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monosylab1k
11-02-2007, 10:35 PM
I'm going to hear all the "this is the second game of the regular season" and "we started 0-4 last year" and "Josh Howard didn't play" and "you're not a real Mavs fan if you don't wave your pom-poms at all times" all that other bullshit for what I'm about to say, but screw it I'm gonna say it anyways.

This game tonight proved to me that the Mavericks have not learned ONE FUCKING THING from last season.

*They got blown away by a more athletic team that likes to run.

*Their "defensive specialists" did dick on defense and even less on offense.

*Avery still lets Stackhouse run wild regardless of the fact that he obviously is not feeling it with his shot. If he's going to brick everything he throws up there, why the hell doesn't he just take him out and see what Ager's got? It can't be any worse.

*Dirk blew it in crunch time.

I have no doubt that this team will win 55+ games and make the playoffs easily. But to see them not learn ANYTHING this offseason and immediately shit the bed against a more athletic team right off the bat really pisses me off.

GET KOBE THE FUCK TO DALLAS RIGHT NOW CUBAN!

J.T.
11-02-2007, 10:36 PM
The Hawks were just beating a team they were supposed to beat, no surprises here.

mardigan
11-02-2007, 10:37 PM
The Hawks where playing without both of their centers as well.

dirk4mvp
11-02-2007, 10:38 PM
Didn't Cuban say Kobe to Dallas isn't happening?

ducks
11-02-2007, 10:39 PM
Toronto 106
New Jersey 69

Greg Oden
11-02-2007, 10:40 PM
Toronto 106
New Jersey 69

My nuts-1
your mouth-0

monosylab1k
11-02-2007, 10:40 PM
Didn't Cuban say Kobe to Dallas isn't happening?
yeah but he really can't say "We're trying to trade for him" right at the start of the season and piss off the guys on the team.

I think they're secretly still trying to get him, but they're hoping the Lakers get desperate and trade him away for less than what the demands are right now.

Dirkgreatness
11-02-2007, 10:44 PM
lmao, you're overreacting.

ducks
11-02-2007, 10:44 PM
My nuts-1
your mouth-0
greg oden you play for the blazers not sonics
change your team name

Shank
11-02-2007, 10:46 PM
J.T. already nailed it.

Thread closed.

Shank
11-02-2007, 10:46 PM
The Hawks where playing without both of their centers as well.

Horford looked like a nice problem to have in the middle, though.

ShoogarBear
11-02-2007, 11:54 PM
Ell Ohh Ell #2

For one night anyway, the West doesn't look like it's going to be so hard after all.

ludda
11-02-2007, 11:58 PM
dude if anyone should be overreacting after the second game of the season, it would be the sons after their slaughter tonight. I watched the mavs hawks game and it was a good game (the mavs lost) but besides nowitzki choking a free throw at the end, he took it to the basket more. And it was only him and terry, your scrubby vets had a nice brickfest though.

mavsfan1000
11-03-2007, 12:00 AM
Fucking dumbass. The mavs were without Howard, Dampier, and Harris for most of the game.

monosylab1k
11-03-2007, 12:25 AM
Fucking dumbass. The mavs were without Howard, Dampier, and Harris for most of the game.
I'm not the least bit interested in hearing the opinions of an idiot who tries to diminish Michael Finley's contributions with the Mavericks.

mavs>spurs2
11-03-2007, 12:49 AM
I'm not the least bit interested in hearing the opinions of an idiot who tries to diminish Michael Finley's contributions with the Mavericks.
:lmao

Spawn
11-03-2007, 01:00 AM
Well Mavs fans should be happy that you have no pull with the team. I thought you said that you were not going to be as intrested in the season this year and that it meant close to nothing until playoff time nears and yet you are willing to knee-jerk like this so early in the season. What gives?

monosylab1k
11-03-2007, 01:10 AM
Well Mavs fans should be happy that you have no pull with the team. I thought you said that you were not going to be as intrested in the season this year and that it meant close to nothing until playoff time nears and yet you are willing to knee-jerk like this so early in the season. What gives?
It was either this or porn.

Purple & Gold
11-03-2007, 01:12 AM
Atlanta will make the playoffs and the Suns pick will go down the toilet . :lol :lol

SpursIndonesia
11-03-2007, 01:41 AM
LOL, perhaps playoff is still a bit out of reach for these Hawks this yr, but i certainly wouldn't mind to see them finishing as no 17 on the standing. :D

mavsfan1000
11-03-2007, 01:47 AM
I'm not the least bit interested in hearing the opinions of an idiot who tries to diminish Michael Finley's contributions with the Mavericks.
I did no such thing you prick. I just said it how it was.

Spawn
11-03-2007, 02:23 AM
It was either this or porn.

Ahh I see. My Bulls are 0-2 so Phatty Girls daddy's a cummin!!!

Dirk Nowitzki
11-03-2007, 02:27 AM
:madrun :madrun :madrun WOW! Guys settle down. The Mavs are fine. This team is so fucking good that it is downright scary. I am for one not worried. New year MUCH better team. Im fucking confident in this team. Bring on the Kings! :clap :clap :clap :hungry: :hungry: :hungry:

SAtown
11-03-2007, 02:56 AM
:madrun :madrun :madrun WOW! Guys settle down. The Mavs are fine. This team is so fucking good that it is downright scary. I am for one not worried. New year MUCH better team. Im fucking confident in this team. Bring on the Kings! :clap :clap :clap :hungry: :hungry: :hungry:

:lmao

Dalhoop
11-03-2007, 08:47 AM
I saw a lot of things in this game to be optimistic about. Yes, this team did play like GS and like GS our side players didn't do much but look at who the stars of the game were for the Mavs.

Diop - The Man is playing big minutes and staying out of foul trouble and effecting every shot in the paint.

Bass - I supposed you didn't like the D he applied on that last play? Of course your only going to look at the score, the Man is a stud and when he gets his groove (This is his first year playing real minutes) he will only improve.

JJB - only saw two PG's on the floor all game long, and them both were in Mav uniformes. Your back-up PG comes into the game after Harris got injured and shreads whatever defense was before him, but all you see is the final score?

Jones and Hassell wore a Johnson suit all game long and all you can see is the final score and box score. The man was shooting lights out, but it was not because he was getting open looks like in the GS series, he was making pressure shots with hands all over him.

For the second game in a row Dirk attacked the basket with a smaller defender on him and shot the long ball (which is why he is such a special player) his shot wasn't falling, but that was his fault as he was getting open looks. The entire Mavs team was getting open looks and missing from long range, how often does that happen.

Its one thing to be run off the floor, its another entirely to scrap to the point of winning without key players, Atlanta has improved, but their record aganist the top teams in the league held up, they were giant killers last year and are starting the same this year.

td4mvp3
11-03-2007, 09:21 AM
Fucking dumbass. The mavs were without Howard, Dampier, and Harris for most of the game.
howard i give you, dampier is dubious, but harris was still in the game when the hawks built their lead.

picnroll
11-03-2007, 10:17 AM
Hawks are going to be a good team and they're going to surprise a lot of people by beating other good teams fairly often. That is until people realize they are a good team. Law comes along and they'll be real tough. They're the kind of team that gives Dallas problems, long and athletic, just like GS was.

thispego
11-03-2007, 10:50 AM
the mavs are weakk i saiddd

Findog
11-03-2007, 12:37 PM
I'm out of town until Monday and didn't get to see it. I'm going to miss the Colts-Pats as well. From reading the recap, it sounds like the Hawks were really up for this game and our guys weren't. That's how it usually goes, people probably think they're playing the same old Hawks. San Antonio struggled to beat Memphis on the road, and we were missing 3 regulars in our rotation.

Mavs made their bed and have to sleep in it: Win, and people just say they have to wait until May to prove something. Lose, and it's further proof of every critical assessment ever made of this team. We weren't going 82-0. Hearing that the Suns got curbstomped by a bad Faker team and Mustache Man was complaining about Jackzen calling a timeout takes the piss out of this loss. Misery loves company.

monosylab1k
11-03-2007, 03:46 PM
If this was a loss to Utah or hell even Portland, I wouldn't be pissed. I'd completely shrug it off as no big deal.

It's because of the fact that this was a loss to a team that basically copied the Golden State strategy and we still couldn't do shit to stop it.

0-1 vs. athletic, running teams. That's the only regular season record I'm interested in for Dallas this year.

mavsfan1000
11-03-2007, 05:08 PM
If this was a loss to Utah or hell even Portland, I wouldn't be pissed. I'd completely shrug it off as no big deal.

It's because of the fact that this was a loss to a team that basically copied the Golden State strategy and we still couldn't do shit to stop it.

0-1 vs. athletic, running teams. That's the only regular season record I'm interested in for Dallas this year.
Alright you got a point there but still we need Harris and Howard to beat these running teams. Stackhouse sucks against running teams I've noticed as well. Eddie Jones was even worse. I'm pretty sure Howard could've done better if he was playing. Unlike those 2 I assume Howard would do better against running teams.

exstatic
11-03-2007, 10:02 PM
Positive takeaway #1: ATL won't be in the WC playoff bracket, guaranteed. :lol

Positive takeaway #2: At least Dallas was in the game. PHO got hammer fucked by a bad team on their home court.

monosylab1k
11-03-2007, 11:21 PM
you are a spursdick sucking idiot. im glad you are one of those "mav fans" chooses a non mav board to be a fag.
that's because actual mavs boards suck dick since faggots like you post there.

dirk4mvp
11-03-2007, 11:28 PM
Mavtalk rules !

mavsfan1000
11-03-2007, 11:42 PM
Mavtalk rules !
http://dallas-mavs.com/ is the best mavs site.

remingtonbo2001
11-04-2007, 08:42 PM
http://dallas-mavs.com/ is the best mavs site.

It's appearance is kinda boring. It needs a little FLAIR. Why not put a 2006 Western Conference Banner up top.

ShoogarBear
11-04-2007, 09:06 PM
Mavtalk rules !It's blue italics.

dirk4mvp
11-04-2007, 09:14 PM
It's blue italics.


I phail. The effort that counts though, right? :smokin

And1Mak
11-04-2007, 09:24 PM
dallasbasketball.com 4 life.

monosylab1k
11-26-2007, 10:56 PM
Blown away by another run n' gun team. I dread what will happen when they play Phoenix. I fully expect a 35 point blowout.

Dirk has redefined the term "pussy" as well. He set the standard last year for all basketball pussies, and now he's raising the bar.

Findog
11-27-2007, 02:52 PM
Eddie Jones, Devean George, Juwan Howard, Jerry Stackhouse. Four guys drawing social security and stealing four roster spots. Dirk at Center over Diop and Dampier. Layup line for the other team. Am I justified in starting to believe that this run at the elite level could be over a lot sooner than people think? It sure was genius giving Stackhouse a 3-year deal when by all indications he looks done. Who the fuck would want his contract? Or Dampier, if he's going to totally suck for 11 minutes a night at $10 million per instead of being mediocre for 30 minutes a night? And are the guys tuning Avery out? How the fuck are we even 9-5? We're two improbable comebacks against Houston and Toronto from being .500.

And don't look now but the Warriors are 6-7 after an 0-6 start. A buddy's wife can't get off work tomorrow for the T-Wolves game, so I'm probably going to that one. Ordinarily I'd pencil that one in for a losing-streak stopper, but the Wolves could beat us the way we're playing.

I wouldn't be shocked if this ends up being the worst Mav team in the Cuban era, worse than the two Antoines (or is it Antawns?) team. I know it's early, and they might very well be "going through the motions," but that defense is horrible. As is the way they just settle for jumpers instead of driving to the basket.

ShoogarBear
11-27-2007, 04:02 PM
LOL @ this thread. Mav Fan is acting like Spur Fan last year.

Except without the, you know, four titles to comfort them.

I'd relax a bit more. You already learned that burning your way through the regular season doesn't mean shit. Wait to see if things have improved after the All-Star break.

Findog
11-27-2007, 04:06 PM
Except without the, you know, four titles to comfort them.



Thus the reason comparing the reactions is an apples/oranges thing. Spurs have a history of getting it done when it counts. Mavs don't.

ShoogarBear
11-27-2007, 04:11 PM
True. On the other hand, there are lots of reasons to believe that the Warriors were the only team that was going to beat them last year.

And you still have that team intact. And are even deeper with Bass, Jones, and Howard.

So, still no reason to panic.

Findog
11-27-2007, 04:20 PM
True. On the other hand, there are lots of reasons to believe that the Warriors were the only team that was going to beat them last year.

And you still have that team intact. And are even deeper with Bass, Jones, and Howard.

So, still no reason to panic.

I just don't understand some of Avery's decisions regarding distribution of minutes. No, I don't want the core playing 42 minutes a night in November, but why is Dirk playing so much at the five? He sucks there. The last three games have followed a familiar script: Mavs settle for long jumpers and get a brickfest going, while on the other end, the opposition gets whatever shot they want and are aggressive. It's losing basketball, and it's exactly what they did against Miami and Golden State.

I think you're right, though. Unless the wheels come completely off, it will be very hard to forecast with any kind of precision what this team will do in the spring for a while.

ShoogarBear
11-27-2007, 04:33 PM
Again, read the Spurs threads from previous years. Nobody understood WTF Pop was doing with his rotations, even as recently as last spring.

So maybe there actually is some undecipherable method that Avery has learned from him.

I do agree what the Mavs should be doing is figuring out how to get points in the blocks more consistently.

ShoogarBear
11-27-2007, 04:40 PM
Of course, if the Mavs end up sucking, that would be good, too.

PoleSmoking
11-27-2007, 04:51 PM
I gotta say, Mavs fans should be worried (as a partial Mavs fan myself). They have a great collection of players, and the switch-up at point guard that put Harris in the starting spot with Terry off the bench was long overdue. Terry has definitely got game ... about 45% of the time. Which makes him a good bench option, but an awful starter.

I've argued for years that Terry was probably one of the worst starting PGs in the league and needed a different role. Kudos to Avery for finally recognizing that. The problem is that, no matter how well Harris plays, he's ALSO not a real point guard, but is in fact a "scoring guard" as well ... very much like Terry, except without Terry's outside shooting "dependability," if that word can even be used. He makes a few sometimes, but still not consistently. And Terry is actually worse for consistency, even though he is the better shooter. Basically, I guess I'm saying that Dallas has no true point-guard playmaker at all, unlike both the Spurs and Suns. And for that reason they should be very worried. No matter how much talent they bring in around Dirk, Howard, and Terry, they still have no real point-guard.

mavsfan1000
11-27-2007, 06:52 PM
I just don't understand some of Avery's decisions regarding distribution of minutes. No, I don't want the core playing 42 minutes a night in November, but why is Dirk playing so much at the five? He sucks there. The last three games have followed a familiar script: Mavs settle for long jumpers and get a brickfest going, while on the other end, the opposition gets whatever shot they want and are aggressive. It's losing basketball, and it's exactly what they did against Miami and Golden State.

I think you're right, though. Unless the wheels come completely off, it will be very hard to forecast with any kind of precision what this team will do in the spring for a while.
Trying to compete with Monosylab1k for the mother of all knee-jerk reactions? Yawn it is too early to decide this. Devean George was a key part of our defense last year during the reguluar season. Hopefully he can get back to where he was. Eddie Jones is alright. Hopefully he eats some of Stackhouse's minutes. The less Stackhouse, the better. I've been saying for a long time we are lucky being successful with Stackhouse sucking it up. Also the nba schedule is brutal. This was the 5th game in 7 days along with a long flight home.

Findog
11-28-2007, 09:19 AM
Trying to compete with Monosylab1k for the mother of all knee-jerk reactions?

No.


Yawn it is too early to decide this.

True, November is early in the season. However, regular season games in November count just as much in the standings as regular season games in April. This aint the NCAA, you don't get invited to the playoffs, you have to earn it. Based on the way they're playing right now, the Mavericks have no business talking about a title. So if they're content to roll up 50 win seasons and nothing more, then there's really nothing to talk about or be concerned with. Unless they just completely collapse, they should win 50-55 games at the absolute worst. From Mark Cuban on down to the 15th man, they've been talking about a title as a goal. And no, you don't want your main guys playing 42 minutes a night in November, and it's not the end of the world if you drop a game here or there to a team you're expected to beat. What IS a concern is HOW they're losing games and that they've completely reverted to the "defense" they played under Nellie.


Devean George was a key part of our defense last year during the reguluar season.

He was also a complete spare against Golden State.

ArgSpursFan.
11-28-2007, 09:24 AM
*Dirk blew it in crunch time.



Doesn't surprise me at all.

monosylab1k
11-28-2007, 09:59 AM
This was the 5th game in 7 days along with a long flight home.
:violin

Findog
11-28-2007, 12:03 PM
Dirk + a center = good interior defense. Dirk + Bass or another PF = shitty interior defense. Let's get back to playing a traditional center please. Also, that gaping hole at starting shooting guard should be filled with Stackhouse. He was scoring and the 6th man off the bench last year, and they gave that job to JET. Neither one of those guys are good defenders, so when they are both on the court at the same time with the second unit, they are pretty much giving right back on defense what they are getting you on the other end. And if their shots are off, then they're completely useless. Plus, their jobs are the same, they are coming off the bench looking to score. It's redundant.

Put Stack at the starting two and Josh at the three or vice versa. I know they don't want Stack playing more than 25 minutes a night, so does it really matter if he is on the court for the opening tip or if he waits to come in for his minutes? It might improve his offense and I like the idea of getting him some post-ups if the defense has to account for Dirk, Josh and Devin being on the court as well. When we run into a team like Boston which has scoring options at both the two and three and there's only one Josh Howard to go around, then you can give a spot start to Devean or Eddie Jones.

monosylab1k
11-28-2007, 12:19 PM
I liked how "we're going to give Mo Ager a shot" turned into "well make that one half of one game".

Kind of like Parcells giving Drew Henson a shot but pulling him at halftime of his first start.

Then again, maybe Ager is about as useful as Henson.

I just want him to get a fair shake before being cast aside.

lurker
11-28-2007, 12:38 PM
I don't really see any potential in Ager, but I thought the same thing about Beno. :lol

Findog
11-28-2007, 12:44 PM
I liked how "we're going to give Mo Ager a shot" turned into "well make that one half of one game".

Kind of like Parcells giving Drew Henson a shot but pulling him at halftime of his first start.

Then again, maybe Ager is about as useful as Henson.

I just want him to get a fair shake before being cast aside.

Who knows what goes on in closed-door practices, or what he does to prepare himself as far as watching film, etc.

SpursIndonesia
12-01-2007, 10:55 PM
Another loss tonite against the Hornets. Dang, Pedja suddenly becomes clutch playing in NO, while being an anti clutch in Sacto, LOL. :D

Great game by CP3. :) Another dissappearing act by Nowitzki. :rolleyes

Dirk Nowitzki
12-01-2007, 11:03 PM
I cant wait to beat the Spurs ass come Wed!! Dirk and the entire team will bring it and own the Spurs in their house once again!! :clap :clap :clap :elephant :elephant :elephant

ludda
12-01-2007, 11:09 PM
The way the mavs are playing, they'll be lucky to win anything. So far theyve lost to 3 eastern teams, struggled to win against minnesota, almost let blazers back into the game and lost to the hornets.

They look horrible right now, defense, offense, lineups.

duncan228
12-01-2007, 11:12 PM
I cant wait to beat the Spurs ass come Wed!! Dirk and the entire team will bring it and own the Spurs in their house once again!! :clap :clap :clap :elephant :elephant :elephant

Optimism is about all you have right now.
Good to see you can keep it up Dirk.

Dirk Nowitzki
12-01-2007, 11:18 PM
Optimism is about all you have right now.
Good to see you can keep it up Dirk.


This team will get it together. They are too good to keep playing this bad. EVERYONE and their Grandpa Willis knows the Mavs will get out of this slump. I am not worried. When the playoffs arrive, that is when I will really truly start to judge these guys. They have the heart of a champion but they have yet to show it. Once they do, things will fall into place!

ShoogarBear
12-01-2007, 11:23 PM
They have the heart of a champion but they have yet to show it. Hot Damn. Best Mav Fan quote ever. :lol

duncan228
12-01-2007, 11:23 PM
They have the heart of a champion but they have yet to show it.

They have yet to show it.
An understatement.

I hope they do get out of this slump, I was worried about you last year. I'd hate for you to get so down again.

And where are the :elephant in your last post? :)

dbreiden83080
12-01-2007, 11:26 PM
We should really work on some kind of Mav fan to Spurs fan conversion test for the most angry of Mavs fans.

Dirk Nowitzki
12-01-2007, 11:26 PM
They have yet to show it.
An understatement.

I hope they do get out of this slump, I was worried about you last year. I'd hate for you to get so down again.

And where are the :elephant in your last post? :)

Well right now the Cowboys are helping ALOT with my patience!! :clap :clap :clap :elephant :elephant :elephant

ludda
12-01-2007, 11:26 PM
The "Dirk Nowitzki" guy always has "good" quotes. Along with a million clappy hands and pink elephants.

One thing I've noticed is how Dirk and Avery are both stressing the whole teammate concept, but its making Dirk an even weaker pussy than before. At the end of this game, you had Stackhouse and Harris taking the shots....

IMO Mavs have fallen off a little this year. Dirk continues his disappearing act and now also is pass-first and Avery keeps making some very questionable moves during the game (s).

Warlord23
12-02-2007, 02:07 AM
I said it before .. Devin Harris cannot defend PGs who know how to execute in the half-court. He defends Parker well because Parker tries to outquick Harris, while speed is Harris' biggest strength.

Paul put up a monstrous 33/12/9 against him tonight. The other night Mo Williams of the Bucks was owning him. Parker needs to take notes ... with Harris' speed and Diop's shot-blocking, Parker's biggest weapon, penetration and acrobatic finishes in the lane, is neutralized. Against Harris he has to go pick-and-roll and look to pass better.

I'm looking forward to Dallas v/s Utah. Harris will get bent over by Deron Williams. Also, Utah has the kind of long, quick-footed forwards that cause Dirk trouble; I'd like to see the reigning MVP work against Kirilenko or Millsap.

One thing is certain, it's not just the Warriors who are a threat to the Mavs this season.

Dirk Nowitzki
12-02-2007, 02:37 AM
I said it before .. Devin Harris cannot defend PGs who know how to execute in the half-court. He defends Parker well because Parker tries to outquick Harris, while speed is Harris' biggest strength.

Paul put up a monstrous 33/12/9 against him tonight. The other night Mo Williams of the Bucks was owning him. Parker needs to take notes ... with Harris' speed and Diop's shot-blocking, Parker's biggest weapon, penetration and acrobatic finishes in the lane, is neutralized. Against Harris he has to go pick-and-roll and look to pass better.

I'm looking forward to Dallas v/s Utah. Harris will get bent over by Deron Williams. Also, Utah has the kind of long, quick-footed forwards that cause Dirk trouble; I'd like to see the reigning MVP work against Kirilenko or Millsap.

One thing is certain, it's not just the Warriors who are a threat to the Mavs this season.


In other words....you dont want to see the Mavs in a 7 game series because you know deep down inside that we are more than capable of beating you (and vice versa) because we proved it in 2006.

J.T.
12-02-2007, 06:59 AM
I thought Avery might have tried to steal the start-slow-and-heat-up-in-February page from Pop's playbook, but I'm beginning to have doubts.

yeahone
12-02-2007, 08:38 AM
well the mavss had a 46 in 50 run lst year...so dont get to excited they gonna go for 48 in 50 soon

batboy
12-02-2007, 03:15 PM
In other words....you dont want to see the Mavs in a 7 game series because you know deep down inside that we are more than capable of beating you (and vice versa) because we proved it in 2006.

Game 7, overtime.

I'd say you were _exactly_ capable of beating us, certainly not more than capable.

1Parker1
12-02-2007, 08:53 PM
In other words....you dont want to see the Mavs in a 7 game series because you know deep down inside that we are more than capable of beating you (and vice versa) because we proved it in 2006.


:lol That series really did not prove a single thing. First because the Mavs didn't go on to win the championship, they showed they are quite beatable. And 2nd and most important....the Mavs took a comanding 3-1 lead in that series against the Spurs and they let the Spurs come all the way back and force a game 7 OT that could have gone either way. If they Mavs had blown out the Spurs in that series or really put a stamp on it, then I would be more than happy to agree with you that I wouldn't want to see the Mavs in a 7 game series.

If anything, I think losing to the Mavs in 06 will make the Spurs even more dangerous should they meet in the playoffs. I'll admit out of all the teams in the NBA, Mavs are the ones that match up the best with the Spurs. Problem is, Mavs will have to play good enough to get out of the 1st round to meet up the Spurs in the playoffs. There are way too many teams this year who can compete with the Mavs and beat them: Rockets, Jazz, Suns, and Warriors can all possibly beat the Mavs in a 7 game series.

Findog
12-02-2007, 09:34 PM
the Mavs suck right now and don't need to worry about the Spurs. There's a lot of things that should be more pressing than a hypothetical series with San Antonio. I defended the need to stand pat all summer...I don't know what's going on right now, but I don't buy that they're just humming along in 3rd gear.

SpursIndonesia
12-03-2007, 10:09 AM
The Mavs will be just fine and make it as the top 4 team into the playoff -or atleast holding first round advantage over their 1st round foe, i have no doubt about that. While Dirk does look too passive lately, i think he just tries to pace himself more wisely this season -reg season MVP title means jack sh!t if you choke in the post season, i think that lesson is well stamped in his mind.

sribb43
12-03-2007, 10:53 AM
The Mavs will be just fine and make it as the top 4 team into the playoff -or atleast holding first round advantage over their 1st round foe, i have no doubt about that. While Dirk does look too passive lately, i think he just tries to pace himself more wisely this season -reg season MVP title means jack sh!t if you choke in the post season, i think that lesson is well stamped in his mind.


Has an MVP from the previous season ever became a role player in the following season?...if not, Dirk is on his way to becoming the first

Dirkgreatness
12-03-2007, 05:38 PM
^^ Thanks to Avery limiting his minutes.

ShoogarBear
12-06-2007, 02:07 AM
C'mon there's got to be a least one or two knee-jerks coming . . .

PoleSmoking
12-06-2007, 02:41 AM
This team will get it together. They are too good to keep playing this bad. EVERYONE and their Grandpa Willis knows the Mavs will get out of this slump. I am not worried. When the playoffs arrive, that is when I will really truly start to judge these guys. They have the heart of a champion but they have yet to show it. Once they do, things will fall into place!

Yep. Sure. The playoffs are when the Mavs really shine, right? Oops! No! I guess not. It seems, upon further inspection, that the playoffs are when the Mavs REALLY get down to the serious business of choking like losers. Oh dear god, can it be true? Yes it's true. The Mavs are joke and scare no one at all.

mavsfan1000
12-06-2007, 04:59 AM
Yep. Sure. The playoffs are when the Mavs really shine, right? Oops! No! I guess not. It seems, upon further inspection, that the playoffs are when the Mavs REALLY get down to the serious business of choking like losers. Oh dear god, can it be true? Yes it's true. The Mavs are joke and scare no one at all.
Ah :stfu:

SpursIndonesia
12-06-2007, 06:50 AM
:lol A lil smack talk over a rather meaningless winter game is just for fun, come on.

J.T.
12-06-2007, 07:27 AM
I don't see how people are saying Dirk choked because he missed the last shot. Even though the events that led to him getting in position for that shot violated NBA rules, guys miss last-second desperation three point shots all the time. Every game decided by two points or less probably ends with a shot like that by the losing team.

Dirk choked by not playing better during the game... lot's of guys would have missed a 3G with two seconds left, and Dirk's 3G% has been a lot lower this season, not much of a shocker that he missed it.

Not that much choking occurs in December games anyway, and I enjoy the clutch win by the Spurs, but for real.... saying Dirk choked for something everyone on the Spurs roster has probably done at some point in their careers... I lawled.

spurscenter
12-06-2007, 07:35 AM
I'm going to hear all the "this is the second game of the regular season" and "we started 0-4 last year" and "Josh Howard didn't play" and "you're not a real Mavs fan if you don't wave your pom-poms at all times" all that other bullshit for what I'm about to say, but screw it I'm gonna say it anyways.

This game tonight proved to me that the Mavericks have not learned ONE FUCKING THING from last season.

*They got blown away by a more athletic team that likes to run.

*Their "defensive specialists" did dick on defense and even less on offense.

*Avery still lets Stackhouse run wild regardless of the fact that he obviously is not feeling it with his shot. If he's going to brick everything he throws up there, why the hell doesn't he just take him out and see what Ager's got? It can't be any worse.

*Dirk blew it in crunch time.

I have no doubt that this team will win 55+ games and make the playoffs easily. But to see them not learn ANYTHING this offseason and immediately shit the bed against a more athletic team right off the bat really pisses me off.

GET KOBE THE FUCK TO DALLAS RIGHT NOW CUBAN!


If this was a loss to Utah or hell even Portland, I wouldn't be pissed. I'd completely shrug it off as no big deal.

It's because of the fact that this was a loss to a team that basically copied the Golden State strategy and we still couldn't do shit to stop it.

0-1 vs. athletic, running teams. That's the only regular season record I'm interested in for Dallas this year.


I liked how "we're going to give Mo Ager a shot" turned into "well make that one half of one game".

Kind of like Parcells giving Drew Henson a shot but pulling him at halftime of his first start.

Then again, maybe Ager is about as useful as Henson.

I just want him to get a fair shake before being cast aside.



The Meltdown, hahaha

add this to your retarded pats coach picture signature

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/57/fullj.752e24813935c17a83a0450d4aa5c44c/752e24813935c17a83a0450d4aa5c44c-getty-76075801jm006_mavs_spurs.jpg

ArgSpursFan.
12-06-2007, 09:54 AM
Manu would've made that last shot Dirk missed last night.
Well,He aint no choker.

Sweetey
12-06-2007, 12:31 PM
The Meltdown, hahaha

add this to your retarded pats coach picture signature

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/57/fullj.752e24813935c17a83a0450d4aa5c44c/752e24813935c17a83a0450d4aa5c44c-getty-76075801jm006_mavs_spurs.jpg

LOVE this pic. :lol :lol

Sweetey
12-06-2007, 12:34 PM
Well right now the Cowboys are helping ALOT with my patience!! :clap :clap :clap :elephant :elephant :elephant
Are you gay? Pink elephants????

ShoogarBear
12-06-2007, 10:51 PM
Okay, WTF is up with the Mavs?

CubanMustGo
12-06-2007, 10:51 PM
Denver 122
Dallas 109

Final

with Melo shooting 9-30 and Denver running the clock out the last 2+ minutes

Budkin
12-06-2007, 10:54 PM
Seriously, what is going on with the Mavs... they've got the same team from last year pretty much. I would be pissed if I were a Mavs fan right now.

lurker
12-06-2007, 10:54 PM
Okay, WTF is up with the Mavs?
I wish I knew. They get more pathetic with each game.

NuGGeTs-FaN
12-06-2007, 10:55 PM
AI - 35/12/6

LK showed up (23pts)

Camby - 8/11/5

Kmart - 18pts and some decent D when it counted

CubanMustGo
12-06-2007, 10:55 PM
The defense tonight was totally teh suck. They weren't even trying to guard anyone.

Dirk Nowitzki
12-06-2007, 10:56 PM
Nothing is wrong with the Mavs. I like what Avery is doing. This team is pacing themselves. They are fine. They will turn it on eventually. They are a great team and Im not worried just yet. Spurs were 14-11 and even 9-10 at one point in the season and they managed to get it going. The Mavs will too. They are conserving alot of their energy. I know this will pay off in the end. I feel something VERY good is going to come out of this. This is a blessing in disguise. :clap :clap :clap

SAtown
12-06-2007, 10:58 PM
:lmao

lurker
12-06-2007, 10:59 PM
Theres pacing yourselves, and theres playing like shit. The Mavs are doing the latter.

ShoogarBear
12-06-2007, 10:59 PM
I'm starting to think either one of two things, or possibly some of both:

1. The loss to the Warriors mentally crippled them for good, and they are done.

or

2. The De-Emphasize Dirk idea is killing them (although he wasn't de-emphasized tonight). They are only going to go as far as he takes them, and he needs to realize that and step up.

ludda
12-06-2007, 10:59 PM
Nothing is wrong with the Mavs. I like what Avery is doing. This team is pacing themselves. They are fine. They will turn it on eventually. They are a great team and Im not worried just yet. Spurs were 14-11 and even 9-10 at one point in the season and they managed to get it going. The Mavs will too. They are conserving alot of their energy. I know this will pay off in the end. I feel something VERY good is going to come out of this. This is a blessing in disguise. :clap :clap :clap


Okay, "blessing in disguise". You may be the only mavs fan who feels that way.

If I were the mavs, I'd trade Terry. He always get torched "guarding" the opponent and for every hot shooting night he has, he has 10 nights of worthlessness + thug wannabe.

Dirk Nowitzki
12-06-2007, 11:05 PM
Okay, "blessing in disguise". You may be the only mavs fan who feels that way.

If I were the mavs, I'd trade Terry. He always get torched "guarding" the opponent and for every hot shooting night he has, he has 10 nights of worthlessness + thug wannabe.


Trade JET? Fuck that. He is a cold blooded killer. Keep this team in tact. This is going to work out for the Mavs. People need to stop worrying. They are a GREAT team! Dirk is a true warrior when he wants to be. This team is so fucking good that them taking nights off wont last much longer. Avery is among one of the best coaches in the game and I trust him. I know this team has it in them to get through this laziness/early adversity.

ludda
12-06-2007, 11:05 PM
What drugs are you taking and can I have some?

ShoogarBear
12-06-2007, 11:06 PM
Trade JET? Fuck that. He is a cold blooded killer. "Killer" is a bit of an overstatement.

"Nut-puncher" is closer to the mark, so to speak.

Dirk Nowitzki
12-06-2007, 11:10 PM
What drugs are you taking and can I have some?


The drug I am on is faith and belief in this team. They will get through this. I KNOW it! I fucking believe in them so much! Sure I get frusterated but I am going to remain optimistic until we are actually eliminated from title contention

J.T.
12-06-2007, 11:51 PM
The drug I am on is faith and belief in this team. They will get through this. I KNOW it! I fucking believe in them so much! Sure I get frusterated but I am going to remain optimistic until we are actually eliminated from title contention

Sounds more like you just did a half gram of a speedball.

PoleSmoking
12-07-2007, 02:56 AM
Ah :stfu:

Fantastic response. I love how you brilliantly refuted all of my points so easily. Teach me, master debater ... or is it masturbator?

PoleSmoking
12-07-2007, 02:58 AM
I don't see how people are saying Dirk choked because he missed the last shot. Even though the events that led to him getting in position for that shot violated NBA rules, guys miss last-second desperation three point shots all the time. Every game decided by two points or less probably ends with a shot like that by the losing team.

Dirk choked by not playing better during the game... lot's of guys would have missed a 3G with two seconds left, and Dirk's 3G% has been a lot lower this season, not much of a shocker that he missed it.

Not that much choking occurs in December games anyway, and I enjoy the clutch win by the Spurs, but for real.... saying Dirk choked for something everyone on the Spurs roster has probably done at some point in their careers... I lawled.

Okay, how about saying that Dirk is a choker because he misses ALL of the clutch shots every night? Game after game. In fact, to find the latest Dirk choke moment, all you have to do is look at the final 24 seconds of the most recent Mavs game. He's money on those choke plays now. He's done. These past two years have psychologically scarred him badly, apparently.

PoleSmoking
12-07-2007, 03:10 AM
AI - 35/12/6

LK showed up (23pts)

Camby - 8/11/5

Kmart - 18pts and some decent D when it counted

Hey NuGGeTs-FaN, I apologize for getting off topic with this; but why did you choose a punk bitch cunt like Melo for your avatar? I mean, I know you're a Nuggs fan, but surely even you know that Melo is a total shitbag, right?

PoleSmoking
12-07-2007, 03:22 AM
Okay, "blessing in disguise". You may be the only mavs fan who feels that way.

If I were the mavs, I'd trade Terry. He always get torched "guarding" the opponent and for every hot shooting night he has, he has 10 nights of worthlessness + thug wannabe.

True true. Nobody can deny that JT is a nut-punching little bitch. Probably only Melo is a more annoying little wannabe thug punk bitch. That's an incontrovertible fact of reality. But what's always amazed me about him is the bullshit hype he gets around the league.

He's not a viable starter and never has been. He's not a viable point-guard, because he handles the ball like a fool and is always looking to shoot first.

He's not a viable shooting guard because he's a little bitch, and he's so streaky (as you pointed out) that you can't count on him for shit 9 out of 10 games.

He gets embarassed on D constantly because, again, he's a little bitch.

He's got a terrible attitude and is constantly embarrassing himself & the team by obnoxiously cheering for himself after anything positive that he does.

In short, he's really a total shitbag and a waste. Avery wants to try to mimic the Spurs and use him like Ginobili ... but the problem is that Ginobili is a viable starter and Terry is really just a little punk cunt bitch at the end of the day. My conclusion is that JT is probably about equal to a player like, say, Eddie House ... except that House isn't a little annoying nut-punching cunt bitch asshole with a horrible attitude like Jason Terry.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

ludda
12-07-2007, 04:46 AM
^ :lol I also hate the smug airplane shit Terry does whenever he hits a shot...only to have the guy he's supposed to guarding (but instead he's still high-fiving and patting himself on the back) dunk or get a shot on him.

J.T.
12-07-2007, 05:57 AM
True true. Nobody can deny that JT is a nut-punching little bitch.
You will be hearing from my lawyer.