Game Blog: Spurs vs. Warriors - Preseason

[timvp]

Again, thank you Warriors for owning the Mavs last postseason.

:tu

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

They were just owning a team they were supposed to own.

[ShoogarBear]

:lol

[T Park]

i bought and downloaded game 6 today as a birthday present to myself.

Ahh its just as wonderfull now as it was in May.

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs vs. Warriors
PREGAME

The Spurs once again go into a preseason game without any of their usual point guards. Tony Parker, Jacque Vaughn and Beno Udrih are all listed as "will not play" for tonight's meeting with the Golden State Warriors.

Udrih, who has a fracture of his left index finger, was out on the court running before the game. They're not even listing an injury for Parker now -- so there doesn't seem to be any worry around the team about having Parker ready to play for the season. Vaughn has a strained right calf.

Manu Ginobili and Michael Finley are listed as the starting guards for the Spurs.

- posted by Joe Alexander, MySanAntonio.com
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/2007/10/spurs_vs_warriors.html

[Tek_XX]

Is this game on t.v anywhere?

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Again, thank you Warriors for owning the Mavs last postseason. That team scares me shitless and they would have prevented us from getting title #4. Last thing I needed to see was that poster Dirk Nowitzki use those annoying emotions of: :clap :clap :clap :elephant :elephant :elephant Instead I got to see him meltdown and do :madrun :madrun :madrun :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss

:tu


Fixed :)

[Spurs Brazil]

Barry, Bruce and TD out today

[loveforthegame]

Washington, Udoka, and Elson getting the start?

[ducks]

10:36 SA - Shooting foul on F. Oberto
10:36 GS - Layup by K. Azubuike
10:52 SA - M. Ginobili made an 8-foot jumper in the lane. Assist: D. Washington
10:57 GS - Personal foul on M. Pietrus
11:03 GS - B. Davis made a 25-foot three-pointer from the left wing. Assist: S. Jackson
11:11 GS - K. Azubuike steals the ball from M. Ginobili
11:25 GS - K. Azubuike made shot
11:40 GS - S. Jackson defensive rebound
11:42 SA - F. Oberto missed a 5-foot jumper in the lane
12:00 Jump ball - P. O'Bryant vs. F. Elson: Tip to F. Oberto

[Spurs Brazil]

Pop is not on the bench

Bud is the coach

[Obstructed_View]

i bought and downloaded game 6 today as a birthday present to myself.

Ahh its just as wonderfull now as it was in May.
I still have it on my PVR. I watch it when I'm feeling blue. :lol

[T Park]

The fans behind Cuban giving him the business was television gold.

[T Park]

Pop is not on the bench

Bud is the coach

Were goin summer league on this bitch.

[E20]

And1 for Elson.

[E20]

Steal by Washington.

[E20]

Udoooooooooooooooooka for a trey.

[E20]

Foul on Oboito.

[ShoogarBear]

Pop is not on the bench

Bud is the coachHokey smokes. :lol They should have just brought Quin Synder and the Toros.

[E20]

Red Rocket with a 16 foot jumper assist Washington.
Bonner also with an offensive rebound and a putback. Nice start.

[T Park]

Totally forgot the Warriors signed croshere...

[T Park]

30 28 in the first quarter.

Good idea pop didn't show up.

[Spurs Brazil]

FIRST QUARTER: LINEUP SHUFFLE

The Spurs went with a younger starting lineup than usual. New Spurs Darius Washington and Ime Udoka got the start at guard and small forward, respectively. Manu Ginobili started at the other guard. Frabricio Oberto and Francisco Elson started together at the big spots.

Tim Duncan and Brent Barry were among those in street clothes on the bench. Gregg Popovich was also not on the bench in the first quarter, even though he was on the floor an hour before gametime talking to Warriors coach Don Nelson. Instead, Popovich was watching from the stands while Spurs assistant coach Mike Budenholzer was calling plays from the sidelines.

[Spurs Brazil]

Bonner with 5rebs already

[T Park]

Bonner 6 points 5 rebounds already.

Damn this guy could be set for a year....

[T Park]

Instead, Popovich was watching from the stands while Spurs assistant coach Mike Budenholzer was calling plays from the sidelines

Hopefully this isn't a Nelly to Avery Johnson thing....

[Spurs Brazil]

Pedroza 33333333333333 at the buzzer

Warriors up 37-36 after one

[T Park]

End of 1 quarter

Warriors 37
Spurs 36

Lever-Pedroza with a buzzer beating three.

[Dex]

Anybody know where the hell the NBA Audio Leaguepass went?

I go the same spot the link used to be and now it just lets me View Highlights. :( What kind of chump do they take me for?

[loveforthegame]

Not bad to be hanging with the Warriors considering we're without Duncan, Parker, Bowen, and Barry.

Nice game by Bonner.

[Spurs Brazil]

Williams already in

Langford scores

[Spurs Brazil]

Cisco with 9pts

[ShoogarBear]

Anybody know where the hell the NBA Audio Leaguepass went?

I go the same spot the link used to be and now it just lets me View Highlights. :( What kind of chump do they take me for?Working fine for me tonight.

[ShoogarBear]

However I see after a couple of good games, nba.com is back to its usual boxscore suckage.

[T Park]

Mahinmi with a hook shot.


I see the Warriors stole Pat Burke from the Suns. :lol

[YogeeBear]

My pal Shoogar, he's bitterer than the average bear!

[ShoogarBear]

Well, at least this preseason has been a golden opportunity for Beno finally to show he can step up.

Oh, wait.

[ShoogarBear]

My pal Shoogar, he's bitterer than the average bear!Elitist Hanna-Barberan ursa.

[YogeeBear]

Beno reminds me of Boobu before I took him under my wing.

[Bu Bu]

Blow me Yogee.

[duncan228]

However I see after a couple of good games, nba.com is back to its usual boxscore suckage.

We knew it was too good to last.

[mystargtr34]

lol wtf

[mystargtr34]

Bonner playing excellent, mind you it is the Warriors, aka a rebounding drill.

Impressed with Ian's hook, :)

[koopa]

nba.com's boxscore always sucks in the preseason............ you can look at the boxscores on espn.com

[smrattler]

Any internet radio link?

[xcoriate]

im going with the yahoo.com/nba one, simple but effective.

[smrattler]

ah... found it. nba.com audio league pass... it works! click on San antonio:
http://www.nba.com/broadband/alp_schedule.html

[smrattler]

cool, i'm listening to the Spurs and watching Mavs-vs-Rockets. All three Texas teams.

I was anxious to see Scola... 4 fouls in 6 mins. VERY impressive. :)

[ShoogarBear]

In the past, I've almost always used Yahoo, occasionally sportsline.com. I just tried nba.com for the first couple of games and it was working very well, but tonight it's back to its norm.

[E20]

Mahinmi playing good on offense 6 points on 50%FG, but only has 1 rebound and 2 TO's in 7 mins.

[mystargtr34]

cool, i'm listening to the Spurs and watching Mavs-vs-Rockets. All three Texas teams.

I was anxious to see Scola... 4 fouls in 6 mins. VERY impressive. :)

No less agianst the likes of Fazekas and Brandon Bass :lol

[smrattler]

Those guys started... I think it was on THEIR backups when Scola came in.

Actually, Bass did abuse him for a nice stretch.

[smrattler]

Spurs came out on fire but the Warriors on a nice run, 67-64.

[mystargtr34]

Mahinmi = Patrik O'Bryant

[smrattler]

SJax drawing them closer.

Manu strikes back, 16 points for him so far.

Darius just extended them.

Wow, the Warriors score a lot and fast, but they also give it up FAST too. Damn...

[mystargtr34]

Darius with 5 assists ...

[Steve Irwin]

warriors finna roast yo bitch ass beezies

[mystargtr34]

Williams doesnt seem to have trouble getting to the rim, he just cant finish there

[whottt]

Williams doesnt seem to have trouble getting to the rim, he just cant finish there


Two words:

Warriors
Preseason

[Steve Irwin]

breh u tryna roast i finna beat yo ass

[mystargtr34]

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/photos?photoId=1713373&gameId=271018024

Marcus should have finished that

[mystargtr34]

Two words:

Warriors
Preseason

Just Warriors was enough.

But hes blown a few lay ups in the first two games also.

[ThomasGranger]

How many traveling calls on Mahinmi does that make--three?

[ChumpDumper]

4:58 SA - M. Williams made a 15-foot jumper from the right wing. Assist: D. Washington

:smchode: :smchode: :smchode:

[ThomasGranger]

Darius Washington is a few boards and a couple of assists shy of a triple double. He may even be better than Beno!

[A.H 21-50]

Marcus Williams scores 6 of last 10 point for SA :toast

[meta2007]

It will be hard for Warriors to make playoff this season!

[mystargtr34]

Ian with the block

[Joe Schmoogins]

Darius Washington! ! ! ! !

[ThomasGranger]

I'd like to see this go into OT.

[ShoogarBear]

Oh, no. Darius Washington at the line to win the game.

[mystargtr34]

hahaha u gotta be kidding.

This should be good for Marcus' confidence.
10 pts in 13 mins

[ChumpDumper]

Darius hits both!

[ShoogarBear]

Darius hits both!2 years too late.

[mystargtr34]

Darius has put up some good numbers, but hows he running the offense, anyone have any idea :D

[ChumpDumper]

2 years too late.I don't care about C-USA.

[whottt]

Ian needs to get 2 boards to have matched Wilt er I mean Scola.

[ChumpDumper]

Darius hits two more!

[smrattler]

The young guys, Darius leading them, to beat the Warriors who were playing vets late in the game too. Fought them off.

Washington: 18 points, 9 rebs, 8 assits

Beno is now the 4th best PG on the team. Not including Manu and Barry. Might be 6th best. :(

[A.H 21-50]

The Spurs win 116-111

I'm impressed by washington numbers
18 pts on a 5/9 shooting 7/8 FTs 8 assits 9 rebounds 3 steals and 4 to

[mystargtr34]

Nice recovery from Marcus, hit 3 of his last 4 shots and got to the line 6 times, also picked up 3 rebounds in 14 minutes.

Darius > Beno

[Joe Schmoogins]

I don't care if it's preseason... Those are respectable numbers. Give D-wash a shot and drop Beno. If only there was a way...

[mystargtr34]

Ian struggled a bit it looks like

[smrattler]

If this is an indicator of what Washington's been doing in practices and he has another solid game against Detroit, the Spurs really can't afford to keep Beno if they possibly have a decent 3rd PG that has some guts.

[Thompson]

I don't care if it's preseason... Those are respectable numbers. Give D-wash a shot and drop Beno. If only there was a way...

Seriously, if the Spurs want to get rid of Beno, can they find a taker? For a second round pick, a trade exemption, a monopoly ticket for medium fries at McDonald's? Give this Darius kid a chance; he sure tries harder than Beno.

[whottt]

I am pretty sure Beno is on his way out....

But I would like to see them get a second round pick or something like that for him if possible....


Early in the season Pop is just going to be screwing around anyway....if they don't waive him, might try to jack up his value a bit...



He definitely needs to be gone no matter what...but it seems like something could be had for him.

[Thompson]

I am pretty sure Beno is on his way out....

But I would like to see them get a second round pick or something like that for him if possible....

Early in the season Pop is just going to be screwing around anyway....if they don't waive him, might try to jack up his value a bit...

He definitely needs to be gone no matter what...but it seems like something could be had for him.


Do we have to reduce the roster to 15 by the start of the season, or can we keep Darius until we can get rid of Beno some time down the line?

[AFBlue]

Do we have to reduce the roster to 15 by the start of the season, or can we keep Darius until we can get rid of Beno some time down the line?
Roster has to be at 15 by start of season.

[BeerIsGood!]

Did the Warriors actually play their rotation guys much in this game, or was it scrub on scrub action most of the night?

[mystargtr34]

Jax Baron Harrington and Barnes all played a fair bit.

[whottt]

Do we have to reduce the roster to 15 by the start of the season, or can we keep Darius until we can get rid of Beno some time down the line?



Yeah but they don't have to keep Williams on this contract...and it's looking like they might not.

He played okay tonight...but still...it's not like we've to have him on this contract.


1. Duncan
2. Parker
3. Manu
4. Bowen
5. Horry
6. Barry
7. Oberto
8. Elson
9. Udoka
10. Vaughn
11. Bonner
12. Mahinmi
13. Finley
14. Washington

15. Beno or Williams


Williams goes to the Toros in the draft...


Play Beno as the backup while Pop is fucking around with the roster...then move him.

If you can't move him after a bit, then waive him.


Then you can being Williams up anytime you want....

[DieMrBond]

If Washington doesnt get a job with the Spurs, if he keeps playing like that - he will get one somewhere else surely.

[whottt]

If Washington doesnt get a job with the Spurs, if he keeps playing like that - he will get one somewhere else surely.



Oh I'm pretty sure he's going to make the roster...


Unless Pop has really gone soft and is going to give Beno's undeserving ass one more chance.

[ShoogarBear]

I am pretty sure Beno is on his way out....

But I would like to see them get a second round pick or something like that for him if possible....
Wow, you mean get for Beno what we got for Butler and Scola combined? I don't think so.

To borrow from another thread . . . the bar has been set.

[E20]

I couldn't see the game, but Washington balled it up. Near triple double playing, played against an incredible PG -- Baron Davis. The guy deserves at least a 10-day contract or something.

Washington >>> Udrih.

[T Park]

Wow the numbers from Washington are VERY impressive.

Definately in this game alone has earned the third PG spot instead of fatass udrih.

[Solid D]

Wow the numbers from Washington are VERY impressive.

Definately in this game alone has earned the third PG spot instead of fatass udrih.

Welp...time to change your avatar to Washington, then.

:smokin

[whottt]

Wow, you mean get for Beno what we got for Butler and Scola combined? I don't think so.

To borrow from another thread . . . the bar has been set.

Same thing we got for Damir Markota....


Hey I'm not saying it's a certainty...I'm saying, what have we got to lose?

[mystargtr34]

We kinda screwed the Bucks over pretty good there seing as Damir is already out of the league.

[Slydragon]

Recap

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ax_CtmYgwAM

[SKINNYPIMP210]

Recap

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ax_CtmYgwAM

THANKS!!!

[timvp]

Oh I'm pretty sure he's going to make the roster...


Unless Pop has really gone soft and is going to give Beno's undeserving ass one more chance.I don't think it's safe to say that Washington has made the team. Beno for some reason has nine lives with the Spurs. He's on life number five or six right now.

Even though Washington is basically the same age as Marcus Williams and obviously the better player, the Spurs used a second rounder on Williams so he might be kept instead.

I think Washington is still a longshot to make the team. The Spurs would have to believe in him enough to either eat Beno's contract or cut a player they drafted at the beginning of the second round.

If it were up to me, I'd keep him because I don't really think Williams has the talent or Beno has the heart to be NBA players.

[T Park]

If it were up to me, I'd keep him because I don't really think Williams has the talent or Beno has the heart to be NBA players.

just cut beno.

simple as that.

dont take it out on marcus that beno sucks lol

[Joe Schmoogins]

If it comes down to keeping 2 out of 3 of them, you have to keep d-wash and williams. No doubt about it as far as I'm concerned. Beno has absolutely no future with the spurs... elsewhere? Perhaps. But none with the Spurs. Wash and WIll are both young and unlike Beno their future here hasn't been pissed away yet.

Eat Beno's contract, he doesn't deserve another minute as a member of the current NBA champs... Give the young guns a chance...

[whottt]

I don't think it's safe to say that Washington has made the team. Beno for some reason has nine lives with the Spurs. He's on life number five or six right now.

Even though Washington is basically the same age as Marcus Williams and obviously the better player, the Spurs used a second rounder on Williams so he might be kept instead.

I think Washington is still a longshot to make the team. The Spurs would have to believe in him enough to either eat Beno's contract or cut a player they drafted at the beginning of the second round.

If it were up to me, I'd keep him because I don't really think Williams has the talent or Beno has the heart to be NBA players.



My question to you....


What do you think Pop thinks about Beno's comments?


You yourself knows Pop loves AJ...and you yourself also know that when AJ got cancerous at the end of his Spurs career...Pop ran him.


You think Beno will be exempt?


See, I can't see Pop looking past that.


I think the reason the Spurs haven't moved him yet, is simply they didn't have a 3rd string PG...I do think Vassilis was a consideration...and I definitely think Pop likes what he's seen from Washington more...

Plus, Washington is kind of a guy that you pull for...


Yeah he choked, at the very end of that game, and that's a scary thought about having him on your team...at the same time...he was in so much pain over it, that you just want to see him given a chance to erase that...plus, as a back pg, if he's in at the end of a must win game...we probably aren't winning that game.

It's seldom that I'll endorse a proven choker...those guys scare me worse than any other type player, but when they are in that much pain over it...they deserve a chance for redemption.

[Mr. Body]

That Washington is back in the picture at all is a huge testament to his fortitude. The guy's been through more basketball-induced misery than most players see in a lifetime. He choked against Louisville in a vital game, then bounced back to lead his team to a great season the next year. Then he declared for the draft, foolishly hired an agent, and wasn't drafted. Those are things that can break a player.

Instead, he's taken a year in Greece and fought his way back, and there's little doubt he'll be around the league for some time, even if at the end of benches. But is there any reason not to think he'll have a Jacques Vaughn-type career? I'm pretty impressed so far.

Cut Beno. He's not going to do anything this year. If you can't get a fifth round pick for him, cut him. He is what's called in the business world a 'sunk cost'. Just let it go... especially when keeping him winds up costing something worthwhile. Simply having a gutsy guy at the end of the bench, instead of a fat slob, can pay dividends.

[Hemotivo]

Recap

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ax_CtmYgwAM

Thanx for the vid
Cisco knows the system "a little bit"?
:lol

[smrattler]

That Washington is back in the picture at all is a huge testament to his fortitude. The guy's been through more basketball-induced misery than most players see in a lifetime. He choked against Louisville in a vital game, then bounced back to lead his team to a great season the next year. Then he declared for the draft, foolishly hired an agent, and wasn't drafted. Those are things that can break a player.

Instead, he's taken a year in Greece and fought his way back, and there's little doubt he'll be around the league for some time, even if at the end of benches. But is there any reason not to think he'll have a Jacques Vaughn-type career? I'm pretty impressed so far.

Cut Beno. He's not going to do anything this year. If you can't get a fifth round pick for him, cut him. He is what's called in the business world a 'sunk cost'. Just let it go... especially when keeping him winds up costing something worthwhile. Simply having a gutsy guy at the end of the bench, instead of a fat slob, can pay dividends.

This is the thing that really impresses me about him. Not his skills (which he obviously must have some to put together a stat line like that), his toughness.

He freakin LED us last night. Repeat: LED. He out toughed a Warriors team that was playing some starters down the stretch. A close game and he took control and guided us to a win. He wanted the ball and hit the clutch FTs to seal it. WHEN has Beno ever done that at any point in any game he has ever stepped out there to play in? When has he ever shown toughness like this?

Pop is a sucker for mentally tough and hard working PGs. IF this guy is showing this daily in practice and continues to show toughness and leadership in pre-season, Pop will have a hard time letting a guy go when he has the thing he looks for most in a 3rd string PG. Hungry, tough, hard working. The anti-Beno.

[mystargtr34]

I been reading up on the kid, and like someone pointed out, he only turns 22 this year, he has all the tools to be one of the better defenders at the guard spot in the league, hes not the tallest at 6'1" in shoes but he has the body to not be bullied around and the quickness to stay with the smaller points.

I will be shocked if we DONT sign him at least to a couple of 10 dayers.

[ThomasGranger]

Pop is a sucker for mentally tough and hard working PGs. IF this guy is showing this daily in practice and continues to show toughness and leadership in pre-season, Pop will have a hard time letting a guy go when he has the thing he looks for most in a 3rd string PG. Hungry, tough, hard working. The anti-Beno.

It may be less a question of whether or not Pop is impressed (I'm betting he probably has been) and more about whether RC is willing to cough up the extra cash it would take to sign Darius if they can't trade Beno.

[ChumpDumper]

RC doesn't sign the checks.

[ThomasGranger]

RC doesn't sign the checks.

My bad, I meant Holt.

[smrattler]

^ Drop in the bucket. How much could the guy possibly make? At the price they are selling at the ATTC, sell about 2 more hotdogs and 1 more order of nachos per game and you've covered his salary.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not quite sure that would add up to $1.7 million -- but I didn't buy nachos the last game I attended.

[T Park]

At the price they are selling at the ATTC, sell about 2 more hotdogs and 1 more order of nachos per game and you've covered his salary.

the prices at ATT, are cheaper compared to US Airways Arena, CHase Field, and University of Phoenix Stadium here in the desert.