Quiz, Who said the following:

[Wild Cobra]

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) "(We)...can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Jose f Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own...in order to create this common ground."

A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above

[George Gervin's Afro]

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) "(We)...can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Jose f Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own...in order to create this common ground."

A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above



who said this?

























"who cares"?

[E20]

Pick all the ones that were known Commies.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just going to say it was a Democrat. Probably Hillary Clinton. Not that it matters -- forwarded emails make for crappy threads.

[Nbadan]

That's so Hillary..........

[Mr. Peabody]

This has only been going around the net for the last month or so..... :rolleyes

[Lebowski Brickowski]

Who said this?


Freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.


What?????? Where did you come up with that?

Freedom is precisely the ability to make one's own decisions about one's life, security, occupation, etc.. without the intrusion of a government, which, by the way, DOES NOT have power over people, but derives it's power from the people and, therefore, is the servant of the people.

[101A]

Who said this?


Freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.

:bang

[George Gervin's Afro]

who said the following:

“The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we’d have to do once we got there. You’d probably have to put some new government in place. It’s not clear what kind of government that would be, how long you’d have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining the outcome of the struggle over who’s going to govern in Iraq strikes me as a classic definition of a quagmire.”


“Once you got to Iraq and took it over, and took down Saddam Hussein’s government, then what are you going to put in its place? That’s a very volatile part of the world and if you take down the central government in Iraq, you can easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off. How many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? And our judgment was - not very many and I think we got it right.”


“[T]he only way you could have done that would be to go to Baghdad and occupy Iraq. If we’d done that, the U.S. would have been all alone. We would not have had the support of the coalition, especially of the Arab nations that fought alongside us in Kuwait. None of them ever set foot inside Iraq. Conversations I had with leaders in the region afterwards–they all supported the decision that was made not to go to Baghdad.

“They were concerned that we not get into a position where we shifted instead of being the leader of an international coalition to roll back Iraqi aggression to one in which we were an imperialist power, willy-nilly moving into capitals in that part of the world taking down governments.”

"I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire. Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do?"

[hater]

who said the following:

"I try to go for longer runs, but it's tough around here at the White House on the outdoor track. It's sad that I can't run longer. It's one of the saddest things about the presidency."

"I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace."

"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job."

"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."

“We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories … And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."

"Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!"

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."


a) a chimp
b) Beno Udrih
c) none of the above

[Wild Cobra]

Who said this?


Freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.
That's disturbing. I would call into question, the context of the quote, but I don't like him much anyway.

[PixelPusher]

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D9173CF933A15750C0A9629582 60

March 20, 1994
'Freedom Is About Authority': Excerpts From Giuliani Speech on Crime

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani was among the speakers on Wednesday at a forum about crime in the cities, sponsored by The New York Post. The Mayor discussed how crime and law enforcement had changed in New York over several decades, and how society had changed. Here is an excerpt, as transcribed by The New York Times.

We constantly present the false impression that government can solve problems that government in America was designed not to solve. Families are significantly less important in the development of children today than they were 30 or 40 years ago. Religion has less influence than it did 30 or 40 years ago. Communities don't mean what they meant 30 or 40 years ago.

As Americans, we're not sure we share values. We're sometimes even afraid to use the word values. We talk about teaching ethics in schools -- people say, "What ethics? Whose ethics? Maybe we can't." And they confuse that with teaching of religion. And we are afraid to reaffirm the basics upon which a lawful and a decent society are based. We're almost embarrassed by it.

We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.

[ Interruption by someone in the audience. ]

You have free speech so I can be heard.

[ Another interruption. ]

At the core the struggle is philosophical. There are many, many things that can be done in law enforcement to protect us better. There are many things that can done to create a government that is more responsive and more helpful. The fact is that we're fooling people if we suggest to them the solutions to these very, very deep-seated problems are going to be found in government. . . .

The solutions are going to be found when we figure out as a society what our families are going to be like in the next century, and how maybe they are going to be different. They are going to have to be just as solid and just as strong in teaching every single youngster their responsibility for citizenship. We're going to find the answer when schools once again train citizens. Schools exist in America and have always existed to train responsible citizens of the United States of America.

If they don't do that, it's very hard to hold us together as a country, because it's shared values that hold us together. We're going to come through this when we realize that it's all about, ultimately, individual responsibility. That in fact the criminal act is about individual responsibility and the building of the respect for the law and ethics is also a matter of individual responsibility.

---------------

:elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

Do you trust this man to uphold the Constitution?

[Wild Cobra]

Do you trust this man to uphold the Constitution?
I don't...

Like I said, I don't like him. He is too authoritarian for me, like most the democrats. I think it would be a waste of time to debate the context, because I believe it is just like it appears!

Rudy has some great traits, but he is more to the left and more authoritarian the president Bush is. He would be a definite improvement as governor or Oregon though!

[Summers]

That's disturbing. I would call into question, the context of the quote, but I don't like him much anyway.


What an ironic statement, considering you're the one who started this thread with a bunch of quotes taken out of context in order to attempt to make some point.

[FromWayDowntown]

What an ironic statement, considering you're the one who started this thread with a bunch of quotes taken out of context in order to attempt to make some point.

If there's something that might cast aspersions on a conservative/republican, Wild Cobra immediately doubts the context; if it casts aspersions upon a liberal/democrat, the context is largely irrelevant.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

If there's something that might cast aspersions on a conservative/republican, Wild Cobra immediately doubts the context; if it casts aspersions upon a liberal/democrat, the context is largely irrelevant.Shocking partisan behavior isn't it? :lol

[Summers]

And just to avoid appearing hypocritical, I've just wasted 20 minutes of my valuable time demonstrating what I mean by "context":


1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) "(We)...can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Jose f Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own...in order to create this common ground."

A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above


1.
"We're not coming to you, many of whom are well enough off that actually the tax cuts may have helped you, and say 'we're going to give you more.' We're saying, 'you know what, for America to get back on track and be fiscally responsible, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

2.
That's why they want to privatize Social Security and let individuals bear the risks. It's why their answer to the health care crisis is limited to creating health savings account, which allows the healthiest people to get the best deal, with little concern if the sickest get worse.

They call it the ownership society. But it's really the "on your own" society.

On the other hand, they protect the drug companies from competition, including from their own products coming back across the border from Canada. And they give health care companies a subsidy of more than $1,000 per person to compete with Medicare. That is hardly the free market at work.

As a result, too many of our families are left running in place or falling behind.

Health care premiums have gone up 87 percent since 2000; college costs up 40 percent since the 2000 school year. Gas prices have more than doubled. And I don't need to tell anyone that they're heading even higher today.

Wages and incomes are lagging so much that, after five years of overall growth, there's been a 4 percent increase in the percentage of workers falling below the poverty line, and a 4 percent increase in working families losing their health insurance.

It's like our middle-class and hardworking families are invisible to this president.

If you're a worker who can't organize for fair wages and safe working conditions, you're invisible.

If you're one of the over 45 million Americans who don't have health insurance, you're invisible, too.

If your company has shipped your job overseas and you don't know how to pay your bills, well, you're invisible.

If you drive up to the gas station and have to pay well over $3.20 or $3.30 a gallon to fill up your tank, you're invisible as well.

Well, you're not invisible to me. And we can't restore the American dream unless you're a very visible part of it.

It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few and for the few, time to reject the idea of an "on your own" society and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity. I prefer a "we're all in it together" society.

Now, there is no greater force for economic growth than free markets, but markets work best with rules that promote our values, protect our workers and give all people a chance to succeed.

When we get our priorities in order and make the smart investments we need, the markets work well.



3, 4, and 5.
An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

She went on, “The same with energy. You know, we can’t keep talking about our dependence on foreign oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it poses to our climate and to God’s creation and just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

Clinton made these comments near the end of her allotted 15-minute portion of the event.

Clinton also said that “the adult society has failed” young people “who are tremendously influenced by the media culture and by the celebrity culture.”

“I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.

6.
from the Washington Post: YRACUSE, N.Y., Sept. 2 -- Pressed by constituents alarmed by skyrocketing gasoline prices in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) accused oil companies of manipulating energy markets to enhance profits and decried a lack of national leadership for a plan to free the country from dependence on foreign oil.

"I want to go after the oil companies and the oil speculators and the manipulators of the money, because they're the ones who I think are really behind this," Clinton told an audience in Elmira Heights on Thursday. "You have a hurricane, and all of a sudden you see prices going up like that. That has . . . everything to do with people trying to make money off the backs of this tragedy."

Clinton repeatedly took aim at record profits rolled up by energy giants during the last quarter as crude oil prices have continued to rise. Her rhetoric was at times angry, exasperated, frustrated and passionate. "You just cannot convince me that they are not manipulating this market," she told another audience near Newark, N.Y.

Citing Exxon Mobil Corp.'s record $7.64 billion profit in the past quarter as evidence that the government needs to take action, she said it is time to send a message to the industry that "they're being watched" as consumers deal with rising prices. "If we don't fight Big Oil, this country's going down," she said. "We're not going to have the standard of living and the quality of life, and we're not going to be able to control our future."

Clinton sparred with one constituent who called for a rollback of state and federal gasoline taxes to ease the pain of increases that have pushed prices well above $3 a gallon in many places since the hurricane hit Monday morning. Clinton said that will not solve the problem.

"We can get some temporary relief, but that's not the answer, and we don't have the leadership we need to stand up and fight for what should be the answer and the sacrifices people should be willing to make," she said.

The anxiety and anger felt by motorists was evident at nearly every turn in her travels throughout the Finger Lakes region of Upstate New York. She made clear she shared the concern.

"I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in our entire economy that they're being watched," she said in explaining her call for an inquiry by the Federal Trade Commission. "I think human nature left to itself is going to push the limit as far as possible, and that's what you need a government regulatory system for: to keep an eye on people to make the rules of the game fair, to make a level playing field and not give anybody some kind of undue advantage."

Clinton criticized the new energy bill, which she opposed, as inadequate to solve the country's long-term energy problem. She said the United States has regressed over the past three decades, since the first oil shocks of the early 1970s. "We've had 30 years to do some things we haven't done," she said. "In fact we've gotten, we've gone backwards in many respects.

"I am tired of being at the mercy of people in the Middle East and elsewhere, and I'm tired frankly of being at the mercy of these large oil companies," Clinton said.

[Summers]

I'm not even voting for Hillary in the primaries! I wasted time doing this because Wild Cobra is one of those copy-and-paste, sad 10%-end-of-the-voting-population-bell-curve mouth breathers who still believes George W Bush is a good, intelligent man, the war in Iraq is just, and the Republican Party has any moral authority left at all. WC, you predictably fill your stereotyped role. If you want to argue politics, bring it.

[FromWayDowntown]

Summers just kicked some ass.

[ChumpDumper]

I would call into question, the context of the quote

:rollin

[PixelPusher]

I wanna join in the no-context fun too!



"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption."

"This is an impressive crowd -- the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite -- I call you my base."

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

"I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." (That's about as Orwellian as a quote can get without being outright plagerism)

"You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that."

[word]

Who said this: ' I think one of my balls is stuck up inside me. '

[Nbadan]

I'm not even voting for Hillary in the primaries! I wasted time doing this because Wild Cobra is one of those copy-and-paste, sad 10%-end-of-the-voting-population-bell-curve mouth breathers who still believes George W Bush is a good, intelligent man, the war in Iraq is just, and the Republican Party has any moral authority left at all. WC, you predictably fill your stereotyped role. If you want to argue politics, bring it.


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[Nbadan]

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[Nbadan]

Who said the following?


Find the points on the sphere X^2+Y^2+Z^2 = 4 that are closest to and farthest from the points (3,1,-1)?

MY Damn Professor!

:madrun

[Wild Cobra]

What an ironic statement, considering you're the one who started this thread with a bunch of quotes taken out of context in order to attempt to make some point.
Not really. When I see statements of people who I am familiar with, I have an immediate sense of whether the statement is in or out of context. Sure, I'm not always right, and I look it up if it's important to me. In the case of Giuliani, it appears completely accurate of what the statement implies and what I know of him. Same with the six quotes I posted which all six came from senator Clinton. They appear to be portrayed accurately from we know of her. Afterall, she is a dictator wanna-bee... Just a Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit...

Are you saying any of these are out of context? I don't believe so myself.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm not even voting for Hillary in the primaries! I wasted time doing this because Wild Cobra is one of those copy-and-paste, sad 10%-end-of-the-voting-population-bell-curve mouth breathers who still believes George W Bush is a good, intelligent man, the war in Iraq is just, and the Republican Party has any moral authority left at all. WC, you predictably fill your stereotyped role. If you want to argue politics, bring it.
Well, you do have me pegged wrong in regards to president Bush. I recognize his bad attributes, and you all forget that when I point them out, but you always remember when I agree with something he said or did.

As for the copy and paste type... are you kidding? I do more than my fair share of sharing my opinion and facts that go otherwise unnoticed by many. I prefer not to do large copy and past actions like some here do. Notice I usually say 'part or article'... How many people quote the entire article?

You have too young of a face to be getting selective memory loss...

Oh... Almost forgot...

Nice work on looking up the quotes. They are just like I thought. Pure socialism...

[Wild Cobra]

Summers just kicked some ass.
Not in my eyes... Am I over everyones head? He misjudged me, and assumed things not true. That is not ass-kicking...

[George Gervin's Afro]

Not really. When I see statements of people who I am familiar with, I have an immediate sense of whether the statement is in or out of context. Sure, I'm not always right, and I look it up if it's important to me. In the case of Giuliani, it appears completely accurate of what the statement implies and what I know of him. Same with the six quotes I posted which all six came from senator Clinton. They appear to be portrayed accurately from we know of her. Afterall, she is a dictator wanna-bee... Just a Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit...

Are you saying any of these are out of context? I don't believe so myself.


what do 'we' know of her? Please refrain from her being a socialist or wanting to kill our healthcare system neither of which is true. So fill us in on what makes your out of context quotes correct? Why don't you post what was said before and after the statements you provided? That would be the honest thing to do but I have a feeling it would lessen the desired effect. So i will sit back and wait to see your reasoning on 'what we know about her'.

[Wild Cobra]

what do 'we' know of her? Please refrain from her being a socialist or wanting to kill our healthcare system neither of which is true.

But she is a socialist, treading near Marxism! I'm sorry if you don't see that in her. As for Health Care. He ideas of making it more accessable will hurt it.



So fill us in on what makes your out of context quotes correct? Why don't you post what was said before and after the statements you provided? That would be the honest thing to do but I have a feeling it would lessen the desired effect.

Summers already placed the quotes in context. It is clearly socialism. I didn't place them in full context because it would have given away who said them too easily.



So i will sit back and wait to see your reasoning on 'what we know about her'.

How long have you been around? I was 33 when she became the First Lady. So many items coming to light about her throughout the years.

Just go to The Library of Congress (http://thomas.loc.gov/) and look at her voting record on different issues, or someplace like Project Vote Smart (http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=WNY99268). I'm not going to bother explaining it. If you don't know what a socialist is, find out. She is one, no doubt.

What ever you do, don't rely on the Main Stream Media. They love her, and will always make her look good.

[George Gervin's Afro]

But she is a socialist, treading near Marxism! I'm sorry if you don't see that in her. As for Health Care. He ideas of making it more accessable will hurt it.


Summers already placed the quotes in context. It is clearly socialism. I didn't place them in full context because it would have given away who said them too easily.


How long have you been around? I was 33 when she became the First Lady. So many items coming to light about her throughout the years.

Just go to The Library of Congress (http://thomas.loc.gov/) and look at her voting record on different issues, or someplace like Project Vote Smart (http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=WNY99268). I'm not going to bother explaining it. If you don't know what a socialist is, find out. She is one, no doubt.

What ever you do, don't rely on the Main Stream Media. They love her, and will always make her look good.


Well mr smart guy I actually wnt to college myself and have an undergrad degree in political science. Unlike you I can think for myself. By the way you moron I am not a big fan of hers and have posted as such on this board..

[Wild Cobra]

Well mr smart guy I actually wnt to college myself and have an undergrad degree in political science. Unlike you I can think for myself. By the way you moron I am not a big fan of hers and have posted as such on this board..
Where did you go?

University of Indoctrination?

You don't see her as a socialist?

As for college... none.

I was so fucking board getting strait A's in high school. It was too easy. I dreaded the thought of more school. I never even bothered applying for scholarships or taking the SAT.

I buy books to keep my mind in tune. Even have a few on quantum physics.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I was so fucking board getting strait A's in high school. It was too easy....I never even bothered applying for scholarships or taking the SAT.

I buy books to keep my mind in tune. Even have a few on quantum physics.

self-edu-ma-cated man.

[xrayzebra]

self-edu-ma-cated man.

OG, you are such a fish. Like Sucker. He plays you like
a fiddle.
:lol

[Oh, Gee!!]

OG, you are such a fish. Like Sucker. He plays you like
a fiddle.
:lol

I didn't realize we were using 1920's lingo today.

[RandomGuy]

Not really. When I see statements of people who I am familiar with, I have an immediate sense of whether the statement is in or out of context. Sure, I'm not always right, and I look it up if it's important to me. In the case of Giuliani, it appears completely accurate of what the statement implies and what I know of him. Same with the six quotes I posted which all six came from senator Clinton. They appear to be portrayed accurately from we know of her. Afterall, she is a dictator wanna-bee... Just a Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit...

Are you saying any of these are out of context? I don't believe so myself.


Than you didn't read the whole thing that Summers found for you. Of course all that crap was out of context, because it makes for better sound bites and cheap political theater.
Quite frankly I find this laziness typical of conservatives who get all their "news" from talk radio, Fox "news", et al.

Did you do that yourself, or was it a copy and paste job from some right-wing blog?

My guess is that it seems like the kind of cynical crap that Limbaugh puts on a consistant basis.

[ChumpDumper]

WC is deliciously insecure. Gets owned ignoring his own rules and spends the morning trying to explain why his rules sholdn't apply to him.

:tu

[RandomGuy]

Where did you go?

University of Indoctrination?

You don't see her as a socialist?

As for college... none.

I was so fucking board getting strait A's in high school. It was too easy. I dreaded the thought of more school. I never even bothered applying for scholarships or taking the SAT.

I buy books to keep my mind in tune. Even have a few on quantum physics.

Translation:

"I have a high school education."

Part and parcel of good higher education is the ability to think critically, analyse information and have a more complex framework for understanding things.

Since you were bored with high school and got straight A's, then you should have no problem telling me one common principle of critical thinking.

Feel free to investigoogle. ;)

[RandomGuy]

who said the following:

“The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we’d have to do once we got there. You’d probably have to put some new government in place. It’s not clear what kind of government that would be, how long you’d have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining the outcome of the struggle over who’s going to govern in Iraq strikes me as a classic definition of a quagmire.”


“Once you got to Iraq and took it over, and took down Saddam Hussein’s government, then what are you going to put in its place? That’s a very volatile part of the world and if you take down the central government in Iraq, you can easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off. How many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? And our judgment was - not very many and I think we got it right.”


“[T]he only way you could have done that would be to go to Baghdad and occupy Iraq. If we’d done that, the U.S. would have been all alone. We would not have had the support of the coalition, especially of the Arab nations that fought alongside us in Kuwait. None of them ever set foot inside Iraq. Conversations I had with leaders in the region afterwards–they all supported the decision that was made not to go to Baghdad.

“They were concerned that we not get into a position where we shifted instead of being the leader of an international coalition to roll back Iraqi aggression to one in which we were an imperialist power, willy-nilly moving into capitals in that part of the world taking down governments.”

"I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire. Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do?"

That would be Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, in the early 1990's.

Prophetic, ain't it?

[RandomGuy]

WC is deliciously insecure. Gets owned ignoring his own rules and spends the morning trying to explain why his rules sholdn't apply to him.

:tu

Sounds like Dick "not part of the executive branch" Cheney.

[George Gervin's Afro]

That would be Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, in the early 1990's.

Prophetic, ain't it?


We have a winner...

I guess if he were a dem we would all have heard what flip flopper he was....

[Wild Cobra]

Since you were bored with high school and got straight A's, then you should have no problem telling me one common principle of critical thinking.

Feel free to investigoogle. ;)
No googling. Probably not a book answer, but being open minded is a key aspect. Presumed theories need to be tested. Good enough for now?

I don't see very many here having either an open mind, or fact checking. I make a mistake in haste at times or my recall is sometimes faulty, but for the most part what I say is tested if I present it as fact.

Besides. I prefer Alta Vista for searches...

[clambake]

Who said.....

"I looked into his eyes and saw his soul".

[Wild Cobra]

Than you didn't read the whole thing that Summers found for you. Of course all that crap was out of context, because it makes for better sound bites and cheap political theater.

I did, and it is primarily in context. He highlighted parts of it wrong though. You disagree with all the sentiments being socialistic? Let's not forget the "I want to take their profits" statement referring to the oil companies. I'm surprised that one wasn't included. Maybe it was too memorable and would have given Hillary away?

1) Hillary for President 2008 site (http://www.hillaryforpresident-2008.com/)

2) ECONOMIC POLICY: Modern Progressive Vision: Shared Prosperity] May 29, 2007 speech (http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=1839)

3, 4, and 5) 6/4/07 Sojourners Presidential Forum (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0706/04/sitroom.03.html)

6) Oil Firms Turn Katrina Into Profits, Clinton Says (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/02/AR2005090202079_pf.html)



Quite frankly I find this laziness typical of conservatives who get all their "news" from talk radio, Fox "news", et al.

Call it laziness if you want. I listen to Neal Boortz, Victoria Taft, Lars Larson, and Air America. I listen to a few other programs from time to time. I rarely take these things at face value. I do look things up.



Did you do that yourself, or was it a copy and paste job from some right-wing blog?

It's on Neal Boortz's site. Link to archive:

Today's Nuze: October 08, 2007 (http://boortz.com/nuze/200710/10082007.html)



My guess is that it seems like the kind of cynical crap that Limbaugh puts on a consistant basis.

Limbaugh has a version of it on his site too. I found that when I was sourcing the quotes. He doesn't have it in the same format, but uses the same quotes. I don't know who the original source is.

[clambake]

lookz like your back to the basics