New England Patriots vs. Dallas Cowboys. [Archive]

popshark86

10-09-2007, 12:13 AM

Pats wont have a walk in the park Sunday. Fucking haters thinking Dallas is a bad team all of a sudden.

there not bad
but there not even close to the pats and colts

one of my buddies told me the bills rank 32 on defense and 31 on offense, don't know if its true, to lazy to search myself

titans > cowboys
texans > cowboys

Dirk Nowitzki

10-09-2007, 12:15 AM

37-20! Who in the fuck is your qb now that Green is out. Why dont you worry about your team picking up a qb that isnt a piece of shit. Gotta love a Fins fan talking shit. :clap :clap :clap

popshark86

10-09-2007, 12:19 AM

37-20! Who in the fuck is your qb now that Green is out. Why dont you worry about your team picking up a qb that isnt a piece of shit. Gotta love a Fins fan talking shit. :clap :clap :clap

our qb is john beck, who is learning

cam doesn't want to throw him out to the lions den yet, our o line is not that good for a rookie qb

green is going to get release after this year, one year contract

accuracy
beck > romo

arm strength
beck > romo

your the one who should be worried about your qb
romo the next rex grossman

Tippecanoe

10-09-2007, 12:22 AM

this is gonna be one hell of a game

new england 34, dallas 24

Horry For 3!

10-09-2007, 12:29 AM

our qb is john beck, who is learning

cam doesn't want to throw him out to the lions den yet, our o line is not that good for a rookie qb

green is going to get release after this year, one year contract

accuracy
beck > romo

arm strength
beck > romo

your the one who should be worried about your qb
romo the next rex grossman
You are an idiot. Beck hasn't even played in an NFL Regular season game. So how can he be better than Romo? :lmao

popshark86

10-09-2007, 12:32 AM

You are an idiot. Beck hasn't even played in an NFL Regular season game. So how can he be better than Romo? :lmao

beck can actually throw the ball with good accuracy

If Beck was with the cowboys, all the talent Romo has around, wow

any starting qb in the nfl can play good with the cowboys offense

even rex

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 12:39 AM

Fucking haters thinking Dallas is a bad team all of a sudden.Who have they beaten that would prove otherwise?

Although they did win today, they showed how overhyped they really are.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-09-2007, 12:41 AM

Who have they beaten that would prove otherwise?

Although they did win today, they showed how overhyped they really are.

Who the fuck have the Pats beaten that was good? Browns,Jets,Bills,Chargers,Bengals? Those arent much better. Stop talking please. :spin

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 12:41 AM

Who have they beaten that would prove otherwise?

Although they did win today, they showed how overhyped they really are.
And after looking at the rest of your schedule, I wouldn't be surprised to see you go 15-1, only to get your asses handed to you by the first AFC team you face.

It must be nice to be in the NFC.

dougp

10-09-2007, 12:45 AM

TSA - you're a chargers fan ... you don't even belong in the same room as a Cowboys/Pats/Colts fans ... wanna fuckin talk about an overhyped team coming into the season.

Vinnie_Johnson

10-09-2007, 12:46 AM

Look for Moss to have a huge game he always does in Dallas.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-09-2007, 12:47 AM

Look for Moss to have a huge game he always does in Dallas.

Look for Owens to step it up as well.

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 12:49 AM

TSA - you're a chargers fan ... you don't even belong in the same room as a Cowboys/Pats/Colts fans ... wanna fuckin talk about an overhyped team coming into the season.:lol @ Cowboys fans putting themselves in the same league as Pats/Colts. I will admit we aren't back up to par with the Pats/Colts yet, but we've sure beaten both of them more recently than your team. And I guarantee you come the end of the season the Pats/Colts would much rather face the Cowboys than the Chargers.

O-Factor

10-09-2007, 12:54 AM

:lol @ Cowboys fans putting themselves in the same league as Pats/Colts. I will admit we aren't back up to par with the Pats/Colts yet, but we've sure beaten both of them more recently than your team. And I guarantee you come the end of the season the Pats/Colts would much rather face the Cowboys than the Chargers.

:lmao @ anything charger

O-Factor

10-09-2007, 12:56 AM

Oh, I like how Tony Romo is the only QB in the league who is not allowed to have a bad game once this season, and still fucking win. That shows the respect Cowboy haters have for him.

TheZackAttack!

10-09-2007, 12:57 AM

beck can actually throw the ball with good accuracy

If Beck was with the cowboys, all the talent Romo has around, wow

any starting qb in the nfl can play good with the cowboys offense

even rex

You are clearly the stupidest fuck on here aren't you. I mean you are a dolphin fan, but even thats no excuse for your ignorance.

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 01:01 AM

:lmao @ anything chargerCare to expand? Ask J.T. or Mono who they'd fear playing more at the end of the season?

O-Factor

10-09-2007, 01:06 AM

Care to expand? Ask J.T. or Mono who they'd fear playing more at the end of the season?

Care to expand???? What have you not been watching your chargers all season???? Do I have to explain it to you or are you just dumb? Im sure Mono would love to play you all in the playoffs(but you all wont make them) since they have proved the chargers are their bitch. It would be an easy win for the pats against you all...a cakewalk.

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 01:09 AM

Im sure Mono would love to play you all in the playoffs(but you all wont make them) since they have proved the chargers are their bitch. It would be an easy win for the pats against you all...a cakewalk.Just like it was a cakewalk last year?http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

Again, as much as I hate the Pats, they will stomp you and show you what the AFC is all about. The fucking Raiders could make the playoffs if they played in the NFC.

popshark86

10-09-2007, 01:10 AM

You are clearly the stupidest fuck on here aren't you. I mean you are a dolphin fan, but even thats no excuse for your ignorance.

cowboys and romo overrated by espn year after year

even tough the nfc sucks and the cowboys have a chance of making to the bowl

im pretty sure down the road romo and the boys will fucked it up, like always

lol at cowboys fans, your not better than the chargers

inconvertible

10-09-2007, 01:11 AM

memo to dallas. RUN THE FUCKING BALL A LOT MORE.

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 01:14 AM

lol at cowboys fans, your not better than the chargersBut the Power Rankings say so!!!

O-Factor

10-09-2007, 01:14 AM

Just like it was a cakewalk last year?http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

Who gives a shit about last year? We are in this year now.

Again, as much as I hate the Pats, they will stomp you and show you what the AFC is all about. The fucking Raiders could make the playoffs if they played in the NFC.

Now I know you are a fucking idiot. Raiders? Shut the fuck up......The Pats are really fucking good and if they win, it won't be by much, not like they handed the Chargers their ass in week 2.

O-Factor

10-09-2007, 01:16 AM

lol at cowboys fans, your not better than the chargers

bills>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fins

fuck the chargers, we'd kick the shit out of them.

popshark86

10-09-2007, 01:17 AM

Who gives a shit about last year? We are in this year now.

Now I know you are a fucking idiot. Raiders? Shut the fuck up......The Pats are really fucking good and if they win, it won't be by much, not like they handed the Chargers their ass in week 2.

week 1 and 2 shouldn't tell you how good the team is

just look at the giants

are the cowboys playing the raiders this year

how many ints will romo throw

TheZackAttack!

10-09-2007, 01:19 AM

week 1 and 2 shouldn't tell you how good the team is

just look at the giants

are the cowboys playing the raiders this year

how many ints will romo throw

the stat you should look at is the 4th Quarter comeback dip shit. He threw 5 picks and still had the balls at the end of the game to pull out a win.

popshark86

10-09-2007, 01:19 AM

bills>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fins

fuck the chargers, we'd kick the shit out of them.

bills + fins = same shit

chargers >>>>>>>>>>>> cowboys
raiders>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cowboys
titans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cowboys
texans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cowboys
LSU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cowboys

TheZackAttack!

10-09-2007, 01:20 AM

bills + fins = same shit

chargers >>>>>>>>>>>> cowboys
raiders>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cowboys
titans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cowboys
texans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cowboys
LSU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cowboys

I won't even acknowledge your ignorance, but I will say this....
fins=shit

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 01:21 AM

The Pats are really fucking good and if they win, it won't be by much, I challenge you to the often hated SanityAnnex sig bet.

Dallas doesn't get their ass kicked, I sport a sig of your choice for a week. Dallas gets their ass kicked, you sport a sig of my choice for a week.

popshark86

10-09-2007, 01:22 AM

the stat you should look at is the 4th Quarter comeback dip shit. He threw 5 picks and still had the balls at the end of the game to pull out a win.

dip shit

if it wasnt for the the cowboys d, barber, witten, and the kicker romo would have gotten benched a long time ago

what 4th comeback did romo exactly had

4th quarter
romo hikes the ball, passes a 3 yard pass to barber, barber takes it for 14 yards.

wow romo is god

popshark86

10-09-2007, 01:22 AM

I won't even acknowledge your ignorance, but I will say this....
fins=shit

i would have to agree on that one

dammit

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 01:23 AM

the stat you should look at is the 4th Quarter comeback dip shit. He threw 5 picks and still had the balls at the end of the game to pull out a win.Not really. Buffalo is just that bad that they can't capitalize on five picks.

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 01:24 AM

I challenge you to the often hated SanityAnnex sig bet.

Dallas doesn't get their ass kicked, I sport a sig of your choice for a week. Dallas gets their ass kicked, you sport a sig of my choice for a week.You'll be sporting something along these lines if you sack up and take the bet.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/underseth/rivers2.jpg

O-Factor

10-09-2007, 01:28 AM

I challenge you to the often hated SanityAnnex sig bet.

Dallas doesn't get their ass kicked, I sport a sig of your choice for a week. Dallas gets their ass kicked, you sport a sig of my choice for a week.

:lmao Im superstitious and not stupid enough to take a bet and fuck my cowboys fandom Karma. A win is far more valuable than having an idiot I don't even know sport a sig by me. I have too much respect for the Pats team.

O-Factor

10-09-2007, 01:32 AM

You'll be sporting something along these lines if you sack up and take the bet.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/underseth/rivers2.jpg

WOW, you have this pic saved on your photobucket???? What a fag....

TheZackAttack!

10-09-2007, 01:34 AM

Fillmoe

10-09-2007, 02:50 AM

i hope homo has another 4 int game

J.T.

10-09-2007, 04:02 AM

http://www.indy500.com/news/2007/images/peyton-300-03142007.jpg

Pats ain't got shit on us right now.

Chargers and Boys beat us the last time we played each but our D is different from last year and in 05 we had seeding secured. Doesn't change a W to a L but I think the Colts are playing better now than they have in past seasons, including last year. They have depth, don't panic, and haven't been turning it over very much. And Peyton Manning is our QB. That guy's pretty good...

I'm sure most convicted pedophiles will be jealous of the way we rape the Pats secondary in Week 9 but that's still a few weeks ahead.

FWIW I think the Pats will win this game, but I'll root for the Boys anyway since I hate the Pats infinitely more than I hate the Boys.

NBA Junkie

10-09-2007, 04:31 AM

Remember last season when nobody gave the Cowboys much of a chance to beat the Colts when they came into Texas Stadium undefeated in mid-November?

Could happen again!

J.T.

10-09-2007, 04:38 AM

Remember last season when nobody gave the Cowboys much of a chance to beat the Colts when they came into Texas Stadium undefeated in mid-November?

Could happen again!

I remember the Colts defense sucking copious amounts of cock and giving up record yards per game against the run and lost to the Cowboys.

The Colts were winning close games when they were 9-0 last year. The Pats have been winning in blowouts, but against crap teams or teams playing like crap. The Boys can beat them but not if Romo throws that many picks or if TO keeps dropping passes in the clutch. Cuz you can bet Randy Moss won't drop those same passes if the Pats are in that position.

kskonn

10-09-2007, 07:20 AM

i hope homo has another 4 int game
Speaking of Sig bets, what happened filmoe? You bet me a Sig on the Cowboys rams game and lost, I put a Sig in the thread for you and you never owned up??? thats not right.

J.T.

10-09-2007, 07:27 AM

Speaking of Sig bets, what happened filmoe? You bet me a Sig on the Cowboys rams game and lost, I put a Sig in the thread for you and you never owned up??? thats not right.

Fillmoe doesn't fight battles he knows he won't win. You got played by trying to make a bet with him. You may as well be asking him to go down on Nocal510.

stretch

10-09-2007, 08:03 AM

there not bad
but there not even close to the pats and colts

one of my buddies told me the bills rank 32 on defense and 31 on offense, don't know if its true, to lazy to search myself

titans > cowboys
texans > cowboys
5-0

0-5

stretch

10-09-2007, 08:04 AM

our qb is john beck, who is learning

cam doesn't want to throw him out to the lions den yet, our o line is not that good for a rookie qb

green is going to get release after this year, one year contract

accuracy
beck > romo

arm strength
beck > romo

your the one who should be worried about your qb
romo the next rex grossman
You must be retarded. They aren't even starting John Beck. They are starting Cleo Lemon.

5-0

0-5

stretch

10-09-2007, 08:05 AM

And after looking at the rest of your schedule, I wouldn't be surprised to see you go 15-1, only to get your asses handed to you by the first AFC team you face.

It must be nice to be in the NFC.
Oakland > Chargers

:lmao

stretch

10-09-2007, 08:07 AM

Oh, I like how Tony Romo is the only QB in the league who is not allowed to have a bad game once this season, and still fucking win. That shows the respect Cowboy haters have for him.
Yea. I went back and looked at Tom Brady's stats, and every year hes been the starter except for 2002, he had at least 1 four interception game. All QBs have shitty days. I'm not sure what makes these idiots here think that Romo can't be allowed to have one.

monosylab1k

10-09-2007, 08:29 AM

Care to expand? Ask J.T. or Mono who they'd fear playing more at the end of the season?
If the Chargers regain form (one week isn't enough to convince me), I would absolutely hate playing them in the playoffs, especially cuz they'll be super pissed as well. I still think New England is just plain better, but if San Diego gets some momentum they could be hell.

It won't happen tho. Norv Turner.

stretch

10-09-2007, 08:34 AM

lol, Norv Turner

monosylab1k

10-09-2007, 08:36 AM

Yea. I went back and looked at Tom Brady's stats, and every year hes been the starter except for 2002, he had at least 1 four interception game. All QBs have shitty days. I'm not sure what makes these idiots here think that Romo can't be allowed to have one.
I can't talk for other QB's, but here's three reasons why Brady gets a pass for a bad game -

http://www.sportspool.com/football/super_bowl/Superbowl_XXXVI_ring.jpg http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/0/x/4/patriots_XXXVIII.jpg http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/0/_/5/SuperBowlXXXIX.jpg

not sure Tony Romo has the skins on the wall to get a free pass for bad games.

Extra Stout

10-09-2007, 08:45 AM

Patriots > Cowboys

The Cowboys are very good; the Patriots have the look of an historic juggernaut.

monosylab1k

10-09-2007, 08:46 AM

Holt's Cat

10-09-2007, 08:47 AM

I think the Cowboys take this game but the Pats will take the Super Bowl.

stretch

10-09-2007, 08:58 AM

I can't talk for other QB's, but here's three reasons why Brady gets a pass for a bad game -

http://www.sportspool.com/football/super_bowl/Superbowl_XXXVI_ring.jpg http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/0/x/4/patriots_XXXVIII.jpg http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/0/_/5/SuperBowlXXXIX.jpg

not sure Tony Romo has the skins on the wall to get a free pass for bad games.
Dude, I'm not even taking a shot at Brady, don't get so defensive. My point is, is that all QBs will have a bad game from time to time. Brady had a 4 pick game the year he won the first SB. But he had no rings at that times, so that doesn't mean he deserved a free pass. The fact is, all QB's, whether young or old, will have a bad game from time to time. Its all about how they respond to the bad game, that matters.

StylisticS

10-09-2007, 09:03 AM

Speaking of Sig bets, what happened filmoe? You bet me a Sig on the Cowboys rams game and lost, I put a Sig in the thread for you and you never owned up??? thats not right.

When something goes wrong for him, he does not show his face until it all just passes by. :lol

monosylab1k

10-09-2007, 09:04 AM

Dude, I'm not even taking a shot at Brady, don't get so defensive. My point is, is that all QBs will have a bad game from time to time. Brady had a 4 pick game the year he won the first SB. But he had no rings at that times, so that doesn't mean he deserved a free pass. The fact is, all QB's, whether young or old, will have a bad game from time to time. Its all about how they respond to the bad game, that matters.
If Romo wasn't 5 starts into his second year as a starter he might not get questioned so much.

It took Brady winning a second ring before everyone was convinced he was a franchise QB. Romo's played well but he hasn't proven shit. And a 5 INT game (that easily could have been an 8 INT game) against Buffalo deserves scrutiny.

TMSKILZ

10-09-2007, 09:37 AM

Dal wins this game!

Romo for MVP2008!

Walter Craparita

10-09-2007, 09:47 AM

lol at least we don't have to put Romo on suicide watch after a loss. lol @ LT

The fact that everyone is so quick to bash Romo speaks for itself. Only the GREAT teams are hated. Current team= great, no. But you get what I'm saying.

Boys will get massacred on Sunday. It's all good, I just want to see them in the Super Bowl.

stretch

10-09-2007, 09:50 AM

If Romo wasn't 5 starts into his second year as a starter he might not get questioned so much.

It took Brady winning a second ring before everyone was convinced he was a franchise QB. Romo's played well but he hasn't proven shit. And a 5 INT game (that easily could have been an 8 INT game) against Buffalo deserves scrutiny.
I never said there is a problem with people questioning him. I simply said all QB's have bad games from time to time, and to say that just one bad game means they suck is utterly ridiculous. And he also deserves props, because despite his horrible game, he still found a way to make plays, and lead an 80 yard TD drive at the end, as well as another quick drive with 18 seconds left to put his team in FG range. It takes incredible balls to do that. Not many QBs in league history could have had the balls to overcome a bad game the way Romo did. The only QBs today that could have MAYBE done what Romo did last night is Tom Brady and Vince Young.

Findog

10-09-2007, 10:20 AM

Patriots versus Cowboys. Let the Smug Bowl commence.

SpursFanFirst

10-09-2007, 10:22 AM

I think the Cowboys take this game but the Pats will take the Super Bowl.

You mean...if it came down to these to teams in the SB...the Patriots would win.
you're not forgetting the Colts, are you?

Holt's Cat

10-09-2007, 10:27 AM

Did I state the Cowboys will be in the SB?

LilMissSPURfect

10-09-2007, 10:43 AM

dam good game last night .....makes for a better one on Sunday!! get out da BARBACOA !!!!!!

SpursFanFirst

10-09-2007, 10:52 AM

Did I state the Cowboys will be in the SB?
I misread...but I still don't think the Pats will be in the SB if the Colts are still this good come the playoffs. I'd like to see the Pats play a game without 5 key starters...if it wasn't for the stupid mistakes by Cleveland's QB (of which, there were MANY) on Sunday...the Patriots might've lost.

leemajors

10-09-2007, 11:41 AM

ifs, buts, candies, nuts.

J.T.

10-09-2007, 11:45 AM

Yea. I went back and looked at Tom Brady's stats, and every year hes been the starter except for 2002, he had at least 1 four interception game. All QBs have shitty days. I'm not sure what makes these idiots here think that Romo can't be allowed to have one.

1. Which team most recently intercepted Tom Brady four times?
[_]A. Indianapolis Colts
[_]B. Indianapolis Colts
[_]C. Indianapolis Colts
[_]D. Indianapolis Colts
[_]E. All of the above

I always preferred multiple choice.

mardigan

10-09-2007, 11:46 AM

I'll take your bet TSA. What do you want to bet, that the Boys dont get blown out? I'll go ahead and say that the Boys will win this game, so we can bet on that.

J.T.

10-09-2007, 11:48 AM

Someone make an avatar bet with monosylab1k because I'm sick of that fucking Randy Moss picture.

Findog

10-09-2007, 11:55 AM

Someone make an avatar bet with monosylab1k because I'm sick of that fucking Randy Moss picture.

If the Pats lose, he should change his avatar to Bridget Moynahan.

Fabbs

10-09-2007, 12:00 PM

:lmao Im superstitious and not stupid enough to take a bet and fuck my cowboys fandom Karma. A win is far more valuable than having an idiot I don't even know sport a sig by me. I have too much respect for the Pats team.
bok bok bok bok Ba Gawk

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 12:12 PM

I'll go ahead and say that the Boys will win this game, so we can bet on that.You got it. Sig for a week.

peewee's lovechild

10-09-2007, 01:08 PM

only to get your asses handed to you by the first AFC team you face.

They already faced an AFC team, and they won.

mardigan

10-09-2007, 01:14 PM

They already faced an AFC team, and they won.
2 AFC teams, and won

peewee's lovechild

10-09-2007, 01:16 PM

2 AFC teams, and won

True that.

monosylab1k

10-09-2007, 01:29 PM

Someone make an avatar bet with monosylab1k because I'm sick of that fucking Randy Moss picture.
How bout this

If the Patriots lose to the Colts, I'll sport an Adam Vinatieri Colts avatar until the playoffs. This is the worst possible punishment because there is nobody on this earth that I despise more than that rat bastard traitor prick. I'd rather have dinner with Bin Laden and Kim Jong Il than even be seen eating in the same room as Vinatieri.

And if the Colts lose you have to sport a Brady avatar.

Deal?

PS - I really regret my use of the word "sport" in this post, it's such a douchey way to say things.

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 01:29 PM

They already faced an AFC team, and they won.An AFC playoff team.

You just can't pick and choose what to respond to.

Poopshark86

10-09-2007, 01:31 PM

Yeah like the Chargers are anything good.

I don't like da Boys but at least I can make a judgement without hate....you don't now how!

mardigan

10-09-2007, 02:12 PM

An AFC playoff team.

You just can't pick and choose what to respond to.
You didnt say anything about playoff teams

And after looking at the rest of your schedule, I wouldn't be surprised to see you go 15-1, only to get your asses handed to you by the first AFC team you face.

It must be nice to be in the NFC.

How did that Charger/Packers game go? Must be nice to play in the shitty division the Chargers do. I wish I could root for a team that could be a half game behind the lead for the division through 5 weeks with 2 wins

mardigan

10-09-2007, 02:41 PM

There are as many good teams in the NFC as there are in the AFC, the NFC just doesnt have the two elite teams.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-09-2007, 02:44 PM

As far as Pats-Cowboys, I think the Cowboys have a decent shot at winning this game. I don't think New England is way better, and if the Patriots don't bring their A-game, the Cowboys will win.

But, if both teams DO bring their A-games, New England wins this without a doubt.

I'm gonna say Patriots 34-Cowboys 27

It's also very possible that the Patriots blow out the Cowboys, but there's no way in hell the Cowboys blow out the Patriots.

The only way the Pats will blow Dallas out is on X-Box 360. Dont expect a blowout from either team. :downspin: :downspin: This game is going to go to be decided late in the 4th. Owens will have a great game as should Romo while Brady and Moss should be on fire as well. Pats secondary isnt horrible but it isnt as great as it was during their 3 titles in 4 years. I expect both teams to score points and a good amount of them as well.

Right now I have to say Indy is the best team in the league at the moment. They have 5 starters out and have played much tougher teams than the Cowboys/Pats have. They also play in MUCH TOUGHER division. Jags,Titans,Texans :dramaquee

Poopshark86

10-09-2007, 02:45 PM

To needs to hold on to tha ball.

Over-rated.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-09-2007, 02:46 PM

To needs to hold on to tha ball.

Over-rated.

How is Ted-Ginn Jr working out as your #9 pick?

Poopshark86

10-09-2007, 02:47 PM

Badazz...best wr in the draft.

all-pro next year.

samikeyp

10-09-2007, 02:54 PM

:lmao

Oh...you were serious about that.

:lmao

TheSanityAnnex

10-09-2007, 04:45 PM

You didnt say anything about playoff teams

I said I wouldn't be surprised to see you go 15-1, which would mean the next AFC team you faced would be a playoff team.

mardigan

10-09-2007, 04:48 PM

I said I wouldn't be surprised to see you go 15-1, which would mean the next AFC team you faced would be a playoff team.
Thats probably true, but I'll take getting to the S.B. and losing over losing in the first round again

peewee's lovechild

10-10-2007, 08:38 AM

An AFC playoff team.

You just can't pick and choose what to respond to.

I was responding to this:

only to get your asses handed to you by the first AFC team you face.

I didn't pick and choose a damn thing.

You're brilliant.

TheSanityAnnex

10-10-2007, 01:09 PM

I didn't pick and choose a damn thing.Really?

Here was my statement in it's entirety.

And after looking at the rest of your schedule, I wouldn't be surprised to see you go 15-1, only to get your asses handed to you by the first AFC team you face.The first AFC team you'd face in the situation I described would be an AFC playoff team.
Anyways, we could round and round all day. What's the point?

I'm counting down the days till Mardigan has to sport a sig.

BeerIsGood!

10-10-2007, 01:48 PM

samikeyp

10-10-2007, 02:03 PM

No matter what the Cowboys do this weekend, the haters will be out. If NE wins, it will be "I told you so" if Dallas wins, some excuse for NE will be made. Those who hate the Cowboys solely because they are the Cowboys (or any team for that matter) are incapable of objective thought.

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:10 PM

the Cowboys' defense has been much better in the last 3 games than the Pats defense.
did they now?

The Cowboys played three of the worst offensive teams in the league.

The Patriots played Cincy (high powered offense), Buffalo (total crap), and Cleveland (dropped 50 in a game already), not to mention San Diego, and the most they've allowed in one game this season is 17.

So against Buffalo they allowed one TD on defense and Cowboys allowed one FG. That proves it, the Cowboys have been MUCH better. Too bad the Patriots also didn't have a special teams breakdown or a complete meltdown on offense.

And don't be so quick to discount the Giants game. Plaxico Burress torched the shit out of them. The Cowboys haven't faced a large athletic receiver like Plaxico since that game. The closest things to Plaxico they've faced are Chris Chambers & Bernard Berrian who went 9 catches, 109 yards and 6 catches, 73 yards respectively. Not too shabby for either. And they're nowhere near as talented as Plaxico. This week they're about to go up against Plaxico times 10000000000000.

popshark86

10-10-2007, 02:13 PM

I don't know who will win the game on Sunday, but it's hilarious to see some of these "analysts" bringing up the record of the Cowboys opponents as some sort of proof that they are overrated when in fact the Pats opponents have just as horrible a record. The Pats have been more consistent in terms of margin of victory throughout the season against bad to mediocre teams than the Cowboys have against bad to mediocre teams, but the Cowboys' defense has been much better in the last 3 games than the Pats defense. Take out the week 1 defensive disaster while they were getting accustomed to the new scheme and this defense is the best in the NFL. They threw a shutout a week ago and only gave up 3 points in a game in which their offense had 6 turnovers! I hope NE comes in believing the hype and overconfident because they'll get shut down if they underestimate this Cowboys defense.

We all know what Tom Brady and Bill Belicheck can do.

It took a couple of super bowls before people started to realize how good Bill belicheck is.

The Patriots were good on offense and defense without that much talent. Now they have Randy Moss, Adelius Thomas, Stallworth, Welker, and one of the best qbs ever to play in the NFL.

people dont see Romo as an elite qb and thats one of the reason why they think the cowboys are overrated

i guess you need a qb like manning and brady to be consider an elite team

i would take the pats d over the boys d anytime, im pretty sure the bengals offense would destroy the cowboys d

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:13 PM

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:19 PM

did they now?

The Cowboys played three of the worst offensive teams in the league.

The Patriots played Cincy (high powered offense), Buffalo (total crap), and Cleveland (dropped 50 in a game already), not to mention San Diego, and the most they've allowed in one game this season is 17.

So against Buffalo they allowed one TD on defense and Cowboys allowed one FG. That proves it, the Cowboys have been MUCH better. Too bad the Patriots also didn't have a special teams breakdown or a complete meltdown on offense.

And don't be so quick to discount the Giants game. Plaxico Burress torched the shit out of them. The Cowboys haven't faced a large athletic receiver like Plaxico since that game. The closest things to Plaxico they've faced are Chris Chambers & Bernard Berrian who went 9 catches, 109 yards and 6 catches, 73 yards respectively. Not too shabby for either. And they're nowhere near as talented as Plaxico. This week they're about to go up against Plaxico times 10000000000000.
They also didn't have a healthy Terrence Newman, and remember that Jacque Reeves was playing his first game, and for some ridiculous reason was put on Plaxico. No way in hell does he go off if Newman is on him.

BeerIsGood!

10-10-2007, 02:22 PM

I don't think it means much for either team other than it's another regular season game. It means a bit more for the Cowboys since it's a home game, and you definitely don't want to lose home games, but they are 5-0 and in prime position to win the division with or without a win.

The fact remains that the Pats have played just as weak of competition as the Cowboys but are getting a pass on it for whatever reason. It won't matter come Sunday, but I do wish the only decent media sources we have for the NFL would be a little better with their analysis. Here's the story about this game - if either team makes mistakes the other team will beat the shit out of them. That's the way it works when two teams of this caliber play each other, you can't get away with mistakes.

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:22 PM

They also didn't have a healthy Terrence Newman, and remember that Jacque Reeves was playing his first game, and for some ridiculous reason was put on Plaxico. No way in hell does he go off if Newman is on him.
jacque reeves played reasonably well against the Giants. Roy Williams was the problem. Unless Roy is up to finally covering someone, I don't know how they contain Moss.

And Newman doesn't appear to be running at 100%. Last season he would have taken that INT back for 6 without any trouble. Lee Evans is fast but not Newman fast. and unless Newman is at 100% speed, I don't see him being able to hang with Moss.

BeerIsGood!

10-10-2007, 02:24 PM

did they now?

The Cowboys played three of the worst offensive teams in the league.

The Patriots played Cincy (high powered offense), Buffalo (total crap), and Cleveland (dropped 50 in a game already), not to mention San Diego, and the most they've allowed in one game this season is 17.

So against Buffalo they allowed one TD on defense and Cowboys allowed one FG. That proves it, the Cowboys have been MUCH better. Too bad the Patriots also didn't have a special teams breakdown or a complete meltdown on offense.

And don't be so quick to discount the Giants game. Plaxico Burress torched the shit out of them. The Cowboys haven't faced a large athletic receiver like Plaxico since that game. The closest things to Plaxico they've faced are Chris Chambers & Bernard Berrian who went 9 catches, 109 yards and 6 catches, 73 yards respectively. Not too shabby for either. And they're nowhere near as talented as Plaxico. This week they're about to go up against Plaxico times 10000000000000.

Cincy sucks. They are living on hype from previous years and they aren't worth a shit this year. Same with SD.

The Giants game was the 1st of the season, and the the first game in that defensive scheme. It doesn't hold much water.

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:26 PM

Cincy sucks. They are living on hype from previous years and they aren't worth a shit this year. Same with SD.
Cincy's offense is just as potent as ever. but say whatever will convince you that Dallas is on New England's level.

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:28 PM

jacque reeves played reasonably well against the Giants. Roy Williams was the problem. Unless Roy is up to finally covering someone, I don't know how they contain Moss.

And Newman doesn't appear to be running at 100%. Last season he would have taken that INT back for 6 without any trouble. Lee Evans is fast but not Newman fast. and unless Newman is at 100% speed, I don't see him being able to hang with Moss.
My point was that Reeves had never started, nor gotten matched up against a reciever of that caliber. Yes, I felt that he played well, but there were a lot of things that Newman would never have let Plaxico do if he was guarding him.

And no one is going to shut Moss down, except himself. But if there is anyone that can contain him, its Newman. I'll tell you this, there is a much better chance that Newman can contain Moss than Asante Samuel containing T.O. T.O. will abuse that guy, much like he did in the Superbowl on a BROKEN LEG.

BeerIsGood!

10-10-2007, 02:29 PM

jacque reeves played reasonably well against the Giants. Roy Williams was the problem. Unless Roy is up to finally covering someone, I don't know how they contain Moss.

And Newman doesn't appear to be running at 100%. Last season he would have taken that INT back for 6 without any trouble. Lee Evans is fast but not Newman fast. and unless Newman is at 100% speed, I don't see him being able to hang with Moss.

They'll roll the safety Watkins over on Moss to take away his height advantage, and to be honest it's not really Moss I'm concerned with. It comes down to 2 things - hitting the shit out of Brady and keeping guys like Welker, Watson, and Stallworth from going off. Most of that goes with getting hits on Brady and making him uncomfortable throughout the game. I know this sounds bad, but I wouldn't be above having a defensive lineman or LB take a very hard shot on Brady early to get in his head, even if it has to be late. If anything it'll muck up the game and make everyone pissed off, and I think that kind of game takes NE out of their comfort zone and favors the Cowboys. That's probably going too far, but I'm a crazy bastard.

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:30 PM

My point was that Reeves had never started, nor gotten matched up against a reciever of that caliber. Yes, I felt that he played well, but there were a lot of things that Newman would never have let Plaxico do if he was guarding him.

And no one is going to shut Moss down, except himself. But if there is anyone that can contain him, its Newman. I'll tell you this, there is a much better chance that Newman can contain Moss than Asante Samuel containing T.O. T.O. will abuse that guy, much like he did in the Superbowl on a BROKEN LEG.
Samuel won't have to cover him if TO is going to drop everything thrown his way :lmao

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:31 PM

I know this sounds bad, but I wouldn't be above having a defensive lineman or LB take a very hard shot on Brady early to get in his head, even if it has to be late.
Get in Brady's head? :lmao Cowboys fans are funny!

BeerIsGood!

10-10-2007, 02:31 PM

Cincy's offense is just as potent as ever. but say whatever will convince you that Dallas is on New England's level.

Say whatever will convince you that NE has played anybody worth a shit. I admit that Dallas hasn't played a tough schedule, but I can also see that NE hasn't either. Cincy is no longer a great offense, just a decent one that is mistake prone.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-10-2007, 02:32 PM

Cincy's offense is just as potent as ever. but say whatever will convince you that Dallas is on New England's level.

:rolleyes :rolleyes AT Dallas not having the potiential to be on New Englands level this season. What a load of horseshit. As amazing as the Pats are, they arent unbeatable.

BeerIsGood!

10-10-2007, 02:34 PM

Get in Brady's head? :lmao Cowboys fans are funny!

Like I said, it's a crazy thought. But, when it comes down to it, if there were millions of dollars on the line and a shot at the glory I'd break a mofo's arm, leg, or neck to win. But that's just because I'm as mad as a hatter and sadistic to boot.

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:34 PM

:rolleyes :rolleyes AT Dallas not having the potiential to be on New Englands level this season. What a load of horseshit. As amazing as the Pats are, they arent unbeatable.

If Dallas is going to beat New England, they better do it on Sunday because that's the last time they'll be beating New England this year.

New England is concerned with a Super Bowl, not Dallas in week 6.

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:34 PM

Samuel won't have to cover him if TO is going to drop everything thrown his way :lmao
That won't be a problem for T.O., especially since Samuel is his bitch. He knows that hes going to mow his overrated ass over on every catch he gets.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-10-2007, 02:35 PM

If Dallas is going to beat New England, they better do it on Sunday because that's the last time they'll be beating New England this year.

New England is concerned with a Super Bowl, not Dallas in week 6.

Samething could have been said when the Rams/Pats played week 11 during the 2001-2002 season. Rams were having superbowl talks while the Pats were seen as just a playoff team. Rams beat them and yet the results were different in the superbowl.

Dallas is concerned with a superbowl as well. Again the Pats arent unbeatable. They havent won a superbowl in almost 3 years.

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:35 PM

Get in Brady's head? :lmao Cowboys fans are funny!
Are you kidding? After getting hit a couple times against Cincy, he was acting like a total bitch, which was very unusual for Brady, but he was bitching at the refs over EVERYTHING, and they gave him the most shitty ass calls too.

BeerIsGood!

10-10-2007, 02:36 PM

It'll be a good game and in the end will just be another regular season W or L for either team.

If they do meet in the Super Bowl all bets are off. The Cowboys could beat NE in the Superbowl.

mardigan

10-10-2007, 02:36 PM

Cincy sucks. They are living on hype from previous years and they aren't worth a shit this year. Same with SD.

The Giants game was the 1st of the season, and the the first game in that defensive scheme. It doesn't hold much water.
Not to mention that Ellis was out, and they lost their starting nose tackle for the year in that game in the first quarter. The d has gotten much better since the first two weeks.
And I wouldnt say Newman isnt 100% because Evans caught him, Evans is one of the fastest guys in the league.
To me, it all comes down to if Henry is playing. If Reeves has to guard Stallworth the d will be in trouble if they arent getting pressure. I already think the d will have trouble with Reeves on Welker. I dont think the Pats will be able to run the ball, and I do think the Boys will pressure Brady. It will all be up to the offense imo.

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:37 PM

Samething could have been said when the Rams/Pats played week 11 during the 2001-2002 season. Rams were having superbowl talks while the Pats were seen as just a playoff team. Rams beat them and yet the results were different in the superbowl.
Well now, that is all a tarnished memory, as we now know that Bellicheat had other "alternatives" to help his team win.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-10-2007, 02:37 PM

Get in Brady's head? :lmao Cowboys fans are funny!

Broncos have done it as have the Colts.

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:39 PM

Samething could have been said when the Rams/Pats played week 11 during the 2001-2002 season. Rams were having superbowl talks while the Pats were seen as just a playoff team. Rams beat them and yet the results were different in the superbowl.
LMAO that might be a reasonable comparison if the Patriots are weak defensively, have a QB who turns into a pussy when the blitz comes, and Mike Martz is their coach.

Good thing for New England that none of those things are true.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-10-2007, 02:39 PM

Well now, that is all a tarnished memory, as we now know that Bellicheat had other "alternatives" to help his team win.

:lol :lol Very true.

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:39 PM

Not to mention that Ellis was out, and they lost their starting nose tackle for the year in that game in the first quarter. The d has gotten much better since the first two weeks.
And I wouldnt say Newman isnt 100% because Evans caught him, Evans is one of the fastest guys in the league.
To me, it all comes down to if Henry is playing. If Reeves has to guard Stallworth the d will be in trouble if they arent getting pressure. I already think the d will have trouble with Reeves on Welker. I dont think the Pats will be able to run the ball, and I do think the Boys will pressure Brady. It will all be up to the offense imo.
I really don't think Reeves on Stallworth will be a big issue. Stallworth is just like Moss. They both can't run routes for shit. And Reeves is actually faster than Newman, so I'm not too concerned about Stallworth. I'd actually rather put Henry on Welker. That will basically take one option out of the game, as I think Henry's style of play is perfect to match up against Welker.

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:40 PM

And I wouldnt say Newman isnt 100% because Evans caught him, Evans is one of the fastest guys in the league.
Evans is fast but nowhere near fastest guy in the league range. Newman would have outrun him easily if his foot was 100%.

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:41 PM

Broncos have done it as have the Colts.
Yeah that would explain the Patriots beating them on MNF by purposely allowing a safety, shutting them down on defense, and then driving it right down their throats for a game winning TD. Because the Broncos are in their heads.

Nobody gets in Brady's head. It's alot easier to get into Reche Caldwell's head which is why the Colts won.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-10-2007, 02:42 PM

LMAO that might be a reasonable comparison if the Patriots are weak defensively, have a QB who turns into a pussy when the blitz comes, and Mike Martz is their coach.

Good thing for New England that none of those things are true.

That wasnt exposed until the superbowl which the Pats did a great job on. Before that game none of those things were said.

samikeyp

10-10-2007, 02:42 PM

And the bottom line is this - this game is FAR more important for Dallas than it is for New England.

A loss for Dallas and everyone starts questioning them.

A loss for New England and nobody cares because they're still waiting for the real test against Indianapolis.

A win for Dallas finally proves they're legit.

A win for New England doesn't mean anything to them. It means that if they beat Indy in the playoffs, they're going to make mincemeat of whatever unlucky NFC team faces them in the Super Bowl. And they already knew that.

I could agree with that.

Brady has shown a tendency to get rattled when he gets knocked around...the problem is...that rarely happens because his o-line (IMO, the main reason for their success this decade) has been very good. The Dallas D is certainly capable of causing problems that line for NE is outstanding so it will not be easy.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-10-2007, 02:43 PM

Yeah that would explain the Patriots beating them on MNF by purposely allowing a safety, shutting them down on defense, and then driving it right down their throats for a game winning TD. Because the Broncos are in their heads.

Nobody gets in Brady's head. It's alot easier to get into Reche Caldwell's head which is why the Colts won.

You mean the ONLY win Brady has had against them where Jake Plummer was out?? Yet they still needed a last second td to squeak by.

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:43 PM

Brady has shown a tendency to get rattled when he gets knocked around
omfg somebody give me one good example of brady ever being rattled.

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:44 PM

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:45 PM

You mean the ONLY win Brady has had against them where Jake Plummer was out?? Yet they still needed a last second td to squeak by.
:lmao plummer being out is a bad thing for denver???

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:47 PM

No, it explains why the Broncos beat them in 2005. They were all over him.
Let's not get into 2005, which was THE YEAR of the most horribly officiated games in NFL history.

3 playoff games and the Super Bowl were tainted by horrible refs, 2005 shouldn't even be in the record books.

Dirk Nowitzki

10-10-2007, 02:47 PM

:lmao plummer being out is a bad thing for denver???

Plummer 3-0 vs Brady as the Broncos QB including a playoff win. Brady 1-5 against the Broncos. Thats ownage.

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:47 PM

I could agree with that.

Brady has shown a tendency to get rattled when he gets knocked around...the problem is...that rarely happens because his o-line (IMO, the main reason for their success this decade) has been very good. The Dallas D is certainly capable of causing problems that line for NE is outstanding so it will not be easy.
Agreed 100%. His line is absolutely outstanding, and even if a rush comes, they at least get him enough time to get the ball off. He almost never gets hammered, but one team that knows how to get in his head is Miami. The last three years, they have gotten a victory against the Pats, and a huge reason is because they got a lot of pressure on Brady, knocked him around, and rattled him quite a bit. San Diego did the same thing the past year in the playoffs, and he was terrible.

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:50 PM

Let's not get into 2005, which was THE YEAR of the most horribly officiated games in NFL history.

3 playoff games and the Super Bowl were tainted by horrible refs, 2005 shouldn't even be in the record books.
:stfu

There was no CONCLUSIVE evidence that the ball that Bailey fumbled crossed the plane. Any fuckin moron could see that. There was ONE bad call, and that was the interference call on Samuel. And that was it.

Lets not forget how many years they have been videotaping and recording signals and playcalls...

monosylab1k

10-10-2007, 02:53 PM

Plummer 3-0 vs Brady as the Broncos QB including a playoff win. Brady 1-5 against the Broncos. Thats ownage.
ownage?

:lmao

Plummer is 3-0 against Brady.

Brady is 3-0 in the Super Bowl.

THAT, my friend, is OWNAGE.

stretch

10-10-2007, 02:58 PM

get the fuck out 1billups1

mardigan

10-10-2007, 03:30 PM

Henry is going to be out for this game is what John Clayton is reporting. Keith Davis (who the Boys desperately need back) is probably going to be out as well. He also said that Terry Glenn has started running again and is a couple of weeks away from coming back.
Watson scares me in this game. His speed will really hurt the Boys lb's and safety's. He and Morris/Faulk coming out of the backfield are honestly my biggest concerns going into the game. I really think Watson is going to tear the Boys secondary up.

BeerIsGood!

10-10-2007, 03:41 PM

Missing Henry is going to hurt badly. I hope Glenn is good to go when he gets back, because that kind of vertical ability combined with that dude's great hands will help open up the running game by not allowing people to go 8 in the box and still play relatively close on the line.

O-Factor

10-11-2007, 12:23 PM

The edge obviously goes to NE. They are a very methodical team even away from home. A positive Dallas has going for them is that Wade had success playing against NE last year, pressuring Brady into 3 INTs, 1 fumble and 2 sacks. Never has the line "being able to control the line of scrimage on both sides of the ball" been more true in this matchup for the Cowboys. Dallas needs steller offensive line play against the various blitzing schemes NE throws at people. That, and Dallas NEEDS to to get to Brady. Even if you don't sack him, put his ass on the ground, get a hand on him, make him uncomfortable. Ware needs to be on his A game for a chance of that to happen.

Offensively Dallas needs to get the ball to Owens early and often. when that happens, Owens seems to not drop many balls later in the game. Plus it'll make NE respect Owens which will open things up even more for Witten and Crayton.
Defensively I worry about Roy Williams in coverage and not having Anthony Henry really hurts. Brady is extreamly accurate and Moss has always played well against the Cowboys, thus reiterating the need to get to Brady with our blitzes.

I think NE will open up the game going 4 wide however, spread Dallas out, and try to pick Dallas apart. NE has an offensive line to consistanty do that. Coincidently I think Dallas should do the same. I look for points to be scored in this game. We'll see what happens.