Waive Beno.

[ChumpDumper]

Why the hell not?

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

do it, do it now

[whottt]

Cleveland might still be interested in him...


Wouldn't bother me if the Spurs showcased Beno for a bit and tried to get something for him...


Then if that doesn't work, waive him.

He definitely needs to go...I'd just like to see them attempt to get something for him before they do it.

He can shoot and pass and is an experienced guard...

[ThomasGranger]

Yes, for the love of God, DO IT !

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Drop Beno. Sign Darius.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Drop Beno. Sign Darius.

yes, and that wouldnt surprise darius one bit

[Joe Schmoogins]

Drop Beno. Sign Darius.


HARUMPH!



http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes5/blazingsad31.jpeg

[RC's Boss]

Hell yeah. Drop that sumbitch!

[Joe Schmoogins]

I need a new pic... didnt mean to steal yours HIGHLOW.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

its cool. i think everybody's got love fer david

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

i wonder if houston would give us scola for beno

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Showcasing Beno does not work. Especially when he breaks his finger delving into a tiny picante sauce holder for his precious taquitos. The bitch flat out sucks. Four years. Four fucking years. GMAFB. The guy was a mistake, he has been downhill since December of his Rookie season, noone wants this guy...

Honestly when was the last GOOD thing anyone heard about Beno: Spurstalk, general media, opinion-wise????

Why would anyone want an unmotivated, overweight, slow, emo, purse-toting european shooting guard in a point guard's body?

[whottt]

Showcasing Beno does not work. Especially if he broke his finger delving into a tiny picante sauce holder for his precious taquitos. The bitch flat out sucks. Four years. Four fucking years. GMAFB. The guy was a mistake, he has been downhill since December of his Rookie season, noone wants this guy...

Honestly when was the last GOOD thing anyone heard about Beno: Spurstalk, general media, opinion-wise????


Actually...they almost moved him to the Clippers a few years ago...


Ferry supposedly wanted him in Cleveland.



The reason Beno hasn't been traded yet...is because Pop doesn't like not having a 3rd string PG(and no coach in the NBA does)..


He probably isn't movable...


But the Spurs have abosolutely nothing to lose by trying it...except maybe Marcus Williams.

Beno's got talent...it's everything else that sucks.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

What boggles this man's mind is how our scouting reports did not notice his modicum of lateral quickness needed to defend PG's, and his propensity for Valentino Suits.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

everyone knows he cant even bring the ball up the court if hes pressed. i think thats a point guards #1 responsibility. that would be all we would be showcasing. he is worthless.

[whottt]

What boggles this man's mind is how our scouting reports did not notice his modicum of lateral quickness needed to defend PG's, and his propensity for Valentino Suits.


I dunno...but D'antoni said he was a fat kid over in Europe his first year here and everyone laughed at D'antoni for being clueless.

[SequSpur]

It never ceases to amaze me how you guys have delayed wusses. I called this shit 3 years ago.

[dwashfan]

sign darius...if he can do what he did tonight after just 3 games imagine what he can do in a few months

[duncan7721]

Drop Beno. Sign Darius.
Yes, especially after darius's golden state performance.

[timvp]

Why the hell not?He should have shipped off a long time ago.

This is what happens when you keep someone around just because you drafted the player . . .

[T Park]

This is what happens when you keep someone around just because you drafted the player . . .

fucking RC Buford....

[timvp]

Showcasing Beno does not work. Especially when he breaks his finger delving into a tiny picante sauce holder for his precious taquitos. The bitch flat out sucks. Four years. Four fucking years. GMAFB. The guy was a mistake, he has been downhill since December of his Rookie season, noone wants this guy...

Honestly when was the last GOOD thing anyone heard about Beno: Spurstalk, general media, opinion-wise????

Why would anyone want an unmotivated, overweight, slow, emo, purse-toting european shooting guard in a point guard's body?:lol Exactly.

No team is going to be dumb enough to fall for a showcased Beno. If the Spurs are lucky enough to find a team to take him, it'll be because the Spurs throw in enough money in the trade to nullify the contract.

No team in their right mind would take Beno ... much less give the Spurs something for him.



Actually...they almost moved him to the Clippers a few years ago...


Ferry supposedly wanted him in Cleveland. Nah, I can't buy that. If another team actually offered anything, the Spurs would have shipped him out. The Clipper rumor was to match salaries and the Cleveland rumor would have happened by now if it had any legs.

Right now, the Spurs would have to pay a team to take him. Even then, I don't think there are any teams out there that want to waste cap room or a roster spot on Beno even if it wouldn't cost them a dime.

[whottt]

fucking RC Buford....



You do realize Pop hired him right?

Oh I get it...it's ok when you criticize Pop...

[barbacoataco]

I have wondered why they didn't draft a PG this year, since they had the opportunity to get someone decent like Taurean Green. Then they could have waved Beno.

[whottt]

Nah, I can't buy that. If another team actually offered anything, the Spurs would have shipped him out. The Clipper rumor was to match salaries and the Cleveland rumor would have happened by now if it had any legs.

Dude...calling me Beno was out of line...

Especially since you, Chump and the missus were all over his jock as a rookie...I was the guy wanting Barry played ahead of him about a third of the way through the season...

You guys didn't figure it out till game 3 of the 05 finals.






Right now, the Spurs would have to pay a team to take him. Even then, I don't think there are any teams out there that want to waste cap room or a roster spot on Beno even if it wouldn't cost them a dime.


My point is...

What have they got to lose by trying it?

Pop is going to screw around with the rotation for the first 2 months of the season anyway...


Spurs have to get smarter about stuff like this....

They always kill the trade value of any player that has fallen out of favor with them.


You tell Beno if he wants to play this year to get his ass in shape fast...

You give him big minutes in blowouts...

You have Pop sing his praises about how improved he is...


But RC still wants him gone...

IF he shoots decent, the assists will come with minutes...


Again...

I just want to know what we have to lose by doing it...


This does not mean I don't want him gone this season...I definitely do. I just don't see why you don't try and move him...


And your reaccounts of past rumored trades with Beno are revisionism...



The fact is, Beno has NBA level talent...

[timvp]

You give him big minutes in blowouts...

You have Pop sing his praises about how improved he is...Isn't that what the Spurs have been doing the last two years? Hasn't worked yet.

And that was back when Beno was in halfway decent shape and before he found breakfast tacos and San Antonio's nightlife.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Dude...calling me Beno was out of line...

ROTLFROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

:lmao
Dude I have not laughed so hard about a single spurstalk post in a long time

props
this quote alone makes the thread classic forum worthy

[whottt]

Isn't that what the Spurs have been doing the last two years? Hasn't worked yet.

Ehhh....I don't think they actually completely gave up on him till last year...

It's one thing for him to suck...it's entirely another for him to complain while sucking.







And that was back when Beno was in halfway decent shape and before he found breakfast tacos and San Antonio's nightlife.


I agree with that...his shooting sucks now as well...

But if he wants out...he'll get in shape...keep in mind, he got into good shape to get drafted, and it's a big year for him now.





Again I ask you...what have the Spurs got to lose by trying it while Pop is in experiment mode during the first 2 months of the season?

If nothing happens...waive him.

What have they got to lose?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

They always kill the trade value of any player that has fallen out of favor with them.

The Whott does have point here.

[timvp]

Dude...calling me Beno was out of line...:lol :rollin

I just realized what I did. It wasn't on purpose.

I apologize.

Profusely.

[whottt]

Isn't that what the Spurs have been doing the last two years? Hasn't worked yet

Pop is the guy that screws it up...

It's so obvious when he doesn't like a player...and every GM in the NBA keys in on it...and stays away out of fear of being made a fool of...


Pop has to get better at stuff like this...he's the only one that knows how bad Beno is pissing him off.




Put it this way...if Beno does put up good numbers, he's already made noise about wanting to leave...so it won't be a big surprise if the Spurs start making calls to move him.

[whottt]

:lol :rollin

I just realized what I did. It wasn't on purpose.

I apologize.

Profusely.



Ok then...if you say it was accident I believe you. No hard feelings. :tu


Edit: You can call me anything else you want...just don't call me a Beno. I'll show you the same consideration. Deal? ;)

:smokin

[LaMarcus Bryant]

ROFLROFL
:lmao

low blow

[timvp]

As far as what the Spurs have to lose ... the answer is not much. That said, the aspects that make Beno untradeable aren't things that can be fixed. He's not going to learn how to handle the ball. He's not going to become dedicated to basketball overnight. His defense isn't going to progress much.

The Spurs could try the showcase route but I think the damage has been done. I good showcasing would result in the Spurs trading him for a second round pick. That's not much reward for the risk you have in trusting Beno yet again to make progress.

Waiving him and watching him be shocked that teams aren't lining up to give him starting jobs might be worth the price of eating his contract. Beno is going to face a rude awakening the moment he's no longer property of the Spurs.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

After the Scola trade, the spurs making another trade that puts them more in a deficit could have dire consequences ~3 seasons down the road. This guy has put us in a lose lose situation.
Congrats Beno, I hope you are reading this thread, you loser.

[timvp]

However, I do agree that the Spurs suck at almost always selling low. I've complained about that for years. Like I've said before, when is the last time the Spurs made a trade in which they traded away a player when their value was at or at least near the highest?

I seriously don't know the answer to that.

[whottt]

Well there's no doubt that Washington has more to offer...

The Spurs aren't really sold on Vaughn as the back up PG either IMO...

I definitely want Washington as 3rd string PG after tonights performance.

The only other negative I could see is that he would need every possible minute of PT he could get...with the team, in the d-league etc...if he's going to be any kind of a contributor this season....

And showcasing Beno might cut into that PT....


I still think you know...if Beno could put up some nice numbers, and he has done before...he might develop into a decent trade prospect.

[T Park]

You do realize Pop hired him right?

Oh I get it...it's ok when you criticize Pop...


:lol

old pops won 4 rings, done all hes done, and you guys will still find any little corner to shit on him.

Congrats Coyote Jr :tu

[whottt]

However, I do agree that the Spurs suck at almost always selling low. I've complained about that for years. Like I've said before, when is the last time the Spurs made a trade in which they traded away a player when their value was at or at least near the highest?

I seriously don't know the answer to that.


I don't think they ever have....

Maybe Malik...

And Malik was definitely their most successful showcase attempt.


It's just that Pop is too honest...


Plus, he's the most hardline coach about playing D in the NBA...by far....

Pop is just too honest about that stuff...and I know that sounds funny because his nickname is CIAPop...but he doesn't hide his scorn/disdain worth a flip.

[whottt]

:lol

old pops won 4 rings, done all hes done, and you guys will still find any little corner to shit on him.

Congrats Coyote Jr :tu


Hey dude Pop is the fucking man....


But he doesn't get a free pass for screwups that IMO, cost us a 5th title.



The funny thing is...Pop the GM is 10 times smarter than Pop the coach is...

I've never bashed his GM'ing....

But you have...everytime you rip RC.


His coaching, is, and remains, a work in progress.


FWIW...

Last year was his best coaching job IMO :tu

[MaNu4Tres]

Bill Curley for Sean Elliott? I think that was one of Pop's first moves.

[ata]

Isn't that what the Spurs have been doing the last two years? Hasn't worked yet.

...
Remember 2005/06: it was the year your belowed Nick Van Bust came in town. No showcasing for Beno. He has got few chances last year, he blew most of them...

Otherwise: waive him, there is a bunch of players (maybe not so talented) just waiting for that kind of opportunity

[Que Gee]

:lol Exactly.




Nah, I can't buy that. If another team actually offered anything, the Spurs would have shipped him out. The Clipper rumor was to match salaries and the Cleveland rumor would have happened by now if it had any legs.


The Clipps was legit. There are a couple teams interested in him. Though that was before he broke his finger...haven't heard anything since. (obviously for good reason)

[ChumpDumper]

Who cares about getting anything for this guy?

We won't get anything for this guy.

We don't need anything for this guy.

We need to be rid of this guy.

If Cleveland actually wants him, they'll take him off waivers.

[Mr. Body]

Beno Udrih = sunk cost

It's over. You don't lose potential value (D. Washington) because you're fretting about the dumb mistake you made before.

Don't compound it. Vaya con dios, Beno.

[ChumpDumper]

Exactly. The only thing keeping Beno in town right now is a guaranteed contract. Even if Washington wasn't in the picture, I'd be calling Mike Wilks right now.

[Bruno]

I'm not sure that cutting Beno to keep Washington while Spurs are over the luxury tax is a Holt compliant move.
I'm maybe wrong on that because Spurs have been less cheap than what I've expected numerous times.

Spurs can too waive Washington to sign him later in the season after a potential Beno trade. The risk that he signed with another nba team seems quite small.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not sure that cutting Beno to keep Washington while Spurs are over the luxury tax is a Holt compliant move.I agree, but hopefully Darius caught his eye.
Spurs can too waive Washington to sign him later in the season after a potential Beno trade. The risk that he signed with another nba team seems quite small.I guess. I'm to the point where I'd offer him to Cleveland for their trade exception and a future second rounder, then just waive him if they don't bite. I'm not even worried so much about Washington, though he has more upside than the other third string PGs I would want to sign to replace Beno.

[ploto]

The funniest thing of all is that given everything that has happened, the Spurs at this time last season still picked up Beno's option and gave him an extra year to the tune of almost $2M. They could have just let it be and he would be gone already, but one good pre-season game against Dallas and he was set for another year.

[ChumpDumper]

That is an indicator of how difficult it is to find a decent backup point guard in this league. He was the bird in hand.

[whottt]

I don't think the Spurs will have a problem waiving him...I mean it's not much different than if he rides the IR for the entire season...which is a likelyhood.


You guys think Holt enjoyed Beno talking shit in the Media?

Holt talks less shit than anyone...if anything would piss him off enough to make him forget his wallet...it's Beno's unwillingness to be a good soldier...


That's exactly the type of thing that would piss him off IMO.




Plus...can't some team claim him off waivers and if they do so, they are on the hook for the contract, instead of the Spurs?


Look at this way...they could always give him(Washington) the money they are scheduled to pay Williams...and his position is a bigger need than Williams.

[ChumpDumper]

Right, our best hope would be that the Cavs pick him off waivers using their trade exception.

We could even try to negotiate a slightly discounted buyout if his agent has something lined up overseas.

[Mr. Body]

Why the fears about waiving him? It's well established his basketball value is nil. It doesn't matter if he's on the team or not, you're still paying him. So jettison the dregs.

Whether signing another player, even for super cheap, in that roster space is the enormous cost, that's the question.

[whottt]

I don't see any enormous cost in signing Washington.....


I'll be amazed if Beno finishes this season with the Spurs....I'll also probably be pissed.

[Bruno]

Waiving Beno makes no sense at all if you don't sign another 3rd string PG. Even if Beno start to be a team cancer, it's better to do like Chicago did with Tim Thomas two years ago and tell Beno to stay at home than waiving him.

The cheapest solution for Spurs is to waive Williams and sign nobody as 15th player.
If Spurs keep Williams it will cost them $850K (maybe less if a part of Williams is guaranteed).
If Spurs keep Washington, it will cost them $1.2M.

[ata]

I don't see any enormous cost in signing Washington.....


I'll be amazed if Beno finishes this season with the Spurs....I'll also probably be pissed.
... and with another ring

[Mr. Body]

Waiving Beno makes no sense at all if you don't sign another 3rd string PG. Even if Beno start to be a team cancer, it's better to do like Chicago did with Tim Thomas two years ago and tell Beno to stay at home than waiving him.

Explain please. Chicago kept Thomas around to see if anyone wanted to trade for him, right? Or the outward possibility he might help out due to team injury or brain-transplant or whatever. Barring the unlikelihood that Beno could help better than a vet off the street, in case of injury (and after Vaughn, Manu, and Barry give it a shot), there evidently is no taker for Beno on the NBA market. What's the sense of keeping him over waiving him? The cost is the same, right?

[Bruno]

Explain please. Chicago kept Thomas around to see if anyone wanted to trade for him, right?

Right.
Even if Spurs don't want Beno to be with the team they can still trade him.
It can be in a move to go under the Luxury tax or pay less luxury tax with a trade like Beno + cash to pay his salary + some incentives (like cash or 2nd round pick) for a TE. It can too be in a move to get a talented player from a team that wants to rebuild and seeks expiring contracts to go under the cap next summer.

[urunobili]

Waive the shit out of him!

[Obstructed_View]

Don't throw good money after bad. In this case, don't let a prospect go just because you have a worthless player under contract.

I never understood how it isn't breach of contract when a guy signs to a big deal and then just stops putting forth any effort.

[angel_luv]

I'm going to wave at Beno today. :)

Pardon the interruption. Back to the thread.

[spurster]

One good preseason game by Darius and now he'll save us from Beno. Seems a little deperate to me. If the Spurs were to waive Beno, It would be more in the Spurs style to land a cheap vet rather than an untested rookie.

[ChumpDumper]

Seems a little deperate to me.I am desperate to get rid of Beno. I can only hope the Spurs are as well.
It would be more in the Spurs style to land a cheap vet rather than an untested rookie.We already have a vet, though he is less cheap than he used to be.

[Mr. Body]

One good preseason game by Darius and now he'll save us from Beno. Seems a little deperate to me.

Such are desperate times.

Beno is a threat and insult to what is good in humankind and the human heart. We hate him.

Darius Washington, on the other hand, is at least as good as Will Conroy or any other productive player from the development league. That's miles ahead of Beno at this point.

[SenorSpur]

Such are desperate times.

Beno is a threat and insult to what is good in humankind and the human heart. We hate him.

Darius Washington, on the other hand, is at least as good as Will Conroy or any other productive player from the development league. That's miles ahead of Beno at this point.

Exactly. And as I stated earlier. If he were playing in the WNBA, Beno would never come close to the stat line Washington produced last night.

Washington has displayed some level of talent and many of the intangibles that Beno doesn't have. And at least Washington is continuously trying to improve his game. What the fuck has Beno done to develop since he's been here?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I worship Pop, this is everyone's fault but his

[SRJ]

And now, a totally stupid song parody for a totally stupid parody of a professional basketball player:

A small white puss
once played the backcourt
and Beno was his name-o

He's short and fat
loves tacos Y chicas
but never works on his game-o

He scrapes his shin
and sits out six weeks
and everyone else is to blame-o

Be-no, fuck you, go!
Do not let the do'
knock you to the flo'
good-bye, your act is lame-o!

[SenorSpur]

And now, a totally stupid song parody for a totally stupid parody of a professional basketball player:

A small white puss
once played the backcourt
and Beno was his name-o

He's short and fat
loves tacos Y chicas
but never works on his game-o

He scrapes his shin
and sits out six weeks
and everyone else is to blame-o

Be-no, fuck you, go!
Do not let the do'
knock you to the flo'
good-bye, your act is lame-o!

Perhaps I missed this, but has Beno been a notorious regular at both the Taco Cabana and popular S.A night spots during his time in the city?

[K-State Spur]

Why the fears about waiving him? It's well established his basketball value is nil. It doesn't matter if he's on the team or not, you're still paying him. So jettison the dregs.

Whether signing another player, even for super cheap, in that roster space is the enormous cost, that's the question.

A very small percentage of the population (and this includes NBA GMs and Owners) fully understand - and knows how to work with - the accounting concept of "SUNK COSTS ARE SUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[nkdlunch]

waive him and throw him out the door like the fresh prince

[Rummpd]

I am going to take the contrarian view. Beno for his faults has talents that some other NBA basketball players don't have - he is a pure passer and has a fine motion on his shots, and when, he was the 2nd point guard in the past put up pretty good numbers.

There was a comment on air during the playoffs that Beno would start for many teams, and although, that is highly argueable, he would I believe in the right system (and with renewed confidence) he could be a valuable player.

What the Spurs should have done was trade him. I believe that is still the plan rather than waiving him.

[hater]

I am going to take the contrarian view. Beno for his faults has talents that some other NBA basketball players don't have - he is a pure passer and has a fine motion on his shots, and when, he was the 2nd point guard in the past put up pretty good numbers.

There was a comment on air during the playoffs that Beno would start for many teams, and although, that is highly argueable, he would I believe in the right system (and with renewed confidence) he could be a valuable player.

What the Spurs should have done was trade him. I believe that is still the plan rather than waiving him.

that must be some fine crack you're smoking

my shot and pass look good too, does that mean I belong in the NBA? truth is Beno does not belong in an NBA court because he cannot even dribble the ball upcourt when opponent presses.

[T Park]

I am going to take the contrarian view. Beno for his faults has talents that some other NBA basketball players don't have - he is a pure passer and has a fine motion on his shots, and when, he was the 2nd point guard in the past put up pretty good numbers.

There was a comment on air during the playoffs that Beno would start for many teams, and although, that is highly argueable, he would I believe in the right system (and with renewed confidence) he could be a valuable player.

What the Spurs should have done was trade him. I believe that is still the plan rather than waiving him.


I think the good Doc is sampling his free stash of vicodin.

[Spurs Brazil]

Beno sucks

I hope the Spurs waive him

[Obstructed_View]

One good preseason game by Darius and now he'll save us from Beno. Seems a little deperate to me. If the Spurs were to waive Beno, It would be more in the Spurs style to land a cheap vet rather than an untested rookie.
A guy in decent shape with some talent and some desire to play is a definite step up, and more than anyone can reasonably expect from Beno at this point.

What the Spurs should have done was not re-sign him, since we haven't learned anything new about him that we didn't know then. It's time to own up to the mistake. If someone won't offer the bare minimum to take him then it's time to put him on the street and consider his contract the price of a roster spot and some peace of mind.

[whottt]

I am going to take the contrarian view. Beno for his faults has talents that some other NBA basketball players don't have - he is a pure passer and has a fine motion on his shots, and when, he was the 2nd point guard in the past put up pretty good numbers.

There was a comment on air during the playoffs that Beno would start for many teams, and although, that is highly argueable, he would I believe in the right system (and with renewed confidence) he could be a valuable player.

What the Spurs should have done was trade him. I believe that is still the plan rather than waiving him.



Did you miss Beno complaining during his interviews?

Beno's a cancer....


I have a feeling you missed that part of the summer.

[Bruno]

What the Spurs should have done was trade him. I believe that is still the plan rather than waiving him.

I quite agree with that.
I think too that Beno isn't that bad as 3rd string PG.
The 3rd string PG is a player who will spend the whole year on the IL.
If Parker or Vaughn is injured or suspended during the playoffs, I don't think a player like Washington will do a better job than Beno.
I don't see Spurs waiving Beno to sign Washington unless they think that Washington is a very good prospect and has enough upside to be Spurs backup PG (over Vaughn) in 08-09.

[hater]

I quite agree with that.
I think too that Beno isn't that bad as 3rd string PG.
The 3rd string PG is a player who will spend the whole year on the IL.
If Parker or Vaughn is injured or suspended during the playoffs, I don't think a player like Washington will do a better job than Beno.
I don't see Spurs waiving Beno to sign Washington unless they think that Washington is a very good prospect and has enough upside to be Spurs backup PG (over Vaughn) in 08-09.

except that Beno was SUPPOSED to be our 2nd string PG. But he is a bitch so he screwed that project up. And we have Vaughn who I would not consider a 2nd string PG at all. Vaugh is a 3rd string PG at best.

So what we have right now is a 3rd string PG as our 2nd PG and a piece of shit as our 3rd PG

and the Spurs tried to trade Beno countless of times. But nobody wants him. NOBODY

[Bruno]

And we have Vaughn who I would not consider a 2nd string PG at all. Vaugh is a 3rd string PG at best.


Vaughn has been a 2nd string PG these last 7 years.

[T Park]

I don't think a player like Washington will do a better job than Beno.

Your nuts...

[Bruno]

Your nuts...

No, your hate for Beno makes you lost your objectivity.

[nkdlunch]

No, your hate for Beno makes you lost your objectivity.

Beno has had more 2nd chances than any other Spur in history and failed miserably, Beno has terrible work habits and he has said some terrible things to the media. And to top it off, Beno still acts like he deserves more minutes. After all that, you blame the fans for hatin on Beno???

any self-respecting Spur fan has all the right to hate on Beno. Actually I am wondering if you are a real Spur fan

[hater]

Beno is the Slovenian Kwame Brown

[ShoogarBear]

Beno is the Slovenian Kwame Brown:lol

[SenorSpur]

Beno has had more 2nd chances than any other Spur in history and failed miserably, Beno has terrible work habits and he has said some terrible things to the media. And to top it off, Beno still acts like he deserves more minutes. After all that, you blame the fans for hatin on Beno???

any self-respecting Spur fan has all the right to hate on Beno. Actually I am wondering if you are a real Spur fan

What types of things has he said to the media?

[ElNono]

Just saw this ad in the for sale section of the newspaper:
"Seldom used PG. Played with Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker. Will trade for non-guaranteed second round draft pick, OBO. Contact R.C.: (xxx) xxx-xxxx

[duncan228]

What types of things has he said to the media?

Try here:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75782&highlight=beno+udrih+interview

And here, video interview, bottom right of page.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/teams/team.asp?TEAM_ID=19

You were warned...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Beno is the Slovenian Kwame Brown
:lol

[LaMarcus Bryant]

To look at it in another perspective, try to imagine you know nothing about the Spurs.

Now...would you want us to have a point guard named "Beno" or a point guard named "Darius"

His name alone gives him strength beyond strength. If these news articles are not homering at a bloadage pace, odds are this guy will be in the league longer than Beno. If we let him slip through our hands and lose an opportunity to develop a promising role player it will be yet another nitch in the belt of those squandering Duncan's Prime for monetary purposes. Yeah yeah I know, Duncan's prime hasn't been exactly squandered, but when you have the chance to run the table year in and year out, why not fucking go for it? The extra tickets, media, memorabilia, etc from 1 extra championship would surely outweigh Beno's lame ass contract, wouldn't it?


It's been mentioned but I feel it still has not received enough attention:
passion.

And this guy has it. That alone will lift you to higher and higher levels of accomplishment, in any field or sphere known to man.

Beno does not have this.


We're beginning our fourth year with this loser.
FOUR
YEARS

[ploto]

Now...would you want us to have a point guard named "Beno" or a point guard named "Darius"

That is stereotypical and offends two racial groups at once

[LaMarcus Bryant]

That is stereotypical and offends two racial groups at once


Stereotypical yes, racist no. Darius is a name of kings. It invokes an aura of power.

When I hear the name "Beno" for the rest of my life I will think of a sloth, non productive disappointment. Call me out but that's the reality.

[coopdogg3]

Stereotypical yes, racist no. Darius is a name of kings. It invokes an aura of power.

When I hear the name "Beno" for the rest of my life I will think of a sloth, non productive disappointment. Call me out but that's the reality.


I guess. But the 2 King Darius that I know off the top of my head got their butts kicked by the Greeks. So I guess we need to go get a Greek point guard. Oh wait, we let him go.

[whottt]

When I hear the name "Beno" for the rest of my life I will think of a sloth, non productive disappointment. Call me out but that's the reality.


PWNT


I won't even think of gas anymore when I think of Beno...it's an insult to gas.

[Holt's Cat]

Beno Udrih refuses to run because his finger is hurt.

David Robinson played years with a broken back.

[Holt's Cat]

Radosoft once cut off his dick with a chainsaw in the mountains of Slovenia and played a whole season without painkillers. True story.

[T Park]

Radosoft once cut off his dick with a chainsaw in the mountains of Slovenia and played a whole season without painkillers. True story.

:lol

Ya know we make fun of Rasho, but in game 6 against the Lakers, he severely sprained his ankle, and CAME BACK.

He played on a bad ankle.

If anything else he had more guts than his fellow countryman.

[Bruno]

After all that, you blame the fans for hatin on Beno???


:rolleyes
I didn't blame fans for hating Beno.

[Mr. Body]

Rasho was a boisterous, lusty, hearty lumberjack compared to weeny, preening Beno.

[Bruno]

It's too far from sure sure that Spurs want to get ride of Beno like most Spurstalkers want.

Last February, Ludden had reported that even if Beno was on the trading block, Spurs weren't looking at dumping him. Pop called Beno a "great insurance policy" as 3rd string PG.

Spurs could still think the same thing. The only event that could have changed their though is Beno's interview this summer. However, I think that Spurs don't give a fuck about it as long as Beno hasn't a bad attitude in practice or in the locker room. There hasn't had a single report suggesting that Beno was a cancer.

Spurs staff could just be fine with Beno as 3rd string PG and is likely as desperate as fans to dump Beno.

[hsxvvd]

It is clear that there is no interest in Beno around the league.

We gave up Scola to get rid of Butler, what would or could be thrown into a deal to sweaten it up for teams around the league to take Beno off our hands and allow us to sign up Washington. A 2nd rounder? 1st? Another Euro we've stashed away?

In short, What would YOU give up to get rid of Beno?

[Mr. Body]

It is clear that there is no interest in Beno around the league.

We gave up Scola to get rid of Butler, what would or could be thrown into a deal to sweaten it up for teams around the league to take Beno off our hands and allow us to sign up Washington. A 2nd rounder? 1st? Another Euro we've stashed away?

In short, What would YOU give up to get rid of Beno?

I believe it would take a second rounder, and the Spurs won't do it. None of this, 'trade Beno to so-and-so for an exception + a second'. No one thinks Beno is worth that anymore. He's just lousy, and there are third stringer types to be hired from developmental leagues better than him. That he couldn't play in the preseason because of a measly broken finger is icing on the cake. He's a shit sandwich. He's OUR shit sandwich.

[TDMVPDPOY]

how can you trade away a guy who is full of win?

trading beno away will hurt us more than the pistons trading away the victory cigar, that explains why they havnt gone back to the finals since that one hit wonder...

[MannyIsGod]

It's too far from sure sure that Spurs want to get ride of Beno like most Spurstalkers want.

Last February, Ludden had reported that even if Beno was on the trading block, Spurs weren't looking at dumping him. Pop called Beno a "great insurance policy" as 3rd string PG.

Spurs could still think the same thing. The only event that could have changed their though is Beno's interview this summer. However, I think that Spurs don't give a fuck about it as long as Beno hasn't a bad attitude in practice or in the locker room. There hasn't had a single report suggesting that Beno was a cancer.

Spurs staff could just be fine with Beno as 3rd string PG and is likely as desperate as fans to dump Beno.I pretty much agree with all of that. I hate the guy, but te reality is that he's not bad if you consider him a 3rd string pg and the bill has to be paid either way so you might as well keep him.

[Mr. Body]

I pretty much agree with all of that. I hate the guy, but te reality is that he's not bad if you consider him a 3rd string pg and the bill has to be paid either way so you might as well keep him.

The second part is nonsense: "We already bought this milk. Even if it's spoiled we might as well use it for dinner."

The first part is the issue. Beno isn't going to be anything more than he is, which is a third stringer. For a third stringer he was okay last year, although his production, if you call it that, came in blowouts.

Next year he likely isn't on the roster. The question then is, how much do we expect to pay for a replacement? Vaughn doen't have much time left. Do we think Washington is a future primary backup? If so, waive Beno or Williams, keep him on. The cost rises rapidly if you don't.

My guess, though, is that the team doesn't see Washington as a future primary backup.

[Darkwaters]

My guess, though, is that the team doesn't see Washington as a future primary backup.

Thats probably the best guess right now.

[remingtonbo2001]

I think I brought this up before, but is possible to sign and put forth a petition to release Beno? Surely we can find someone on this board who put it in the right hands.

COUGH...COUGH...Kori?

10,000 signitures would be a piece of cake. I want him cut, you want him cut. The entire city of San Antonio wants him cut. Let's make it happen.

[BeerIsGood!]

I think I brought this up before, but is possible to sign and put forth a petition to release Beno? Surely we can find someone on this board who put it in the right hands.

COUGH...COUGH...Kori?

10,000 signitures would be a piece of cake. I want him cut, you want him cut. The entire city of San Antonio wants him cut. Let's make it happen.

If the team made decisions based on what the fans want this team would be still looking for a 1st championship. You and I have no pull whatsoever, so relax, sit back and watch and feel free to bitch as loudly as you like.

[SenorSpur]

Why the hell not?

I watched a recording of Game 5 of the 2005 WCF between Spurs and Suns. During the game, Beno was the backup PG. He did a fairly admirable job and for once looked as though he knew what he was supposed to be doing. He hit some wide open 3s, made some nice passes, etc. Of course, we all rememeber how the Pistons virtually undressed him during NBA Finals.

My point in bringing this up is that, seeing how he's regressed, it's hard to remember that he was actually functional and servicable and one time.

I'm surprised the Spurs didn't unload his ass to Houston as part of the Scola deal. After watching Clevelands pathetic PG situation in the NBA finals, it's hard to believe they wouldn't be interested.

[Mr. Body]

After watching Clevelands pathetic PG situation in the NBA finals, it's hard to believe they wouldn't be interested.

Really, Beno would just add to the pathetic quotient of Cleveland's point guards.

[Darkwaters]

Really, Beno would just add to the pathetic quotient of Cleveland's point guards.

It's not like they have the roster room anyways.

[Mr. Body]

It's not like they have the roster room anyways.

Seriously. They have about 4-5 terrible point guards, depending on the Boobie.

People need to extinguish the idea that any team wants a loser like Beno Udrih. The Spurs would have to include full cash and a second round pick to get rid of him.

[Darkwaters]

What about trading him to the Pacers? They are down to 14 players now, are looking to rebuild, and play the constantly hurt Jamaal Tinsley and Travis Diener at PG with their 3rd string being Orien Greene...a fringe NBA player at best.

[Taco]

i wonder if houston would give us scola for beno
:lol

[Reggie Miller]

What about trading him to the Pacers? They are down to 14 players now, are looking to rebuild, and play the constantly hurt Jamaal Tinsley and Travis Diener at PG with their 3rd string being Orien Greene...a fringe NBA player at best.


Sarunas Jasikevicius didn't work out for the Pacers, and he has about four-five times the skill and drive of Beno. Even Larry Bird isn't dumb enough to want Beno.

[pad300]

What about trading him to the Pacers? They are down to 14 players now, are looking to rebuild, and play the constantly hurt Jamaal Tinsley and Travis Diener at PG with their 3rd string being Orien Greene...a fringe NBA player at best.

Another possibility might be Boston. Their PG situation blows - Rajon Rondo is their lead (and is blatantly untested, if somewhat promising), and Eddie House is the backup...

[Que Gee]

He's not going to get waived and thats for sure.

I'd be surprised though if he isn't traded by the end of November.