I have a sneaking suspicion...

[tlongII]

that Oden will be back before the end of this season. His re-hab is going terrific and it was a relatively minor injury as far as micro-fracture goes.

[jman3000]

that would be retarded. even if he's read to go, i'd still rather him stay the season out.. as opposed to bringing him back early. why would you even fathom that with all the other players who've been screwed like that?

[timvp]

No chance. That'd be amazingly stupid. The Suns brought Stoudemire back early and that was a disaster. In fact, his injury to his other knee can be traced back to being brought back too early.

Microfracture surgery isn't as horrible as some make it out to be but you have to take plenty of time. The ones who could never get back to normalcy were the ones who came back too soon.

[JamStone]

He won't. Your suspicion is wrong. And, if it were right, Portland's management would be the dumbest fucks in sports history.

[eisfeld]

I was really looking forward to see him play in the NBA, but I hope he stays out the entire season of his own sake. I hope too that he isn't going to be an injury prone player. Nevertheless, I'm not expecting him to have a great impact from the beginning, but if he stays healthy he will be a major contribute the next 2-3 seaons.

[bdictjames]

If its successful, that would be great. An 8-seeded Portland team would probably go and knock out #1 seeded Houston,or Dallas, or Phoenix (hopefully not SA)

[da_suns_fan__]

tlongII,

As a Suns fan, my advice to you would be to just let it go and accept that he's not going to be back this year.

Amare Stoudemire is a freak of nature and he still took over a year to get back to about 90%.

During his rehab, we heard endless insider stories that he was 4 weeks ahead of schedule etc. There were Suns fans speculating that we might see him in late January. Then reality set in. A microfracture is still a microfracture.

[monosylab1k]

During his rehab, we heard endless insider stories that he was 4 weeks ahead of schedule etc.
and then the book came out which revealed that Amare could have returned just fine if he put more effort into his rehab. His own laziness caused him to return too "soon" because he didn't want to put in the work during rehab.

i doubt oden is a mental midget like amare, so he'll work his ass off to get back to 100% ASAP

[Findog]

tlongII,

As a Suns fan, my advice to you would be to just let it go and accept that he's not going to be back this year.

Amare Stoudemire is a freak of nature and he still took over a year to get back to about 90%.

During his rehab, we heard endless insider stories that he was 4 weeks ahead of schedule etc. There were Suns fans speculating that we might see him in late January. Then reality set in. A microfracture is still a microfracture.

The ER episode where Amare guest stars to have his knee scoped got better ratings than the ER where Greg Oden underwent microfracture surgery. Plus, the one with Greg Oden was boring.

[tlongII]

Oden's MF surgery was less serious than Amare's. It was a very small area that they performed the technique on. It only makes sense that if it was less serious then recovery time would not be as long. Add to that the fact that GO is a work out freak and I can easily envision a scenario in which he returns this season.

[picnroll]

They billed Amare's as an extrmely small area too. Blazers need to tank a few more seasons to stock up on lottery players.

[jman3000]

Oden's MF surgery was less serious than Amare's. It was a very small area that they performed the technique on. It only makes sense that if it was less serious then recovery time would not be as long. Add to that the fact that GO is a work out freak and I can easily envision a scenario in which he returns this season.
well that scenario is extremely retarded. you'd be risking a potential franchise player for an extra few meaningless games at the end of the season. even IF portland makes it to the playoffs without oden... his incorporation wouldnt be a smooth one and might hurt the familiarity a blazer team would have.

[tlongII]

well that scenario is extremely retarded. you'd be risking a potential franchise player for an extra few meaningless games at the end of the season. even IF portland makes it to the playoffs without oden... his incorporation wouldnt be a smooth one and might hurt the familiarity a blazer team would have.

Dude, it's up the doctors. I will trust their judgment. If they think he'll be fine I'm sure he will.

[Nashfan]

and then the book came out which revealed that Amare could have returned just fine if he put more effort into his rehab. His own laziness caused him to return too "soon" because he didn't want to put in the work during rehab.

i doubt oden is a mental midget like amare, so he'll work his ass off to get back to 100% ASAP

I guess I shouldn't be surprised by your post but you need to think before you post. Amare put in the effort and wasn't lazy (yes, I read the book, can't believe everything you read in that book). No, he could not have returned just fine if he put more effort into his rehab as you put it. It takes a long time for people to come back from microfracture surgery and it is not wise to push them to come back too soon. Amare came back to soon because he loves to play the game, but it was a big mistake. I love your demeaning of Amare, stay classy. :rolleyes

[Tippecanoe]

that Oden will be back before the end of this season. His re-hab is going terrific and it was a relatively minor injury as far as micro-fracture goes.

see Stoudemire, Amare circa 2006

[Nashfan]

No chance. That'd be amazingly stupid. The Suns brought Stoudemire back early and that was a disaster. In fact, his injury to his other knee can be traced back to being brought back too early.

Microfracture surgery isn't as horrible as some make it out to be but you have to take plenty of time. The ones who could never get back to normalcy were the ones who came back too soon.

You are wrong about his problems with his right knee being traced back to being brought back too early. He was diagnosed with a Baker's cyst at the time and needed surgery to remove it. :)

[ShoogarBear]

If the Blazers tried to bring Oden back this year, that would cement their curse status. What would be the point?


You are wrong about his problems with his right knee being traced back to being brought back too early. He was diagnosed with a Baker's cyst at the time and needed surgery to remove it.

Uh, a Baker's cyst in a young athlete is almost always due to a knee effusion. Which would result from knee degeneration or a meniscal tear, probably from being brought back too soon.

[tlongII]

If the Blazers tried to bring Oden back this year, that would cement their curse status. What would be the point?



Uh, a Baker's cyst in a young athlete is almost always due to a knee effusion. Which would result from knee degeneration or a meniscal tear, probably from being brought back too soon.

With Oden healthy we could do serious damage in the playoffs. That's the point!

[ShoogarBear]

With Oden healthy we could do serious damage in the playoffs.Yes, yes, you certainly could. But not in the way you're thinking.


That's the point!Indeed.

[tlongII]

Come on Shoog! You're a Doctor! Certainly you can agree with the idea that he could come back early since his injury is less serious?

[ShoogarBear]

My viewpoint is a smart sports fan's viewpoint.

Oden is a guy you try to win championships with. Not, "have a good team", but "win the whole thing". Portland will not win the title this year. The small amount of benefit you get by giving him some experience now is more than outweighed by the risk that he will be playing too early.

Bring him back next year after maximum healing time and you maximize the future chances with him.

[tlongII]

My viewpoint is a smart sports fan's viewpoint.

Oden is a guy you try to win championships with. Not, "have a good team", but "win the whole thing". Portland will not win the title this year. The small amount of benefit you get by giving him some experience now is more than outweighed by the risk that he will be playing too early.

Bring him back next year after maximum healing time and you maximize the future chances with him.

Cop out.

[Fillmoe]

lol, i hope you are just kidding. the blazers aren't going to take that risk and possibly fuck up their future.

[monosylab1k]

Amare put in the effort and wasn't lazy (yes, I read the book, can't believe everything you read in that book).
:lmao I'd expect Sun fan to say that. So what parts am I supposed to believe? The Nash and D'Antoni suckfests? I guess all the parts that out Marion, Amare, & Raja Bell as big-time douches are the parts that can't be believed. Only believe the parts that portray Nash as holier than Jesus, right Sun fan?

[Johnny RIngo]

Oden's already guaranteed to be a better player than Amare because:

1. He actually plays defense

2. He's not a dumbass

[eisfeld]

My viewpoint is a smart sports fan's viewpoint.

Oden is a guy you try to win championships with. Not, "have a good team", but "win the whole thing". Portland will not win the title this year. The small amount of benefit you get by giving him some experience now is more than outweighed by the risk that he will be playing too early.

Bring him back next year after maximum healing time and you maximize the future chances with him.

I second that!

[da_suns_fan__]

Oden's MF surgery was less serious than Amare's. It was a very small area that they performed the technique on. It only makes sense that if it was less serious then recovery time would not be as long. Add to that the fact that GO is a work out freak and I can easily envision a scenario in which he returns this season.

Are you sure about that...all we heard was about how Amare's surgery was less serious than any that had been done before and how small the size of the incision was.

Like I said, I would just expect that he won't play this year.

[Johnny RIngo]

Are you sure about that...all we heard was about how Amare's surgery was less serious than any that had been done before and how small the size of the incision was.

Like I said, I would just expect that he won't play this year.

Amare's a lazy sack of shit with the IQ of a housefly. Oden will recover quicker than Stoudewhiner did.

[sunsfansaregay]

Are you sure about that...all we heard was about how Amare's surgery was less serious than any that had been done before and how small the size of the incision was.

Like I said, I would just expect that he won't play this year.
You're gay.

[Nashfan]

:lmao I'd expect Sun fan to say that. So what parts am I supposed to believe? The Nash and D'Antoni suckfests? I guess all the parts that out Marion, Amare, & Raja Bell as big-time douches are the parts that can't be believed. Only believe the parts that portray Nash as holier than Jesus, right Sun fan?

I believe Amare is the second fastest player to come back from this type of surgery (Jason Kidd is first, I think). If Amare was lazy I don't think he would have been able to play all 82 games last year after one year off. He works his butt off in the offseason also. You are just an idiot who has an agenda against anyone who plays for the Suns. If you want to look at a wussy look at one of your own players (Dirk). :rolleyes

[sunsfansaregay]

I believe Amare is the second fastest player to come back from this type of surgery (Jason Kidd is first, I think). If Amare was lazy I don't think he would have been able to play all 82 games last year after one year off. He works his butt off in the offseason also. You are just an idiot who has an agenda against anyone who plays for the Suns. If you want to look at a wussy look at one of your own players (Dirk). :rolleyes
You're gay.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

What the hell! let them bring him back this year. He won't be able to get accustomed to the NBA in such a short time to make a palpable difference this season, and he'll probably re-injure himself and fuck up a potentially great career... but anything to please dumb ass Portland fans that don't have any patience.

[monosylab1k]

I believe Amare is the second fastest player to come back from this type of surgery (Jason Kidd is first, I think). If Amare was lazy I don't think he would have been able to play all 82 games last year after one year off. He works his butt off in the offseason also. You are just an idiot who has an agenda against anyone who plays for the Suns. If you want to look at a wussy look at one of your own players (Dirk). :rolleyes
I was just saying exactly what was reported in the book - that the Suns coaching staff and doctors were getting frustrated with Amare's lack of effort during his rehab. They also said that if he worked harder, he wouldn't have suffered with the failed comeback and made things worse for himself. I was stating exactly what was in the book you homer fuck.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Zero sense in rushing him back. Hell, if you hold him out until next year then you can essentially reuse the "Oden's NBA debut" hype and use it to sell the next season. Bring him back this spring and he's just going to look slow and out of synch against guys who have been playing for six months already. Who wants to see that?

[jmard5]

It is better to err on the side of caution.

[tlongII]

If he's ready to come back, he's ready to come back. It's as simple as that.

[ChumpDumper]

He's a doctor now?

[JamStone]

If he's ready to come back, he's ready to come back. It's as simple as that.

Famous last words ... Grant Hill approved

[Kriz-Maxima]

Bringing him this season would be the stupidest thing the Blazers could do. I dont see how a reasonable person would think otherwise.

[tlongII]

I see we have a lot of orthopedic physicians posting in here! NICE!

[Kriz-Maxima]

you being the first one. So sad that you care so little about that kid's future.

[ShoogarBear]

Hey, if he doesn't play until next year, does he qualify for the ROY award?

[tlongII]

Hey, if he doesn't play until next year, does he qualify for the ROY award?

Yes. If he doesn't play this year he is eligible for R.O.Y. next year.

[ShoogarBear]

Well, there's another reason. Those ROY awards are needed for the Blazers' trophy case.

[Jason_Terry]

He could come back and the Blazers could kick the shit out of the Spurs. Ain't nobody beating Dallas this year in the playoffs

[ShoogarBear]

He could come back and the Blazers could kick the shit out of the Spurs. Ain't nobody beating Dallas this year in the playoffshttp://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2006_07_warriors1.jpg

[Kamnik]

Yes. If he doesn't play this year he is eligible for R.O.Y. next year.

fuck ROY

blazers have bigger potential next year than such meaningless awards

[sendman]

fuck ROY

blazers have bigger potential next year than such meaningless awards

Who is ROY, and why should he be fucked?
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