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timmy21_4rings
10-12-2007, 09:04 PM
what would be it and which team would get TD?

I know many people like to say, trade TD from Spurs to Spurs.

I am looking for other answers if any!!

birdy219
10-12-2007, 09:09 PM
If any player in the NBA is untradeable, it is Tim Duncan. End of thread. :fro

whottt
10-12-2007, 09:13 PM
I'd rather lose with Duncan than win with anyone we could trade him for :tu

You don't trade a player like Tim Duncan...even when he can no longer play, unless he just flat out refuses to retire well after the game has passed him by.


Duncan deserves to finish his career as a Spur. And I'll be honored if he does so.


We aren't going to get another like him for a long time...


It was an incredible stroke of luck that we had players the caliber of he and Robinson, in a single lifetime, much less playing alongside each other...the fact that we had Gervin before them...

Let's just say the Spurs are the luckiest Franchise since the day they entered the NBA.

Kori Ellis
10-12-2007, 09:15 PM
I'd rather lose with Duncan than win with anyone we could trade him for :tu

You don't trade a player like Tim Duncan...even when he can no longer play, unless he just flat out refuses to retire well after the game has passed him by.


Duncan deserves to finish his career as a Spur. And I'll be honored if he does so.

:tu

Also, I think Tim Duncan is the kind of guy that may retire early, rather than hang on past his time.

ceds
10-12-2007, 09:20 PM
Like the other poster said TD is about as untradable as a player can be...

I would think about pulling the trigger if these trades were offered


Dwight Howard & Ariza
Chris Bosh & Andreas (the no.1 from last year)
Oden & ROY or Aldridge

duncan228
10-12-2007, 09:21 PM
:tu

Also, I think Tim Duncan is the kind of guy that may retire early, rather than hang on past his time.

Absolutely.
I don't see Duncan coming off the bench when he's past his prime.
He's a winner, he'll walk when he can no longer be a vital piece of those titles.

And I wouldn't trade him for anyone in the league. Not for ten "best" in the league.
He's a Spur for life, his number in the rafters with his banners.

whottt
10-12-2007, 09:24 PM
:tu

Also, I think Tim Duncan is the kind of guy that may retire early, rather than hang on past his time.



Exactly...and thing is...if Duncan says he can still play and the Spurs trade him? That's a mistake. He'll probably take the team we trade him to to a title if it's a halfway decent team. Duncan isn't the type to say he can play if he can't.


By the time Duncan becomes tradeable, we aren't going to get anyone capable of taking us to a title for him, all we'll be doing is trading franchise history and championship memories, for mediocrity.


I rather just finish out the Duncan era with Duncan and then suck bad enough to get a top lottery pick...and start it all over again.

whottt
10-12-2007, 09:31 PM
And the other thing is...

Duncan is out of the Kareem school...

Not the Wilt school...like Drob and Shaq are.

Wilt shcool = 12=15 years with health.
Kareem school = 20 years without health.


He's going to be an effective player long after his physical ability has left him, he's that skilled.


To tell you the truth...Duncan's true athleticism left him after about his second or third year in the NBA.

timvp
10-12-2007, 09:32 PM
I wouldn't trade Duncan for any two players in the league. He's grown into not only a devastating player, but also one of the best teammates and leaders in the history of the league. His leadership style is unconventional but it's greatly effective.

whottt
10-12-2007, 09:38 PM
I wouldn't trade Duncan for any two players in the league. He's grown into not only a devastating player, but also one of the best teammates and leaders in the history of the league. His leadership style is unconventional but it's greatly effective.


Bandwagoner.

timvp
10-12-2007, 09:51 PM
I like the Dallas team more than I like the Spurs.

baseline bum
10-12-2007, 09:57 PM
I wanted Webber over Robinson in 01, and thank God it never happened. After seeing how amazing it was for Dave to retire a champion and spend his whole career in our uniform, there's no way I'd want it any other way with Tim, even if RC gets offered LeBron+Durant and a healthy Oden.

FromWayDowntown
10-12-2007, 10:04 PM
I agree that Duncan is untradeable as a basketball player and I think he's untradeable as an icon at this point as well.

Tim is certainly getting older, but there is still nobody in the NBA who can make the difference at both ends of the floor that Tim Duncan makes. No-body. As long as that's true, there's zero chance of getting equal value in a trade for him.

On top of that, as timvp noted, Duncan is singularly the most accountable and selfless superstar in the game -- he is the biggest supporter of each of his teammates; he even owns mistakes that aren't even his to help out and support his teammates.

At this moment, and for the foreseeable future, Tim Duncan IS the San Antonio Spurs.

phyzik
10-12-2007, 10:24 PM
There is not a "good enough" offer for TD, as quite a few posters have pointed out before me.... but... if you where to word the thread

"who would you want if TD flat out, under any conditions, refused to play for the Spurs next season who would you want?"




In that scenario I would have to say Oden.













I'll continue to count my blessings that TD is not a whiny bitch like "those guys" that signed with the Celtics and that "other guy" that still plays for the Lakers.

Walter Craparita
10-12-2007, 10:34 PM
I'd rather lose with Duncan than win with anyone we could trade him for :tu

You don't trade a player like Tim Duncan...even when he can no longer play, unless he just flat out refuses to retire well after the game has passed him by.


Duncan deserves to finish his career as a Spur. And I'll be honored if he does so.


We aren't going to get another like him for a long time...


It was an incredible stroke of luck that we had players the caliber of he and Robinson, in a single lifetime, much less playing alongside each other...the fact that we had Gervin before them...

Let's just say the Spurs are the luckiest Franchise since the day they entered the NBA.

QFT

exstatic
10-12-2007, 10:38 PM
There is not a "good enough" offer for TD, as quite a few posters have pointed out before me.... but... if you where to word the thread

"who would you want if TD flat out, under any conditions, refused to play for the Spurs next season who would you want?"




In that scenario I would have to say Oden.
:lmao The 90YO man with a microfractured knee? If I have to go untested with the "under the gun" scenario, I'd go with Dwight Howard. Of the three highly touted young posts(Howard, Amare, Oden) he's the only one with two intact knees.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
10-12-2007, 10:58 PM
No way Duncan is ever traded from the Spurs. He'd retire before playing for another team I think.

I'd say he'll play until he no longer thinks he's effective, and he and Pop will probably retire together. That will be the beginning of a new era for the Spurs (rebuilding), and a sad day for us all. Hopefully it won't happen until about 2012 or 2013 though, which would make him 36 or 37.

The great thing about TD is so much of his effectiveness comes from bball IQ - his D, passing, movement - and he's never relied on athleticism to be effective. Who knows, if he's lucky with injury, he might still be effective at 40! But that's unlikely.

Personally, I wouldn't trade him for Howard/Amare/Oden because none of them have proven to be all-around game changers like Tim. Do you see any of those guys developing the all-court dominance of Duncan? I don't. Amare will never be a great defender, he doesn't have the temperament for it, and Howard still struggles with his footwork, and he's also not a great passer. Oden is a ? Still, Duncan is a once in a generation player, just like Jordan, Bird and co.

baseline bum
10-12-2007, 11:02 PM
If I'm RC and Tim asks me for a trade, I ask him where he wants to go, and make it happen. Otherwise, I don't trade Tim Duncan.

Mister Sinister
10-13-2007, 12:15 AM
I wouldn't trade Timmy for anything. Ever. End of story.

bdictjames
10-13-2007, 01:24 AM
Tim Duncan IS the San Antonio Spurs.

:king

jaffies
10-13-2007, 01:53 AM
Spurs Get:

Jesus H. Christ
Moses (Malone) the Hebrew
monetary compensation (mostly kickbacks from 'Passion of the Christ')
v.i.p. lifetime pass to Club Paradise
club option to veto opposing team's prayers
2009 first round pick
'Smiter' to be named later
2-for-1 coupons for the salad bar at the Garden of Eden
oh yeah, Eternal Life

Heaven gets:

Tim Duncan






















still wouldn't do it.

duncan7721
10-13-2007, 02:41 AM
My reasons for NOT trading TD:
1. He was rated best player in the NBA.
2.Why trade the saviour of San Antonio? We would never win without him.
3.He is permantely engraved in San Antonio. He is part of the team. If you take away that part of the team and try to get a different one, it would be like a human getting a trnsplant for a worse heart than he had before.
4.Duncan is one of those rare people who don't need 100 million dollar contracts. Unless you are giving him pennies, he just wants to win.

Think more deeply about it. What would we be gaining if we traded him? The only thing i would feel better about is if we got the whole all-star team for him.

DO NOT TRADE TIM DUNCAN!

TheAuthority
10-13-2007, 04:47 AM
The only player you'd really have to consider is LeBron. Other than that, nobody.

Texas_Ranger
10-13-2007, 06:04 AM
Duncan will never be traded.
Begin as a Spur & End as a Spurs.

MrChug
10-13-2007, 06:14 AM
He's going to be an effective player long after his physical ability has left him, he's that skilled.


To tell you the truth...Duncan's true athleticism left him after about his second or third year in the NBA.

Some of you might hate him, but those opinions are so likely they're practically FACTUAL. I've always held that outlook on Tim. I think he's kinda like Mike...when he's 40 he's got moves that will still make a young stud look like he's in middle school.

My old ass still gets inspired by this video before I go to the court:

Michael Jordan 2002: NBA Record 51 Points at Age 38 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-0ghhY7uw)

SenorSpur
10-13-2007, 08:57 AM
pass!

ss1986v2
10-13-2007, 09:05 AM
ive always been of the belief that no player is untouchable. if the deal is right, any player can be traded. but some players have values that are so high, that it would be nearly impossible for two teams to both be happy with any deal. duncan fits into this category. so does yao (hes a cash cow, and a damn good player) and lebron (ditto). kobe would also be on this list, if it wasnt for the whining and trade demands.

Hemotivo
10-13-2007, 10:05 AM
what if Duncan ask for a trade?

duncan228
10-13-2007, 10:15 AM
what if Duncan ask for a trade?

I can't see that he ever would.
He's been happy in SA, happy with his coach, his team, his organization.
I think he thrives in the smaller market.
The FO would have to do something drastic to change that.
The FO isn't stupid. This is Duncan's team. They won't fuck with him.

urunobili
10-13-2007, 10:50 AM
TD is untradable

Steve-O-Matic
10-13-2007, 11:12 AM
Scola rights.

Oh.

ShoogarBear
10-13-2007, 12:15 PM
What if the offer was Keith Van Horn?

Like some of you bandwagoners wanted 10 years ago?

FromWayDowntown
10-13-2007, 12:16 PM
What if the offer was Keith Van Horn?

Like some of you bandwagoners wanted 10 years ago?

Chauncey Billups and Ron Mercer?

RuffnReadyOzStyle
10-13-2007, 12:16 PM
what if Duncan ask for a trade?

Why would he? It is HIS franchise. That's like suggesting that MJ would've asked the Bulls to trade him. Simply not going to happen.

Spurs---Duncan=symbiotic relationship.

whottt
10-13-2007, 12:21 PM
Why would he? It is HIS franchise. That's like suggesting that MJ would've asked the Bulls to trade him. Simply not going to happen.

Actually, MJ made some noise about wanting out at least once...

He wasn't one on the best of terms with the Bull's FO. Didn't get along with Krause...

midgetonadonkey
10-13-2007, 12:24 PM
I would trade Duncan for Scola.

Brutalis
10-13-2007, 12:45 PM
No team would ever seriously offer for TD. They know he will not leave, SA will not entertain or humor offers nor would they even kid around.

polandprzem
10-13-2007, 02:55 PM
what if Duncan ask for a trade?

Mofo did his thing Mofo can go!




















































































:hang

ChumpDumper
10-13-2007, 02:57 PM
Define "very good."

dbreiden83080
10-13-2007, 03:51 PM
:tu

Also, I think Tim Duncan is the kind of guy that may retire early, rather than hang on past his time.


Yeah i really don't see Tim Duncan playing well into his late 30's when he has won so much and really has nothing left to prove to anyone.

Indazone
10-13-2007, 06:06 PM
Yao > Duncan

ChumpDumper
10-13-2007, 06:28 PM
You're an idiot.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
10-13-2007, 08:31 PM
Chump - totally agree. Yao>TD WTF?????? :dizzy


Actually, MJ made some noise about wanting out at least once...

He wasn't one on the best of terms with the Bull's FO. Didn't get along with Krause...

Yeah, I know, but the thing was it was only MJ flexing his ego. He knew where he belonged, and he stayed there. Even though he hated Krause, as did Pip, Krause kept putting the right players next to them so they stayed there and won six rings. But, point taken - the situation is a little different - the Bulls' situation was far more volatile!

OTOH, Tim is smart enough that he will never feel the need to flex his ego for the sake of it - he's content with who he is. And RC ain't Krause. And the Spurs are as STABLE as they come. :D

Strike
10-13-2007, 09:56 PM
Yao > Duncan:lmao

Indazone
10-13-2007, 10:19 PM
lol I knew that would get this board all riled up!! hahaha

RuffnReadyOzStyle
10-13-2007, 11:36 PM
We're not riled up, we just think you're an idiot! :lmao ;)

RuffnReadyOzStyle
10-14-2007, 09:18 AM
Check out the number of people here who think the TD championship winning era is coming to a close:

http://www.poundingtherock.com/story/2007/10/10/11252/368

What are they, NUTS??? He's 31!?!? Tony and Manu are here for at least another 3 years, and we have young talent waiting in the wings. We have to get younger at the swing positions, but that's why they cleared all the capspace for next year.

This is why I appreciate ST - so many people out there don't have a bloody clue. In here, most people do. :tu

pku47
10-14-2007, 10:08 AM
Yao > Duncan
only the height (i'm chinese)