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oligarchy
11-12-2007, 01:02 PM
Saturday November 17, 2007
Prudential Center - Newark, New Jersey

Main card
Light heavyweight bout: Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
Light heavyweight bout: Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Frank Edgar
Middleweight bout: Ed Herman vs. Joe Doerksen

Preliminary card
Welterweight bout: Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory
Welterweight bout: Chris Lytle vs. Thiago Alves
Lightweight bout: Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt
Lightweight bout: Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo

oligarchy
11-12-2007, 01:05 PM
Fight Predictions:

Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping - By Lay n' Pray
Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
Spencer Fisher vs. Frank Edgar
Ed Herman vs. Joe Doerksen

Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory
Chris Lytle vs. Thiago Alves
Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt
Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo

oligarchy
11-12-2007, 01:05 PM
Funny(?) blogging quarrel between Bisping and Evans
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/07/bisping-vs-evans-battle-of-the-bloggers/

Edit: Source updated.

atxrocker
11-12-2007, 02:16 PM
this card is pretty weak to me

mardigan
11-12-2007, 02:24 PM
this card is pretty weak to me
Me too, think this will be one that I skip

oligarchy
11-12-2007, 02:33 PM
I'm actually looking most forward to Fisher v. Edgar and Doerksen v. Herman. Although, it's actually a good card minus the main event. I think if it had better fighters for the main event, it would be better. The fights should be very good.

Bisping vs Evans: should be death by boredom, this will definitely be the least exciting fight.
Fisher vs Edgar: should be fireworks -- fight of the night -- possible fight of the year
Herman vs Doerksen: should be another good fight
Karo vs Chonan: again, another action packed fight
Houston "we have a problem" Alexander vs Thiago Silva: any comments needed?

Evan
11-12-2007, 02:39 PM
Its a good card...not ground breaking but good.

LEONARD
11-12-2007, 04:17 PM
I really like this card, it's just the main event that isn't main event worthy...

I like it top to bottom though...

koopa
11-12-2007, 04:22 PM
i hope bisping gets beat down, i used to like him but the way he acted when they gave him the decision over hamill made me hate him, so i hope evans kills him

and i hate karo so i hope he gets beat down too

houston alexander is no joke so i think silvas undefeated streak ends saturday

i haven't seen herman fight in awhile cause i missed the june ppv, so hopefully i don't see him tap out since i like him lol

dallaskd
11-12-2007, 07:55 PM
Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping
Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
Spencer Fisher vs. Frank Edgar
Ed Herman vs. Joe Doerksen
Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory
Chris Lytle vs. Thiago Alves
Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt
Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo

Evan
11-12-2007, 09:39 PM
I really like this card, it's just the main event that isn't main event worthy...

I like it top to bottom though...

Excellent point. Its simple a card missing a poster main event...I will be watching it for sure.

oligarchy
11-13-2007, 09:55 AM
i haven't seen herman fight in awhile cause i missed the june ppv, so hopefully i don't see him tap out since i like him lol
This is a rematch. If you look at the loss, it's a TKO due to Triangle Choke. Which means that he didn't tap.

oligarchy
11-13-2007, 10:03 AM
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? You didn't have the story on your site. It's the only place I saw the story. :depressed


I really like this card, it's just the main event that isn't main event worthy..

Although, it's actually a good card minus the main event.
Same thing I said. :)

Evan
11-13-2007, 12:09 PM
Same thing I said. :)

Yeah your right. :toast


If I'm not mistaken this was supposed to be the Wandy Vs Chuck fight but Wandy is doing the Brazil "IFL" type thing right now.

I want to somehow get my hands on that TV show....

koopa
11-13-2007, 04:10 PM
This is a rematch. If you look at the loss, it's a TKO due to Triangle Choke. Which means that he didn't tap.


oh when i said the last time i saw him tap was when he fought jason macdonald and he said i'm sorry for tapping out like a bitch

oligarchy
11-13-2007, 04:20 PM
oh when i said the last time i saw him tap was when he fought jason macdonald and he said i'm sorry for tapping out like a bitch
Yeah, I understood and know the quote that's why I said look at the loss. He didn't tap :)

Rip-Hamilton32
11-13-2007, 10:19 PM
i think the card sucks, but i hate evans and bisping, i thought both were getting better but they both sucked in there last fights

Evan
11-14-2007, 08:43 AM
Really surprised at the reaction to this card. A lot of these people could be contending one day.

LEONARD
11-14-2007, 09:56 AM
i think the card sucks, but i hate evans and bisping, i thought both were getting better but they both sucked in there last fights

What about the other fights??

cornbread
11-14-2007, 10:59 AM
Main card
Light heavyweight bout: Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping
Welterweight bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
Light heavyweight bout: Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Frank Edgar
Middleweight bout: Ed Herman vs. Joe Doerksen

Preliminary card
Welterweight bout: Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory
Welterweight bout: Chris Lytle vs. Thiago Alves
Lightweight bout: Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt
Lightweight bout: Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo

Soul_Patch
11-14-2007, 01:30 PM
Evans doesnt kill anyone...he beats people with technique and then playing possum...

i really dislike his fights for the most part.

dallaskd
11-14-2007, 11:05 PM
Excellent card.

Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
Spencer Fisher vs. Frank Edgar

....Contenders for fight of the year???

Avitus1
11-14-2007, 11:53 PM
Main card
Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping
Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
Spencer Fisher vs. Frank Edgar
Ed Herman vs. Joe Doerksen

oligarchy
11-15-2007, 08:46 AM
Excellent card.

Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
Spencer Fisher vs. Frank Edgar

....Contenders for fight of the year???

I don't think that the fight with Alexander and Silva will go as long as Fisher and Edgar. I think Ryo and Karo will be a bit slower than both.

Evan
11-15-2007, 09:16 AM
I think Ryo and Karo will be a bit slower than both.

To me this is the highlight of the card but does have the potential to be so technical it could really stall out.

oligarchy
11-15-2007, 09:36 AM
To me this is the highlight of the card but does have the potential to be so technical it could really stall out.

It's a great technical battle, but it won't be packed with fireworks, I don't believe. Karo doesn't finish fights, simply. Edgar and Fisher both look to finish fights and will battle wherever the fight goes with as much intensity.

Houston and Thiago will most likely be a short strikefest (which should be entertaining), unless Thiago goes with a ground gameplan and throws all the pre-fight talk out.

Rip-Hamilton32
11-15-2007, 08:14 PM
What about the other fights??
the rest of the fights seem great i might watch it as long as im not paying lol

Evan
11-15-2007, 08:19 PM
I dunno guys....some of the fighters will be champions in year or two. Don't miss it. This is a very young card.

Rip-Hamilton32
11-15-2007, 08:21 PM
I dunno guys....some of the fighters will be champions in year or two. Don't miss it. This is a very young card.maybe so but evans and bisping are overrated right now, who knows maybe they will get better but right now they shouldn't be in a main event

koopa
11-15-2007, 11:50 PM
i think this is good for evans and bisping to be in the main event, if they are the future for this company it's good to throw them in and see if they can handle being the main event and see if they can step their game up when everyone is watching them on ppv's

oligarchy
11-16-2007, 11:24 AM
maybe so but evans and bisping are overrated right now, who knows maybe they will get better but right now they shouldn't be in a main event

I don't think he means Evans and Bisping. I think he's referring more to people like Chonan, Karo, Frank Edgar, Fisher.

I think most people dislike Evans' fighting style. Bisping, I think most people know why he is disliked.

ATRAIN
11-16-2007, 01:29 PM
I actually want to see if for Alexander............he is a BEAST!!!

Evan
11-16-2007, 02:21 PM
maybe so but evans and bisping are overrated right now, who knows maybe they will get better but right now they shouldn't be in a main event

I don't think anyone is overrating them to be honest. I have never heard anyone say they are champions. Just young and up and comers.

But once again, this main event was supposed to be Wandy Vs Chuck, then Evans Vs Tito, and now it is what it is.

Evan
11-16-2007, 02:22 PM
I don't think he means Evans and Bisping. I think he's referring more to people like Chonan, Karo, Frank Edgar, Fisher.

Mainly. Especially Karo.

oligarchy
11-16-2007, 02:34 PM
Mainly. Especially Karo.

Karo a future champ? GSP has something to say about that.. :lol

Let's see how he does tomorrow. Chonan is a pretty tough guy, people think this is a gimme for Karo, but it's going to be a tough fight. I wouldn't be suprised or shocked in the slightest if Chonan wins (I had a tough time picking this fight). Chonan is almost as tough to close as Lytle -- A. Silva was working him good and got caught with that heel hook.

Evan
11-16-2007, 03:43 PM
Karo a future champ? GSP has something to say about that.. :lol

Of course he does


........... and so does a spare like Matt Serra.

oligarchy
11-16-2007, 04:05 PM
Of course he does


........... and so does a spare like Matt Serra.

zing!

Evan
11-16-2007, 04:07 PM
wOOt!

djohn14
11-17-2007, 12:30 PM
I hope Thiago Alves gets a quick KO so we can see his fight. He is a great young fighter. The thing about this card is it dosent stand out because of the lack of big names. There is no Iceman, Ortiz, Rampage, but these guys are the future. Also look out for Tamden McCory.

2centsworth
11-17-2007, 06:43 PM
watching the countdown and i want to see the alexander silva fight.

leonard where are they showing the fights?

tlongII
11-17-2007, 11:05 PM
SHORT FUSE!

dallaskd
11-18-2007, 12:59 AM
wow i like how my predictions were horrible. :lol
Its alll good. im glad alexander got put in line.

dallaskd
11-18-2007, 12:59 AM
its all good. sokoudjou baby!!!!

Evan
11-18-2007, 01:08 AM
I cant believe he wasn't there....

wow

anyway...next card...premo..!

koopa
11-18-2007, 02:18 AM
the only good fight for me was ed herman knocking out that dude

evans vs bisping bored the shit out of me

and damn houston alexander for sucking tonight

and damn i hate seeing karo win


i can't wait till december 8th to see roger hureta fight...

Evan
11-18-2007, 09:39 AM
Lackluster night. But another card is right around the corner.

tlongII
11-18-2007, 12:13 PM
It was a horrible show except for Short Fuse's knockout.

atxrocker
11-18-2007, 04:46 PM
i guess it's safe to say that my initial impression of this card was correct...

dallaskd
11-18-2007, 04:52 PM
I enjoyed 78. djohn14, where do you come off seeing something big in Tamden McCory?

cornbread
11-18-2007, 05:07 PM
Joe Lauzon and BJ Penn seem to make a good training combo. Lauzon's bjj looked very sharp.

I can't wait to see more of Thiago Silva.

tlongII
11-18-2007, 06:54 PM
I don't think I would like to fight anyone named Silva.

TheTruth
11-18-2007, 07:45 PM
Boring card. Hope the next one is better.

Evan
11-19-2007, 08:02 AM
Boring card. Hope the next one is better.

The next card is amazing.

-Matt Serra (#1 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Matt Hughes (#3 Welterweight in the World)*
-Chuck Liddell (#4 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Wanderlei Silva (#5 Light Heavyweight in the World)*
-Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou vs. Lyoto Machida
-Dean Lister vs. Jordan Radev
-Rich Clementi vs. Melvin Guillard
-Roan Carneiro vs. Tony DeSouza
-Nate Mohr vs. Manny Gamburyan
-Doug Evans vs. Mark Bocek
-Eddie Sanchez vs. Soa Palalei


Except for the scum bag Eddie "I ran away from Cro Cop" Sanchez.

LEONARD
11-19-2007, 02:17 PM
Still haven't seen all the fights...only a few so far. Read the p-b-p's for the others so far...

Some vid's are up here...
http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/

Glad to see Houston Alexander get exposed...Chute Boxe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I realize he's switched to Link now, but still...that's where he started)

Lauzon is a beast...gotta root for him...always. He just doesn't mess around, but it's not like it's an uncontrolled brawl...when he gets a chance for a choke, he just sinks it in...

Very surprised that Gono won...the UFC completely set him up to fail with that matchup. Gono needs to move to LW if at all possible. He's a tough little bastard, but too small for 170 lbs.

I was hoping Doerksen would win...tough dude that's just never gotten over the hump.

Very surprised at how Fisher was dominated...

I don't think Evans or Bisping will ever be champs at LHW...

I can't wait to see Alves-Lytle...I just love watching Alves' low kicks...BRUTAL

Glad to see Aurelio get a win...

oligarchy
11-19-2007, 02:43 PM
It's funny how some fights on paper appeared that they would be good (Fisher v Edgar) but turned out not as exciting. Overall, the aired fights weren't very good. I wish Karo and Evans lost, but that's the way it goes.

LEONARD
11-19-2007, 05:48 PM
Sherdog’s Minute-by-Minute…funny as always…
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=10038

dallaskd
11-19-2007, 10:01 PM
Sherdog’s Minute-by-Minute…funny as always…
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=10038

:lmao

desflood
11-20-2007, 09:51 AM
Sherdog’s Minute-by-Minute…funny as always…
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=10038
Very good. Once again, they've successfully captured how abysmal the whole night really was :lol