact: No team with three 20-point scorers has ever won it all. But all Boston has to do is get to the Finals to meet expectations, which (again) is very plausible now after the NBA's most spectacular offseason.
3 (3) Suns 61-21 A trade demand on the eve of camp from someone of Marion's stature would normally lead to a bigger rankings slide. But Phoenix has years of practice dealing with (and winning in spite of) a mopey Matrix.
4 (5) Rockets 52-30 No West team did more to help itself over the summer. But championship material? We're starting to hear such chatter, which seems a tad premature until T-Mac and Yao win a playoff series together. Agreed?
5 (7) Pistons 53-29 Maybe we're in the minority, but the committee keeps looking at a roster that wasn't blown up as many expected and keeps seeing the best Pistons team -- at least on paper -- since the squad that won it all in 2004.
6 (1) Mavericks 67-15 Dallas isn't starting so low because its season for the ages ended in first-round humiliation. Dallas is down here because it has to prove it can rebound from two extraordinarily painful playoff implosions in a row.
7 (12) Cavaliers 50-32 It's one thing to make zero changes to the roster, but now Varejao and Pavlovic don't plan to come to camp. In other words, "Saturday Night Live" was likely the last time you'll see LeBron smile for a while.
8 (10) Jazz 51-31 The major doubt is not whether Utah has the talent to repeat last season's various breakthroughs. It's whether Utah will have the togetherness, after a trade demand from Kirilenko far more unsettling than Marion's.
9 (11) Warriors 42-40 As if the prospect of training camp in Hawaii isn't appealing enough, Golden State will have the unexpected privilege of claiming the brighter outlook of the two California teams based in the land of the luau. Sorry, Lakers.
10 (4) Bulls 49-33 The Bulls are on the short list of favorites to win the East, but you have to wonder -- given their inability to trade for KG or Pau -- how much they're second-guessing themselves for letting Tyson Chandler go.
11 (9) Nuggets 45-37 We didn't remember this at first, either, but the Iverson-and-Melo Nuggets were 10-1 in April. So maybe they were right to tweak minimally in the offseason, saving the spotlight for K-Mart's mountain of a comeback.
12 (6) Raptors 47-35 J-Kidd recently decreed that Raps, as defending division champs, deserve Team To Beat status in the Atlantic. They'd settle for second place and a return to the playoffs, honestly, but welcome the rare props.
13 (15) Magic 40-42 No team from last season's eight playoff qualifiers in the East did more in the offseason than Orlando. Yet you'd struggle to find anyone picking newcomers Rashard and SVG to lift D-Howard into the elite just yet.
14 (13) Nets 41-41 The suspicion here remains that the Nets have a better shot than anyone at eventually trading for Jermaine O'Neal. In the interim, they'll settle for a smooth return for Krstic and a resurrected Magloire.
15 (18) Wizards 41-41 He's an Internet legend with his blogs, interviews and quirks. He's also the new NBA Live video-game cover boy. But is he a leader? Maybe this is the season Arenas -- in his contract year -- lets us know.
16 (19) Hornets 39-43 No one knows for sure what sort of support awaits the Hornets in their full-time return to the Crescent City, but a return to the playoffs sounds realistic if they can find some consistent health there.
17 (27) Bucks 28-54 The Bucks were busier than most teams over the summer and spent a lot more than they usually do. So Sen. Kohl will inevitably demand big things from the team GM Larry Harris has assembled, starting with the Big Yi.
18 (20) Bobcats 33-49 Sam Vincent might be facing an unusual amount of pressure for a rookie coach if the guy who hired him (Michael Something or Other) shares the growing belief that the Bobs, in Year 4, should make a real playoff push.
19 (14) Lakers 42-40 Confidence in Lakerland is high that Kobe will indeed attend all of training camp. The mere fact that was ever in doubt, though, lets you know how turbulent this season is bound to be for the Zen Men.
20 (8) Heat 44-38 It's probably not encouraging that Riles -- who recently gave himself 'an F' for Miami's lack of offseason upgrades to a brittle roster -- responded testily last week to questions about Wade and Shaq's health.
21 (30) Grizzlies 22-60 Losing 60 games must have been a torturous farewell for Jerry West, but the Grizz have found credibility without The Logo faster than anyone expected after hiring Iavaroni and a flurry of summer improvements.
22 (24) SuperSonics 31-51 Blanket coverage of the team's uncertain future in the Pacific Northwest can only help Durant. He'll undoubtedly welcome focus on other matters given how much he and his young team figures to struggle in Year 1.
23 (23) Trail Blazers 32-50 Don't know that this will provide much consolation for devastated Blazermaniacs, but we've been assured Greg Oden will be eligible to win Rookie of the Year in the 2008-09 season if he sits out all of this season.
24 (25) Knicks 33-49 The new season begins with Balkman freshly injured and Isiah corralled in a Manhattan courtroom instead of introducing Zach Randolph at media day. It's a calamitous start, even by Knicks standards.
25 (22) Kings 33-49 We repeat: Sacramento's turn-of-the-century rise from perennial doormat to title contender was a fairy tale, but rebuilding this castle -- nearly three years after exiling Webber -- is proving a much tougher job.
26 (28) Hawks 30-52 The Hawks have a new logo, color scheme and pair of hot rookies. But Hawks Fever isn't exactly rampant when they've also inherited the league's longest playoff drought, at eight seasons and counting.
27 (17) 76ers 35-47 Philly's first full season AAI (After Allen Iverson) begins with numerous question marks. The biggest of those: Do you see a core on the roster worth building around? Without a clear-cut franchise player, not yet.
28 (16) Clippers 40-42 If the injured Elton Brand is right about what the teammates he's left behind can do, this ranking and zillions of skeptics are all wrong: 'You tell us we suck? Well, they're going to show you that we don't.'
29 (21) Pacers 35-47 Why do we keep dredging up the melee in Detroit? Because that turning point in Pacers history happened in the fall of 2004, but things in Pacerland are getting progressively worse nearly three years later. Not better.
30 (26) Timberwolves 32-50 You suspect that Mr. McHale won't mind starting Life After KG with what has to be the most faraway training camp in NBA history. Can't imagine he'll encounter too many disgruntled Wolves fans in Turkey.

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Scola Trade
10-01-2007, 04:09 PM
Overrated:

2. Celticts
9. Warriors
13. Magic


Underrated:

6. Mavs
10 Bulls
14. Nets

Tippecanoe
10-01-2007, 04:12 PM
celtics at 2 and mavs at 6?? hey, im not gonna complain

Obstructed_View
10-01-2007, 04:53 PM
The Celtics at 2 and the Mavs at 6? Please. Few hate the Mavs more than I do and even I know how retarded that is. The Mavs are likely to be the top team in the west this year for a number of reasons, not least of which is the embarassment they still feel for their playoff exit. An angry 67 win team is dangerous.

The_Game
10-01-2007, 04:59 PM
weren't mavs suppose to be angry after losing in the finals? please......dallas are mentally doomed for life.

Obstructed_View
10-01-2007, 05:08 PM
weren't mavs suppose to be angry after losing in the finals? please......dallas are mentally doomed for life.
They ended up winning 67 games. They were at the top of just about all of the power rankings for most of the year. That sounds pretty fucking angry to me, but they did start out 0-4...

Please tell me you aren't seriously defending them in sixth, though. Power rankings have to do with who is good to start the season, and there's no fucking way there are five teams in the NBA better than they are, particularly a team that made so many personnel changes like Boston.

Mr.Bottomtooth
10-01-2007, 05:17 PM
Overrated:
2 Celtics
3 Suns

Underrated:
6 Mavericks
10 Bulls

Findog
10-01-2007, 05:31 PM
1) San Antonio
2) Dallas
3) Phoenix

4-9: Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Houston, Utah, Detroit (order doesn't matter)

10-30: Everybody else (order doesn't matter)

Xylus
10-01-2007, 05:37 PM
Overrated:
2 Celtics
3 Suns

Underrated:
6 Mavericks
10 Bulls
Explain to me how the Suns are overrated at #3?

Mr.Bottomtooth
10-01-2007, 05:49 PM
They're not really overrated. I just put them there because I think the Mavs are better.

Findog
10-01-2007, 05:52 PM
Most importantly, the Suns are #1 in tv ratings.

/da_suns_fan

Il Caraibico
10-01-2007, 06:01 PM
Most importantly, the Suns are #1 in tv ratings.

/da_suns_fan
:lol

Mr.Bottomtooth
10-01-2007, 06:11 PM
:lol

Ocotillo
10-01-2007, 06:26 PM
2 (29) Celtics 24-58 Sobering fact: No team with three 20-point scorers has ever won it all. But all Boston has to do is get to the Finals to meet expectations, which (again) is very plausible now after the NBA's most spectacular offseason.


I don't think the big three will average 20 each. I say Ray Ray drops into the teens. People haven't been thinking about the old adage "there is only one ball"........

1Parker1
10-01-2007, 06:43 PM
I don't know if the Celtics deserve the #2 spot, but the Bulls sure seem awfully low in rankings. I actually think they are the best team in the East. If Deng, Gordon, and Heinrich can learn to be more consistent on offensive, that's a great team they have. Plus they got Noah from the draft....that is a solid team for the East.

barbacoataco
10-01-2007, 10:34 PM
Mavs at #6 is a joke.

dbreiden83080
10-01-2007, 10:39 PM
Yeah Celts at number 2. They are either going to be really good right away or maybe not good at all. Everyone is going to pick them to go to the finals so if they don't get off to a good start the pressure on them to pick it up and deliver on expectations may divide them. Plus i have serious doubts about Doc Rivers abilty to guide a team even a very good one to the finals.

sa_kid20
10-01-2007, 10:39 PM
Celtics at #2 is kinda out there considering they haven't even taken the floor together yet. wait till at least the all-star break to put em up there with the spurs which is still a reach.

dbreiden83080
10-01-2007, 10:45 PM
Mavs at #6 is a joke.

After a first RD exit to an 8 seed last year how do you figure?? Spurs would have killed the Warriors in a series last year, Mavs have got to prove themselves again.

phxspurfan
10-01-2007, 11:34 PM
Stein is a terrible writer.

clubalien
10-01-2007, 11:34 PM
Think it is worth mentioned tpups go from a playoff yeam to the alomost the worst team in the nba

proves how goof KG is

Obstructed_View
10-01-2007, 11:56 PM
Think it is worth mentioned tpups go from a playoff yeam to the alomost the worst team in the nba

proves how goof KG is
That would be true...if the Timberwolves had been a playoff team. I seem to recall that they lost fifty games last season with Mr Garnett.

Spurs rock
10-02-2007, 12:01 AM
The Heat are underrated.

Rummpd
10-02-2007, 08:10 AM
Heat under-rated, Celtics vastly over-rated- if you are talking about what counts, the potential to win a championship.

Also putting the Suns after losing Thomas over the Mavs is inane.

Another team not given enough respect is the Wizards, were one of the top teams in East before two all stars missed the playoffs, and they got deeper in the off-season and added some defensive players.

ChumpDumper
10-02-2007, 09:27 AM
Nets are way too low. Wiz a little low.

polandprzem
10-02-2007, 10:17 AM
When I saw Dallas on 6th place I stopped reading

mystargtr34
10-02-2007, 10:30 AM
Im Bored

1. Spurs
2. Mavs
3. Suns
4. Pistons
5. Celtics
6. Bulls
7. Rockets
8. Jazz
9. Cavs
10. Nuggets
11. Heat
12. Warriors
13. Wizards
14. Lakers
15. Raptors
16. Nets
17. Magic
18. Hornets
19. Bobcats
20. Bucks
21. Grizzlies
22. Pacers

cbf anymor
16.