9/11 WTC Demolition worker to confess!

[Wild Cobra]

Or....the government along with its accomplice, the corporate M$M simply doesn't want the story told.....at least, not giving it any credibility...trouble is....the credibility comes from all the collaborated research that has already been done....
Well, it's obvious that the media isn't in bed with the republicans. Are you saying it's a democrat plot?

[ChumpDumper]

MAX exposure for MAX impact.....what so hard to understand about that?So, it's just not that important to the country. That's not hard to understand.

[Yonivore]

She's not a demolitions expert. What the hell are you talking about here?

[mookie2001]

smegmol again

the 9/11 commission report is the official government report on the terrorist attacks, in that book it totally skips the damage from the planes hitting the building, the fires, melting, steel structure and collapse, and the entire subject of wtc 7
anything left out of the BULLSHIT 9/11 commisson report, or contrary to, is what people consider an alternative or conspiracy theory

whats more bullshit is that people are basing their "debunking" theories on nothing but dudes with websites and youtube videos, the same people they scoff

[ChumpDumper]

anything left out of the BULLSHIT 9/11 commisson report, or contrary to, is what people consider an alternative or conspiracy theoryUntrue.

The closest I have seen to an actual alternative theory has been put forth by none other than Galileo, Swiss-cheese like though it may be.


whats more bullshit is that people are basing their "debunking" theories on nothing but dudes with websites and youtube videos, the same people they scoffAt least the debunkers have an actual theory.

If there is an alternative theory that explains all the aspects of 9/11, I'm all ears -- or eyes -- whatever.

[Nbadan]

You don't disprove a theory by presenting an opposing theory, you see if the theory being presented stands up to scientific scrutiny.....NIST has had 6 years to make it's predetermined conclusion, that fire destroyed WTC7, meet the scientific facts and they haven't been able to do it in a way that will stand up to scrutiny...that says a lot....

[Mavs08]

Dan, cbf, pego, mookie, mouse . . . what part of this theory do you guys agree with?

Looks like Chump and his boy wonder Yonnivore may have to move to Canada to avoid any more embarrassment when the truth surfaces!


:wakeup

[mouse]

I would love to see Yonnie and Chump sit down and watch a few 9/11 films with the rest of us. As soon as they see something they disagree with we stop the dvd and they can present their case.

[Howard K Stern]

Or what if its the other way around? You and Nbadan will have to find a cave in Afghanistan :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You don't disprove a theory by presenting an opposing theory, you see if the theory being presented stands up to scientific scrutiny.....NIST has had 6 years to make it's predetermined conclusion, that fire destroyed WTC7, meet the scientific facts and they haven't been able to do it in a way that will stand up to scrutiny...that says a lot....It's the only theory I have seen so far, and WTC 7 has several reasonable possible explanations that have already been written down. It doesn't matter that they haven't been able to narrow it down to one certainty. They have also gone out of their way to rule out controlled demolition, so I don't know why this is still an issue.

Let me know when someone has a better theory. I'm not a scientist and I'm lazy -- the theory that Islamic terrorists were behind 9/11 is the most complete, most easily explained and most easily defended theory out there.

Show me a better one.

[Galileo]

It's the only theory I have seen so far, and WTC 7 has several reasonable possible explanations that have already been written down. It doesn't matter that they haven't been able to narrow it down to one certainty. They have also gone out of their way to rule out controlled demolition, so I don't know why this is still an issue.

Let me know when someone has a better theory. I'm not a scientist and I'm lazy -- the theory that Islamic terrorists were behind 9/11 is the most complete, most easily explained and most easily defended theory out there.

Show me a better one.

Attack Scenario 404 *
How the Attack Might Have Been Engineered (But Probably Wasn't)
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/analysis/scenario404.html

This was written by Jim Hoffman, the world's top 9/11 analyst.

His websites include:

www.911research.com

www.wtc7.net

[Galileo]

Attack Scenario 404 *
How the Attack Might Have Been Engineered (But Probably Wasn't)
The case that the 9/11/01 attack was an inside job can be made quite apart from any specific theory as to how it was accomplished, by simply demonstrating that only insiders had the means and opportunity to execute key elements of the attack. The true nature of such an operation is undoubtedly hidden behind layer upon layer of cover story, and its details may never be discovered. Speculative theories of the operation, while not verifiable, nonetheless can be useful in answering important questions about the attack, such as the size of the conspiracy required to carry it out.

Attack Scenario 404 is such a theory. It shows that, although the attack employed a variety of sophisticated communications and weapons technologies, all of these technologies were available "off-the-shelf", having been developed by secret programs ostensibly for other purposes. Specific tasks required to fulfill the mission were outsourced to companies providing strict confidentiality and working on a need-to-know basis.

This scenario shows that, through their positions of access in the military command structure, a very small group of people would have been able to appropriate these technologies to carry out the attack. While the attack is engineered by a core of only a dozen people, vast numbers of people facilitate the attack and cover-up, for the most part unknowingly, by simply doing what they normally do in their positions: promote and protect their agencies and the status quo. The public at large participates in the cover-up by failing to question the attack and instead believing the relatively comforting myth of bin Laden.

This scenario contrasts with Professor A.K. Dewdney's Operation Pearl, which requires large numbers of insiders. One of the most persuasive arguments made by defenders of the official story is that an inside job would have involved a conspiracy too large to keep concealed. Attack Scenario 404 provides a counterexample.

Hypothetical Attack Scenario 404
last updated: 6/1/6
Attack Scenario
The attack consists of four component operations:
the disabling of the air defense system
the take-over, piloting, and crashing of Flights 11, 175, and 77
the hijacking and shoot-down of Flight 93
the demolition of the World Trade Center towers
All operations employ a combination of hierarchical command structure, secrecy, and automation to achieve their objectives. All rely almost entirely on infrastructure created for other purposes.
Disabling the Air Defense System
The stage for the air defense stand-down is set months before the attack through changes in procedures for responding to hijacked aircraft. A June 1, 2001 order from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff requires that all requests from FAA for assistance in suspected hijacking events be forwarded to the Secretary of Defense for approval. From June through September 10th, Rumsfeld's office promptly dispatches intercept requests, and the new procedure is not questioned.

The conspirators schedule a number of war games to take place during the attack and act as cover for the operation. Air Force and Air National Guard units are told to expect deviations of airliners as part of the exercises. Operation Northern Vigilance deploys most of the fighters normally available to defend the northeast to locations in northern Canada and Alaska. A war game setting Operation Vigilant Guardian against Operation Vigilant Warrior is played on the day of the attack. It involves the insertion of virtual radar blips, indistinguishable from the blips of real aircraft, on military radar screens. FAA radar screens are not affected, and FAA officials promptly notify NORAD of deviations. (NORAD and the 9/11 Commission would subsequently supply contradictory notification timelines which bore little resemblance to reality.) FAA requests for assistance are directed to Rumsfeld's office, as per the June 1st order. Rumsfeld's deputy finally orders jets scrambled from Otis Air Force Base just as the North Tower is hit, and later from Langley. The pilots from both Otis and Langley think that they are participating in Vigilant Guardian and fly subsonic as instructed.

The Langley jets did not take off until 9:25, but the pilots had been in their cockpits since about 9:10 -- only about ten minutes since the North Tower strike went live on most local TV affiliates. Vigilant Guardian was so much like the real thing that a participant could easily mistake radio chatter about the attacks as part of the exercises. However, these and other interceptor pilots might have learned that the attack was real by phone or television before scrambling and were a threat to the completion of Flight 77's mission. But the Pentagon attack was a bonus. Even if the military had managed to foil the attack, both of the Twin Towers had already been hit and the destruction in Manhattan could continue to unfold, sufficient pretext for the War on Terror.

Flights 11, 175 and 77
The use of AAL Flight 11 and UAL Flight 175 to attack the Twin Towers, and of AAL Flight 77 to attack the Pentagon requires the execution of two main tasks in each case:

Rendering unconscious the flight crew and passengers, preventing any communications from them about events in the cabin.
Taking over the flight computers, allowing the planes to be auto-piloted to their targets.

Task 1 is achieved with aerosol bombs of decapacitating gas hidden in luggage. The gas is fentanyl, the extremely potent opiate used by Russian forces to end the hostage crisis in the theater in Chechnya. The bombs detonate when the barometric trigger senses a cabin pressure corresponding to an altitude of 28,000 feet. The fentanyl gas diffuses throughout the cabin and is absorbed so rapidly by the victims that they cannot even pick up a cell phone or handset to initiate a call.

Task 2 is accomplished with an autopilot program in an upgrade package, disguised as a high-altitude stall-recovery program. The instrument-triggered program is started by the flight computer when the plane passes through 30,000 feet and proceeds to fly the aircraft into its target with down-to-the-meter accuracy.

Pairs of operatives at Logan and Dulles airports posing as passengers check the bomb-concealing luggage onto the targeted flights.

Technicians in a control center in Building 7 track the three jetliners and can communicate with the autopilot program through a data port. If necessary they can modify the programmed course of the aircraft.

On Flights 11, 175, and 77, a nearly identical sequence of events transpires. First the decapacitating gas is dispersed, knocking out everyone on board. Then, after about 5 minutes, as the plane continues to climb, the Trojan horse program is activated and it proceeds to turn the transponder off and begin maneuvering the plane toward its final target.

As Flight 77 swoops toward the Pentagon after a spectacular spiral dive, the program switches its transponder on, this time with a code identifying itself as a friendly F-16. Flying within 500 feet of the ground for the last mile of its approach, and at a speed of over 500 mph (three times as fast as jetliners normally fly so close to the ground) makes it appear to be a much smaller plane from a distance, with nearby witnesses being impressed by its size and sudden presence. Its friendly transponder allows it to avoid triggering the missile batteries on the lawn's perimeter. However, a specially-programmed surface-to air system, located less than 100 feet from the Pentagon's facade, fires a missile at the Flight 77 just as its nose begins to impact the facade. The explosion of the warhead shatters the plane's tail section, preventing the rudder from leaving an imprint on the facade. The speed of the crash prevents the explosions from greatly altering the trajectory of the plane's contents, which enter the building, mostly reduced to small pieces.

The aerobatic approach maneuver, the alteration of the impact damage shape by the missile strikes, the surprisingly and deceptively small appearance of the debris field, the immediate seizure of video capturing the attack, and the initial broadcast of a report of a commuter plane, would seed the notion that a 757 was not involved in the attack -- a notion later fed by releasing forged video frames from a Pentagon security camera. The idea that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon is seized upon by many 9-11 skeptics and is used to discredit all 9-11 skepticism.

Hijacking Flight 93
Flight 93 takes off from Newark and is shot down in Pennsylvania. The pilot of the interceptor is ordered not to discuss the incident. With the exception of the shoot-down, the events on Flight 93 are substantially the same as reported in the wake of the attack: hijackers on board do kill the pilots and seize control of the aircraft, and there is a passenger revolt.

The Destruction in Manhattan
The demolitions of the Twin Towers and Building 7 are accomplished through the detonation of high-explosive charges inconspicuously installed in all three buildings' elevator shafts, and, in the case of Building 7, small cutter charges placed adjacent perimeter columns near the building's base.

The number of explosive charges used in the Twin Towers is far less than would be employed in conventional demolitions of such large buildings, but their aggregate explosive energy is much greater. Each charge is contained in a capsule weighing about 40 pounds and encased in an impact- and fire-resistant casing similar to the casings that shield aircraft black boxes.

Each demolition charge has a detonator that goes off when it detects a radio signal that matches its unique code. Each charge is assigned to the nearest of a score of radio repeater clusters also hidden in the elevator shafts. During each tower's demolition sequence, a radio in Building 7 sends signals for the various explosive charges in rapid succession through the repeater clusters, forming a 2-level hub-and-spoke network. Software on the demolition-controlling computer allows the technicians to make last-minute changes to the programmed demolition sequences, such as to account for the positions at which the aircraft struck.

The high-explosive charges resemble conventional thermobaric devices, in which an initial charge disperses an explosive aerosol without detonating it, and a second charge ignites the aerosol, producing a strong blast wave. The delay between the dispersal and detonating charges is about five seconds, allowing the aerosol to traverse the distance between the elevator shafts and perimeter walls before being detonated. The explosive is designed to have almost no flash.

Personnel Requirements
By exploiting the hierarchical military command structure and automation, a small group of conspirators is able to execute the complex attack. The group consists of top-ranking Pentagon officials, top officials in the New York City government, and a small team of technicians. The technicians gain access to systems through authorizations passed down from the high-ranking officials.

The Pentagon
The Pentagon attack is engineered by simply gaining access to and programming the defensive systems already in place at the Pentagon. Most of the ensuing cover-up is carried out by personnel not knowingly involved in the conspiracy, but simply acting to protect their superiors.

The Destruction in Manhattan
The deployment of the explosive charges in the three World Trade Center skyscrapers is performed by a team of just three technicians working over a period of about four weeks. The explosive charges, disguised to look like lighting fixtures, are placed on the roofs of elevator cars and installed on the inside walls of the elevator shafts by a technician riding on the elevator. There are no security cameras inside the shafts to capture this operation. A controller is placed on each floor to signal the dozens of charges on that floor via short-distance radio links. After the attack, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani assures, through his control of the police force and over city contracts, that Ground Zero is sealed off and that the evidence is destroyed.

Total Personnel
The personnel who execute the attack are stratified into two layers: the command team, and several operations teams. The command team plans the operation, starting about a year before the attack, directs the operations teams for several months in advance of the attack, and monitors and coordinates the operation on the day of the attack. The operations teams perform specific tasks to prepare for the operation for several months before, and implement it on the day of the attack. Only the members of the command team are aware of the entire scope of the operation. Members of the operations teams are briefed on a need-to-know basis.

The Command Team
The command team consists of individuals in the highest levels of the United States government and the New York City government and selected deputies. Their executive authority uniquely empowers them to implement critical aspects of the operation and the official response to it without oversight, such as changing procedures for interception of hijacked aircraft, and disposing of the remains of the World Trade Center without proper investigation.

In addition to coordinating the preparations for and the response to the attack, the command team staffs the command centers on the day of the attack to coordinate last-minute adjustments in the operation, and implement fall-back plans in the event of failures. The two command centers are located Office of Emergency Management bunker on the 23rd floor of Building 7, and in the basement of the White House.


Why "Scenario 404"?
We chose this name for several reasons. First, it emphasizes that this is but one of hundreds of possible hypotheses that could be devised to explain the known facts. Its purpose is merely to show that the attack could have been executed by a small number of operatives using off-the-shelf technology. Second, it echoes the HTTP response code 404 issued by a web server when it cannot find a file requested by a client. Similarly, the evidence indicating exactly how the attack was executed will probably never be found, because part of the attack's design was to destroy that evidence.

[ChumpDumper]

Um, I asked for a better theory -- not one written by a software engineer who admits, in the title no less, that it probably didn't happen that way.


Why "Scenario 404"? Because he's a code monkey.

[Nbadan]

..and so it goes with 9/11 Commission Report faithful...forget facts..we'll tell you what the facts are...we've done an investigation and we've found....well, nothing....but trust us...we're right....

[Wild Cobra]

..and so it goes with 9/11 Commission Report faithful...forget facts..we'll tell you what the facts are...we've done an investigation and we've found....well, nothing....but trust us...we're right....
I suppose you still hink the earth is flat too?

[Nbadan]

You know I think the real problem here is that theories like missiles being used, or thermite, or hell, the bat-plane, you know, pick your favorite conspiracy, can exist because the government isn't being open with people about all it knows about 911...so many classified secrets that may not become evident for decades.....

[ChumpDumper]

..and so it goes with 9/11 Commission Report faithful...forget facts..we'll tell you what the facts are...we've done an investigation and we've found....well, nothing....but trust us...we're right....And the best the conspiracy non-theorists have come up with is a fantasy in which even they don't believe.

[101A]

The aerobatic approach maneuver, the alteration of the impact damage shape by the missile strikes, the surprisingly and deceptively small appearance of the debris field, the immediate seizure of video capturing the attack, and the initial broadcast of a report of a commuter plane, would seed the notion that a 757 was not involved in the attack -- a notion later fed by releasing forged video frames from a Pentagon security camera. The idea that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon is seized upon by many 9-11 skeptics and is used to discredit all 9-11 skepticism.:lol

Since one piece of the conspiracy has been debunked; THAT is now part of the conspiracy!!!

Classic.

You cannot disprove religion, after all.

[Wild Cobra]

I suppose the witnesses were brainwashed, and a crew bent and knocked down the streetlights too?

The fuselage is only 12 ft. 4 in. wide. They found 757 parts inside. Aluminum is strong and malleable, and could easily all be drawn into the small hole punched into the side.

Just a few photo's I have in a file. The first is parts from a 757 engine, associated with a cutaway diagram:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/rb211a.jpg

Now here is the face of the pentagon before the collapse:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Pentagon_precollapse.jpg

Now I edited the above photo to show clearly damaged areas by the wing. If it was a missile, it has a really long wingspan:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Pentagon_precollapse-edit.jpg

[Galileo]

I suppose the witnesses were brainwashed, and a crew bent and knocked down the streetlights too?

The fuselage is only 12 ft. 4 in. wide. They found 757 parts inside. Aluminum is strong and malleable, and could easily all be drawn into the small hole punched into the side.

Just a few photo's I have in a file. The first is parts from a 757 engine, associated with a cutaway diagram:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/rb211a.jpg

Now here is the face of the pentagon before the collapse:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Pentagon_precollapse.jpg

Now I edited the above photo to show clearly damaged areas by the wing. If it was a missile, it has a really long wingspan:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Pentagon_precollapse-edit.jpg

The Pentagon was hit by FL77. This conspiracy is a trap.

The Pentagon Attack:
What the Physical Evidence Shows
by
Jim Hoffman
http://www.911research.com/essays/pentagon/index.html

The Pentagon No-757-Crash Theory:
Booby Trap for 9/11 Skeptics
by Jim Hoffman
http://www.911research.com/essays/pentagontrap.html

[Galileo]

Pentagon Attack Errors
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/index.html

Don't be fooled. Focus on WTC 7.

[Wild Cobra]

Pentagon Attack Errors
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/index.html

Don't be fooled. Focus on WTC 7.
I'm not fooled, and I don't understand why you brought in an article that debunks the conspiracies?

There is a video of WTC-1 callapsing that clearly shows two large pieces falling towards the face of WTC-7. One, appears to be the one that racked out the corner, the other falls just right to knock out the promenade area. Thene some more smaller pieces follow:

WTC-1 video (http://xenonpuppy.net/video%20archive/collapse%2001_a.avi)

Look at the three stills from the video, then watch the video:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/WTC-7-1.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/WTC-7-2.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/WTC-7-3.jpg

[Galileo]

I'm not fooled, and I don't understand why you brought in an article that debunks the conspiracies?

There is a video of WTC-1 callapsing that clearly shows two large pieces falling towards the face of WTC-7. One, appears to be the one that racked out the corner, the other falls just right to knock out the promenade area. Thene some more smaller pieces follow:

WTC-1 video (http://xenonpuppy.net/video%20archive/collapse%2001_a.avi)

Look at the three stills from the video, then watch the video:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/WTC-7-1.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/WTC-7-2.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/WTC-7-3.jpg

The chunks that hit WTC have nothing to do with its controlled demolition collapse.

Controlled demolition companies do not throw debris at one corner of a building before they demolish them.

With WTC 7, and the Twin Towers, we have evidence that proves a conspiracy, and no evidence to contradict it.

With the Pentagon, they have just withheld evidence and we have no proof of a conspiracy

[ChumpDumper]

Controlled demolition companies do not throw debris at one corner of a building before they demolish them.I agree. That's why this is obviously not a controlled demolition.


With WTC 7, and the Twin Towers, we have evidence that proves a conspiracy, and no evidence to contradict it.:lmao

[smeagol]

mookie, what a fucking pussy you are man.

fucking pussy.

[xrayzebra]

Has that demolition man confessed yet? Where is he?

[RandomGuy]

Pentagon Attack Errors

Don't be fooled. Focus on WTC 7.

Translation:

"The stupid shit from the WTC towers has been so thoroughly debunked that not even most dumb-ass conspiracy theorists believe it, so the movement will instead focus on something else to hide how weak the evidence is."

[Wild Cobra]

Translation:

"The stupid shit from the WTC towers has been so thoroughly debunked that not even most dumb-ass conspiracy theorists believe it, so the movement will instead focus on something else to hide how weak the evidence is."
Good translation. What will they do when WTC-7 gets completely debunked?

a silly question...

How could WTC 7 be planned so quickly after a sneak attack?

[Galileo]

Translation:

"The stupid shit from the WTC towers has been so thoroughly debunked that not even most dumb-ass conspiracy theorists believe it, so the movement will instead focus on something else to hide how weak the evidence is."

That's not the translation.

[Galileo]

Good translation. What will they do when WTC-7 gets completely debunked?

a silly question...

How could WTC 7 be planned so quickly after a sneak attack?

The attack was not a sneak.

WTC 7 was lined with explosives before 9/11, and on the morning of 9/11 at 6:47 A.M., the alarm system was turned off in this high security building.

Secureacom, the WTC security company, was also the security company at Dulles airport where FL77 was highjacked.

Marvin Bush, George's brother, had been a corporate executive at Secureacom in fiscal year 2000, and Wirt Walker, George's cousin was the CEO of Secureacom.

WTC 7 is debunk proof.

[Wild Cobra]

The attack was not a sneak.

WTC 7 was lined with explosives before 9/11, and on the morning of 9/11 at 6:47 A.M., the alarm system was turned off in this high security building.

Secureacom, the WTC security company, was also the security company at Dulles airport where FL77 was highjacked.

Marvin Bush, George's brother, had been a corporate executive at Secureacom in fiscal year 2000, and Wirt Walker, George's cousin was the CEO of Secureacom.

WTC 7 is debunk proof.
OK, help me here;

If debris from WTC 1 didn't bring WTC 7 down, how could Tower 1 be controlled well enough to appear as such?

What if no debris travelled in the direction of WTC 7. Would they still have blown WTC 7?

Why would it be staged to bring WTC 7 down with WTC 1 if everyone wants to claim it was impossible for it to happen that way?

Why not fly into WTC 7 also? But wait... it was a more traditional structure. A jet wouldn't bring it down, right? The trussing above the power station had to be damaged. Why isn't the debris from WTC-1 the answer? The latest reports claim it to be.

Now you are really out on a limb to invole the security company when something as small as a box butter could be brought on a flight. Have you ever flown before 9/11? I used to regularly, traveling for contracted maintenance. They only cared about larger quantities of metal like a gun. My belt buckel never set the things off. Neither would a box cutter.

What a joke bring Marvin up. His gig there was up in June 2000!

[Yonivore]

WTC 7 is debunk proof.
I'll tell you what's "debunk proof." That you're an imbecile.

[xrayzebra]

Has the demolition man confessed yet?

[Galileo]

Smoking gun testimony, demolition detonations reported by top brass in official statement

The rank of this witness is:
CAPTAIN KARIN DESHORE OF BATTALION 46

CAPTAIN KARIN DESHORE QUOTE :

“SOMEWHERE AROUND THE MIDDLE OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER, THERE WAS THIS ORANGE AND RED FLASH COMING OUT.

“INITIALLY IT WAS JUST ONE FLASH. THEN THIS FLASH JUST KEPT POPPING ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING AND THAT BUILDING HAD STARTED TO EXPLODE. THE POPPING SOUND, AND WITH EACH POPPING SOUND IT WAS INITIALLY AN ORANGE AND THEN RED FLASH CAME OUT OF THE BUILDING AND THEN IT WOULD JUST GO ALL AROUND THE BUILDING ON BOTH SIDES AS FAR AS I COULD SEE.

“THESE POPPING SOUNDS AND THE EXPLOSIONS WERE GETTING BIGGER, GOING BOTH UP AND DOWN AND THEN ALL AROUND THE BUILDING. I WENT INSIDE AND TOLD EVERYBODY THAT THE OTHER BUILDING OR THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION OCCURRING UP THERE AND SAID THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER MAJOR EXPLOSION. I DONT KNOW IF WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE SAFE HERE.”

The second building was being demolished.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/demolition-detonations-confirmed-in-official-statement/1621/

[thispego]

sounds like a description of a controlled demolition to me

[Yonivore]

Smoking gun testimony, demolition detonations reported by top brass in official statement

The rank of this witness is:
CAPTAIN KARIN DESHORE OF BATTALION 46

CAPTAIN KARIN DESHORE QUOTE :

“SOMEWHERE AROUND THE MIDDLE OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER, THERE WAS THIS ORANGE AND RED FLASH COMING OUT.

“INITIALLY IT WAS JUST ONE FLASH. THEN THIS FLASH JUST KEPT POPPING ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING AND THAT BUILDING HAD STARTED TO EXPLODE. THE POPPING SOUND, AND WITH EACH POPPING SOUND IT WAS INITIALLY AN ORANGE AND THEN RED FLASH CAME OUT OF THE BUILDING AND THEN IT WOULD JUST GO ALL AROUND THE BUILDING ON BOTH SIDES AS FAR AS I COULD SEE.

“THESE POPPING SOUNDS AND THE EXPLOSIONS WERE GETTING BIGGER, GOING BOTH UP AND DOWN AND THEN ALL AROUND THE BUILDING. I WENT INSIDE AND TOLD EVERYBODY THAT THE OTHER BUILDING OR THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION OCCURRING UP THERE AND SAID THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER MAJOR EXPLOSION. I DONT KNOW IF WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE SAFE HERE.”

The second building was being demolished.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/demolition-detonations-confirmed-in-official-statement/1621/
Not so fast; I think it's time to see a transformer explosion:

http://www.stupidcollege.com/items/Electric-Transformer-Explosion (http://www.stupidcollege.com/items/Electric-Transformer-Explosion)

All these buildings had transformers and transformer vaults.

[Wild Cobra]

I'll tell you what's "debunk proof." That you're an imbecile.
I'll second that motion.

[Nbadan]

So, it's just not that important to the country. That's not hard to understand.

:rolleyes

If it's not 'that important' why has the WH done everything it can to prevent Sibel Edmonds from talking?


On August 15, 2002, Burnett v. Al Baraka Investment & Dev. Corp., was filed by families of 600 victims of the 9/11 attacks against Saudi banks, charity organizations, and companies. Edmonds was to file a deposition in this case regarding her claim that FBI had foreknowledge of al-Qaeda's attacks against the World Trade Center. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds While she was employed as a contract linguist for the FBI, she was given top-secret security clearance and hired to retranslate material that was collected prior to 9/11 to determine if anything was missed in the translations relating to the plot. She concluded that documents clearly showed that the 9/11 hijackers were in the country and plotting to use airplanes as missiles to carry out an attack in a major city. She said documents also included information relating to terrorist financial activities. http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php... In response, the FBI offered her a substantial raise and a full-time job to encourage her not to go public that she had been asked by the Department of Justice to adjust translations of terrorist subject intercepts that had been received before September 11, 2001 by the FBI and CIA. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00251.htm The tapes she translated, often connected to terrorism, money laundering or other criminal activity, provide evidence that should have made apparent that an al-Qaeda plot was in the works. Edmonds is offended by the Bush White House claim that it lacked foreknowledge of the kind of attacks made by al-Qaeda on 9/11. "Especially after reading National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice where she said, we had no specific information whatsoever of domestic threat or that they might use airplanes. That's an outrageous lie. And documents can prove it's a lie." She testified before 9/11 commission staffers in February 2004 for more than three hours, providing detailed information about FBI investigations, documents and dates. http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/03/26/tran... Unfortunately, the 9/11 Commission reduced her contributions in the 9/11 Commission Report to a single footnote.

Amazingly, that footnote is more information than the Department of Justice has been willing to allow Edmonds to disclose to the American public. On October 18, 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft, in response to her lawsuit filed July 22, 2002, against the Department of Justice, the FBI, and several high-level officials, alleging that she was wrongfully terminated from the FBI in retaliation for reporting criminal activities committed by government officials and employees, invoked the State Secrets Privilege in order to prevent disclosure of the nature of Edmonds' work on the grounds that it would endanger national security, and asked that the suit be dismissed. Then on December 11, 2003, in response to her deposition in the Burnett v. Al Baraka 9/11 case, Ashcroft again invoking the State Secrets Privilege, filed a motion calling for Edmonds' deposition to be suppressed and for the entire case to be dismissed. The judge, seeking more information, ordered the government to produce any unclassified material relating to the case. In response, Ashcroft submitted further statements to justify the use of the State Secrets Privilege, and on May 13, 2004, took the unprecedented step of retroactively classifying as Top Secret all of the material and statements that had been provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2002 relating to Edmonds' own lawsuit, as well as the letters that had been sent by the Senators and republished by a watchdog group, Project On Government Oversight (POGO). Ashcroft’s reclassification was successful; Edmonds was barred from testifying in the 9/11 class action suit, and on July 6, 2004, her own suit was dismissed on state secrets grounds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds The judge who dismissed her suit, Reggie Walton, is also the judge in the trial of Scooter Libby. To this date, the Department of Justice gag order, despite all appeal attempts by Edmonds’ lawyers, has remained in effect. If it were to be rescinded, Edmonds told Kyle Hence, cofounder of 9-11 Citizens Watch, “it could lead to charges of treason being leveled against officials at top levels of the U.S. government”. Hence added, “If that is the case, then all those who have been involved in keeping this information from getting to the public are complicit in this treason”. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Sibel_Edmond...

While she has been gagged from revealing specifics of the crimes she discovered, Edmonds has gone on record describing the government’s reaction to 9/11 as a cover-up. "Nobody is looking at the Department of Defense aspect of the whole 911 cover-up. The FBI is citing two reasons for my gag order: to protect ‘sensitive’ diplomatic relations and to protect foreign U.S. business relationships," she said. "I will say this: The FBI is only a mouthpiece for the State Department. The State Department is the main reason for the cover-up. It has to do with foreign business relationships and who they are...Pakistan, Turkey...espionage in the State Department...preventing an investigation." She believes that "once this issue gets to be...investigated, you will be seeing certain (American) people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally… There is direct evidence involving no more than ten American names that I recognized… some are heads of government agencies or politicians--but I don’t want to go any further than that," revealing the content of the FBI intercepts she heard indicates that recognizable, very high-profile American citizens are linked to the 9/11 attacks. When asked in 2002 by CBS 60 Minutes co-host Ed Bradley, "did she seem credible to you? Did her story seem credible?" Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) said "Absolutely, she’s credible. And the reason I feel she’s very credible is because people within the FBI have corroborated a lot of her story." http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00251.htm Her credibility received further confirmation when on January 14, 2004, the Justice Department's Office unclassified summary of the Justice Department's Inspector General's report on Edmonds found that many of her claims “were supported, that the FBI did not take them seriously enough, and that her allegations were, in fact, the most significant factor in the FBI's decision to terminate her services”. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Sibel_Edmond...

[ChumpDumper]

If it's not 'that important' why has the WH done everything it can to prevent Sibel Edmonds from talking?She can talk -- why isn't she talking?

[NORCAL5I0]

Latest poll score shows..........






Bush lovers 1



Nbadan 99

you do the math!



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[Galileo]

OK, help me here;

If debris from WTC 1 didn't bring WTC 7 down, how could Tower 1 be controlled well enough to appear as such?

What if no debris travelled in the direction of WTC 7. Would they still have blown WTC 7?

Why would it be staged to bring WTC 7 down with WTC 1 if everyone wants to claim it was impossible for it to happen that way?

Why not fly into WTC 7 also? But wait... it was a more traditional structure. A jet wouldn't bring it down, right? The trussing above the power station had to be damaged. Why isn't the debris from WTC-1 the answer? The latest reports claim it to be.

Now you are really out on a limb to invole the security company when something as small as a box butter could be brought on a flight. Have you ever flown before 9/11? I used to regularly, traveling for contracted maintenance. They only cared about larger quantities of metal like a gun. My belt buckel never set the things off. Neither would a box cutter.

What a joke bring Marvin up. His gig there was up in June 2000!

* Controlled demolitions are controlled, you can start the charges off in whatever order you like. In the case of WTC 1 & 2, they started the charges near, but not exactly, where the planes hit.

* Yes they had to take WTC 7 down because it was loaded with explosives prior to 9/11. The fires created a smokescreen.

* The media strategy with WTC 7 was to have it totally ignored. After 9/11, it was never shown on TV for several years and most people forgot about it. If not for the Internet, it would still be forgotten.

* The people who hijacked the planes took over the cockpits with guns, not boxcutters. That is what the passengers and FAA reported, but this was buried in the news.

* Marvin Bush did indeed leave the security company officially in June 2000, but he still had connections and influence there. George Bush's cousin Wirt Walker was still an executive of the company on 9/11. The point here is that Secureacom was a politcally connected firm.

If you read the NIST reports on WTC 7, it shows the location of debris damage and possible debris damage. The SW corner was damaged, and the center of the south face may have been damaged.

A good article which disputes the damage in the center is here:

Photographic Analysis of Damage to WTC7 and Critical Errors in NIST's Estimations
http://www.studyof911.com/articles/winstonwtc701/

The NIST report also shows the area where the collapse initiated, the core columns near the eastern edge of the core below the east penthouse.

The debris damage has nothing to do with collapse, and NIST is attempting to come up with a fire theory instead.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not going to read a report from a guy who won't put his own name on it. And Winston Smith is a poor choice -- I guess he never read the whole book.

[Galileo]

I'm not going to read a report from a guy who won't put his own name on it. And Winston Smith is a poor choice -- I guess he never read the whole book.

The fact remains that there is NO photographic evidence showing major debris damage in the middle of the south face of WTC 7.

Nor does hypothetical debris damage there explain why the collapse looks just like a controlled demolition.

[ChumpDumper]

The fact remains that there is NO photographic evidence showing major debris damage in the middle of the south face of WTC 7.Hasn't been disproved either, nor is it necessary to explain the collapse.
Nor does hypothetical debris damage there explain why the collapse looks just like a controlled demolition.It looks that way because of the probable point of structural failure.

[Galileo]

Hasn't been disproved either, nor is it necessary to explain the collapse.It looks that way because of the probable point of structural failure.

It's not nescessary to explain the collapse if you want to cover up mass murder.

WTC 7 looks like a controlled demolition because it is a controlled demolition. Steel buildings that fall in controlled demolitions from office fires do not exist any more than Bigfoot or the Tooth Fairy exist.

[ChumpDumper]

It's not nescessary to explain the collapse if you want to cover up mass murder.Which is why they are still working on finding the exact cause.


WTC 7 looks like a controlled demolition because it is a controlled demolition.Nah. There's no reason to control it. You never came up with a good explanation of that.


Steel buildings that fall in controlled demolitions from office fires do not exist any more than Bigfoot or the Tooth Fairy exist.Exactly. Go back and read that sentence.

[Galileo]

Which is why they are still working on finding the exact cause.

Nah. There's no reason to control it. You never came up with a good explanation of that.

Exactly. Go back and read that sentence.

Precisely, now go back and read that sentence.

How long do you think it will take before NIST realizes that WTC 7 didn't fall from an office fire?

[ChumpDumper]

Precisely, now go back and read that sentence.No, you should. It's hilarious.


How long do you think it will take before NIST realizes that WTC 7 didn't fall from an office fire?It will be a more specific version of their current hypothesis:

"An initial local failure occurred at the lower floors (below floor 13) of the building due to fire and/or debris-induced structural damage of a critical column (the initiating event) which supported a large-span floor bay with an area of about 2,000 square feet;

Vertical progression of the initial local failure occurred up to the east penthouse, and as the large floor bays became unable to redistribute the loads, it brought down the interior structure below the east penthouse; and

Triggered by damage due to the vertical failure, horizontal progression of the failure across the lower floors (in the region of floors 5 and 7 that were much thicker and more heavily reinforced than the rest of the floors) resulted in a disproportionate collapse of the entire structure."

And you'll claim the report was fixed and that everyone at the NIST is in on the conspiracy too.

[smeagol]

It's great to see that Dan and mookie have finally come forward with a theory that makes sense.

Thanks dudes! :tu

Edit: the props is also directed towards mouse

[Whottt.]

Bush could go to Chumps house stick an Ice pick in his skull and he would still find a way to blame it on debris from the WTC :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

So what do you think really happened on 9/11, mouse?

[Tonto]

put down your PS2 for two hours and watch the movie.



http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/WTC/the-truth-1.gif

[ChumpDumper]

I watched that piece of crap last year when you asked.

Is there another edition now that they've found that most of what they said is bullshit like Loose Change?

[Yonivore]

put down your PS2 for two hours and watch the movie.



http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/WTC/the-truth-1.gif
Just out of curiosity, what's the slow-motion animated .gif of President Bush's statement supposed to be showing us?

[Nbadan]

In the new book, The Road to 9/11: Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America (http://tinyurl.com/323y4s), respected academic publisher, The University of California Press, prints a strong charge against Vice President Cheney, an extraordinary challenge coming from such an established publisher against a sitting Vice President;


"9/11 was the largest homicide by far in American history, yet it has never been adequately investigated. The public has been told of a conspiracy that included terrorist conspirators organized and financed abroad. But if U.S. defenses had functioned on that day as they had previously, the four planes at a minimum should have been intercepted by fighter aircraft. Yet we are told that even this did not happen. There is a domestic side to 9/11 as well, about which we still know next to nothing. Key evidence requested by the commission was initially withheld until subpoenas were issued, and some evidence was deliberately destroyed. Worse, there are systematic suppressions of evidence in the 9/11 Commission Report itself, along with unresolved contradictions in testimony and occasional misrepresentations of some crucial facts.

This chapter and the next will explore these issues and make the case that Vice President Cheney is himself a suspect in the events of 9/11 who needs to be investigated further."

- Peter Dale Scott, The Road to 9/11, p.194 (emphasis added)


An abridgment of the chapters that carry the charge is available here in PDF form, 143 kb download. (http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2007/ProfScottWhyCheneyMustTestify.pdf)

There are many reasons to impeach Cheney. This careful, thoroughly researched (http://www.buzzflash.com/store/reviews/793) volume only adds to the fire. Highly recommended reading for anyone interested in US Foreign and Domestic Policy, and indeed, 9/11.

[Nbadan]

Speaking of worth the price of admission..

"Jersey Girl" Patty Casazza and Bob McIlvaine speak about 911 Commission (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rukxI_GLc3w)

...explosive stuff...

[=RTM=]

another update................ a secret deal was made with Mark Cuban

[xrayzebra]

Hasn't that dude confessed yet? I want to see a confession!

And I also want to know how they got those people to fly the
planes into the WTC?

What would have happened had the planes entered the floors
where the charges were set?

And how did they get the passenger volunteers to do their
thing?

An inquiring mind wants to know......

Waterboard that guy and make him confess. That is what
I would do.

[Wild Cobra]

They found bodies and plane parts.

[johnsmith]

another update................ a secret deal was made with Mark Cuban



another update..............you're still an idiot.

[Nbadan]

Sibel Edmonds will blow the lid off what the government knew pre-911 and exposed criminal conspiracies against powerful legislators, so why won't the M$M bite?

EXCLUSIVE: Daniel Ellsberg Says Sibel Edmonds Case 'Far More Explosive Than Pentagon Papers'


'Gagged' FBI Whistleblower, Risking Jail, Says American Media Has Refused Her Offer to Disclose Classified Information, Including Criminal Allegations, Information Concerning 'Security of Americans', Charges Several Mainstream Publications Have Been Informed of 'Full Story' by Other FBI Leakers Nearly a Year Ago, Have Remained Mum...

-- Brad Friedman, The BRAD BLOG

"I'd say what she has is far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers," Daniel Ellsberg told us in regard to former FBI translator turned whistleblower Sibel Edmonds.

"From what I understand, from what she has to tell, it has a major difference from the Pentagon Papers in that it deals directly with criminal activity and may involve impeachable offenses," Ellsberg explained. "And I don't necessarily mean the President or the Vice-President, though I wouldn't be surprised if the information reached up that high. But other members of the Executive Branch may be impeached as well. And she says similar about Congress."

The BRAD BLOG spoke recently with the legendary 1970's-era whistleblower in the wake of our recent exclusive, detailing Edmonds' announce that she was prepared to risk prosecution to expose the entirety of the still-classified information that the Bush Administration has "gagged" her from revealing for the past five years under claims of the arcane "State Secrets Privilege".

Ellsberg, the former defense analyst and one-time State Department official, knows well the plight of whistleblowers. He himself was prepared to spend his life in prison for the exposure of some 7,000 pages of classified Department of Defense documents, concerning Executive Branch manipulation of facts and outright lies leading the country into an extended war in Vietnam.

Ellsberg seemed hardly surprised that today's American mainstream broadcast media has so far failed to take Edmonds up on her offer, despite the blockbuster nature of her allegations.

As Edmonds has also alluded, Ellsberg pointed to the New York Times, who "sat on the NSA spying story for over a year" when they "could have put it out before the 2004 election, which might have changed the outcome."

"There will be phone calls going out to the media saying 'don't even think of touching it, you will be prosecuted for violating national security,'" he told us.

"I have been receiving calls from the mainstream media all day," Edmonds recounted the day after we ran the story announcing that she was prepared to violate her gag-order to disclose all of the national security-related criminal allegations she has been kept from disclosing for the past five years.

"The media called from Japan and France and Belgium and Germany and Canada and from all over the world," she told The BRAD BLOG.

"But not from here?," we asked incredulously.

"I'm getting contact from all over the world, but not from here. Isn't that disgusting?," she shot back...

Link (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5260)

[ChumpDumper]

So why doesn't she tell the world through the world's media outlets that have called her?

This is sounding more and more like bs with every story.

If the right media outlet doesn't kiss her ass in just the right way, then what? She just dies without saying anything that will change/save/end the world?

Just spit it out. If it's news, it will be in the news.

[Nbadan]

Well, I think that she is looking for the expensive legal protection that the M$M can provide, remember she's already been threatened that if she talks about what she knows, she goes to jail...and in America if its not reported by CNN, FAUX News, ABC, or NBC it simply never happened.....my thoughts are that she is worried that the M$M will bury her allegations, no matter how earth shattering they are, remember, I post stuff that would be just as earth shattering, if the M$M would do their job and investigate it, but they don't, and people learn about these things years later when some BS has been spun to justify their illegal behavior...like the telecoms providing illegal info to the feds.....or the rendition and extradition of M.E. immigrants for merely being on a Terra watch list....

[ChumpDumper]

:lol If it's really that mind-blowing there will be an army of lawyers ready to take her case. In effect she is saying she is more important than this information, so iIcan only conclude that this woman fancies herself as being more important than the United States of America or that her information isn't as big a deal as you've made it out to be.

These are crap excuses, and your claims about the mainstream media's being both irrelevant and all-important at the same time are contradictory and disingenuous. The internet is the tail that wags the mainstream media's dog these days. If she put her full story on a decently read blog and the story had any merit, it would be picked up.

Or just write a damn book. Everyone else has.

[Nbadan]

These are crap excuses, and your claims about the mainstream media's being both irrelevant and all-important at the same time are contradictory and disingenuous. The internet is the tail that wags the mainstream media's dog these days. If she put her full story on a decently read blog and the story had any merit, it would be picked up.

Yeah, and what makes you think the blog would not be shut down and the story misreported? The M$M is largely irrelevant, but they are so out of their own doing, Still most people are lazy and ill-informed, of the hundreds, hell, maybe thousands of well-researched internet allegations I have posted here none have gone anywhere until they were eventually reported by the M$M....it's the power of the people....but what the people don't know, the people can't do anything about...

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, and what makes you think the blog would not be shut down and the story misreported?Nothing really makes me think it would -- once these things get out they get reposted everywhere else. Which blogs have been shut down for this kind of story lately? What about putting it in multiple sites in multiple countries at the same time. Who is going to shut all of them down?
it's the power of the people....but what the people don't know, the people can't do anything about...That's exactly why she should give up her information. And her playing coy about it and trying to get some kind of media deal with it is bullshit. If it's really that important and she really is a patriot, we would already have her information.

[DarkReign]

And her playing coy about it and trying to get some kind of media deal with it is bullshit. If it's really that important and she really is a patriot, we would already have her information.

Inclined to agree with CD here. If the facts and documents she holds are so mind-blowing and important, then where that info is released isnt nearly so.

That report and its contents could be posted on the net simutaneously across the world on thousands of different hosts, where she could concurrently appear on BBC explaing the finer details.

BBC is broadcast everywhere in the world (including here). If it is as important as they make it sound, the format will not matter in the slightest.

In closing, be out with it already.

[xrayzebra]

Hey no confession yet? Damn, when are we going to get that
confession?

[Nbadan]

Two recommended videos if you want to learn more about the Sibel Edmonds case and why the M$M doesn't want you to know

Sibel Edmonds. Everybody Knows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHnIyGWEz_Y)

Sibel Edmonds. Investigations Thwarted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cm-uRQmfUU)

[xrayzebra]

dan, I want the confession we were promised.......

[Nbadan]

Inclined to agree with CD here. If the facts and documents she holds are so mind-blowing and important, then where that info is released isnt nearly so.

That report and its contents could be posted on the net simutaneously across the world on thousands of different hosts, where she could concurrently appear on BBC explaing the finer details.

BBC is broadcast everywhere in the world (including here). If it is as important as they make it sound, the format will not matter in the slightest.

In closing, be out with it already.


Many of the accusations Sible Edmounds is ready to make have already been made before, and as explosive as they really are - spying, selling out the government, lying to the American people, out right treason - they have never, ever, been investigated by the M$M....so I don't see why Chumpy thinks that if she just posts it on some liberal blog that the M$M will all of the sudden wake up and start investigating - not gonna happen...

[ChumpDumper]

So she has already said what she had to say?

Why are we talking about her again?

If you are saying the MSM is never going to pick up her story, why is she demanding the MSM pick up her story on her terms?

This makes no sense whatsoever.

[Nbadan]

So she has already said what she had to say?

Common Chumpy, do a little research - her story was made 'retro-actively' top-secret by Dubya after she had already published some of her accusations on the web...hell, I remember a few years back, I posted a lot of her accusations....

[ChumpDumper]

So she refuses to make the accusations she has already made unless she gets full editorial control of one of the major US media outlets.

Tell me what I'm missing here.

[Nbadan]

Legal protection Chumpy - liberal blogs can't protect her if the FEDS come-down on her for revealing what they consider to be state secrets - they are more likely to throw her and the owners of any blog in Gitmo...now if the M$M did their job and investigated her accusations like they should have years ago - then public outrage would make this much less likely...

[ChumpDumper]

So her not going to jail for saying stuff she has already said before and gone to court over is more important than the very survival of the United States of America.

Ok.

[Spurtacular]

Cosmored

https://gab.com/MarietteC/posts/105930302416482606

[Spurtacular]

I clicked on the link and I got this.


Try to post it again. I'm curious about what it was.


Here's some stuff about 9/11.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/9-11-was-an-inside-job.114344/page-68#post-3661147

It's so clear that the US government planned and carried out the attacks that the moderator simply closed the thread with a lame excuse because he knew the shills* working that forum would have just ended up looking like horses' a---s if they tried to obfuscate the proof.


*
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286522

Probably a glitch. Try again later.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao gab

[RandomGuy]

Probably a glitch. Try again later.

You asshats never fail to fall for the stupidest shit possible.

:rollin calling on "moon landing hoax" guy to help your dumb ass.

What I am going to do, is develop an online persona, and create a bunch of fake narratives for asshats like you.

I will keep track of it all, and watch you dumbasses nod and grab onto the bullshit like it is gold, then spread it around totally oblivious to the that fact it was complete shit.

After a year or so, I will reveal to you and ol' Cosmo which stories I put out that were 100% made up.

And I will laugh, even more than I laugh at you now.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao gab

Snitch Bitch said you're on your meds.

I think it's good that you're taking your mental health seriously. :tu

[Chucho]

You asshats never fail to fall for the stupidest shit possible.

:rollin calling on "moon landing hoax" guy to help your dumb ass.

What I am going to do, is develop an online persona, and create a bunch of fake narratives for asshats like you.

I will keep track of it all, and watch you dumbasses nod and grab onto the bullshit like it is gold, then spread it around totally oblivious to the that fact it was complete shit.

After a year or so, I will reveal to you and ol' Cosmo which stories I put out that were 100% made up.

And I will laugh, even more than I laugh at you now.

derp is triggering you. Think about that.

[Spurtacular]

derp is triggering you. Think about that.

You can relate. Think about that.

[Blake]

Snitch Bitch said you're on your meds.

I think it's good that you're taking your mental health seriously. :tu

Said derp with his tin foil hat on, checking gab 24/7

[Spurtacular]

Said derp with his tin foil hat on, checking gab 24/7

Good one, cuck.

[Blake]

Good one, cuck.

Truth doesn't even faze you

[Spurtacular]

Truth doesn't even faze you

The truth that you're a cuckold doesn't even faze me. Yup. :tu

[Joseph Kony]

lol Spermtacular embarrassing himself per par

[Chucho]

For being the absolute bottom rung for 5 years, derp still finds ways to surpass absolute zero...

Went from whistling for DMC to rescue him, to Chris to Yachtschwitz to now Cosmo.


LOL, he's so toxic he needs to dial a tin foil spam troll to be his Capt. Save-a-Fag. :lol

[Ef-man]

Try again later.

:lmao

Utter derpian failure, par.

[Spurtacular]

For being the absolute bottom rung for 5 years, derp still finds ways to surpass absolute zero...

Went from whistling for DMC to rescue him, to Chris to Yachtschwitz to now Cosmo.


LOL, he's so toxic he needs to dial a tin foil spam troll to be his Capt. Save-a-Fag. :lol

Menopause is tough, isn't it?

[Spurtacular]

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/069/615/556/original/9c62849593ce03bb.jpg

[Blake]

Gabtacular

[ElNono]

^ Go shill and astroturf somewhere else, moron

[RandomGuy]

derp is triggering you. Think about that.

Nah. It will be a lot of fun. Think of it as a hobby.

"what kind of stupid shit can I get Derp to buy into?"

Remember this is the guy who thinks that Democrats made fake snow to drop on Texas during the cold snap. :rollin

[Spurtacular]

^ Go shill and astroturf somewhere else, moron

All's you ever do is cry about him posting "facts" you don't like.

[Blake]

All's you ever do is lol at him posting "facts" that aren't "facts".

Fify

[RandomGuy]

All's you ever do is cry about him posting "facts" you don't like.

Already registered at one of the websites you post shit from. This will be fun to see what I can insert into your pointy little head.

[ElNono]

All's you ever do is cry about him posting "facts" you don't like.

He's not here to post any facts, he's here to astroturf.

You're too stupid to know the difference or even realize he has a history of that that goes beyond ST.

[Spurtacular]

He's not here to post any facts, he's here to astroturf.

You're too stupid to know the difference or even realize he has a history of that that goes beyond ST.

Sure, ElAzulAnon. :lol

[ElNono]

:lol ok

[RandomGuy]

All's you ever do is cry about him posting "facts" you don't like.

Gotten one of the fake things I posted on gab to get reposted already. This is fun.

Still waiting on a couple of others tho. What an interesting game to play.

I wonder how long it will be before you post some shit I made up.