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MajorMike
10-23-2007, 02:34 PM
Never thought I'd see that happen.

The SI Top 10 writeups are pretty funny, as well.

SI Power Rankings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/stewart_mandel/10/23/power.rankings9/index.html?eref=T1)

#6 uo
Oklahoma Sooners (7-1)
Did nobody notice just how badly the Sooners struggled at 1-7 Iowa State last Saturday? OU trailed 7-0 at the half (against a team that lost 56-3 to Texas a week earlier) and didn't seal the outcome until the final two minutes. The defense and running game ultimately saved them.

#10 KU
Kansas Jayhawks (7-0)
Here's a crazy stat for you: The Jayhawks are the first Big 12 North team in five years to start conference play 3-0. If they're as good as this ranking indicates, they should have little trouble reaching 4-0 this week when they visit America's most deceiving 6-2 team, Texas A&M.

#11
Missouri Tigers (6-1)
The typical, midseason slide Gary Pinkel's teams have suffered in the past? Not only did the Tigers prevent it from happening this time, they instead went and destroyed 6-1 Texas Tech, picking off QB Graham Harrell four times and sacking him thrice. That's some pretty good defense.

#15
Texas Longhorns (6-2)
Recognize this formula? Lose one early, lose to Oklahoma ... then start beating up on the Big 12's weaklings week after week. First it was Iowa State, then Baylor. Next up on the chopping block? Nebraska (4-4), whose flailing defense is ripe for some sort of record-setting Colt McCoy day.

#25
Kansas State Wildcats (4-3)
Am I thrilled about keeping a 4-3 team in the rankings? Hardly. But I looked far and wide and could not find a more deserving team than the Wildcats, which have not only beaten top-15 Texas but have endured three last-minute losses to foes with a combined 17-6 record. Not exactly heinous.

#28
Texas Tech (6-2)
Mizzou coach Gary Pinkel said he never felt entirely safe during his team's 41-10 rout of Texas Tech on Saturday, because you have to be "scared of death" of the quick-strike ability of the Red Raiders' offense. Still, what the Tigers' defense accomplished was impressive: they were the first D to hold Red Raiders quarterback Graham Harrell under three touchdowns in a game this season (he had one) -- and they picked him off three times. Harrell also failed to break the 400-yard mark for only the second time in 2007. He still has 32 touchdown passes on the season, but his TD-to-INT ratio, which stood at 10.3-to-1 coming into the weekend, is now just 4.6-to-1.

#36
Oklahoma St. (5-3)

#41
Texas A&M (6-2)

#50
Colorado (4-4)

#65
Nebraska (4-4)
At least something positive happened in Lincoln on Saturday. Hours before the Huskers' 36-14 loss to unranked Oklahoma State, new athletic director and longtime state hero Tom Osborne addressed a group of 300 fans and boosters at the school's student union. His remarks, even if they didn't include an explicit statement of intent to fire struggling coach Bill Callahan, seemed to placate the crowd. Nebraska alum Bill Poehling told USA Today, "Everything is going to be better. I'm convinced it's going to be better. I'm just thrilled [Osborne] decided to take this. ... There's no one that can do what Tom can do."

#85
Baylor (3-5)

#99
Iowa St. (1-7)

Thunder Dan
10-23-2007, 02:35 PM
you are so jealous right now arn't you?

NoMoneyDown
10-23-2007, 02:56 PM
This whole season has been crazy. It's as if no one wants to be in the top-10 with all the upsets by unranked teams. Probably shows how level the playing field has been this year across the board compared to other years. And, if nothing else, shows why there needs to be a PO system (please, no more threads about this). I am willing to bet the rest of the season will be filled with more "upsets" and all-around strangeness. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me in the least now if KU and Hawaii turn out to be the only unbeatens left (improbable, but definitely not impossible the way this season has been).

K-State Spur
10-23-2007, 03:20 PM
it had actually happened not epically long ago. they peaked as high as #6 for a week in 1995.

in fact, during the glen mason era, they used some favorable schedules to get off to a few decent starts and rankings.

it's the terry allen + first 5 years of mangino that have earned them the rotten label.

RonMexico
10-24-2007, 01:16 PM
You only find the comments funny because he rips on A&M. You ignore his blatant factual errors (i.e. Harrell was picked off 4 times and not 3, as noted in his Tech piece and it was A&M that beat Nebraska 36-14 NOT Oklahoma State). These are simple facts that discredit his entire piece.

SrA Husker
10-24-2007, 01:37 PM
it had actually happened not epically long ago. they peaked as high as #6 for a week in 1995.

in fact, during the glen mason era, they used some favorable schedules to get off to a few decent starts and rankings.

it's the terry allen + first 5 years of mangino that have earned them the rotten label.

The Big 8 in 1995 was crazy loaded.

From the Final AP/USA Today Poll (respectively)...

1/1. Nebraska
5/4. Colorado
7/6. Kansas State
9/11. Kansas


A testament to just how good the 1995 team was comes from the final polls, where Nebraska beat 4 different teams that finished in the *final* Top 10 rankings... of which the closest margin in those four games was 3 touchdowns.

K-State Spur
10-24-2007, 01:47 PM
True. Some of the South fans have forgotten - or are too young - to remember that the balance of power laid in the North for the early years of the conference.

MajorMike
10-24-2007, 04:50 PM
True. Some of the South fans have forgotten - or are too young - to remember that the balance of power laid in the North for the early years of the conference.

Uh.... except that UT won the 1st B12 Championship game and atm won the 3rd, and even tho it was not until 2000 (and every year since) that a South team finished ahead of the north in the polls, the north has never had a lead head-to-head in the B12 game. And up until 2001 the only team that from the north that had ever been in a BCS game was Nebraska.

K-State Spur
10-24-2007, 05:09 PM
The championship is nice, but it's not always indicative of which division was stronger (will you say that the North was better in 2003 when KSU beat OU, even though the South went 12-6 against the North that year?).

Texas played a whale of a game against UNL in 1996 as did A&M against KSU in 1998. But all-in-all those were games that would have gone the other way 80% of the time.

In 1996, Texas was only the 4th best team in the conference over the course of the season.

In 96 - the North went 12-6 against the South
In 97 - the North went 12-6 against the South
In 98 - the North went 9-9 against the South
In 99 - the North went 9-9 against the South
In 00 - the North went 9-9 against the South
In 01 - the North went 10-8 against the South

Clearly in the North's favor in the early years, then we saw some balance, with the South not winning the head to head until 2002.

Obviously, since then it has been a slaughter.

dallaskd
10-24-2007, 05:28 PM
ehh at least someone is reppin kansas.

Holt's Cat
10-24-2007, 06:15 PM
They won't be after this weekend.

MajorMike
10-24-2007, 07:38 PM
In 96 - the North went 12-6 against the South
In 97 - the North went 12-6 against the South
In 98 - the North went 9-9 against the South
In 99 - the North went 9-9 against the South
In 00 - the North went 9-9 against the South
In 01 - the North went 10-8 against the South

Clearly in the North's favor in the early years, then we saw some balance, with the South not winning the head to head until 2002.

Obviously, since then it has been a slaughter.

Not completely true. The head-to-head doesn't take into account the B12 game. That would mean the South won it's first head-to-head the year they won their 2nd B12 Championship.

Even in those 6 years listed, the B12 Champion was split 3-3.

K-State Spur
10-25-2007, 12:59 AM
actually, the big 12 championship plit stayed .500 until 2004. but most south fans would say that the south's dominance began earlier than that.

RonMexico
10-25-2007, 01:19 PM
Not completely true. The head-to-head doesn't take into account the B12 game. That would mean the South won it's first head-to-head the year they won their 2nd B12 Championship.

Even in those 6 years listed, the B12 Champion was split 3-3.

You are such a fucking douchebag. K-State Spur specifically said that he was excluding the B12 championship game because the winner can skew the perception of which is the "better" division.

Therefore, he used regular season records of North vs. South to better identify the parity between divisions for the first few years. If KU makes it to the B12 title game undefeated by playing a weak schedule does that mean they are the "best" of the North? No, it just means they got lucky and won more cake games than the other teams.

CaptMike will never admit when he is wrong, even though he clearly is again in this case... and his posts are incredibly contradictory from thread to thread.

Here is one rule that will hold true for the lifetime of this board: CaptMike will always find some ridiculous (and perhaps, inaccurate) way to rip on A&M... that is a fact.

Thunder Dan
10-25-2007, 01:49 PM
You are such a fucking douchebag. K-State Spur specifically said that he was excluding the B12 championship game because the winner can skew the perception of which is the "better" division.

Therefore, he used regular season records of North vs. South to better identify the parity between divisions for the first few years. If KU makes it to the B12 title game undefeated by playing a weak schedule does that mean they are the "best" of the North? No, it just means they got lucky and won more cake games than the other teams.

CaptMike will never admit when he is wrong, even though he clearly is again in this case... and his posts are incredibly contradictory from thread to thread.

Here is one rule that will hold true for the lifetime of this board: CaptMike will always find some ridiculous (and perhaps, inaccurate) way to rip on A&M... that is a fact.

lol I like how no matter where Capt. Mike posts you always find a way to come in and bust his balls haha :lol

degenerate_gambler
10-25-2007, 02:36 PM
lol I like how no matter where Capt. Mike posts you always find a way to come in and bust his balls haha :lol


their's is a special relationship...

MajorMike
10-25-2007, 04:51 PM
I've had little ronnie on ignore for a little over a year. He serves no purpose in the college forum other than following me around trying to make himself look cool. He was the inspiration for one of the guys' quotes in my sig. I mean, seriously, he's a lifeterm wannabe - a Suns fan and an atm fan - always 2nd fiddle.

RonMexico
10-25-2007, 05:36 PM
I've had little ronnie on ignore for a little over a year. He serves no purpose in the college forum other than following me around trying to make himself look cool. He was the inspiration for one of the guys' quotes in my sig. I mean, seriously, he's a lifeterm wannabe - a Suns fan and an atm fan - always 2nd fiddle.

1st round of NIT... at home... Marist... Loss.

How's JamesOn Curry's "wannabe" career shaping up?

Get off of World of Warcraft, get a real life and start owning up to your contradictory stupidity. You serve no greater purpose except to laugh at A&M's expense on a weekly basis.

leemajors
10-25-2007, 07:19 PM
lol I like how no matter where Capt. Mike posts you always find a way to come in and bust his balls haha :lol
i don't know if ron is open to mutual masturbation, he's pretty focused on the cap'n.