Saints @ Seahawks

[ShoogarBear]

If you don't want to get your ass kicked then PLAY BETTER!

[SAtown]

:lmao

[peewee's lovechild]

Where's Tlong now???

[peewee's lovechild]

28-7.

The Shehawks are so very impressive . . . at getting their asses handed to them.

[peewee's lovechild]

Reggie had the longest run of his career (three of them) on the same day against the might Shehawks.

[peewee's lovechild]

The team that Tlong says is supposed to take the NFC can't find a way to beat the Aint's, who have yet to win a game this season.

[peewee's lovechild]

Reggie Bush: 88 yds rushing, 42 yds receiving.

It's like he's playing against Washington State or something.

[midgetonadonkey]

How 'bout them Cowboys!!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Well I should say Tlong deserves it because nothing but cocky shit comes out of his mouth and some of us Cowboys fans admitted that we'd probably get our asses handed to us today.

[peewee's lovechild]

How 'bout them Cowboys!!

Haven't changed your sig yet??

3-3.

HOUSE OF PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[exstatic]

Just to stir the pot...

In the past, the Saints have had a little map of Louisiana inside the big stripe on their uniform pants, on each hip. It's not there anymore. They've replaced it with their helmet logo, the fleur de lis. Could they be breaking their ties already?

[Obstructed_View]

Where would they go?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

San Antonio? :vomit:

[midgetonadonkey]

Haven't changed your sig yet??

3-3.

HOUSE OF PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just changed it.

But seriously, I knew they would lose so why are you trying to break my balls about their loss when I knew it. You, on the other hand, said the Cowboys would go 16 and 0. You also said that if they do lose, you admire the Patriots' "story" and would be their fan since they have better record.

[ShoogarBear]

Back off, Shoog. :makemyday

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol

[exstatic]

Where would they go?
SA would be interested, and I read a story that Toronto wants an NFL franchise. Not sure how well it would sell up there. CFL football moves a lot faster and looser.

[peewee's lovechild]

I just changed it.

But seriously, I knew they would lose so why are you trying to break my balls about their loss when I knew it. You, on the other hand, said the Cowboys would go 16 and 0. You also said that if they do lose, you admire the Patriots' "story" and would be their fan since they have better record.

Man, you're so full of shit.

You're just using that "I knew my team would lose bullshit" to your advantage. That's your M.O. You tell everyone how bad your team is so you can tell everyone "I told you they sucked" when they do, and so that you can brag "I had a feeling they'd be better" when they win.

It's a win-win situation with you.

Fucking grow some balls.
Have faith in your team.

Fuck, what kind of fan are you when you shit on your team??

Fucking pussy.

[T Park]

I haven't given up on the "San Antonio Saints" :)

man to get a Reggie bush jersey would rock...

[Obstructed_View]

San Antonio? :vomit:
Pipe dream. If San Antonio can't sell out an 18,000 seat NBA stadium for a playoff game, there's no way any NFL owner's going to bring his team to play in that barn, much less the owner of the least successful franchise in league history.

[peewee's lovechild]

Pipe dream. If San Antonio can't sell out an 18,000 seat NBA stadium for a playoff game, there's no way any NFL owner's going to bring his team to play in that barn, much less the owner of the least successful franchise in league history.

They only have to sell out 8 home games.

The Spurs have to sell out a million home games.

The NBA season is much too long and there are way too many games. The people of San Antonio can afford to buy 8 tickets.

An NFL franchise in San Antonio would work.

[tlongII]

The Seahawks laid an egg last night. Their play was disgusting. I was worried about this game though because the Saints are much better than their record indicated. As soon as the 'hawks screwed up that punt I knew we were in for a long night.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

You mean it wasn't when the overhead camera nearly killed your quarterback?

[j-6]

Just to stir the pot...

In the past, the Saints have had a little map of Louisiana inside the big stripe on their uniform pants, on each hip. It's not there anymore. They've replaced it with their helmet logo, the fleur de lis. Could they be breaking their ties already?


I thought that patch was for celebrating their return to the Superdome last season after the $200M Katrina renovation.

And peewee, regarding the Saints moving to San Antonio, we've had some epic discussions here if you want to search around. I still think SA is behind LA (definitely) and Portland (probably) in relocation and or expansion talks. Hell, the Riverside area (east of Orange County) has twice as many people living there as SA. They're probably ahead of Sacramento and Orlando just because Florida and California already have three teams in each state.

I read an article about going to ticketreserve.com and reserving seats for UFL games in potential markets in Time last week. Maybe that's the best way for the NFL to really take notice of SA being more than a training camp town and the folks that tried to poach the Saints two years ago.

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1669649,00.html

[Fillmoe]

only if drew brees showed up last week i would still be undefeated in my fantasy league

[mikejones99]

Biggest waste of 100 million ever on that running back and idiot QB. They should just fold all their sports franchises before it is too late

[peewee's lovechild]

I thought that patch was for celebrating their return to the Superdome last season after the $200M Katrina renovation.

And peewee, regarding the Saints moving to San Antonio, we've had some epic discussions here if you want to search around. I still think SA is behind LA (definitely) and Portland (probably) in relocation and or expansion talks. Hell, the Riverside area (east of Orange County) has twice as many people living there as SA. They're probably ahead of Sacramento and Orlando just because Florida and California already have three teams in each state.

I read an article about going to ticketreserve.com and reserving seats for UFL games in potential markets in Time last week. Maybe that's the best way for the NFL to really take notice of SA being more than a training camp town and the folks that tried to poach the Saints two years ago.

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1669649,00.html

L.A. has officially withdrawn consideration for an expansion/relocation team. They said they no longer have any interest in trying to woo the NFL.

Portland, however, I've never given much thought to. That is a possibility. However, I still maintain that SA can make an NFL team work.

[Fillmoe]

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v128/23/51/702150773/n702150773_385507_9735.jpg

[j-6]

L.A. has officially withdrawn consideration for an expansion/relocation team. They said they no longer have any interest in trying to woo the NFL.

Portland, however, I've never given much thought to. That is a possibility. However, I still maintain that SA can make an NFL team work.

Jerry's press conference last Friday made specific mentions of meeting with the leading potential investors in LA before the season started, and how he's meeting with other NFL owners tomorrow (Tuesday, the 16th) regarding that market. They talked about Toronto, too.

You can believe all you want about San Antonio's ability to make the NFL happen, but the league wants LA.

[peewee's lovechild]

Jerry's press conference last Friday made specific mentions of meeting with the leading potential investors in LA before the season started, and how he's meeting with other NFL owners tomorrow (Tuesday, the 16th) regarding that market. They talked about Toronto, too.

You can believe all you want about San Antonio's ability to make the NFL happen, but the league wants LA.

I didn't read about that.

Well, there's still hope.

By the way, that chick on you sig is hawt!

[samikeyp]

You can believe all you want about San Antonio's ability to make the NFL happen, but the league wants LA.

That's it in a nutshell. I believe SA can do it...but the NFL wants that market.

[tlongII]

The NFL would work in many cities. I agree that their first choice is L.A. though.

[ShoogarBear]

The NFL would work in many cities.It needs to start working in Seattle, apparently.

[NBA Junkie]

They only have to sell out 8 home games.

The Spurs have to sell out a million home games.

The NBA season is much too long and there are way too many games. The people of San Antonio can afford to buy 8 tickets.

An NFL franchise in San Antonio would work.

If I remember right, the Saints weren't selling out in San Antonio a couple years ago, either.

If the San Antonio were to get an NFL franchise, the Alomodome would have to undersgo a major renovation or a new stadium would have to be built. I'm not so sure the NFL is keen on awarding a franchise to a town that ranks 37th in terms of market size.

LA or Las Vegas has a better chance of landing the Saints before SA does.

[BeerIsGood!]

SA would be a horrible NFL town since the overwhelming majority of football fans there are life long Cowboy fans. You aren't converting those people.

[peewee's lovechild]

If I remember right, the Saints weren't selling out in San Antonio a couple years ago, either.

If the San Antonio were to get an NFL franchise, the Alomodome would have to undersgo a major renovation or a new stadium would have to be built. I'm not so sure the NFL is keen on awarding a franchise to a town that ranks 37th in terms of market size.

LA or Las Vegas has a better chance of landing the Saints before SA does.

Vegas will never get a NFL team because of all the gambling implications.

[peewee's lovechild]

SA would be a horrible NFL town since the overwhelming majority of football fans there are life long Cowboy fans. You aren't converting those people.

Whenever the Cowboys play at Arizona, it's nothing but Cowboy jerseys.

If it worked out for Arizona, why can't it work out for San Antonio?

[peewee's lovechild]

If I remember right, the Saints weren't selling out in San Antonio a couple years ago, either.

If the San Antonio were to get an NFL franchise, the Alomodome would have to undersgo a major renovation or a new stadium would have to be built. I'm not so sure the NFL is keen on awarding a franchise to a town that ranks 37th in terms of market size.

LA or Las Vegas has a better chance of landing the Saints before SA does.

Did you see the Jacksonville-Houston game??

There was a shitload of empty seats.

If Jacksonville can have a football team, I don't see why S.A. can't.

Plus, I went to two of the Saint's games here in S.A., the seats were completely filled up. The tailgating was awesome too.

[Obstructed_View]

They only have to sell out 8 home games.

The Spurs have to sell out a million home games.

The NBA season is much too long and there are way too many games. The people of San Antonio can afford to buy 8 tickets.

An NFL franchise in San Antonio would work.

Um, Western Conference Finals game 1 isn't a regular season game. If there's not enough interest to sell out 20 thousand seats in the playoffs for the best team in the league, then no idiot in his right mind would risk trying to sell 65,000 tickets for a football team.

It's all moot anyway; getting the Alamodome ready for a current NFL franchise would cost as much as it did to build the stadium in the first place.

[peewee's lovechild]

Um, Western Conference Finals game 1 isn't a regular season game. If there's not enough interest to sell out 20 thousand seats in the playoffs for the best team in the league, then no idiot in his right mind would risk trying to sell 65,000 tickets for a football team.

It's all moot anyway; getting the Alamodome ready for a current NFL franchise would cost as much as it did to build the stadium in the first place.

Again, the basketball post season goes on forever.

Did they sell out the other games??

Anyway, it's just 8 home games they have to sell out every year. And, with all the football nuts (myself included) from the Valley up to Austin, it's actually quite achievable.

[j-6]

I don't see the 65K seat Alamodome selling out for an epic clash between the 2-5 Riverwalkers and the 3-4 Cardinals.

[peewee's lovechild]

I don't see the 65K seat Alamodome selling out for an epic clash between the 2-5 Riverwalkers and the 3-4 Cardinals.

True, but that can be said about many other teams.

[Fabbs]

The Seahawks laid an egg last night. Their play was disgusting. I was worried about this game though because the Saints are much better than their record indicated. As soon as the 'hawks screwed up that punt I knew we were in for a long night.
Could the Hawks possibly lay two eggs in a row.
I can't see St Louis with banged up Bulger getting some painkiller shots, playing and winning but is it possible? What up with Seattle?

[T Park]

I gaurantee you I would buy season tickets, and I would miss prob 3 or 4 of the home games.

[Loose Cannon]

The Saints have a 30,000 deep waiting list for season tickets.

San Antonio can't sell out an NBA playoff game.

Give me a fucking break.

[peewee's lovechild]

The Saints have a 30,000 deep waiting list for season tickets.

San Antonio can't sell out an NBA playoff game.

Give me a fucking break.

You're still not understanding.

NBA > games than NFL, therefore > tickets to sell.

And yet, they have sold out several playoff games.

So, you don't make much of a point.

[Obstructed_View]

You're still not understanding.

NBA > games than NFL, therefore > tickets to sell.

And yet, they have sold out several playoff games.

So, you don't make much of a point.
Actually, you are the one that doesn't understand. It's a financial decision made by someone who wants to make money relocating a team.

The NBA is currently the only game in town. The Spurs are currently in the middle of their most successful run in team history, with three all stars, a new arena and multiple championships. They were unable to sell out game 1 of the Western Conference Finals in a stadium half the size of the Alamodome. The owner of a team would see the above and think twice about moving into a city with a brand new stadium and without two competing franchises within 250 miles.

In short, relocating a team to a town whose citizens point out the long NBA season as a reason not to be bothered to spend money on playoff tickets isn't something a smart businessman would do.

[NBA Junkie]

Did you see the Jacksonville-Houston game??

There was a shitload of empty seats.

If Jacksonville can have a football team, I don't see why S.A. can't.

Plus, I went to two of the Saint's games here in S.A., the seats were completely filled up. The tailgating was awesome too.

They were playing the Houston fucking Texans.

That game was sold out since it was on in the Jacksonville area. A lot of people probably didn't think it was worth the trouble going.

Jacksonville has more than proven it deserves and NFL franchise.

Unless SA is willing to shell out big money for a state of the art stadium, it's not getting a pro franchise, period!

[peewee's lovechild]

Actually, you are the one that doesn't understand. It's a financial decision made by someone who wants to make money relocating a team.

The NBA is currently the only game in town. The Spurs are currently in the middle of their most successful run in team history, with three all stars, a new arena and multiple championships. They were unable to sell out game 1 of the Western Conference Finals in a stadium half the size of the Alamodome. The owner of a team would see the above and think twice about moving into a city with a brand new stadium and without two competing franchises within 250 miles.

In short, relocating a team to a town whose citizens point out the long NBA season as a reason not to be bothered to spend money on playoff tickets isn't something a smart businessman would do.

You're basing all this on 1 game that wasn't sold out?

Okay, that makes sense.

But, do me a favor, give me the number of tickets that would need to be sold for a football season and compare them to the number of tickets actually sold by the Spurs in one season.

Tell me wich is the greater.

[peewee's lovechild]

They were playing the Houston fucking Texans.

That game was sold out since it was on in the Jacksonville area. A lot of people probably didn't think it was worth the trouble going.

Jacksonville has more than proven it deserves and NFL franchise.

Unless SA is willing to shell out big money for a state of the art stadium, it's not getting a pro franchise, period!

Your second sentence doesn't make much sense, but whatever.

The knock on Jacksonville was that they were a small market and that they wouldn't work as an expansion team for that reason.

According to you, it's proven that it deserves a NFL franchise. Using that ratinale, San Antonio should have an equal chance at a NFL franchise.

[Obstructed_View]

You're basing all this on 1 game that wasn't sold out?

Okay, that makes sense.

But, do me a favor, give me the number of tickets that would need to be sold for a football season and compare them to the number of tickets actually sold by the Spurs in one season.

Tell me wich is the greater.
You can try to split hairs all you want, but it was a pretty big fucking game, and it didn't sell out. That looks BAD. Someone on the outside is going to look at that and give it a lot of weight. More than it deserves? Perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that they will. It doesn't matter how many tickets you sell in the regular season if there's a perception that the fans use that as justification for not selling out a conference finals game (exactly what you are doing, in fact). What's to stop that same fan base from using that same excuse for not buying football tickets? Before anyone entertains the idea of relocating a franchise, especially to a small market, that should never enter the conversation.

Emotionally, I want San Antonio to have a pro team as much as anybody. Personally, I'd rather they not get one and have it fail, and I'm not going to deny the factors that a businessman would take into account, but a fan would try to overlook.

[peewee's lovechild]

You can try to split hairs all you want, but it was a pretty big fucking game, and it didn't sell out. That looks BAD. Someone on the outside is going to look at that and give it a lot of weight. More than it deserves? Perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that they will. It doesn't matter how many tickets you sell in the regular season if there's a perception that the fans use that as justification for not selling out a conference finals game (exactly what you are doing, in fact). What's to stop that same fan base from using that same excuse for not buying football tickets? Before anyone entertains the idea of relocating a franchise, especially to a small market, that should never enter the conversation.

Emotionally, I want San Antonio to have a pro team as much as anybody. Personally, I'd rather they not get one and have it fail, and I'm not going to deny the factors that a businessman would take into account, but a fan would try to overlook.

I just can't believe that you're basing all this on 1 game not being sold out.

As a business man, I would look at total revenue pulled in. I wouldn't concentrate on 1 game not being sold out. As a business man, the bottom line is the only thing I'd worry about. And, I don't see the Spurs starving for money.

[Obstructed_View]

I just can't believe that you're basing all this on 1 game not being sold out.

As a business man, I would look at total revenue pulled in. I wouldn't concentrate on 1 game not being sold out. As a business man, the bottom line is the only thing I'd worry about. And, I don't see the Spurs starving for money.
When a one sport town can't sell out playoff games for its championship team, that's a good indication it's not ready for a second team.

And the only reason the Spurs are still in San Antonio is because they got a new building in order to start turning a profit. The vote to build the stadium took place during a championship celebration, and still only got 60% of the votes.

[mikejones99]

100 mil for the most retarded running back/qb combo ever hasslebeck n alexander. Seattle sports has fallen to it's lowest point ever.

[j-6]

You're basing all this on 1 game that wasn't sold out?

Okay, that makes sense.

But, do me a favor, give me the number of tickets that would need to be sold for a football season and compare them to the number of tickets actually sold by the Spurs in one season.

Tell me wich is the greater.

OK. In 2006, the Redskins had over 700,000 fans come see them in eight games at 109% of stadium capacity, or just less than 50,000 less than the Wizards had in 41 games at 91% capacity. First in the league. The Redskins outdraw the Cowboys by 200,000 people and both parks sitting empty in Los Angeles (Rose Bowl 90K, Coliseum 92K) have seating capacities greater than DC's FedEx Field.

My point? The Spurs got about 765,000 last year at 101% (9th), about 10K more than Washington. San Antonio would have to damn near match that number in the middle of basketball season to even match Los Angeles' potential for NFL attendance, and the max capacity of the Dome over eight NFL games is only 524K.

SA needs to be cheering for some disgruntled rich asshole to hurry up, move to Los Angeles, and pull them out of the equation before seriously setting focus on hooking a franchise.