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Kyle Smith
10-17-2007, 02:02 AM
Any style? I dunno. I keep arguing with this kid that the guy from Metallica is no where NEAR the best ever... He refuses to listen. Anyways, I don't know how many people have heard of him, but I definitely think Buckethead is one of the best technical guitar players out there. He can seriously play anything.

Barbarian
10-17-2007, 02:08 AM
adam jones. From TOOL

Kyle Smith
10-17-2007, 02:17 AM
adam jones. From TOOL


I don't really listen to tool much and don't know a whole lot about them. Song recommendations?

Barbarian
10-17-2007, 02:32 AM
I could list a ton of songs but from the top of my head:
Eulogy
Pushit
The Grudge
Parabola
The Patient
Wings fo Marie
Roseta Stoned
Prison Sex

If you like rock then you are missing out. Watch em live and you will become a lifetime fan. oh yeah....Adam Jones is the shit.

Slydragon
10-17-2007, 02:33 AM
Never really heard bucket head play, I seen him and thought WTF the kfc thing is stupid, wanna be slash top hat is what came to mind, and it turn me off from hearing what ever video it was I was seeing.

http://k43.pbase.com/o4/65/76265/1/64552615.w5HoymRm.IMG_2166buckethead.jpg

slayermin
10-17-2007, 02:55 AM
Metallica isn't the shit anymore but Kirk Hammett has always been a bad azz guitarist.

I like Eric Johnson, the late Diamond/Dimebag Darrell, and Andreas Kisser of Sepultura.

jman3000
10-17-2007, 04:45 AM
yo momma

Xolotl
10-17-2007, 06:22 AM
Buckethead is a great guitarist, Slash is one that comes to mind for me since I grew up in the 90s, along with Eddie Van Halen

I'm not some guitar aficionado but can somebody tell me, why is Jimi Hendrix usually thought to be a legendary guitarist? He was active publicly for only like 5 years, but hes usually considered one of the best, I would think people would look for longevity too, for example Eddie VH or even Joe Perry.

DieMrBond
10-17-2007, 07:20 AM
Jimi Hendrix (November 27, 1942 – September 18, 1970) was an American guitarist, singer and songwriter. Hendrix is considered one of the greatest and most influential guitarists in rock music history.[1] After initial success in England, he achieved worldwide fame following his 1967 performance at the Monterey Pop Festival. Later, Hendrix headlined the iconic 1969 Woodstock Festival.

Jimi Hendrix helped pioneer the technique of guitar feedback with overdriven amplifiers, incorporating into his music what was previously an undesirable sound. He built upon the innovations and influences of blues stylists such as B.B. King, Muddy Waters, Albert King, and T-Bone Walker, and derived style from rhythm and blues and soul guitarists Curtis Mayfield, Steve Cropper, and Cornell Dupree, as well as from traditional jazz. Part of Hendrix's flamboyant stage persona may have been inspired by rock pioneer Little Richard, with whom he toured as part of Richard's back-up band, "The Upsetters." Hendrix is also widely thought to be influenced by Pete Townshend of The Who, who performed in London when Hendrix started his career there in 1966. Carlos Santana has also suggested that Hendrix's music may have been influenced by his Native American heritage.[2]

From Wikipedia. Dude was amazing. Plus he played left handed!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_hendrix

Rolling Stones top 100 guitarists of all time (my favourites in bold)
The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time
1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead (Surely paranoid android alone gets them higher than this?
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd (Should be ranked much higher)
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC (Come on, they are AUS, they are compulsory australian listening!)
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 07:37 AM
I could list a ton of songs but from the top of my head:
Eulogy
Pushit
The Grudge
Parabola
The Patient
Wings fo Marie
Roseta Stoned
Prison Sex

If you like rock then you are missing out. Watch em live and you will become a lifetime fan. oh yeah....Adam Jones is the shit.

Dude, you forgot Schism.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 07:39 AM
Eric Clapton is probably the best guitarist in the world.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 07:42 AM
Rolling Stones top 100 guitarists of all time (my favourites in bold)
The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time
1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead (Surely paranoid android alone gets them higher than this?
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd (Should be ranked much higher)
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC (Come on, they are AUS, they are compulsory australian listening!)
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden


A list like this without Slash of Guns N' Roses (and now Velvet Revolver) is just complete and utter bullshit.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 07:43 AM
And, why is so much made about Jimmy playing left handed???

He was a lefty.
It's not like he was right handed man who decided to play lefty one day.

101A
10-17-2007, 08:08 AM
The Stone's list is strange.

Joan Jett???

Where the &*^$! is Stevie R. Vaughn???

I've always liked the work of Ric Emmett (both during, and since, Triumph); chops and style.

And I love a good shredder as much as the next guy (or even more), but for pure mastery of the instrument, Grant Geisman is pretty tough to beat.

Thunder Dan
10-17-2007, 08:12 AM
Hendrix is probably the best. I like listening to Mike McCready from Pearl Jam myself, but it's a personal preference of mine, I wouldn't say he is the best

Soul_Patch
10-17-2007, 08:21 AM
1. Jimmy Hendrix
2. Stevie Ray Vaughn
3. Eric Clapton
4. Jimmy Page
5. John Squire

DarkReign
10-17-2007, 08:25 AM
And, why is so much made about Jimmy playing left handed???

He was a lefty.
It's not like he was right handed man who decided to play lefty one day.

He was left hander playing on a right handed guitar. Its just mystique. Hendrix was a mainstream artist that blended jazz, soul and rock....he wasnt the first to do it, but he was the first to sell it as wide and far as he did. And if youve ever seen a dvd/vhs of some of his concerts, you wouldnt be questioning his unquestionable greatness. Or better yet, buy "Are You Experienced?"...my personal favorite, "Remember" and "Are You Experienced?"

Oh, remember the mocking bird, my baby bun
He used to sing for his supper, baby
Yes he used to sing for his supper, babe
He used to sing so sweet
Since my baby left me he aint sang for two long days


So tell me...are you experienced?
Have you ever been experienced?!
Well, I have.

Its the combination of sound that comes from his guitar that wasnt heard of during his time (and not since either). When all his contemporaries (namely Clapton) fawned all over him, you know something is special.

Kirk Hammit is an excellent guitarist, he should be he was schooled by Steve Vai. Very very technical.

EVH ranks way up there as well, I dont like Van Halen at all (neither Roth or Haggar), but Eddie is a Messiah on strings.

For educational purposes, my brother used to listen to some European dude named (im about to look it up on Google) Ynvai Malmstein? gimme a sec...whoa, way wrong on the spelling...Yngve Johann Malmsten (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_IYe5JTZ4&mode=related&search=), hes basically a concert guitarist in the classical sense...watch the link (and follow up on the Related column). Hes fucking awesome and youve never heard of him.

This is a subjective argument. I dont really have a personal favorite. I just appreciated excellent musicians no matter the genre. Which is why I cant respect rap. There isnt a musician to be found on 90% of the shit. I give credit to the people who organize the "beat" or "track" as it were, but even they cant play an instrument. Therefore, theyre not musicians, and if youre not a musician, youre not making music.

Soul_Patch
10-17-2007, 08:31 AM
I would venture to guess many of the "best guitarists in the world" are unknown.


I have a friend who plays guitar and ive honestly never heard anything like it, its amazing...and he has no formal training.

leemajors
10-17-2007, 08:35 AM
Never really heard bucket head play, I seen him and thought WTF the kfc thing is stupid, wanna be slash top hat is what came to mind, and it turn me off from hearing what ever video it was I was seeing.

http://k43.pbase.com/o4/65/76265/1/64552615.w5HoymRm.IMG_2166buckethead.jpg
that's not him. he doesn't wear the new style bucket.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Buckethead%2C_2006.jpg/220px-Buckethead%2C_2006.jpg

http://cache.kotaku.com/gaming/buckethead.jpg

imo he is the best, and his outfit kicks ass.

Soul_Patch
10-17-2007, 08:38 AM
never even heard of the dude with the KFC bucket on his head...

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 08:43 AM
never even heard of the dude with the KFC bucket on his head...

He took over for Slash on the Axl-led Guns N' Roses.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 08:46 AM
He was left hander playing on a right handed guitar. Its just mystique. Hendrix was a mainstream artist that blended jazz, soul and rock....he wasnt the first to do it, but he was the first to sell it as wide and far as he did. And if youve ever seen a dvd/vhs of some of his concerts, you wouldnt be questioning his unquestionable greatness. Or better yet, buy "Are You Experienced?"...my personal favorite, "Remember" and "Are You Experienced?"


I'm not questioning his greatness.

I have everyone of his albums and have seen his concerts.

What I was questioning was the fact that people say that he's great because he played left handed. That's a pretty stupid rationale.

He was great and, had he lived longer, could have been even greater than what he was. However, I still think Clapton is a better guitarist.

Buy/download the album "From The Cradle . . ." and it will blow you away.

leemajors
10-17-2007, 08:46 AM
He took over for Slash on the Axl-led Guns N' Roses.
he quit years ago since axl never wanted to finish an album, which is good. he's been releasing at least 4-5 albums a year since 1992. predictably, axl threw him under the bus when he left. here's a funny quote from Ozzy about him:


I tried out that Buckethead guy. I met with him and asked him to work with me but only if he got rid of the fucking bucket. So I came back a bit later and he's wearing this green fucking Martian shit thing! I said, 'Look, just be yourself'. He told me his name was Brian, so I said that's what I'd call him. He says, 'No one calls me Brian except my mother'. So I said, 'Pretend I'm your mum then!'. I haven't even got out of the room and I'm already playing fucking mind games with the guy. What happens if one day he's gone and there's a note saying, 'I've been beamed up'? Don't get me wrong, he's a great player. He plays like a motherfucker!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=TMu4_wJlTqs

CuckingFunt
10-17-2007, 08:58 AM
. . .

43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend

. . .
Les Paul should be way higher on this list. Some of his instrumental stuff from the 50's is just fucking insane.

Jimcs50
10-17-2007, 08:59 AM
Stevie Ray needs to be way up on that list.

He is so good that when the Rolling Stones first heard him play, they hired him to play at a party they were throwing later that month. David Bowie attended that party and hired him on the spot to play guitar on his upcoming record Let's Dance.....and the rest is history. Hard to believe he has been gone this long already. Interesting that Stevie took Eric Clapton's seat on that helicopter at the last minute, after the concert they were both playing at.

fatsack
10-17-2007, 09:04 AM
Phil Keaggy

lock this thread.

samikeyp
10-17-2007, 09:04 AM
My top 10:

1. Jimi
2. Clapton
3. Eddie Van Halen
4. Stevie Ray
5. Jimmy Page
6. Steve Vai
7. B.B King
8. Carlos Santana
9. George Harrison
10. Dick Dale

Soul_Patch
10-17-2007, 09:06 AM
SRV was simply amazing. My friends own a studio up in austin that my friend Jay's step dad used to play and record in back in the early austin music days. He used to be fairly good friends with Stevie back then. We were going through old R2R tapes we found in a box, and some of them i believe are old stuff with double trouble and SRV jaming out and getting high / drunk in the studio...its hard to be sure, but sure as fuck sounds like him talking and playing.

CuckingFunt
10-17-2007, 09:12 AM
My top 10:

1. Jimi
2. Clapton
3. Eddie Van Halen
4. Stevie Ray
5. Jimmy Page
6. Steve Vai
7. B.B King
8. Carlos Santana
9. George Harrison
10. Dick DaleI like this list.

Mine would also include Link Wray and Les Paul, though I don't know who I'd swap out to put them there.

leemajors
10-17-2007, 09:27 AM
oh yeah. shawn lane. that man could play.

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 10:10 AM
My bests: Eric Clapton
SRV
Mark Knopfler
Carlos Santana
are we talking rock guitarists? Because it's strange that Chet Atkins is not mentioned by anyone. Also I always find it wierd that George Harrison is considered a great guitarist.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 10:15 AM
Interesting that Stevie took Eric Clapton's seat on that helicopter at the last minute, after the concert they were both playing at.

Yea, imagine if it had been the other way around??

Damn.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 10:17 AM
Because it's strange that Chet Atkins is not mentioned by anyone. Also I always find it wierd that George Harrison is considered a great guitarist.

Have you ever heard "While My Guitar Gently Sleeps"?

George Harrison was a great guitarist.

Chet Atkins is also a pretty damned good guitarist.
I mentioned last week that I heard his guitar cover of "Imagine" and I was blown away.

Solid D
10-17-2007, 10:19 AM
That top 100 list is missing some great ones. Peter Frampton isn't even on the list and Nokie Edwards isn't either. Nokie (Ventures) didn't play blues or classic rock, but he was a pioneer and was an inspiration to a lot of the great ones. You give Clapton or Frampton or Page an opportunity to do a jam session with Edwards and they all would probably jump in on that action.

Jimcs50
10-17-2007, 10:20 AM
Also I always find it wierd that George Harrison is considered a great guitarist.


Why is that? He is one of the best acoustic guitar players that I have ever heard. I do not think they are taking about electric guitar only, right?

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 10:21 AM
Have you ever heard "While My Guitar Gently Sleeps"?

George Harrison was a great guitarist.


Well yea, but isn't that the ONLY song he was great at?

ShoogarBear
10-17-2007, 10:21 AM
"Best Rock Guitarist" != "Best Guitarist"

Sincerely,

Wes Montgomery
George Benson
Al Di Meola
Django Reinhardt

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 10:24 AM
Well yea, but isn't that the ONLY song he was great at?

You really need to hear the rest of his music.

Solid D
10-17-2007, 10:24 AM
I though of a couple of others, but ShoogarBear beat me to it on Benson.

George Benson and Joe Walsh.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 10:24 AM
"Best Rock Guitarist" != "Best Guitarist"

Sincerely,

Wes Montgomery
George Benson
Al Di Meola
Django Reinhardt

Forgot all about Django Reinhardt.

Jimcs50
10-17-2007, 10:25 AM
That top 100 list is missing some great ones. Peter Frampton isn't even on the list and Nokie Edwards isn't either. Nokie (Ventures) didn't play blues or classic rock, but he was a pioneer and was an inspiration to a lot of the great ones. You give Clapton or Frampton or Page an opportunity to do a jam session with Edwards and they all would probably jump in on that action.

I agree, Frampton's work when he was with Humble Pie is right up there with most of the greatest ever.

Melmart1
10-17-2007, 10:25 AM
Have you ever heard "While My Guitar Gently Sleeps"?

George Harrison was a great guitarist.

Chet Atkins is also a pretty damned good guitarist.
I mentioned last week that I heard his guitar cover of "Imagine" and I was blown away.
It's gently WEEPS :madrun

And even though John Lennon is my favorite Beatle, that is probably my favorite Beatles song, even if it was written by Harrison and not Lennon/McCartney.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 10:25 AM
I though of a couple of others, but ShoogarBear beat me to it on Benson.

George Benson and Joe Walsh.

Joe Walsh should DEFINITELY be up there!!

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 10:26 AM
It's gently WEEPS :madrun

And even though John Lennon is my favorite Beatle, that is probably my favorite Beatles song, even if it was written by Harrison and not Lennon/McCartney.

LOL!!!

Shit, that's what you get for typing fast in between work projects.

I'm disappointed in my self.

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 10:27 AM
Why is that? He is one of the best acoustic guitar players that I have ever heard. I do not think they are taking about electric guitar only, right?
Sorry but I just can't consider any of the Beatles great musicians; vocalists,maybe and poets, yes. I like Beatles music very much.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 10:31 AM
Sorry but I just can't consider any of the Beatles great musicians; vocalists,maybe and poets, yes. I like Beatles music very much.

WHAT THE HELL????

They were quite possibly the greatest musicians ever!!!
They revolutionized music as it was known.

They had a range that went from classic R&B Rock to Country to Psychedelic to Classical . . .

Melmart1
10-17-2007, 10:32 AM
Sorry but I just can't consider any of the Beatles great musicians; vocalists,maybe and poets, yes. I like Beatles music very much.
I would agree if we were saying that Ringo was one of the best drummers of all time or something. But I think Harrison was highly underrated as a guitarist. I wouldn't have him in my top 10 or anything, but mostly because it is already a crowded list. But he is one of the greats, imho.

But admittedly, most of the music the Beatles played didn't exactly give him a platform to showcase his abilities, like a lot of the guys on the list who play solos every song. His abilities are much more subtly presented, but still high up there nonetheless. Just my .02.

Jimcs50
10-17-2007, 10:34 AM
Sorry but I just can't consider any of the Beatles great musicians; vocalists,maybe and poets, yes. I like Beatles music very much.

OMG!

John, and Paul could play numerous instruments including but not limited to piano, bass, lead guitar, sitar, and steel guitar and do them all very well...to say they are not good muscians to ludicrous.

ORION
10-17-2007, 10:35 AM
Randy Rhodes
Yngwie
Steve Vai
Joe Satriani
Dimebag
Stevie Ray

Jimcs50
10-17-2007, 10:36 AM
I would agree if we were saying that Ringo was one of the best drummers of all time or something. But I think Harrison was highly underrated as a guitarist. I wouldn't have him in my top 10 or anything, but mostly because it is already a crowded list. But he is one of the greats, imho.

But admittedly, most of the music the Beatles played didn't exactly give him a platform to showcase his abilities, like a lot of the guys on the list who play solos every song. His abilities are much more subtly presented, but still high up there nonetheless. Just my .02.

BTW, Ringo was one of the greatest percussionists ever...no BS.

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 10:36 AM
WHAT THE HELL????

They were quite possibly the greatest musicians ever!!!
They revolutionized music as it was known.

They had a range that went from classic R&B Rock to Country to Psychedelic to Classical . . .
No they were the greatest "stylists" of music ever. Yes they revolutionized music but that is just as much a product of the times as of them. Hey I love the Beatles and George Harrison is my favorite Beatle, I've heard most if not all his recorded music. My opinion is that the Beatles' musical talent peaked with "Beatles For Sale" 1964, after that their lyrics and their style ruled.

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 10:38 AM
BTW, Ringo was one of the greatest percussionists ever...no BS.
:dizzy

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 10:41 AM
Before I go I just wanted to mention Skunk Baxter and Denny Dias as the greatest STUDIO guitarists!!!! :toast

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 10:41 AM
No they were the greatest "stylists" of music ever. Yes they revolutionized music but that is just as much a product of the times as of them. Hey I love the Beatles and George Harrison is my favorite Beatle, I've heard most if not all his recorded music. My opinion is that the Beatles' musical talent peaked with "Beatles For Sale" 1964, after that their lyrics and their style ruled.

This just makes no sense at all.

To say that they were "stylists" borders on insanity. They were pure musicians. Hundreds of bands refer to them as being their inspiration.

As for the albums after "Beatles For Sale", you are definitely insane. "Sgt. Pepper's" and "The White Album" are probably the greatest albums in the history of music.

"The White Album" especially shows their range and musicianship.

Solid D
10-17-2007, 10:42 AM
I agree, Frampton's work when he was with Humble Pie is right up there with most of the greatest ever.

I'd actually put Frampton above Duane Allman (on that Top 100 list) and I have always been a big Allman Brothers Band fan. Duane had a lot of blues and soul but some of his slide work wasn't technically pleasing to the ears like Peter is. Frampton got even better after he left Humble Pie. Eric Johnson is top shelf, as was Stevie Ray. BB King is the best bluesman, bar none.

Soul_Patch
10-17-2007, 10:43 AM
The beatles played very simple music for the most part. They had great style and song writing abilities, some of their productions were insanely over the top and well put together, but none were overly technical in the music, it was pretty straight forward. I am not saying they probably were not fantastic musicians, they did it for a living, and did it a lot...but beatles music is very simple, but great! that is what makes it great in my opinion!

Soul_Patch
10-17-2007, 10:45 AM
Alot of musicians also state that the sex pistols were an inspiration to their music, but anyone with half a brain wouldnt consider the sex pistols great musicsians, they were good at putting together a song, and delivering it!

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 11:00 AM
The beatles played very simple music for the most part. They had great style and song writing abilities, some of their productions were insanely over the top and well put together, but none were overly technical in the music, it was pretty straight forward. I am not saying they probably were not fantastic musicians, they did it for a living, and did it a lot...but beatles music is very simple, but great! that is what makes it great in my opinion!
Than you very much :toast

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 11:03 AM
This just makes no sense at all.

To say that they were "stylists" borders on insanity. They were pure musicians. Hundreds of bands refer to them as being their inspiration.

As for the albums after "Beatles For Sale", you are definitely insane. "Sgt. Pepper's" and "The White Album" are probably the greatest albums in the history of music.

"The White Album" especially shows their range and musicianship.
Hey why the personal attack? I thought we were having a lively discussion of our opinions. I don't think you're insane, you just have a different opinion!

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 11:05 AM
Hey why the personal attack? I thought we were having a lively discussion of our opinions. I don't think you're insane, you just have a different opinion!

It's not a personal attack.

But, I do think it's insane.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 11:06 AM
The beatles played very simple music for the most part. They had great style and song writing abilities, some of their productions were insanely over the top and well put together, but none were overly technical in the music, it was pretty straight forward. I am not saying they probably were not fantastic musicians, they did it for a living, and did it a lot...but beatles music is very simple, but great! that is what makes it great in my opinion!

Their music is not simple at all.

They employed several techniques in their music, both classical and cutting edge. They expiremented and set trends. I don't see how their music is "simple", especially from Sgt. Pepper's and on.

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 11:07 AM
It's not a personal attack.

But, I do think it's insane.
Sorry I took "you are definitely insane" personal! :lol

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 11:08 AM
Sorry I took "you are definitely insane" personal! :lol

No, not personal at all.
But, you have brilliant flashes of insanity.

:)

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 11:12 AM
No, not personal at all.
But, you have brilliant flashes of insanity.

:)
Thank you, so do you! :toast

tlongII
10-17-2007, 11:16 AM
That list might work for best "rock" guitarist ever. However, the best guitarists ever have their roots in jazz. There are several jazz guitarists that are better than anybody on that list.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 11:16 AM
Thank you, so do you! :toast

:lol

JMarkJohns
10-17-2007, 11:30 AM
Phil Keaggy

lock this thread.

Reporter: "So Eric, how does it feel to be the best guitar player in the world?"
Clapton: "I wouldn't know, you'd have to ask Phil Keaggy"

:tu

OK, the above is the legand of Phil Keaggy, but his talents speak for themselves.

A personal favorite of mine is Jerry Cantrell. Very versatile. Thrash, punk, Wah-Wah, bendy, melodic... great, great guitarist.

Another would be Todd Whitener, formerly of Days Of The New... Anyone that can rock a steel-stringed acoustic guitar with the ferocity of thrash metal and the melody of a classical guitarist deserves recognition. His Tantric stuff not withstanding. That stuff was too stunted. Didn't show off his versatility. Crappy melodic metal in the from of Staind.

whottt
10-17-2007, 11:37 AM
Jimi Hendrix (November 27, 1942 – September 18, 1970) was an American guitarist, singer and songwriter. Hendrix is considered one of the greatest and most influential guitarists in rock music history.[1] After initial success in England, he achieved worldwide fame following his 1967 performance at the Monterey Pop Festival. Later, Hendrix headlined the iconic 1969 Woodstock Festival.

Jimi Hendrix helped pioneer the technique of guitar feedback with overdriven amplifiers, incorporating into his music what was previously an undesirable sound. He built upon the innovations and influences of blues stylists such as B.B. King, Muddy Waters, Albert King, and T-Bone Walker, and derived style from rhythm and blues and soul guitarists Curtis Mayfield, Steve Cropper, and Cornell Dupree, as well as from traditional jazz. Part of Hendrix's flamboyant stage persona may have been inspired by rock pioneer Little Richard, with whom he toured as part of Richard's back-up band, "The Upsetters." Hendrix is also widely thought to be influenced by Pete Townshend of The Who, who performed in London when Hendrix started his career there in 1966. Carlos Santana has also suggested that Hendrix's music may have been influenced by his Native American heritage.[2]

From Wikipedia. Dude was amazing. Plus he played left handed!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_hendrix

Rolling Stones top 100 guitarists of all time (my favourites in bold)
The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time
1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead (Surely paranoid android alone gets them higher than this?
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd (Should be ranked much higher)
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC (Come on, they are AUS, they are compulsory australian listening!)
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden



No Ted Nugent?

Mark Knopfler should be about 23 places higher...

I challenge you to go find any guitarist on that list and ask them to play any of Mark Knopfler's well known songs...

And watch them get their ass kicked.


And as always...Prince got dissed, yet again.

whottt
10-17-2007, 11:41 AM
I'd actually put Frampton above Duane Allman (on that Top 100 list) and I have always been a big Allman Brothers Band fan. Duane had a lot of blues and soul but some of his slide work wasn't technically pleasing to the ears like Peter is. Frampton got even better after he left Humble Pie. Eric Johnson is top shelf, as was Stevie Ray. BB King is the best bluesman, bar none.


Duane Allman is always ranked so high on these lists for the same reason Reggie Lewis has his jersey retired....


Don't get me wrong...he was fantastic, but he's not #2 all time....if only because of his limited body of work.


Besides...all you gotta do is listen to Derek and the Dominoes and you can hear Clapton was his match...

JMarkJohns
10-17-2007, 11:43 AM
And Kurt Cobain wasn't that good of a guitarist. He made some sick punk melodies, but all in all, I'd say he doesn't belong in the top-75 of all time.

Love Nirvana. Huge fan. But Cobain was an everyman. His songs were quite simple to play. When I learned the guitar, within a year I could play Nevermind almost entirely.

Kentu3
10-17-2007, 11:50 AM
I registered for this site just to add my 2cents.

How could they leave off ACE FREHLEY :wtf

Sure he wore makeup and platform boots for 20 years,
but the dude was a total wiz that Kicked major ass with the Axe.

Damn shame that alcohol and drugs stifled his creativity, but he defiantly
should be on that list

whottt
10-17-2007, 11:50 AM
And Kurt Cobain wasn't that good of a guitarist. He made some sick punk melodies, but all in all, I'd say he doesn't belong in the top-75 of all time.

Love Nirvana. Huge fan. But Cobain was an everyman. His songs were quite simple to play. When I learned the guitar, within a year I could play Nevermind almost entirely.



I agree with a lot of what you said there...but I wouldn't say simplicity is a negative...some of the best riffs ever are some of the most simplistic.


That said...I agree, Cobain doesn't belong on any greatest guitarists of all time lists.

whottt
10-17-2007, 11:54 AM
No Michael Schenker on that list?

Randy Rhoads in the bottom 15?

Jimcs50
10-17-2007, 11:57 AM
That list might work for best "rock" guitarist ever. However, the best guitarists ever have their roots in jazz. There are several jazz guitarists that are better than anybody on that list.

Enter Stanley Jordan.....He is incredible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ68hjB-RBo&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHZTyfKseZE&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baDM3_6w8-E&mode=related&search=

JMarkJohns
10-17-2007, 11:57 AM
I agree with a lot of what you said there...but I wouldn't say simplicity is a negative...some of the best riffs ever are some of the most simplistic.


That said...I agree, Cobain doesn't belong on any greatest guitarists of all time lists.

Hey, I'm not bashing. I said his melodic punk riffs were sick. They defined rock music for the 90's. I love simplicity. I'd much rather listen to Nirvana than Yes or Rush. I like the latter, but it can become overwelming, and not in a good way.

I was merely stating that his easy chord progressions, while very good and very catchy, aren't something I'd say is "best of" quality. Not for a guitar player.

Cantrell is underrated. I never even saw his name on the list. Listen to MUSIC BANK, then tell me he doesn't deserve a spot in the top-100. I'd say top-50.

leemajors
10-17-2007, 12:03 PM
Duane Allman is always ranked so high on these lists for the same reason Reggie Lewis has his jersey retired....


Don't get me wrong...he was fantastic, but he's not #2 all time....if only because of his limited body of work.


Besides...all you gotta do is listen to Derek and the Dominoes and you can hear Clapton was his match...
rolling stone is crap anyway.

Barbarian
10-17-2007, 12:05 PM
http://www.playbackstl.com/images/stories/films/tenacious.jpg

Jimcs50
10-17-2007, 12:11 PM
Frank Zappa needs to move up some IMO as well.

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 12:18 PM
[QUOTE=Kentu3]I registered for this site just to add my 2cents {/QUOTE]
Welcome!! Now I'm waiting for someone to start the "Greatest Cellist" thread, I'll argue that all night! :p:

Fillmoe
10-17-2007, 12:23 PM
Jimi or Pete

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 12:30 PM
[QUOTE=Kentu3]I registered for this site just to add my 2cents {/QUOTE]
Welcome!! Now I'm waiting for someone to start the "Greatest Cellist" thread, I'll argue that all night! :p:

Yo-Yo Ma.

'Nuff said.

CuckingFunt
10-17-2007, 12:35 PM
Nokie Edwards
Django Reinhardt I knew if I kept reading this thread I'd be reminded of a whole bunch more to add to my list.

EDIT:


Mark Knopfler
Also remembered Billy Zoom. Maybe not one of the greatest of all time, but he's always been one of my personal favorites.

CuckingFunt
10-17-2007, 12:38 PM
And even though John Lennon is my favorite Beatle, that is probably my favorite Beatles song, even if it was written by Harrison and not Lennon/McCartney.

George Harrison wrote some of my favorite Beatles songs. I love "Only a Northern Song."

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 12:45 PM
Yo-Yo Ma.

'Nuff said.
:madrun What no Kira Kratzoff or Kirill Timofejeff?! :lol

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 01:21 PM
:madrun What no Kira Kratzoff or Kirill Timofejeff?! :lol

You're insane!!
(again)

Jacqueline du Pre, William Pleeth, and Mstislav Rostropovich rank way above Kratzoff or Timofejeff.

But, I still rank Ma above them all because of his range.
Have you heard "Apalachia Walz" or "Hush" (his collaboration with Bobby McFerin)?

He's simply amazing.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 01:22 PM
What about the greatest violinist?

(don't use Itzak Perlman . . . that's too easy)

Soul_Patch
10-17-2007, 01:27 PM
What about the greatest violinist?

Definately Charlie Daniels

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 01:38 PM
Definately Charlie Daniels

He played the fiddle.

tlongII
10-17-2007, 01:39 PM
What about the greatest violinist?

(don't use Itzak Perlman . . . that's too easy)

Jean Luc Ponty

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 01:53 PM
You're insane!!
(again)

Jacqueline du Pre, William Pleeth, and Mstislav Rostropovich rank way above Kratzoff or Timofejeff.

But, I still rank Ma above them all because of his range.
Have you heard "Apalachia Walz" or "Hush" (his collaboration with Bobby McFerin)?

He's simply amazing.
Well you are absolutely right! I just mentioned those other 2 guys because my daughter and I met them yesterday and she thought they were "hot" :lol (she's 11 and taking cello lessons)

mrsmaalox
10-17-2007, 01:57 PM
What about the greatest violinist?

(don't use Itzak Perlman . . . that's too easy)
Okay I'll go with Isaac Stern, teacher of Itzak Perlman and Yo Yo Ma

cornbread
10-17-2007, 02:02 PM
No Michael Schenker on that list?

Randy Rhoads in the bottom 15?
And 13 spots ahead of Randy sits Joni Mitchell. That list is the worst steaming pile of crap I've ever seen.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 02:02 PM
Okay I'll go with Isaac Stern, teacher of Itzak Perlman and Yo Yo Ma

Damn good choice.

E20
10-17-2007, 02:04 PM
Where the fuck is Joe Satriani?

to21
10-17-2007, 02:10 PM
This dude:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwBXmHppCMo

The Delivery Boy
10-17-2007, 02:34 PM
He played the fiddle.



A violin is a fiddle; a fiddle is a violin. There are no differentiating features period. The only true reason you'd call one instrument a violin and the other a fiddle is the approach...someone who plays fiddle tunes, a fiddler, will address their violin as a fiddle.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 02:56 PM
A violin is a fiddle; a fiddle is a violin. There are no differentiating features period. The only true reason you'd call one instrument a violin and the other a fiddle is the approach...someone who plays fiddle tunes, a fiddler, will address their violin as a fiddle.

Not true.
The fiddle is smaller and more narrow.

It produces a different sound from a violin, which is larger and more broad. The viola also resembles a violin in shape, but is much larger and broader producing a deeper, more somber sound.

Saying that a fiddle and a violin are the same is like saying that the Cello and the Double Bass are the same.

And, that's simpy not true.

Condemned 2 HelLA
10-17-2007, 02:56 PM
Rolling Stones top 100 guitarists of all time (allegedly)
The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time
1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead (Surely paranoid android alone gets them higher than this?
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd (Should be ranked much higher)
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC (Come on, they are AUS, they are compulsory australian listening!)
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

This list is garbage.
The fact that untalented, overrated fucks like Thurston Moore and Jack White are high on the list, greats like Tony Iommi and Eddie Van Halen are so low down on the list and guys like Ted Nugent and Michael Schenker were completely left off or the list just underscores that fact.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 03:00 PM
This list is garbage.
The fact that untalented, overrated fucks like Thurston Moore and Jack White are high on the list, greats like Tony Iommi and Eddie Van Halen are so low down on the list and guys like Ted Nugent and Michael Schenker were completely left off or the list just underscores that fact.

I disagree with you saying that Jack White is underrated and untalented. However, I agree that Tony Iommi and Eddie Van Halen should be so much higher on that list.

Ted Nugent, though, I don't see as being especially talented. I'll take Jack White over him any day.

leemajors
10-17-2007, 03:32 PM
sweaty teddy would blow jack white off the stage. he's a jackass, but he can play.

Soul_Patch
10-17-2007, 03:34 PM
Wesley Willis blows all these dudes out of the water!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IliRi29maOw

mookie2001
10-17-2007, 04:40 PM
i dont think we've ever had a thread like this in the club

pink floyd sucks

Cant_Be_Faded
10-17-2007, 05:55 PM
Kurt Cobain was so good that any 14 year old picking up a guitar for the first time can learn to play ALL nirvana songs within one month.

Leetonidas
10-17-2007, 05:59 PM
This guy:

http://www.t1music.com/assets/images/Satriani.JPG

Guru of Nothing
10-17-2007, 06:03 PM
Any list that includes Neil Young is pretty worthless.

LOL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XBJeX0UyZ0)

DieMrBond
10-17-2007, 07:18 PM
I apologise for the list, it was late at night here, and i just did a quick google search for 'top 100' guitar players and the first one that came up said 'Rolling Stone Magazine', i said cool - they know a little about music...

Should have looked at it a bit harder.

duncan228
10-17-2007, 07:35 PM
Glad to see Joe Satriani get mentioned, he's incredible.
Where's Robin Trower?

Others I like that have been mentioned...Duane Allman, died so young, I think his best work was still to come.
Mark Knopfler, all of his work, but "The Princess Bride" soundtrack is especially beautiful.
Carlos Santana, heart, just full of heart.

Brian May (from Queen.)
Mike Campbell (Tom Petty), may not be the best but he's got sweet licks.
Johnny Winter could play.

Fun thread...I'll come back as I think of more.

Leetonidas
10-17-2007, 07:51 PM
This guy is pretty good too hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifaeBZK_xM

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 08:30 PM
Glad to see Joe Satriani get mentioned, he's incredible.
Where's Robin Trower?

Others I like that have been mentioned...Duane Allman, died so young, I think his best work was still to come.
Mark Knopfler, all of his work, but "The Princess Bride" soundtrack is especially beautiful.
Carlos Santana, heart, just full of heart.

Brian May (from Queen.)
Mike Campbell (Tom Petty), may not be the best but he's got sweet licks.
Johnny Winter could play.

Fun thread...I'll come back as I think of more.

I think Mike Campbell is pretty damned underrated because of the huge shadow that Tom Petty casts.

peewee's lovechild
10-17-2007, 08:31 PM
pink floyd sucks

You deserve to be slow roasted on an open fire spit for this statement.

David Gilmour is a guitar god.

leemajors
10-17-2007, 11:03 PM
You deserve to be slow roasted on an open fire spit for this statement.

David Gilmour is a guitar god.
david gilmour sucks.

AlamoSpursFan
10-17-2007, 11:27 PM
Didn't read the whole thread, because I think we've done this a time or 12, but here are some of my personal favorites:

1. Alex Lifeson
2. David Abeyta
3. Eddie Van Halen
4. Dave Murray
5. George Lynch

Leetonidas
10-17-2007, 11:54 PM
Also, Alexi Laiho is fucking badass.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:38 AM
Okay. Wow. Rofl. *Note to self* Never leave a thread on spurstalk alone for more than a couple minutes.


K. Time to tackle some of your responses :D

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:39 AM
I could list a ton of songs but from the top of my head:
Eulogy
Pushit
The Grudge
Parabola
The Patient
Wings fo Marie
Roseta Stoned
Prison Sex

If you like rock then you are missing out. Watch em live and you will become a lifetime fan. oh yeah....Adam Jones is the shit.


Lets start with mr. Evilroy. Thanks for the songs, I'll go look some of them up. I keep hearing that I'm missing out lol

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:40 AM
Jimi Hendrix (November 27, 1942 – September 18, 1970) was an American guitarist, singer and songwriter. Hendrix is considered one of the greatest and most influential guitarists in rock music history.[1] After initial success in England, he achieved worldwide fame following his 1967 performance at the Monterey Pop Festival. Later, Hendrix headlined the iconic 1969 Woodstock Festival.

Jimi Hendrix helped pioneer the technique of guitar feedback with overdriven amplifiers, incorporating into his music what was previously an undesirable sound. He built upon the innovations and influences of blues stylists such as B.B. King, Muddy Waters, Albert King, and T-Bone Walker, and derived style from rhythm and blues and soul guitarists Curtis Mayfield, Steve Cropper, and Cornell Dupree, as well as from traditional jazz. Part of Hendrix's flamboyant stage persona may have been inspired by rock pioneer Little Richard, with whom he toured as part of Richard's back-up band, "The Upsetters." Hendrix is also widely thought to be influenced by Pete Townshend of The Who, who performed in London when Hendrix started his career there in 1966. Carlos Santana has also suggested that Hendrix's music may have been influenced by his Native American heritage.[2]

From Wikipedia. Dude was amazing. Plus he played left handed!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_hendrix

Rolling Stones top 100 guitarists of all time (my favourites in bold)
The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time
1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead (Surely paranoid android alone gets them higher than this?
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd (Should be ranked much higher)
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC (Come on, they are AUS, they are compulsory australian listening!)
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden



Lol the bucket isn't even on the list! Seriously, look him up on youtube or something. Watch jordan, the whole song. He's phenomenal.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:41 AM
Never really heard bucket head play, I seen him and thought WTF the kfc thing is stupid, wanna be slash top hat is what came to mind, and it turn me off from hearing what ever video it was I was seeing.

http://k43.pbase.com/o4/65/76265/1/64552615.w5HoymRm.IMG_2166buckethead.jpg



Thats not even him lol.


There's supposedly a story as to why he wears the bucket and the mask, I won't bore you with it. And he wore the bucket before he was in GNR





idk if i'm repeating stuff ppl have arleady said lol, i'm just responding to the posts as i see 'em

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:42 AM
Buckethead is a great guitarist, Slash is one that comes to mind for me since I grew up in the 90s, along with Eddie Van Halen

I'm not some guitar aficionado but can somebody tell me, why is Jimi Hendrix usually thought to be a legendary guitarist? He was active publicly for only like 5 years, but hes usually considered one of the best, I would think people would look for longevity too, for example Eddie VH or even Joe Perry.


I know you're probably sick of hearing this, but Eddie is really only great a tapping. Buckethead can honestly do it all, lol

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:43 AM
And, why is so much made about Jimmy playing left handed???

He was a lefty.
It's not like he was right handed man who decided to play lefty one day.


He started out using a RIGHT handed guitar, but held it left handed.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:44 AM
The Stone's list is strange.

Joan Jett???

Where the &*^$! is Stevie R. Vaughn???

I've always liked the work of Ric Emmett (both during, and since, Triumph); chops and style.

And I love a good shredder as much as the next guy (or even more), but for pure mastery of the instrument, Grant Geisman is pretty tough to beat.


Yeah I've never really agreed with their guitar list.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:46 AM
Have you ever heard "While My Guitar Gently Sleeps"?

George Harrison was a great guitarist.

Chet Atkins is also a pretty damned good guitarist.
I mentioned last week that I heard his guitar cover of "Imagine" and I was blown away.


Lol clapton played the guitar on while my guitar gently sleeps :P

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:47 AM
Why is that? He is one of the best acoustic guitar players that I have ever heard. I do not think they are taking about electric guitar only, right?


Yeah, no. Any kinda guitar. Classical, flamenco, plectrum, anything else you can think of lol.



I dunno though, I've never really thought of georgy has a great guitarist.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:48 AM
Sorry but I just can't consider any of the Beatles great musicians; vocalists,maybe and poets, yes. I like Beatles music very much.


I completely agree, and i'm one of the biggest beatles fans out there. I give ringo credit for being able to adjust to all the different types of music lennon and mccartney were throwing at him though.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:50 AM
http://www.playbackstl.com/images/stories/films/tenacious.jpg



Agreed.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:52 AM
He played the fiddle.


You're a fiddle. It's the same thing.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:54 AM
And Idk who it was that said jack white is overrated needs to come over here so i can eat their soul. Jack white is so underrated. We never give him the credit he deserves a guitarist.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:54 AM
I apologise for the list, it was late at night here, and i just did a quick google search for 'top 100' guitar players and the first one that came up said 'Rolling Stone Magazine', i said cool - they know a little about music...

Should have looked at it a bit harder.



:lol

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 01:55 AM
Alright I'm done now. lol. I I'll try and check back a bit more often. I love talking about this stuff and no one ever wants to!

Condemned 2 HelLA
10-18-2007, 02:00 AM
And Idk who it was that said jack white is overrated needs to come over here so i can eat their soul. Jack white is so underrated. We never give him the credit he deserves a guitarist.

I'm right here.
Aren't you the same person who had that stupid System of a Down thread in the Troll forum a while back?
That right there tells me all I need to know.
Look at that list and tell me that there aren't countless guitarists who could buy and sell ol' Jack on their WORST days, and I'll know for sure that you don't have the slightest shred of a clue of which you speak.

AlamoSpursFan
10-18-2007, 02:01 AM
Lol clapton played the guitar on while my guitar gently sleeps :P

Sleeps?

:lol

And I prefer Jeff Healy's (http://www.myspace.com/jeffhealyband) (shit, how'd I leave him off my list?) version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps to the original.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 02:06 AM
Glad to see Joe Satriani get mentioned, he's incredible.
Where's Robin Trower?

Others I like that have been mentioned...Duane Allman, died so young, I think his best work was still to come.
Mark Knopfler, all of his work, but "The Princess Bride" soundtrack is especially beautiful.
Carlos Santana, heart, just full of heart.

Brian May (from Queen.)
Mike Campbell (Tom Petty), may not be the best but he's got sweet licks.
Johnny Winter could play.

Fun thread...I'll come back as I think of more.


:P

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 02:07 AM
Sleeps?

:lol

And I prefer Jeff Healy's (http://www.myspace.com/jeffhealyband) (shit, how'd I leave him off my list?) version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps to the original.


It's late. i'm sleepy :P

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 02:09 AM
I'm right here.
Aren't you the same person who had that stupid System of a Down thread in the Troll forum a while back?
That right there tells me all I need to know.
Look at that list and tell me that there aren't countless guitarists who could buy and sell ol' Jack on their WORST days, and I'll know for sure that you don't have the slightest shred of a clue of which you speak.

Hunted.




Listen, I'm not saying Jack White is clapton, I'm just saying no one gives him the credit he deserves.



And why the hostility, tough guy?

cherylsteele
10-18-2007, 02:11 AM
How about:

Tom Scholtz - Boston
Brian May - Queen
Steve Miller
Billy Gibbons - ZZTop
Steve Gaines - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Lindsay Buckingham - Fleetwood Mac

Condemned 2 HelLA
10-18-2007, 02:12 AM
Hunted.




Listen, I'm not saying Jack White is clapton, I'm just saying no one gives him the credit he deserves.



And why the hostility, tough guy?

He doesn't deserve credit because he's not that good, plain and simple.
Can you HONESTLY tell me that he's better than Brian May, Randy Rhodes, Tony Iommi, Frank Zappa, Les Paul or Eddie Van Halen (who were ranked lower than him) or Ted Nugent, Michael Schenker, Tom Scholtz and Robin Trower (who didn't even make the cut)?

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 02:13 AM
He doesn't deserve credit because he's not that good, plain and simple.
Can you HONESTLY tell me that he's better than Brian May, Randy Rhodes, Tony Iommi, Frank Zappa, Les Paul or Eddie Van Halen (who were ranked lower than him) or Ted Nugent, Micheal Schenker and Robin Trower (who didn't even make the cut)?


I can HONESTLY say that you're kind of annoying and it's not a big deal.



White is not better than any of thems guys. You win. K?

Condemned 2 HelLA
10-18-2007, 02:16 AM
I can HONESTLY say that you're kind of annoying and it's not a big deal.

I can honestly say that it's now official that you don't know a damn thing about what constitutes a good guitarist.




White is not better than any of thems guys. You win. K?

'Bout time you came to grips with reality.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 02:22 AM
I can honestly say that it's now official that you don't know a damn thing about what constitutes a good guitarist.





'Bout time you came to grips with reality.

Ugh. You're too cool for me, buddy.

Jack White has single handedly saved rock and roll. He has a unique sound, no one else sounds like him. He has more soul than eddie van halen. Yeah, I said it.

What constitutes a good guitarist, eh? There's more than the technical skills. I don't want to listen to eddie finger tap for 3 hours when I can listen to a floyd album with a slow guitar part.


Jesus. Christ.

Condemned 2 HelLA
10-18-2007, 02:25 AM
Jack White has single handedly saved rock and roll.

:lmao

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 08:09 AM
He started out using a RIGHT handed guitar, but held it left handed.

You can't re-string a guitar??

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 08:09 AM
Lol clapton played the guitar on while my guitar gently sleeps :P

He played second, not lead.

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 08:10 AM
You're a fiddle. It's the same thing.

No it's not.

Look it up.

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 08:11 AM
Sleeps?

:lol

And I prefer Jeff Healy's (http://www.myspace.com/jeffhealyband) (shit, how'd I leave him off my list?) version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps to the original.

Jeff Healy is a fucking genius.

But, I forgot all about him.

Fuck!

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 08:12 AM
How about:

Tom Scholtz - Boston
Brian May - Queen
Steve Miller
Billy Gibbons - ZZTop
Steve Gaines - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Lindsay Buckingham - Fleetwood Mac

Lindsay Buckingham is a great guitarist.
But, he has the most unorthodox playing style ever.

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 08:14 AM
He doesn't deserve credit because he's not that good, plain and simple.
Can you HONESTLY tell me that he's better than Brian May, Randy Rhodes, Tony Iommi, Frank Zappa, Les Paul or Eddie Van Halen (who were ranked lower than him) or Ted Nugent, Michael Schenker, Tom Scholtz and Robin Trower (who didn't even make the cut)?

He's better than Ted Nugent and Frank Zappa.

leemajors
10-18-2007, 08:40 AM
He's better than Ted Nugent and Frank Zappa.
:lmao

Soul_Patch
10-18-2007, 09:17 AM
A fiddle is the exact same instrument as a violin, just maybe tuned and played differently.

cherylsteele
10-18-2007, 10:44 AM
Lindsay Buckingham is a great guitarist.
But, he has the most unorthodox playing style ever.
I have heard the same about EVH.

whottt
10-18-2007, 10:53 AM
Ted Nugent, though, I don't see as being especially talented.


You gotta be fucking kidding me...

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 10:54 AM
You gotta be fucking kidding me...

I'm not.

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 10:54 AM
I have heard the same about EVH.

Yea, I think he plucks and taps at the same time or something like that.

whottt
10-18-2007, 10:55 AM
Go see Ted Nugent live...


When you leave, you won't be wondering if he's talented...you'll be wondering if he's the best guitarist you've ever seen...

whottt
10-18-2007, 10:56 AM
If you put Jimmy Page and Ted Nugent right next to each other live...

Jimmy Page would look like he's picking up a guitar for the first time, compared to Ted.

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 10:57 AM
Go see Ted Nugent live...


When you leave, you won't be wondering if he's talented...you'll be wondering if he's the best guitarist you've ever seen...

No I wont.

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 10:59 AM
If you put Jimmy Page and Ted Nugent right next to each other live...

Jimmy Page would look like he's picking up a guitar for the first time, compared to Ted.

That's just ridiculous.

Nugent would pay to wash Page's underware.

whottt
10-18-2007, 11:02 AM
No I wont.


Which is the main reason you don't think he belongs on this list...

He belongs...

He's easily at the same tier as Clapton and Hendrix....


And as a live performer he blows just about everyone on this list away...that's I've seen anyway, and I've seen most of the well known guys....


I'm not talking about that Damn Yankees crap either...

whottt
10-18-2007, 11:04 AM
That's just ridiculous.

Nugent would pay to wash Page's underware.


Spoken like someone who's

A. Never seen Ted Nugent live

and

B. Never seen Jimmy Page live


No comparison....

whottt
10-18-2007, 11:05 AM
Speaking of which...

I always forget Buck Dharma too...

I guess I can understand why he never makes any of these lists.

leemajors
10-18-2007, 11:06 AM
Spoken like someone who's

A. Never seen Ted Nugent live

and

B. Never seen Jimmy Page live


No comparison....
but he listens to led zeppelin 4 every day, man.

peewee's lovechild
10-18-2007, 11:43 AM
Spoken like someone who's

A. Never seen Ted Nugent live

and

B. Never seen Jimmy Page live


No comparison....

I've never seen them live.
But, I can just compare albums.

Jimmy Page was probably high or drunk most of the time while playing live anyway.

Kyle Smith
10-18-2007, 11:22 PM
Jimmy Page was probably high or drunk most of the time while playing live anyway.


Like all good rockstars should be!
:spin

whottt
10-19-2007, 12:01 AM
I've never seen them live.
But, I can just compare albums.

Actually...you just can't.



Page is inarguably the greatest sound engineer to ever pick up a guitar...

But he used his recording equipment to great effect...about 60% of his innovation was because of his engineering genius....

It's also why...he's never sounded half as good live as he does in a studio...


That's as much a tribute to his engineering prowess as it is his actual playing...


Now I never saw him in his prime with Zeppelin...I've only seem him post Zep/heroin...

But I have seen the Song Remains the Same, and it's pretty similar to his post Zep stuff...

And to be frank...he kinda sucks live...sloppy as hell, just doesn't grab you the same way.

He does ok as long as he stick to blues type stuff...when he tries to get heaiver or faster...it just doesn't happen for him that well.






Jimmy Page was probably high or drunk most of the time while playing live anyway.


Doesn't matter...you can't recreate the Zep sound live because it was so heavily engineered...


Ted Nugent wouldn't know sound engineering if you shoved it up his ass...he just knows how to play.

Live is the true test of a guitar player...

And Nugent is matched by only a few when it comes to live performance...


He doesn't have that many fans because...well pretty much because he's an asshole, and he's not particularly well liked by others in the industry and never really has been...even less so these days.

But that doesn't change the fact that dude can just pick up a guitar and play with few peers.



Page is a great composer, studio guitarist, sound engineer, producer, innovator, can play a ton of different styles...but just picking it up and playing?

He's not near as good as most people think IMO.

LaMarcus Bryant
10-19-2007, 12:20 AM
I'd rather be Prince than Jimmy Page. There--I said it.

Jimmy Page's repertoire of instruments: 3

Prince's repertoire of instruments: 43
forty fucking three.

leemajors
10-19-2007, 12:28 AM
I'd rather be Prince than Jimmy Page. There--I said it.

Jimmy Page's repertoire of instruments: 3

Prince's repertoire of instruments: 43
forty fucking three.
appolonia.

peewee's lovechild
10-19-2007, 01:21 PM
Actually...you just can't.



Page is inarguably the greatest sound engineer to ever pick up a guitar...

But he used his recording equipment to great effect...about 60% of his innovation was because of his engineering genius....

It's also why...he's never sounded half as good live as he does in a studio...


That's as much a tribute to his engineering prowess as it is his actual playing...


Now I never saw him in his prime with Zeppelin...I've only seem him post Zep/heroin...

But I have seen the Song Remains the Same, and it's pretty similar to his post Zep stuff...

And to be frank...he kinda sucks live...sloppy as hell, just doesn't grab you the same way.

He does ok as long as he stick to blues type stuff...when he tries to get heaiver or faster...it just doesn't happen for him that well.







Doesn't matter...you can't recreate the Zep sound live because it was so heavily engineered...


Ted Nugent wouldn't know sound engineering if you shoved it up his ass...he just knows how to play.

Live is the true test of a guitar player...

And Nugent is matched by only a few when it comes to live performance...


He doesn't have that many fans because...well pretty much because he's an asshole, and he's not particularly well liked by others in the industry and never really has been...even less so these days.

But that doesn't change the fact that dude can just pick up a guitar and play with few peers.



Page is a great composer, studio guitarist, sound engineer, producer, innovator, can play a ton of different styles...but just picking it up and playing?

He's not near as good as most people think IMO.


Jimmy Hendrix manipulated the guitar sound with objects and distortions, and yet everyone has him as the greatest guitarist ever.

On "Purple Haze", he rubbed his guitar on a microphone to get the sound on the bridge of that song.

What's the difference between him and Page?

ATRAIN
10-19-2007, 01:24 PM
Stevie Ray Vaughan

whottt
10-19-2007, 01:30 PM
Jimmy Hendrix manipulated the guitar sound with objects and distortions, and yet everyone has him as the greatest guitarist ever.

On "Purple Haze", he rubbed his guitar on a microphone to get the sound on the bridge of that song.

What's the difference between him and Page?


Jimi Hendrix could pick up a guitar and get sounds out of it other guitarists would need 50 pieces of equipment and a state of the art recording studio to get....

No fucking contest. Hendrix was the all time greatest at that...that's why he's considered the greatest guitarist ever.



When I say engineering I am talking about overdubbing, mic spacing, reversed recorded pedal effects...a lot of his sounds came from altering recordings of his sessions...with mixing equipment, and equipment specifically created to produce a certain sound...had nothing to do with his actual guitar playing...and yes, he was incredibly good at that. He was a great guitarist...even without the stuff...


But while Page was in there remixing and enhancing pre-recorded tracks...

Hendrix would walk about there on stage and do the same thing, live, with his fucking teeth.

Surely you get the difference?

peewee's lovechild
10-19-2007, 01:33 PM
Jimi Hendrix could pick up a guitar and get sounds out of it other guitarists would need 50 pieces of equipment and a state of the art recording studio to get....

No fucking contest. Hendrix was the all time greatest at that...that's why he's considered the greatest guitarist ever.



When I say engineering I am talking about overdubbing, mic spacing, reversed recorded pedal effects...a lot of his sounds came from altering recordings of his sessions...with mixing equipment...had nothing to do with his guitar playing...and yes, he was incredibly good at that.


So while Page was in there remixing and enhancing pre-recorded tracks...

Hendrix would walk about there on stage and do the same thing, live, with his fucking teeth.

Surely you get the difference?

But, they are both enhancing the sound of the guitar, regardless of the methods employed. Niether is doing pure guitar work like, let's say, B.B. King.

whottt
10-19-2007, 01:35 PM
False...Hendrix was more pure. He was the purest guitarist ever...

And no...BB King couldn't do what Jimi could do either...and he's probably said that in an interview at some point.


When you gave Jimi that same eqiupment? It was a whole different world...


It was like giving Barry Bonds steroids....

peewee's lovechild
10-19-2007, 01:38 PM
False...Hendrix was more pure. He was the purest guitarist ever...

And no...BB King couldn't do what Jimi could do either...and he's probably said that in an interview at some point.


When you gave Jimi that same eqiupment? It was a whole different world...


It was like giving Barry Bonds steroids....

But, that would mean he was good with enhancements.

We're talking about "pure" guitar work.

And, since you've never seen Jimi live (one of your criteria) then he should be left out of the conversation.

whottt
10-19-2007, 01:56 PM
But, that would mean he was good with enhancements.

Uh no..teeth aren't enhancements.

And he did shit with his fingers others couldn't do with equipment. He could wah wah with no pedal...




We're talking about "pure" guitar work.

And, since you've never seen Jimi live (one of your criteria) then he should be left out of the conversation.


Haven't seen Jimi live? His live performances are some of the most legendary performances by a guitarist ever....where have you been?




Look...I'm not going to fucking argue the guitar playing talent of Hendrix with you...you either on crack, or else you're fucking trolling...

peewee's lovechild
10-19-2007, 02:00 PM
Look...I'm not going to fucking argue the guitar playing talent of Hendrix with you...you either on crack, or else you're fucking trolling...

Neither.

It's just that you told me that if I have never seen Page and Nugent live, then I don't know what I'm talking about. All I said is that you've never seen Hendrix live, yet you speak of him with such conviciton.

whottt
10-19-2007, 02:05 PM
Neither.

It's just that you told me that if I have never seen Page and Nugent live, then I don't know what I'm talking about. All I said is that you've never seen Hendrix live, yet you speak of him with such conviciton.


I have seen him live...albeit, recordings.


Besides...go ahead and listen to his studio stuff and compare...by all means.

peewee's lovechild
10-19-2007, 02:15 PM
I have seen him live...albeit, recordings.


Besides...go ahead and listen to his studio stuff and compare...by all means.

And, like I said, I've compared Page and Nugent via their recordings . . . and I think Page is the better guitarist.

whottt
10-20-2007, 12:23 AM
And, like I said, I've compared Page and Nugent via their recordings . . . and I think Page is the better guitarist.


Just be sure to compare their live stuff...

Nugent's the better guitarist.

HeadBanger
10-20-2007, 05:29 AM
Just be sure to compare their live stuff...

Nugent's the better guitarist.

No way is Nugent a better guitarist than Jimmy Page. Not even close.

And I've seen Ted Nugent live over 10 times. And when it comes to song writing....well Ted can't even hold a pick to Jimmy.

101A
10-20-2007, 06:18 AM
@ the Texas Jam in, '83 I think; I saw Nugent, Rik Emmett & Sammy Hagar do "Whole Lot a Love" TOGETHER.

Nugent played Hagar off the stage; then Emmett did the same to Nugent. FWIW.

101A
10-20-2007, 06:19 AM
@ the Texas Jam in, '83 I think; I saw Nugent, Rik Emmett & Sammy Hagar do "Whole Lot a Love" TOGETHER.

Nugent played Hagar off the stage; then Emmett did the same to Nugent. FWIW.I never heard Page do HALF what I saw that day with that song.

HeadBanger
10-20-2007, 06:57 AM
Which is the main reason you don't think he belongs on this list...

He belongs...

He's easily at the same tier as Clapton and Hendrix....


And as a live performer he blows just about everyone on this list away...that's I've seen anyway, and I've seen most of the well known guys....


I'm not talking about that Damn Yankees crap either...

I love Ted but he is not in the same league as Clapton and Hendrix. Not to me anyhow.

leemajors
10-20-2007, 08:27 AM
overdubbing and layered takes doth not a superior guitarist make. peewee is just bolstering whottt's take that page is a better studio man/engineer.

JoeChalupa
10-20-2007, 08:52 AM
This thread comes around every 6 months or so. To me it is all a matter of opinion so the best guitar player depends on who YOU like. I sure couldn't pick one because I like so many. Jmi Hendrix is pure genius due to what he did at the time and he was simply a great guitar player and all you have to do is listen. Clapton is a legend and I love the way he plays. SRV is tops. EVH is great. Santana has a sound and style like no other. Right now I really like John Mayer's playing and he rocks. I don't really know too much of the new guitar players since I listen to classic rock most of the time.

RashoFan
10-21-2007, 10:00 PM
I think Prince should definately be in the top 100 and a personal fav should have an honorable metion....Mike Blessing aka Mike Nesmith.

marini martini
10-21-2007, 10:23 PM
Went to a concert in May, acoustic, Tommy E Manuel, No sheet!

Fillmoe
01-08-2008, 04:11 PM
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/3/2/8/7/15327823-15327825-large.jpg

one of the greatest albums ever!

dirk4mvp
01-08-2008, 04:12 PM
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/3/2/8/7/15327823-15327825-large.jpg

one of the greatest albums ever!


I agree with Hendrix being the best and that being one of the greatest albums ever.

Fillmoe
01-08-2008, 04:13 PM
highway chile, purple haze and fire are my fav tracks....

Soul_Patch
01-08-2008, 04:24 PM
castle made of sand = best hendrix song of all time.

Fillmoe
01-08-2008, 04:27 PM
RHCP did a cover of that song... it wasnt too bad, i thought it was pretty good

travis2
01-09-2008, 07:45 AM
I like a lot of guitarists and a lot of different styles...but my personal favorites are (in no particular order)

Alex Lifeson
Mark Knopfler
Brian May
Eddie Van Halen
Eric Clapton

You have guitarists and you have musicians. These are musicians. They didn't just stand there and rip the strings off their guitars (although they certainly could do that). Their guitar work ENHANCED the songs they were part of.

And of course, the above list of musicians is not exhaustive. They just happen to be my favorites.

Ignignokt
01-09-2008, 09:02 AM
yall are on crack.


Best Rock guitarist.
Randi Rhoads- Metal
Jimi Hendrix - Psychedillic Rock.
Mark Knopfler 70's

Best Blues Guitarist.

Charlie Christian>>>Albert King>>Robert Johnson>>Lonnie Johnson>>Stevie Ray Vaughn>>>>>>>>Hendrix.


Best Prog/Jazz/Fusion Rock.

John Abercrombie = John Scofield = John MacLaughlin= Pat Metheny>Adam Holzman>Satch>Vai>Andy Timmons.

Best Bebop.

Pat Martino>Montgomery> Kenny Burrell> everyone Else.

Best Classical.

Segovia> Augustine Barrios> Julian Bream, John Williams, Pepe Romero.

Best Flamenco.

Paco De Lucia with Paco Pena being a close second.



BEst Pure guitarist ever.


PACO DE LUCIA.

LMB!!!!!!!!!


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cherylsteele
01-09-2008, 01:07 PM
What about the greatest violinist?

(don't use Itzak Perlman . . . that's too easy)
Violinist/Fiddlers:
Charlie Daniels (my all time favorite)
Jeff Cook (Alabama)
Mark O'Connor
Bob Wills
Alison Krauss

A violin is sometimes informally called a fiddle, regardless of the kind of music being played with it. The word "violin" is derived from Italian and the word "fiddle" is native to English. The two words are etymologically related, both ultimately deriving from the same Germanic word.[1] Wikipedia

ZStomp
01-09-2008, 09:28 PM
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p4/jamiecat2/PR_ZakkWylde2.jpg


I personally like this guy. Zakk Wylde

Ignignokt
01-09-2008, 09:31 PM
sorry this guy beats anyone listed.

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J.T.
01-09-2008, 09:34 PM
Charlie Christian>>>Albert King>>Robert Johnson>>Lonnie Johnson>>Stevie Ray Vaughn>>>>>>>>Hendrix.

SRV = 5th all time greatest blues guitarist?

CRACK HEAD

Ignignokt
01-09-2008, 09:48 PM
SRV = 5th all time greatest blues guitarist?

CRACK HEAD


Blues is not all about twangy strats, WC handy is the father of the blues and he was a trumpet player.

Comeback to me when your perception of the blues is more than some twangy cheesy SRV imitation band playing the same tired licks over and over.

YEs SRV is 5th of all time.

Buy some records.

J.T.
01-09-2008, 09:55 PM
Blues is not all about twangy strats, WC handy is the father of the blues and he was a trumpet player.

Comeback to me when your perception of the blues is more than some twangy cheesy SRV imitation band playing the same tired licks over and over.

YEs SRV is 5th of all time.

Buy some records.

SRV had the talent of 10 guitarists. Spoken like a true idiot.

Ignignokt
01-09-2008, 09:57 PM
SRV had the talent of 10 guitarists. Spoken like a true idiot.

You're Right.

if by ten guitarist, you mean 5 johhny langs and 5 kenny Wayne shepards.

but head to head, he's no Montgomery.

BeerIsGood!
01-09-2008, 11:11 PM
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p4/jamiecat2/PR_ZakkWylde2.jpg


I personally like this guy. Zakk Wylde

Truth. I never miss him when he comes through Dallas. Never. Great live performances. The Boozed, Broozed, and Broken Boned performance was instant classic. Based on pure guitar skills/talent, on being able to just pick up a guitar, any guitar, and jam in about 10 different styles - I can't think of anyone better. Blues, Metal, Shred, Country, Bluegrass, Southern Rock, Soul, etc... the guy f'n rocks. Loved Pride and Glory, Book of Shadows, BLS...

BeerIsGood!
01-09-2008, 11:50 PM
These threads always crack me up because it's all subjective. There's someone out there who thinks the kid from the White Stripes is the greatest guitarist of all time.

Some of the ones that are really good but overlooked -

Jerry Cantrell.
Tony Iommi (godfather of the power riff)
Jake E Lee
Jeff Healy
The guy who mentioned Todd Whitener (forgot which poster it was) was on to something - very much under the radar but a unique style with the heavy riffs on the acoustic.

Ted Nugent - underrated guitarist. I think it's mostly because his horrific singing washes out the greatness of his guitar work, but there isn't much better (or louder) live. I think Ted was at his best with Derek St. Holmes singing on his solo debut that brought one of the best rock songs of all time - Stranglehold.

Randy Rhodes - anyone who appreciates old school metal knows and appreciates Randy Rhodes. Very melodic and precise in his work, even live.

Dave Mustaine - How in the hell is there no mention of Mustaine? He's the hands down best speed metal/thrash guitarist I've heard. Kirk Hammet has nothing on Mustaine. 90% of Metallica's "Kill 'Em All" album are altered Mustaine riffs. Not only that, the guy has re-invented his music over the years and successfully made some great groove metal with "Symphony of Destruction", the rest of "Countdown to Extinction" and the tracks on albums like "Cryptic Writings". As a rock/metal guitarist, if you want to test your ability to palm mute you throw yourself at some Mustaine riffs. Personally, I really like more Megadeth songs (27) than songs of any other musician/band. It's almost unheard of for me to like more than 5 or 6 songs from a single musician/band.

On a personal favorite musicianship level (not necessarily greatest guitarist) I like Todd Park Mohr of Big Head Todd and the Monsters. That's another great live band that I never miss when they come through Dallas.

So many others to list, but that's all I'm going to ramble on for now.