Fran is done!

[50 cent]

After that PC today, there is no doubt that he will be fired after the season ends.

I wonder who we can go get now.

Tuberville?
Charlie Strong?
Bo Pelini?
Ron Prince?
Chris Petersen?

[degenerate_gambler]

what was the gist of it?

[j-6]

How about Jim Leavitt?

[Holt's Cat]

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/Coach/PHOTO/TOMMY-TUBERVILLE05.JPG

Big game winning HC in the SEC who cut his coaching teeth as a DC. If he can recruit that well in that environment he should excel in Texas.

A&M would have to schedule Florida, without a doubt.

[degenerate_gambler]

Here's a link to the docs...


http://www.aggieathletics.com/features/vip/

[j-6]

Why would Tuberville leave Auburn for A&M? Not hating on the Ags but I just don't see the logic in leaving a team that seems to win the SEC West every other year to play catch-up against Texas and OU.

I know he coached a season in Aggieland as an assistant but it's not like he has a ton of long term ties to the program.

[Holt's Cat]

He's had some run-ins with the administration, IIRC. Ags could always just pony up more. Plus, as it stands now the SEC schedule is much more brutal than in the Big 12 South.

[Holt's Cat]

After Tuberville I would say the LSU or Florida DC. Still, I think you go with someone proven after Fran is flushed.

Cutcliffe at Tennessee might be worth consideration.

[Holt's Cat]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/big12/stories/MYSA101107.FBCaggiesfranchione.en.15da10d0b.html

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The early leaders in the clubhouse are Tedford (Cal) and Tuberville (Auburn). Gonna be an interesting November.

[Holt's Cat]

I think Tedford is more of a pipe dream than any other. Establishing Cal as a dominant program is no small feat, especially considering the ground they've covered in such a short time span. His work's not done and he could really build a legacy with that program. Plus depending on his tastes it might be a bit of a change moving from Northern California to the Brazos Valley.

As for Tuberville, I continue to see hints dropped about him, both in the press and through the grapevine. I'm not sure if that too is wishful thinking or if the feeling is already known as mutual.

[j-6]

I'd go after that douchebag Mike Leach. Regarding the Florida DC, Strong, would all those oldtimer Ags be OK with a black guy running their football program?

Pelini's a great idea, and you won't have to worry about Michigan getting to him first.

[Holt's Cat]

I'd be fine with the dirty pirate simply for the fact that Lubbock would implode.

Fran's disgraced white coaches enough that I don't think that would be an issue.

[Whisky Dog]

I'd go after that douchebag Mike Leach. Regarding the Florida DC, Strong, would all those oldtimer Ags be OK with a black guy running their football program?

Pelini's a great idea, and you won't have to worry about Michigan getting to him first.

How many death threats would it take for Texas to can Davis and throw shitloads of money at Leach to be the OC?

Aww, fuck it. Leach would just kill Mack in his sleep anyway.

[Holt's Cat]

For the amount of $ that A&M is capable of throwing around I think you gotta end up with a proven name. There are definitely some interesting assistants out there to elevate, but I'm not sure the desire is there to wait another 3 to 5 years to see if he's another dud or not. You need someone who is proven at recruiting in the South and/or Texas, unless you are fine with the talent you have and simply want someone to coach it. You also want someone who is proven at winning against good teams, not simply racking up wins against directional schools in Louisiana. To me, all signs point to Tuberville.

[j-6]

Could you hook Mike Sherman?

[Whisky Dog]

For the amount of $ that A&M is capable of throwing around I think you gotta end up with a proven name. There are definitely some interesting assistants out there to elevate, but I'm not sure the desire is there to wait another 3 to 5 years to see if he's another dud or not. You need someone who is proven at recruiting in the South and/or Texas, unless you are fine with the talent you have and simply want someone to coach it. You also want someone who is proven at winning against good teams, not simply racking up wins against directional schools in Louisiana. To me, all signs point to Tuberville.

The key is recruiting in Texas. You have to find someone that speaks and relates to the Texas culture and is capable of convincing kids to play ball there. Fran was successful at other schools, but his style doesn't cut it in Texas. Unless there's a coach that already has a track record of recruiting in Texas out there, it's going to be a crap shoot that you hope turns out well.

[Holt's Cat]

I bet that Tuberville can recruit in Texas.

[Holt's Cat]

Could you hook Mike Sherman?


Why not Kubiak? :drunk

Sherman has a history with A&M and Kubiak is the primary playcaller. If he wanted to return to the NCAA, he'd be worth a look.

[Whisky Dog]

I bet that Tuberville can recruit in Texas.

Maybe, Maybe not. There's only one way to find out, and if they can land him I see no reason not to give it a try considering his success at Auburn.

[Extra Stout]

Regarding the Florida DC, Strong, would all those oldtimer Ags be OK with a black guy running their football program?
More of the pre-'64 old army needs to die off first.

[samikeyp]

Does a bowl win and a win over UT save him?

[Extra Stout]

Does a bowl win and a win over UT save him?
I don't care if he wins a freaking BCS bowl.

[samikeyp]

I could see Bo Pellini getting offered the job.

[Holt's Cat]

Fran is so gone. (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/big12/stories/MYSA101107.FBCaggiesfranchione.en.15da10d0b.html)

[Holt's Cat]

More of the pre-'64 old army needs to die off first.

They may hold some sway, but at this point the few who may feel that way are past the point of lucidity to really matter.

Anyways, we'll probably end up with RC's bud Bob Davie.

[Holt's Cat]

I don't care if he wins a freaking BCS bowl.

They should dispatch him after Pirate Leach drops 50 on us on Saturday.

[Whisky Dog]

Bob Davie. That would be so sweet.

[Kermit]

Fran leaving is the worst news ever. Please keep him Aggies!!! Please!!!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think Tedford is more of a pipe dream than any other. Establishing Cal as a dominant program is no small feat, especially considering the ground they've covered in such a short time span. His work's not done and he could really build a legacy with that program. Plus depending on his tastes it might be a bit of a change moving from Northern California to the Brazos Valley.

As for Tuberville, I continue to see hints dropped about him, both in the press and through the grapevine. I'm not sure if that too is wishful thinking or if the feeling is already known as mutual.

I have a buddy that lives out there and coaches football, who knows Tedford well.

The reason Tedford may leave is that the liberal faction at the school is blocking the expansion of the stadium and the building of locker rooms and a player's lounge, all important tools in recruiting these days.

They won't give him what he wants there for the program, which has created an opportunity for the right school to come along and land him.

[Doug Collins]

I have a buddy that lives out there and coaches football, who knows Tedford well.

The reason Tedford may leave is that the liberal faction at the school is blocking the expansion of the stadium and the building of locker rooms and a player's lounge, all important tools in recruiting these days.

They won't give him what he wants there for the program, which has created an opportunity for the right school to come along and land him.


I'd love Tedford but can he recruit Texas?

[leroyjenkins]

I'd love Tedford but can he recruit Texas?

who makes their name doug collins, only a giant douche that drives a prius and lives in a crappy state that doesnt have an nba team would ever do that

psshh

[timvp]

http://www.mcspoll.com/gfx/coach_slocumrc2.jpg

Why not?

:smokin

[BeerIsGood!]

They need to keep Fran. That mofo is very easy to hate.

[Holt's Cat]

http://www.mcspoll.com/gfx/coach_slocumrc2.jpg

Why not?

:smokin

At least our defense wouldn't be torched by the Panhandle Pirate as it has been and will be tomorrow.

[RonMexico]

who makes their name doug collins, only a giant douche that drives a prius and lives in a crappy state that doesnt have an nba team would ever do that

psshh

In addition to losing in the Olympics

[degenerate_gambler]

At least our defense wouldn't be torched by the Panhandle Pirate as it has been and will be tomorrow.


Do all you aggies think they're going to get blown out tomorrow?

You guys aren't exactly going up against a run-stopping defense. Ball control, smash-mouth football and hope for a couple of turnovers from your defense and it could go south for Tech in a hurry.

[Doug Collins]

who makes their name doug collins, only a giant douche that drives a prius and lives in a crappy state that doesnt have an nba team would ever do that

psshh


At least I dont play WOW.

[MoSpur]

I would love to see RC back.

[MoSpur]

I knew Fran was bad news the day they announced his signing.

[leroyjenkins]

At least I dont play WOW.

atleast im not an old white guy with old balls

[mookie2001]

why not let andy slocum be coach?

[rfbulletdude]

They may hold some sway, but at this point the few who may feel that way are past the point of lucidity to really matter.

Anyways, we'll probably end up with RC's bud Bob Davie.
I hope so, I like Bob Davie. I don't think he was given a fair shot at Notre Dame. But he did start as Def Coordinator at A&M way back when.

[IcemanCometh]

why would anyone want to coach at aggy?

[j-6]

The early leaders in the clubhouse are Tedford (Cal) and Tuberville (Auburn). Gonna be an interesting November.

I was hanging out with a couple of Aggies watching the Tech game and this subject was brought up numerous times. What makes the Ag faithful believe that they can get a guy like Tedford or Tuberville? These guys today were also talking about adding Jon Gruden, Mike Belotti, and my personal favorite, Mike Zimmer, to the list. Last time we got together (obviously pre-VIP scandal) they were talking about getting Major so I see the bar has been raised.

SC got an NFL washout. OU got a hot DC from a power program. Mack came from a basketball school. Florida hired away an up-and-comer from Utah in Meyer. Ohio State plucked a I-AA stud in Tressel.

LSU could be considered the exception, but who's to say that Michigan isn't going to try and snag Les Miles? There's an unofficial hierarchy in place here and A&M is above the Okie States of the world, granted. But unless your athletic deparment is willing to offer someone a Sabanesque deal, that name guy you're after is probably staying put in the program he already helped build/rebuild.

I'm sure some of this is because the Ags hired Fran away from Bama, but if I recall a lot of that move was involving him getting away from those crooked boosters and the sanctions the NCAA was imposing on the Tide.

[mookie2001]

franchione gives white jesus more carries than goodsen again
he should lose his job for letting that happen AGAIN

[mookie2001]

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=983099&forum_id=5


ROFL
this is why i read texags

why in the fuck would tedford even answer an aggy phone call?

these are the same people who wanted billy donovan to replace billy clyde

[j-6]

I have the perfect coach. Recent national title, former Aggie assistant, D-1 head coaching experience, and big name guy with a Broyles Award.

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/images/2001_02/main_images/coachmugs/davis_mug.jpg

You can take him whenever you're ready, Ags.

[mookie2001]

and you know hes neocon

[mookie2001]

whats mark farris been up to lately?

[j-6]

Or Corey Pullig?

edit: Wikipedia is my friend. Marine lawyer. Ag-tastic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corey_Pullig

[j-6]

At least I dont play WOW.

Speaking of, best thread running at Texags.

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=965416&forum_id=5


I am confident that we will win everygame this season (not including bowl game) that I am willing to give up my WoW account. I will give the name and password to the first person who wants it after/big if we lose a game. I have a level 70 blood elf paladin. The only game I am weary about is OU, so if we beat them(I think we will) I will throw in a custom made full-size costume of my character. I had this made for me, for last halloween. It is worth well over $500. Any takers?

I have updated my capabilities:

Gladiator's Ornamented Headcover
Binds when picked up
HeadPlate
1257 Armor
+52 Stamina
+30 Intellect
Meta Socket
Red Socket
Socket Bonus: +4 Resilience Rating
Classes: Paladin
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 57.
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 21.
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 32.

Gladiator's Redemption

Gladiator's Ornamented Chestguard
Gladiator's Ornamented Gloves
Gladiator's Ornamented Headcover
Gladiator's Ornamented Legplates
Gladiator's Ornamented Spaulders

2: +35 Resilience Rating.
4: Reduces the cooldown of your Hammer of Justice by 10 sec.


Gladiator's Ornamented Spaulders
Binds when picked up
ShouldersPlate
1160 Armor
+30 Stamina
+24 Intellect
Red Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +3 Resilience Rating
Durability: 100 / 100
Classes: Paladin
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 23
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 20
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 35.


Baba's Cloak of Arcanistry
Binds when picked up
Back
78 Armor
+15 Stamina
+15 Intellect
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 14
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 22.

Breastplate of Many Graces
Binds when picked up
ChestPlate
1135 Armor
+40 Stamina
+28 Intellect
Durability: 135 / 135
Requires Level 68
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 62.
Equip: Restores 11 mana per 5 sec.

Necklace of Eternal Hope
Binds when picked up
Unique
NeckMiscellaneous
+22 Stamina
+21 Intellect
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 48.
Equip: Restores 4 mana per 5 sec.


edit to clarify: since a couple people are already trying to take me up on this offer, I will say this. If we do lose a game (not including any bowl game--we always choke, don't know why) the first person to say on this thread they want the account and costume after 12:00am the morning of the game gets it. This should make it alittle more. Also, I am not doing this for nothing. I am doing it to make Aggies everywhere aware that the team can succeed this year. I believe in them, so should you!!

[midgetonadonkey]

I'm an Aggie fan and I have to say they deserved to lose worse than they did because they didn't fire Fran after what he did. Karma is a bitch.

Fire that fuck now!!!

[leemajors]

Speaking of, best thread running at Texags.

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=965416&forum_id=5
that's gotta be Doug Collins. Closet WoW!

[leroyjenkins]

hhahahaaha hilarious

[j-6]

I understand the hardon for Tuberville in College Station. Holding Jones and McFadden (sorry, Brut) to less than 70 yards combined is outstanding. But...

I have a hard time believing that a team with those two guys is that bad. Their QBing is so unreliable that McFadden goes under center - not on a trick play, but as an actual formation. The best guy the Hogs had is now at USC finding Matt Leinart's tasty leftovers while backing up the scout teamer all week.

Anyway, Auburn won. Again.

All of a sudden, Auburn is OK after winning three in a row. One of their losses was to a top 5 team and the rest of the season is manageable. Is Florida's scalp and 5-2 in the SEC better than 5-2 in the B12?

He's gonna kick Saban's ass, too.

[Holt's Cat]

I understand the hardon for Tuberville in College Station. Holding Jones and McFadden (sorry, Brut) to less than 70 yards combined is outstanding. But...

I have a hard time believing that a team with those two guys is that bad. Their QBing is so unreliable that McFadden goes under center - not on a trick play, but as an actual formation. The best guy the Hogs had is now at USC finding Matt Leinart's tasty leftovers while backing up the scout teamer all week.

Anyway, Auburn won. Again.

Indeed. You have to take a shot at Tuberville once Fran is dropped. A&M can put the $ in front of him and perhaps he has not gotten over the AD or whoever attempting to replace him with Petrino a couple years back.




All of a sudden, Auburn is OK after winning three in a row. One of their losses was to a top 5 team and the rest of the season is manageable. Is Florida's scalp and 5-2 in the SEC better than 5-2 in the B12?

He's gonna kick Saban's ass, too.

5-2 in the SEC with one of those losses against one of the top 3 teams in the country and a win against the then #4 team on the road >>> 5-2 in the Big 12 with two losses against unranked opponents including yesterday's thrashing and your best win being a comeback win at home against Okie Light.

[Holt's Cat]

I was hanging out with a couple of Aggies watching the Tech game and this subject was brought up numerous times. What makes the Ag faithful believe that they can get a guy like Tedford or Tuberville? These guys today were also talking about adding Jon Gruden, Mike Belotti, and my personal favorite, Mike Zimmer, to the list. Last time we got together (obviously pre-VIP scandal) they were talking about getting Major so I see the bar has been raised.

Such are college football fans.

As for Applewhite, that would be a real shot in the dark, one that could pay off handsomely, or burn out spectacularly.

I think you go for a proven and experienced winner at this point. Tuberville fits that profile. A&M would have to (and can) pony up the $ for him.



SC got an NFL washout. OU got a hot DC from a power program. Mack came from a basketball school. Florida hired away an up-and-comer from Utah in Meyer. Ohio State plucked a I-AA stud in Tressel.


True. I think someone like Pelini would be a solid hire all things considered. A&M needs a change in tone away from Fran's self-pitying and muddled brand of coaching. Bringing in a young aggressive DC from a top tier program might just be what the program needs. A&M needs someone who is not content to be semi-competitive at times and search for moral victories. Now that Fran has added some off the field stank to the program the change is needed even more.



LSU could be considered the exception, but who's to say that Michigan isn't going to try and snag Les Miles? There's an unofficial hierarchy in place here and A&M is above the Okie States of the world, granted. But unless your athletic deparment is willing to offer someone a Sabanesque deal, that name guy you're after is probably staying put in the program he already helped build/rebuild.


I think the pressure's on the AD to get someone proven, now. Slocum coasted through about 3 to 4 years more than he should of due to nothing more than an appreciation for cleaning up the mess Sherrill left. Hiring Fran was taking a shot at shaking up the RC complacency and taking a shot at reaching the next level. That experiment has utterly failed and the program has taken a step backwards from RC. Such are the breaks, but I'm not sure the fanbase is ready to give someone else 5 years to prove themselves.



I'm sure some of this is because the Ags hired Fran away from Bama, but if I recall a lot of that move was involving him getting away from those crooked boosters and the sanctions the NCAA was imposing on the Tide.

That was the idea.

[Doug Collins]

that's gotta be Doug Collins. Closet WoW!

I would never chose to be a paladin. Level 56 wizard for me.

[Doug Collins]

why not let andy slocum be coach?

Andy Slocum is a great humanitarian. I sold him a portable dvd player and got to drink with him post steriod scandal.

His gf was hot.

[leroyjenkins]

Andy Slocum is a great humanitarian. I sold him a portable dvd player and got to drink with him post steriod scandal.

His gf was hot.


i think you were just jealous you werent his gf. :ihit

[RonMexico]

i think you were just jealous you werent his gf. :ihit

I boned her... while watching a porno on a Toshiba DVD player.

[O-Factor]

Damn that sucks, I loved Fran at a&m.


http://media.graytvinc.com/images/texas_longhorns_200x120.jpg

[leemajors]

do you think there's any way byrne didn't know about d-fran selling injury sheets?

[degenerate_gambler]

do you think there's any way byrne didn't know about d-fran selling injury sheets?


hard to say. the newletter starting in '04 right? that's a long time for an AD not to at least catch a whiff of it from somebody somewhere.

[Brutalis]

You're a retard if you think Tommy is leaving Auburn. Simple as that.

[RonMexico]

You're a retard if you think Tommy is leaving Auburn. Simple as that.

You're a retard if you think Houston is leaving Hog Heaven. Even simpler.

[Holt's Cat]

Muschamp (http://ballhype.com/story/auburn_def_coach_will_muschamp_calls_ark_motherf_c kers/) might be worth elevating outright. Then again, that was only against the piggies.

:smokin