Nelson: Nash best player he ever coached.

[da_suns_fan__]

Currently being interviewed on Rome.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Rack! from SoCal and SacTown!!!! Dingdingding! Errrrrrrrrrrrr. WAR!

[mavsfan1000]

Who gives a shit what that old geizer says.

[clambake]

Who gives a shit what that old geizer says.
you mean that guy that stomped the shit out of the mavs?

[Obstructed_View]

Nellie is never going to give up a chance to make Mark Cuban look like a dumbass for letting Nash go.

And fortunately for Nash, it's politically incorrect to bring Tim Hardaway's name up.

[yourcheatinheart]

Nellie is never going to give up a chance to make Mark Cuban look like a dumbass for letting Nash go.

And fortunately for Nash, it's politically incorrect to bring Tim Hardaway's name up.


tim hardaway couldn't hold Nash's nuts with a forklift, fucking shit.

[ducks]

nelson never coached tp

[TDMVPDPOY]

nelson had nash at the mavs, where did it take him and his team to? = jackshit

[monosylab1k]

So the great head coach who will never be able to win a title because he doesn't give a shit about defense thought that the best player he ever coached was the great point guard who will never be able to win a title because he doesn't give a shit about defense. what a shocker.

[Findog]

tim hardaway couldn't hold Nash's nuts with a forklift, fucking shit.

In his prime, Hardaway gave you 23 points, 10 assists, 4 rebounds and 2 steals on 46% shooting, and he could play a little d, unlike Nash.

Nash at his best gives you 19 points, 11 assists, 4 rebounds and no steals on 53% shooting, and he can't guard an empty gym. Nash is a better shooter than Hardaway in his prime and has a bit better court vision, but Hardaway could play d.

Nash is a fine player, and he's elevated his game to that of a franchise player, but he's not much ahead of Hardaway, if at all. Nash has been hyped and talked about so long he's become overrated. That's probably due to some combination of him being white, a conscientious character guy in a league full of thugs, and playing in a system that is aesthetically pleasing to watch for casual fans.

[monosylab1k]

tim hardaway couldn't hold Nash's nuts with a forklift, fucking shit.
he'd be too busy blowing right by him for another layup.

[Obstructed_View]

tim hardaway couldn't hold Nash's nuts with a forklift, fucking shit.
Maybe not, but he's a much better point guard. Prove me wrong. annnnnddd...GO!

[mavsfan1000]

Nelson didn't do jack shit with Nash. It was D'antoni that was the coach when Nash was at his best. Nelson didn't know shit how to get the best out of Nash. Fuck Nelson.

[lefty]

Nelson didn't do jack shit with Nash. It was D'antoni that was the coach when Nash was at his best. Nelson didn't know shit how to get the best out of Nash. Fuck Nelson.

I agree; I've always thought that Nash was the best of the big 3

[mavsfan1000]

I agree; I've always thought that Nash was the best of the big 3
They all have their flaws. Finley to me doesn't really deserve to be considered a top 3 player. Really it was the top 2. Nash had great point guard skills and outside shooting but got destroyed by other point guards. :rolleyes Nowitzki wasn't a good defender either but it is easier to mask at the 4 than the point guard position. He definitely is a big scoring threat but can choke as we've seen. Having 2 defensive liabilities on one team spells doom in the playoffs.

[Obstructed_View]

Finley to me doesn't really deserve to be considered a top 3 player.
You must not have been a fan during the years that he was the best player on the team. Oh wait, most of them were before Mark Cuban became the owner. Why would you have been a fan then? :lol

[We born to be bad]

You must not have been a fan during the years that he was the best player on the team. Oh wait, most of them were before Mark Cuban became the owner. Why would you have been a fan then? :lol

Finley was traded at the exact moment when he began to decline his game. And now we have young players in his place and Mike is a NBAchampions. Square deal.

[mavsfan1000]

You must not have been a fan during the years that he was the best player on the team. Oh wait, most of them were before Mark Cuban became the owner. Why would you have been a fan then? :lol
Yeah and that team was one of the worst teams of all-time as I remember. Nash and Dirk were clearly better than Finley when they were here.

[monosylab1k]

Without Michael Finley the Dallas Mavericks never become what they are today. He was the one player that was able to give that team some glimpse of hope during the dark years of the 90's. He stuck with this team and fought his ass off 82 times a year despite everyone else giving up. Sure, he might have been surpassed by Dirk & Nash somewhere along the line, but even then, he never let his ego get in the way and he always conducted himself with absolute class. His leadership and dedication are the reason Dirk and Nash developed into the players they are. The example he set paved the way for Dirk. Unfortunately, the grit and balls Finley played with every night didn't rub off on Dirk (no pun intended).

If I see another bandwagon ass Mavs fan undermining the contributions of Michael Finley I'm gonna lose my fucking mind. He was the most important player we had in a decade, he stuck with this team through everything, and his belief in young guys like Dirk & Nash that they would become something special despite completely sucking their first couple years......that's the reason why the Mavericks have made it this far.

[mavsfan1000]

Without Michael Finley the Dallas Mavericks never become what they are today. He was the one player that was able to give that team some glimpse of hope during the dark years of the 90's. He stuck with this team and fought his ass off 82 times a year despite everyone else giving up. Sure, he might have been surpassed by Dirk & Nash somewhere along the line, but even then, he never let his ego get in the way and he always conducted himself with absolute class. His leadership and dedication are the reason Dirk and Nash developed into the players they are. The example he set paved the way for Dirk. Unfortunately, the grit and balls Finley played with every night didn't rub off on Dirk (no pun intended).

If I see another bandwagon ass Mavs fan undermining the contributions of Michael Finley I'm gonna lose my fucking mind. He was the most important player we had in a decade, he stuck with this team through everything, and his belief in young guys like Dirk & Nash that they would become something special despite completely sucking their first couple years......that's the reason why the Mavericks have made it this far.
So what if he contributed a lot in the 90's. The team wasn't any good. He gave them zero chance of winning a championship or even getting to the playoffs. Btw when the mavs were championship threats Finley was way past his prime and Dirk and Nash were what the made the mavs great. Now it's Dirk and Howard imo. Never was a big three. If there was in the right position than the Mavs could be with a ring right now considering the mavs played decent defense.

[resistanze]

So what if he contributed a lot in the 90's. The team wasn't any good. He gave them zero chance of winning a championship or even getting to the playoffs. Btw when the mavs were championship threats Finley was way past his prime and Dirk and Nash were what the made the mavs great. Now it's Dirk and Howard imo. Never was a big three. If there was in the right position than the Mavs could be with a ring right now considering the mavs played decent defense.
If the team wasn't any good, why are you blaming Finley for that?

The Mavs of the past 3 seasons with only Dirk left of the Big 3 is probably the biggest threat for a championship in the teams' history. Unfortunately, with all that talent Finley never had in his prime, all Dirk has done up to this point in the playoffs is choke.

[mavsfan1000]

If the team wasn't any good, why are you blaming Finley for that?

The Mavs of the past 3 seasons with only Dirk left of the Big 3 is probably the biggest threat for a championship in the teams' history. Unfortunately, with all that talent Finley never had in his prime, all Dirk has done up to this point in the playoffs is choke.
Yeah but at least he gives the mavs a chance. Of course he needs to stop choking or struggling with athletic long 3's which he has a history of problems with. I admire Finley for giving his all in the dark days but like I say Championship or Bust. This team didn't lose anything with Finley leaving. They actually got better.

[ShoogarBear]

They got better with Nash leaving, too. An alleged 2-time MVP.

[ShoogarBear]

Finley's years as part of the Big 3

1999 41 MPG 20.2 PPG 5.3 RPG 4.4 APG
2000 42 MPG 22.6 PPG 6.3 RPG 5.3 APG
2001 42 MPG 22.5 PPG 5.2 RPG 4.4 APG
2002 40 MPG 20.6 PPG 5.2 RPG 3.3 APG
2003 38 MPG 19.3 PPG 3.5 RPG 3.0 APG
2004 39 MPG 18.6 PPG 4.5 RPG 2.9 APG

Yeah, what a scrub.

[Obstructed_View]

So what if he contributed a lot in the 90's. I didn't root for them then.

[JMarkJohns]

Without Michael Finley the Dallas Mavericks never become what they are today. He was the one player that was able to give that team some glimpse of hope during the dark years of the 90's. He stuck with this team and fought his ass off 82 times a year despite everyone else giving up. Sure, he might have been surpassed by Dirk & Nash somewhere along the line, but even then, he never let his ego get in the way and he always conducted himself with absolute class. His leadership and dedication are the reason Dirk and Nash developed into the players they are. The example he set paved the way for Dirk. Unfortunately, the grit and balls Finley played with every night didn't rub off on Dirk (no pun intended).

If I see another bandwagon ass Mavs fan undermining the contributions of Michael Finley I'm gonna lose my fucking mind. He was the most important player we had in a decade, he stuck with this team through everything, and his belief in young guys like Dirk & Nash that they would become something special despite completely sucking their first couple years......that's the reason why the Mavericks have made it this far.

And to think that I had already nominated mono before I had even read this post... Fantastic take. This just reaffirms my belief that you're one of the top non-spurs posters here. This was spot on.

I wish Finley was on the Suns long enough for me to appreciate his scrubdom... :dramaquee

[mavsfan1000]

blah blah blah
So what. I live in Houston. I've become a fan of them because I love their style of play. Still do. I'm a big Nowitzki fan I admit and not so much of a Finley fan. I always thought he was a low percentage shooter compared to Nowitzki and Nash. Yeah he puts a lot of points up but it doesn't really benefit too much due to being too inconsistent. He didn't have the speed later in his career to get by his guy so he settles for low percentage shots. I'm sure you've noticed the same in San Antonio. Great guy but not a great fit in Dallas.

[Obstructed_View]

So what. I live in Houston. I've become a fan of them because I love their style of play. Still do. I'm a big Nowitzki fan I admit and not so much of a Finley fan. I always thought he was a low percentage shooter compared to Nowitzki and Nash. Yeah he puts a lot of points up but it doesn't really benefit too much due to being too inconsistent. He didn't have the speed later in his career to get by his guy so he settles for low percentage shots. I'm sure you've noticed the same in San Antonio. Great guy but not a great fit in Dallas.
I wish I could say your stupidity never ceases to amaze me, but it's become so commonplace it's not even that much fun belittling you for it anymore. Finley's scoring and field goal percentage were basically the same every season until he started to break down. That's the definition of consistency. If you can't benefit from 20 points and 44 percent shooting from your captain every game then there's a problem with your team.

He also was at or near the top of the league in minutes played every single year. It seems like you might give a little credit to the horse that carried you when you ride him until he breaks down. Leave it to a bandwagon Maverick fan to criticize him for aging.

[ShoogarBear]

Finley's years as part of the Big 3

1999 41 MPG 20.2 PPG 5.3 RPG 4.4 APG
2000 42 MPG 22.6 PPG 6.3 RPG 5.3 APG
2001 42 MPG 22.5 PPG 5.2 RPG 4.4 APG
2002 40 MPG 20.6 PPG 5.2 RPG 3.3 APG
2003 38 MPG 19.3 PPG 3.5 RPG 3.0 APG
2004 39 MPG 18.6 PPG 4.5 RPG 2.9 APG

Yeah, what a scrub.Perhaps I should have added

1999
Nowitzki 20 MPG 8.2 PPG 3.4 RPG 1.0 APG
Nash 32 MPG 7.9 PPG 2.9 RPG 5.5 APG

2000
Nowitzki 36 MPG 17.5 PPG 6.5 RPG 2.5 APG
Nash 27 MPG 8.6 PPG 2.2 RPG 4.9 APG

And ask who was carrying whom?

[monosylab1k]

For all the great things Mark Cuban has done for the Mavericks, the one thing I will never forgive him for is the way he's turned Mavericks fans against Finley, simply for getting old and getting his balls punched.

[monosylab1k]

I wish I could say your stupidity never ceases to amaze me, but it's become so commonplace it's not even that much fun belittling you for it anymore. Finley's scoring and field goal percentage were basically the same every season until he started to break down. That's the definition of consistency. If you can't benefit from 20 points and 44 percent shooting from your captain every game then there's a problem with your team.

He also was at or near the top of the league in minutes played every single year. It seems like you might give a little credit to the horse that carried you when you ride him until he breaks down. Leave it to a bandwagon Maverick fan to criticize him for aging.
It's really a shame when a Spurs fan knows 10x more about the history of the Mavericks than a guy who dares call himself "mavsfan1000"

[SpursDynasty]

Too bad Nash is stuck playing with a glorified high school player who thinks he's entitled to a championship.

[mavsfan1000]

It's really a shame when a Spurs fan knows 10x more about the history of the Mavericks than a guy who dares call himself "mavsfan1000"
:stfu you holier than thou mavs fan who is always ripping Nowitzki and talking about how boring this season will be. I don't know why you are on here so much if you aren't interested in watching the mavs. I've been well tuned for the last 5 years as what the mavs are doing. There was never a big 3 because Finley was breaking down as Nash and Nowizki started becoming great.

[SpursDynasty]

Also, the Mavs still don't have a Big Three.

[Obstructed_View]

For all the great things Mark Cuban has done for the Mavericks, the one thing I will never forgive him for is the way he's turned Mavericks fans against Finley, simply for getting old and getting his balls punched.
I've never seen such a group of ingrates. It isn't Finley's fault Cuban signed him to a ridiculous contract, nor is it his fault that the Mavericks cut him. He's booed as though he somehow played some part in the decision to part ways with the Mavericks.

[mavsfan1000]

I've never seen such a group of ingrates. It isn't Finley's fault Cuban signed him to a ridiculous contract, nor is it his fault that the Mavericks cut him. He's booed as though he somehow played some part in the decision to part ways with the Mavericks.
They booed him because he went to the mavs biggest rival. I'm sure they like him but are bitter that he went to the Spurs. I don't agree with it but I can see how some feel that way. I think what Nash did was much harsher to us.

[Obstructed_View]

They booed him because he went to the mavs biggest rival. I'm sure they like him but are bitter that he went to the Spurs. I don't agree with it but I can see how some feel that way. I think what Nash did was much harsher to us.
Bullshit. They were bad mouthing him before he ever left. They booed him because Dirk told them to (certainly at Cuban's behest), and the moron asskiss fans did it without bothering to think about it for themselves.

And what Nash "did to you" was not accept 30 million dollars less than Phoenix was offering simply for the privilege of staying with the team whose fanbase was repeating the company mantra that Nash was starting to break down. He went back to the Mavericks and said he'd stay for 50 million, and Cubes wouldn't go above 36.

[monosylab1k]

I've been well tuned for the last 5 years as what the mavs are doing.
:lmao

[monosylab1k]

They were bad mouthing him before he ever left. They booed him because Dirk told them to (certainly at Cuban's behest)
In Dirk's defense, he made those comments tongue-in-cheek. But it's always sickened me to see Mavs fans boo Finley. He gave so much to the Mavericks (his entire career, especially his prime, was wasted on bad Mavs teams) and to boo him really shows what uninformed bandwagoners infest the Mavs fanbase.

[mavsfan1000]

In Dirk's defense, he made those comments tongue-in-cheek.
Yeah exactly and there are bad fans for every team that are like that. I wouldn't call a 5 year dedicated fan a bandwagoner. If I wanted to be a bandwagon fan than I'd root for the Spurs. I just prefer the mavs colors and players over the other teams. I don't plan to abandon them.

[FromWayDowntown]

A "Mavs fan" who discounts the contributions that Michael Finley made, as an All-Star player on that roster, to the evolution of the Mavericks from a perennial doormat to a perennial contender is ridiculous.

Those kinds of takes only perpetuate the belief that a significant percentage of Mavs "fans" are bandwagoners who knew nothing of that team before about 2001.

[mavsfan1000]

A "Mavs fan" who discounts the contributions that Michael Finley made, as an All-Star player on that roster, to the evolution of the Mavericks from a perennial doormat to a perennial contender is ridiculous.

Those kinds of takes only perpetuate the belief that a significant percentage of Mavs "fans" are bandwagoners who knew nothing of that team before about 2001.
What is so bad about bandwagoner if that's your definition. Btw I never discounted what Finley did in the 90's. I discounted on Finley due to breaking down when we needed him the most. His last 2 years with the mavs was not a pretty sight. If he played like he did in the 90's I wouldn't be talking about this and the mavs would've indeed had a big 3. It took me awhile to realize what team I liked the most I guess.

[Dex]

If he played like he did in the 90's I wouldn't be talking about this and the mavs would've indeed had a big 3.

Yeah, and if David Robinson came back tomorrow and started playing like it was 95, then we'd have an answer at Center again. But unfortunately, reality bites sometimes. Players decline eventually, it's just a fact of the game.

Regardless, I never saw George Gervin play a single game in his time. But I still appreciate everything he did for the history of our franchise, even if he didn't bring us a title. Seems like all Mavericks fans should owe Mike Finley that same kind of respect.

Jeez, this guy's not even good at rooting for his OWN team.

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah, and if David Robinson came back tomorrow and started playing like it was 95, then we'd have an answer at Center again. But unfortunately, reality bites sometimes. Players decline eventually, it's just a fact of the game.

Regardless, I never saw George Gervin play a single game in his time. But I still appreciate everything he did for the history of our franchise, even if he didn't bring us a title. Seems like all Mavericks fans should owe Mike Finley that same kind of respect.

Jeez, this guy's not even good at rooting for his OWN team.
I'm just telling it like it is. I'm a fan of Finley but not as much as Nash and Nowitzki. Finley's last good year with the mavs was the year that the Mavs got to the WCF. After that he slipped up in a big way. Maybe injuries had something to do with it but still that is what happened. I agree that reality bites and that is what happened with Finley and that is why he was released.

[FromWayDowntown]

What is so bad about bandwagoner if that's your definition. Btw I never discounted what Finley did in the 90's. I discounted on Finley due to breaking down when we needed him the most. His last 2 years with the mavs was not a pretty sight. If he played like he did in the 90's I wouldn't be talking about this and the mavs would've indeed had a big 3. It took me awhile to realize what team I liked the most I guess.

The problem with being a bandwagoner is in discounting the impact of players by having no perspective to judge them. Michael Finley was monsterous for the Mavs well into the 2000's. For crissakes, in the 2003 WCF, Finley almost single-handedly won Game 5 for the Mavs. He was also the best player on the floor for the Mavericks when they won Game 5 in Utah in 2001.

Pretty tough to me to say that Finley wasn't part of a Big 3 when in the first 3 playoff runs by that Big 3, Finley averaged 19.7, 24.6, and 18.3 as the Mavs experienced their first tastes of playoff success.

In fact, the only year that he could have conceivably "broken down" when there could have been a Big 3 was 2004 -- and the whole Mavs team broke down that year. It's not as if their first round elimination in '04 was solely Finley's responsibility. After 2004, there was no "Big 3" of Dirk, Nash, and Finley, since Nash had departed for Phoenix at the end of that playoff run. I don't think anyone is attempting to argue that Finley was part of a succeeding Big 3 -- mostly because I'm not sure that there has been a succeeding Big 3

Michael Finley was absolutely vital to getting the Mavs over the hump and making them a contender by propelling them into being a top 4-5 team in the West.

[mavsfan1000]

Ok you got a point but the hardest part to trying to avoid being a bandwagoner is rooting for a team with players you don't like from them just because that is the team you are supposed to root for. I'd rather root for a team with players I like which seems to me like the most normal and sane thing to do. I'm just telling it like it is with what happened with Finley. I'll just have to keep saying he's a great guy and unfortunately things didn't work out for him here.

[FromWayDowntown]

Ok you got a point but the hardest part to trying to avoid being a bandwagoner is rooting for a team with players you don't like from them just because that is the team you are supposed to root for. I'd rather root for a team with players I like which seems to me like the most normal and sane thing to do. I'm just telling it like it is with what happened with Finley. I'll just have to keep saying he's a great guy and unfortunately things didn't work out for him here.

I don't give a crap who you root for -- my only point is that it's ridiculous to diminish a player's value when you don't really have any nistorical perspective to measure his value. You don't, obviously, have that kind of perspective when it comes to the Mavs.

Bandwagoner or not, you've got a weak argument here.

Moreover, your argument doesn't make much sense, given that you've already admitted that Finley was a huge part of the Mavs' success up until 2003 -- he was clearly part of a big 3 at that point; the big 3 of Nash, Dirk, and Finley didn't exist after the next season; and the Mavs haven't had a big 3 since then. Given those indisputable truths, I'm not sure how you can say that Finley wasn't a part of the Big 3.

[mavsfan1000]

I don't give a crap who you root for -- my only point is that it's ridiculous to diminish a player's value when you don't really have any nistorical perspective to measure his value. You don't, obviously, have that kind of perspective when it comes to the Mavs.

Bandwagoner or not, you've got a weak argument here.

Moreover, your argument doesn't make much sense, given that you've already admitted that Finley was a huge part of the Mavs' success up until 2003 -- he was clearly part of a big 3 at that point; the big 3 of Nash, Dirk, and Finley didn't exist after the next season; and the Mavs haven't had a big 3 since then. Given those indisputable truths, I'm not sure how you can say that Finley wasn't a part of the Big 3.
Big 3 meaning they were all big at the same time. That is my argument. I guess 2003 was the only year they were all worthy of being called big. Of course their defense was pitiful so maybe that was the bigger reason they couldn't succeed. I didn't mean to discredit Finley in any way.

[The Franchise]

Big 3 meaning they were all big at the same time. That is my argument. I guess 2003 was the only year they were all worthy of being called big. Of course their defense was pitiful so maybe that was the bigger reason they couldn't succeed. I didn't mean to discredit Finley in any way.
Let's just kill all of this. Finley left and guess what? He got a ring!!! Do you think he gives a shit about that broke hip pussy Mark Cuban. He is on a championship team, and what are the rest of the Mavs doing? Licking their wounds wondering what might have been!! Finley is a champion with the Spurs, and Nowitzki is still the fragile whore that he will always be!!! That Nazi trick needs to find his favorite Hasselhoff song and ease his nerves. The Mavs attacking Finley for getting old is like the Spurs doing that to Tim Duncan: UNFORGIVABLE!!!!!! :ihit :nutkick:

[mavsfan1000]

Let's just kill all of this. Finley left and guess what? He got a ring!!! Do you think he gives a shit about that broke hip pussy Mark Cuban. He is on a championship team, and what are the rest of the Mavs doing? Licking their wounds wondering what might have been!! Finley is a champion with the Spurs, and Nowitzki is still the fragile whore that he will always be!!! That Nazi trick needs to find his favorite Hasselhoff song and ease his nerves. The Mavs attacking Finley for getting old is like the Spurs doing that to Tim Duncan: UNFORGIVABLE!!!!!! :ihit :nutkick:
Fuck you asshole. Calling Dirk a Nazi is unforgiveable. I've heard many insults for Dirk but fuck those you call him that. Rockets fans are the worst fans out there. Congrats for Finley on his success with San Antonio but I'm not going to tolerate asshole fans like yourself.

[Reggie Miller]

I always thought of Finley as a quieter version of Reggie Miller. "Quieter" both in the sense that he never received the media hype and the fact that he doesn't have Reggie's big mouth. Their roles for their franchises were very similar in the early stages of their careers. I think Reggie was a slightly better offensive player, but there are a lot of similarities. (Obviously, the Pacers started having some success before the Mavs did, but there are quite a few parallels.)

At any rate, I mention this because to me, this would be the equivalent of judging Miller's career by his play in 2003-2004. Yes, they might not have been one of the three best players on their teams anymore, but both Finley and Miller were always one of the three most important members of the team.

Point of clarificaton: Say what you want to about Finley, but he hasn't resorted to gamesmanship as his skills have declined. I never could decide if I admired him more or lost some respect for Miller over that. There is no question that Michael is a classier dude than Reggie.

[Reggie Miller]

I almost forgot the entire topic of this thread...

Nelson: Nash Best Player He Ever Coached.

I think the reporter misunderstood the context. Nelson actually meant, "I've had better players than Nash on my teams before, but unfortunately, I neglected to actually coach them, since I was busy sweating out a hangover for most of the last two decades."

[yourcheatinheart]

I almost forgot the entire topic of this thread...

Nelson: Nash Best Player He Ever Coached.

I think the reporter misunderstood the context. Nelson actually meant, "I've had better players than Nash on my teams before, but unfortunately, I neglected to actually coach them, since I was busy sweating out a hangover for most of the last two decades."



hahaha, NO.http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q21/meeks4president/503892939_9a3d85849d_o.png

[ShoogarBear]

I think the reporter misunderstood the context. Nelson actually meant, "I've had better players than Nash on my teams before, but unfortunately, I neglected to actually coach them, since I was busy sweating out a hangover for most of the last two decades.":lol

Nelson was a much better coach in his first job with the Bucks, who were actually a good defensive team (Sidney Moncrief, Quinn Buckner, Alton Lister, Harvey Catchings, in addition to Marques Johnson, Junior Bridgeman and Bob Lanier). Somewhere along the way he became more enamored with being known for his gimmicks and winning Coach of the Year awards than with winning a championship.

[FromWayDowntown]

Somewhere along the way he became more enamored with being known for his gimmicks and winning Coach of the Year awards than with winning a championship.

A hand can only hold 5 rings and Nellie has covered his non-drinking hand with a full complement.