Call of Duty 4 or The Orange Box?

[baseline bum]

I get my 360 back from being repaired tomorrow or Friday, and I can't decide which game to get first. Three Half Lifes and and a Portal game that looks great too, vs an Infinity Ward COD. I'm not into MP and COD4 Single player is supposed to be short, but the video of it looks ridiculous.

[Beno Udrih]

tetris pwns all.

[leemajors]

get orange box for the PC and jump in some tf2 with enigma, cry havoc and i. say no to fps on consoles!

[Beno Udrih]

Um what?

[PM5K]

If you aren't into MP then get the Orange Box, it's a no brainer.

However, you are missing out on a bunch with both games, TF2 and COD4 MP...

[dougp]

CoD4 MP is the best there is right now - it's just the right pace, with unlocks as you gain ranks. I'm currently up to lvl 25 after about 6 hours total - crazy fun and the firefights are very intense. It's getting 9.5's and higher - and while I enjoy TF2, CoD4 is much more fun.

[Cry Havoc]

CoD4 MP is the best there is right now - it's just the right pace, with unlocks as you gain ranks. I'm currently up to lvl 25 after about 6 hours total - crazy fun and the firefights are very intense. It's getting 9.5's and higher - and while I enjoy TF2, CoD4 is much more fun.

You might want to make a small note that The Orange Box is far more than TF2.

Half-Life 2 is considered by many magazines to be the greatest game of all time, if not, at least the greatest action-adventure/FPS game of all time.

Episode 1, while not as well received, still got rated in the 8.5-9 range.

Episode 2 is being given 9+ as well.

Team Fortress 2 might go down as the multiplayer game of the year, and is a worthy competitor to COD4 by itself.

And Portal is just freaking awesome.

This is really no contest. COD4 is a fantastic game, but The Orange Box is the greatest deal in the HISTORY of videogames. That says a hell of a lot about the product.

For the record, I plan to own both of them. But if I had one choice, it's no contest. The Orange Box (if allowed) is going to run away with the Game of the Year awards this year, if you can really consider it one game.

Just get both, dude. Get one now and ask for the other for Christmas.

[Cry Havoc]

get orange box for the PC and jump in some tf2 with enigma, cry havoc and i. say no to fps on consoles!

*sets Lee on fire with his pyro*

*watches him run around in circles*

:lol

[atxrocker]

i have heard positive things about the orange box...

[BeerIsGood!]

Just save your pennies and grap both. Both are must play.

Or, you can do like I did and buy Orange Box and get COD4 from Game Fly or whoever else and beat it in a few days.

[dougp]

You might want to make a small note that The Orange Box is far more than TF2.

Half-Life 2 is considered by many magazines to be the greatest game of all time, if not, at least the greatest action-adventure/FPS game of all time.

Episode 1, while not as well received, still got rated in the 8.5-9 range.

Episode 2 is being given 9+ as well.

Team Fortress 2 might go down as the multiplayer game of the year, and is a worthy competitor to COD4 by itself.

And Portal is just freaking awesome.

This is really no contest. COD4 is a fantastic game, but The Orange Box is the greatest deal in the HISTORY of videogames. That says a hell of a lot about the product.

For the record, I plan to own both of them. But if I had one choice, it's no contest. The Orange Box (if allowed) is going to run away with the Game of the Year awards this year, if you can really consider it one game.

Just get both, dude. Get one now and ask for the other for Christmas.I guess I didn't make myself clear - he's asking about a 360. There's no way in HELL I'd recommend someone get the Orange Box on the 360 ... the experience is killed. He needs to get it for PC, or just play CoD4!

[MannyIsGod]

Is TF2 that good? Hows the learning curve?

[leemajors]

Is TF2 that good? Hows the learning curve?
TF2 on the pc is awesome - it definitely captures the spirit of the original, which team fortress classic did not. you can have fun regardless of skill level, but you gotta work with your team to win.

[MannyIsGod]

Pretty cool - Maybe i'll pick up an orange box.

[baseline bum]

You might want to make a small note that The Orange Box is far more than TF2.

Half-Life 2 is considered by many magazines to be the greatest game of all time, if not, at least the greatest action-adventure/FPS game of all time.

Episode 1, while not as well received, still got rated in the 8.5-9 range.

Episode 2 is being given 9+ as well.

Team Fortress 2 might go down as the multiplayer game of the year, and is a worthy competitor to COD4 by itself.

And Portal is just freaking awesome.

This is really no contest. COD4 is a fantastic game, but The Orange Box is the greatest deal in the HISTORY of videogames. That says a hell of a lot about the product.

For the record, I plan to own both of them. But if I had one choice, it's no contest. The Orange Box (if allowed) is going to run away with the Game of the Year awards this year, if you can really consider it one game.

Just get both, dude. Get one now and ask for the other for Christmas.

Of course I'm eventually getting both, but I'm not going to be playing them at the same time, lol. I definitely won't be getting either for PC. I hate PC gaming, as a gaming machine is so much more expensive to build than just buying a console, and so many PC games are shitty ports from the 360/PS3 versions.

[Cry Havoc]

Is TF2 that good? Hows the learning curve?

Extremely smooth. Since it's a lot of rock-paper-scissors, the game rewards smart play as much as "I've done this a thousand times more than you".

Doesn't matter who you are, if a scout runs at you and you're holding a flamethrower, you're going to get a kill.

Several classes are very straight-forward. The soldier, for instance, is extremely easy to use. Just learn the step out step back maneuver so that you can pop out of a doorway and fire a rocket before a sentry gun can peg you.

There are a thousand little intuitive things that you'll pick up after about a week of playing. When all else fails -- be a medic. Healing is easy with the wicked health hose, and you'll learn the other classes by watching. Plus, everyone loves a medic.

It really is insane to watch the classes interact with each other. Nothing like seeing a group of soldiers and demomen from the other team swarm in and get laid to waste by a single heavy with a medic in support.

[leemajors]

i ditched my wireless mouse since i started playing games again, thank god. the demoman is quite easy to use now.


Nothing like seeing a group of soldiers and demomen from the other team swarm in and get laid to waste by a single heavy with a medic in support.

and half of them don't go after the medic first! what i'm really pleased with is the quality of most of the maps. a good amount of them are extremely balanced, and those that aren't require a good team effort.

[resistanze]

Have you played any of the HL2s yet? If not, you might wanna start with their 20+ Hours of SP gameplay with a great storyline first. Not to mention TF2 multiplayer gameplay.

Guess it depends how much you value SP vs MP. I'm pretty sure I'm almost done the SP campaign for COD4 but I probably won't touch MP till X-mas break in a month or so.

[baseline bum]

I don't play a lot of MP; it's way too time consuming. The only time I ever played lots of MP was during a couple of very slow months when I worked at Activision, where our whole office would play COD2 and COD3 MP half the workday.

[to21]

i. say no to fps on consoles!

Amen Brother!

[maxpower]

I also vote ...both.

However if you are not into the MP side then, The Orange Box is a no-brainer.
CoD4 SP can be completed in ~6-8 hours, so I've read.

The multiplayer on both is awesome...especially if you can find a good group of players who communicate.

I'm juggling both right now. ...however with CoD4 taking most of my time right now.

Although I am going through Ravenholm without firing a single bullet thus far(going for the 1 bullet achievement).

p.s. I have nothing against pc gaming(I spent countless hours on RTCW) but I do get a kick out of the "pc gamers" who seem offended by console games. It must be the radiation from staring at a screen 2 feet away while sitting in an uncomfortable position. :violin :stirpot:

[peewee's lovechild]

The Legend of Zelda.

[Cry Havoc]

We could seriously be looking at 4 of the greatest FPS games of all time released within a couple months of each other.

Bioshock, Crysis, CoD4, and TF2. That's not even counting Mass Effect or Halo 3. Wow.

[resistanze]

I don't play a lot of MP; it's way too time consuming. The only time I ever played lots of MP was during a couple of very slow months when I worked at Activision, where our whole office would play COD2 and COD3 MP half the workday.
I'd say get The Orange Box first. I've actually only played 3 games consistenly online in my life: CS, Winning Eleven 2007 and NBA 2K6. I'm hoping to get into Halo 3, TF2 and COD4 this winter.

But no doubt, HL2 will engage you for a while.

[resistanze]

Crysis
Don't say that word, you made my laptop flinch :lol

[Ballcox]

^Baseline, I've been playing the Orange Box on the 360 for the last few weeks and in one word......AWESOME.

I was playing bioshock, but then I started playing Half Life 2 and haven't gone back to bioshock yet. Not to say that bioshock isn't a great game, it's also probably one of the best fps console games I've every played. But half life 2 is just a great game, involving story line, great graphics and the gameplay is just fun as hell. I haven't even got to episode 1 or 2 yet, it's just a great value to get 5 games for one price.

My main problem now is trying to decide which two games to get out Mas Effect, Assasin's Creed and COD 4. Only have enough $ for two of them at this point. I'm leaning towards Mas Effect and Assasins' Creed.

[dougp]

We could seriously be looking at 4 of the greatest FPS games of all time released within a couple months of each other.

Bioshock, Crysis, CoD4, and TF2. That's not even counting Mass Effect or Halo 3. Wow.
I don't agree with that list - Crysis itself is really just a tech demo. There's nothing really revolutionary about its gameplay over Farcry. Whereas, Bioshock is incredibly deep, CoD4 is insane MP with good SP, TF2 as an awesome MP game and Halo 3 with a decent story line and custom games. UT3 is far beyond Crysis itself except the graphics department!

[leemajors]

p.s. I have nothing against pc gaming(I spent countless hours on RTCW) but I do get a kick out of the "pc gamers" who seem offended by console games. It must be the radiation from staring at a screen 2 feet away while sitting in an uncomfortable position. :violin :stirpot:
i'm not offended by console games, just multiplayer FPS on consoles is severely limited in how you can customize controls, and movement. freelook with a mouse is unbeatable in an FPS.

[Cry Havoc]

I don't agree with that list - Crysis itself is really just a tech demo. There's nothing really revolutionary about its gameplay over Farcry. Whereas, Bioshock is incredibly deep, CoD4 is insane MP with good SP, TF2 as an awesome MP game and Halo 3 with a decent story line and custom games. UT3 is far beyond Crysis itself except the graphics department!

As I stated in another thread, Crysis garnered a 9.8 rating from PC Gamer magazine.

But what do they know? They've only played the full game. You've undoubtedly played the demo, right? So you are in a position to cast judgment on a game which hasn't been released yet. :dramaquee

It's amazing that you call Crysis a tech demo before it's released. Were you playing the full version of Halo 3 and CoD4 a year ago? Or were they just "tech demos" back then?

[dougp]

As I stated in another thread, Crysis garnered a 9.8 rating from PC Gamer magazine.

But what do they know? They've only played the full game. You've undoubtedly played the demo, right? So you are in a position to cast judgment on a game which hasn't been released yet. :dramaquee

It's amazing that you call Crysis a tech demo before it's released. Were you playing the full version of Halo 3 and CoD4 a year ago? Or were they just "tech demos" back then?
Whoopity-do, a 9.8 rating (same as HL2, but you'll see where I'm going next)? It still plays like Farcry ... hell, HL2 played like the original - both just felt like graphical updates to the originals. It still doesn't change the fact that a SP game can only go on for so long, MP is what will carry the game. I've heard many media complaints that the MP is VERY lacking in Crysis ...

[Cry Havoc]

Whoopity-do, a 9.8 rating (same as HL2, but you'll see where I'm going next)? It still plays like Farcry ... hell, HL2 played like the original - both just felt like graphical updates to the originals. It still doesn't change the fact that a SP game can only go on for so long, MP is what will carry the game. I've heard many media complaints that the MP is VERY lacking in Crysis ...

Care to post links to those "complaints"? Or are they just your secret sources? Either way, it makes no difference, you stated flatly that the game was no more than a tech demo and are now admitting that it is not in-fact your opinion but simply someone else's that you're parroting.

Half-Life 2 is widely considered to be superior to the predecessor. Far Cry was also reviewed as among the very best FPS of it's day. Despite coming from a comparatively tiny company, it blew away Doom 3 which had a ton of hype (and a movie) and held it own even against HL2. If Crysis is "only" the improved spiritual successor to Far Cry, it will be a stunning game and in contention for the GotY awards.

Besides, there are millions of gamers who still play games for the single player experience. It's interesting to note that Half-Life 2 is the perfect example of this, containing one of the best SP experiences of all-time, and yet you are stating in the same comment that MP is the only reason to really own a game.

I still don't understand how you pass a 98/100 as a big whoop and in the same sentence state that it's the exact same rating HL2 received.

[dougp]

Care to post links to those "complaints"? Or are they just your secret sources? Either way, it makes no difference, you stated flatly that the game was no more than a tech demo and are now admitting that it is not in-fact your opinion but simply someone else's that you're parroting.

Half-Life 2 is widely considered to be superior to the predecessor. Far Cry was also reviewed as among the very best FPS of it's day. Despite coming from a comparatively tiny company, it blew away Doom 3 which had a ton of hype (and a movie) and held it own even against HL2. If Crysis is "only" the improved spiritual successor to Far Cry, it will be a stunning game and in contention for the GotY awards.

Besides, there are millions of gamers who still play games for the single player experience. It's interesting to note that Half-Life 2 is the perfect example of this, containing one of the best SP experiences of all-time, and yet you are stating in the same comment that MP is the only reason to really own a game.

I still don't understand how you pass a 98/100 as a big whoop and in the same sentence state that it's the exact same rating HL2 received.
I don't think we're on the same wavelengths. I'm talking about longevity, personally. SP is great, but that's normally what will give a game such a high score - right? Go out and find the published previews of Crysis - they specifically state that the game is incredibly unbalanced in MP ... most of the places I've read that was in PC Gamer & Games for Windows (previously CGW.)

In a year, will you honestly be replaying Crysis SP? Unless something is added - there's no point really ... whereas in MP, you play it forever (look at SC, CS, Q2, Q3, DoD, etc.) and it's what will expand the life.

[baseline bum]

I ended up getting COD4. That game is fucking intense with 5.1 surround sound. After I beat it I'll go grab The Orange Box.

[dougp]

I ended up getting COD4. That game is fucking intense with 5.1 surround sound. After I beat it I'll go grab The Orange Box.
PM me if you wanna play some MP, bb.

[baseline bum]

PM me if you wanna play some MP, bb.

I don't really play game online much (hence, I didn't get XBL Gold). Thanks for the invite though.

Man, the last Jackson mission is incredible. The visuals throughout the whole thing (whether in the helicopter, on the ground, or in the cutscenes) look great. The flashback level is one of the coolest levels I've ever seen in a game also. I like that there's none of the boring tank missions that COD2 had also (although I gotta admit that Treyarch did an awesome tank mission in COD3).