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jackseven
11-20-2007, 10:37 PM
So I was playing hold'em online the other day and I get pocket 6's and go all in three handed.

Some guy calls me with a ragged AKo and catches the luckiest King I've ever seen on the flop.

I can't believe he called me with that. I guess if luck wasn't involved I'd never loose.

That lucky king cost me $327.

thispego
11-20-2007, 10:41 PM
why not call all in with big slick?

jackseven
11-20-2007, 10:44 PM
why not call all in with big slick?

Unspoken rule of poker. Only amateurs call with kournikova. In that situation, you know your probably 50/50 at best. It's just a weak play, dude.

scott
11-20-2007, 11:23 PM
You're the moron who went all in with pocket 6's. I mean... seriously.

2centsworth
11-20-2007, 11:48 PM
when has that ever been considered a bad beat? Nevertheless, get used to beats.

jackseven
11-20-2007, 11:59 PM
when has that ever been considered a bad beat? Nevertheless, get used to beats.

52-48. Bad beat.

jackseven
11-21-2007, 12:00 AM
You're the moron who went all in with pocket 6's. I mean... seriously.

Seriously bro.

MannyIsGod
11-21-2007, 09:12 AM
:lol

This thread is funny.

batman2883
11-21-2007, 09:20 AM
I challenge the Motorcity Cobra Thomas The Hitman Hearns for the Welterweight championship of the world!!!!

Jimcs50
11-21-2007, 12:47 PM
:lol


"The luckiest king you ever saw"???

I got eliminated in the WSOP in June when my 77 lost to AK on the river when the king spiked. The river beat is much worse than a flop beat.

You have a 50-50 chance to catch an ace or a king with AK by the river, so you getting beat my AK is not a bad beat...it happens.

This is a bad beat:


We play a 1-3 NL game on Monday nights. I am in BB. Griffey,who is to my left raises it up to $9.00 and we get two callers before me, so I look down and see A-3 clubs, so I call.

The Flop:

6-3-3

I bet $10, Griffey calls, player 3 folds, and the Button raises to $25( :hungry:) I call, as does Griffey.
Turn:

2

A good card for me, so I bet $50, Griffey calls, the BB folds. Red flag now(could Griffey have 6-3 or 2-3???)

River:

Ace :elephant


I bet $85, Griffey raises to $170( what the fuck???) I push all in for my last $75 or so, and the fucker had 6-6 for a bigger full house.

That was the only hand I worried about, because had he had AA, he would not have been in hand at turn when me and the BB were betting it up.


Manny, what would you have done in my spot?

thispego
11-21-2007, 01:49 PM
Unspoken rule of poker. Only amateurs call with kournikova. In that situation, you know your probably 50/50 at best. It's just a weak play, dude.
not when your three handed and it's pre-flop. not to mention if the guy has plenty of chips to play with. this happens on like every hand when i play online poker

drunkendan
11-21-2007, 01:52 PM
This was the craziest most gut wrenching hand I've ever played. We were playing heads up and the guy I was playing had twice as many chips as I did.

I go all-in with pocket 5's, he calls with QJ suited.

I flop trips, he gets a pair

On the turn he yells cuz he gets trips, then I yell cuz I realize I have a full house.

I pretty much have this in the bag and on the river comes the last jack!!!!

I begin to cry....f*%kin river.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l16/dramos04/04190614.jpg

jackseven
11-21-2007, 02:08 PM
brahs, my table rep should have prevented calling with AK. He knew I had the goods. He should have laid it down NQA.

Jimcs50
11-21-2007, 03:24 PM
This was the craziest most gut wrenching hand I've ever played. We were playing heads up and the guy I was playing had twice as many chips as I did.

I go all-in with pocket 5's, he calls with QJ suited.

I flop trips, he gets a pair

On the turn he yells cuz he gets trips, then I yell cuz I realize I have a full house.

I pretty much have this in the bag and on the river comes the last jack!!!!

I begin to cry....f*%kin river.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l16/dramos04/04190614.jpg


That is sick. How much did you lose in that hand?

phyzik
11-21-2007, 06:11 PM
This was the craziest most gut wrenching hand I've ever played. We were playing heads up and the guy I was playing had twice as many chips as I did.

I go all-in with pocket 5's, he calls with QJ suited.

I flop trips, he gets a pair

On the turn he yells cuz he gets trips, then I yell cuz I realize I have a full house.

I pretty much have this in the bag and on the river comes the last jack!!!!

I begin to cry....f*%kin river.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l16/dramos04/04190614.jpg

OUCH!

drunkendan
11-25-2007, 08:53 PM
That is sick. How much did you lose in that hand?

It was just a small $20 tourney. I was short-stacked playing heads up so if I won that hand I would've had a chance to win $200.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-26-2007, 02:58 AM
Okay then, how's this:

Playing $2-3 at a casino with $200 in my kitty. I am on the button, there are two callers, I call, then small pays and big checks. I have 9-10 hearts.

10c 8d 7d

Checks around to me, I bet $20 and get called by two players.

10s

Trips! Still got the straight draw and no flush out yet. Nice. Easily beaten by a good kicker, but it doesn't feel like anyone hit, so I bet $50, one fold, seat seat 7 raises all-in and I... call.

10d

Quads! OMG! And then he turns over...

Jd 9d

Mmmmmm-hmmmmm.

Sure, I should've gotten out of the hand on the turn given that I was beaten by A/K/Q/J-10, but it had an aura about it. :lmao

I won the money back, and more, 4 days later while watching the Spurs and Cleveland in game 3, possibly the ugliest 4th quarter of all time.

E20
11-26-2007, 03:05 AM
I once had pocket aces and the dude had pocket aces.

Yup, then I went all in and he called, then the flop came up all aces and we both lost somehow to a dude with 3-7. :pctoss

E20
11-26-2007, 03:08 AM
Okay then, how's this:

Playing $2-3 at a casino with $200 in my kitty. I am on the button, there are two callers, I call, then small pays and big checks. I have 9-10 hearts.

10c 8d 7d

Checks around to me, I bet $20 and get called by two players.

10s

Trips! Still got the straight draw and no flush out yet. Nice. Easily beaten by a good kicker, but it doesn't feel like anyone hit, so I bet $50, one fold, seat seat 7 raises all-in and I... call.

10d

Quads! OMG! And then he turns over...

Jd 9d

Mmmmmm-hmmmmm.

Sure, I should've gotten out of the hand on the turn given that I was beaten by A/K/Q/J-10, but it had an aura about it. :lmao

I won the money back, and more, 4 days later while watching the Spurs and Cleveland in game 3, possibly the ugliest 4th quarter of all time.
So you won or lost with Quad 10's or did you lose in another hand? That was kind of confusing.

blizz
11-26-2007, 03:12 AM
You're the moron who went all in with pocket 6's. I mean... seriously.
lol no shit....that is NOT a bad call.....you're just a horrible player...period.

Kori Ellis
11-26-2007, 03:45 AM
So you won or lost with Quad 10's or did you lose in another hand? That was kind of confusing.

He had Quad 10's but lost to the straight flush.

Jimcs50
11-26-2007, 01:08 PM
He had Quad 10's but lost to the straight flush.

In most casinos, there is a bad beat jackpot. Did you not have one there? I would love to have quads beaten in a casino, most of the jackpots are thousands of dollars, some that I have seen have been up to 30K...

mrose31
11-26-2007, 01:34 PM
Okay then, how's this:

Playing $2-3 at a casino with $200 in my kitty. I am on the button, there are two callers, I call, then small pays and big checks. I have 9-10 hearts.

10c 8d 7d

Checks around to me, I bet $20 and get called by two players.

10s

Trips! Still got the straight draw and no flush out yet. Nice. Easily beaten by a good kicker, but it doesn't feel like anyone hit, so I bet $50, one fold, seat seat 7 raises all-in and I... call.

10d

Quads! OMG! And then he turns over...

Jd 9d

Mmmmmm-hmmmmm.

Sure, I should've gotten out of the hand on the turn given that I was beaten by A/K/Q/J-10, but it had an aura about it. :lmao

I won the money back, and more, 4 days later while watching the Spurs and Cleveland in game 3, possibly the ugliest 4th quarter of all time.


No bad beat Jackpot?

MannyIsGod
11-26-2007, 02:02 PM
:lol


"The luckiest king you ever saw"???

I got eliminated in the WSOP in June when my 77 lost to AK on the river when the king spiked. The river beat is much worse than a flop beat.

You have a 50-50 chance to catch an ace or a king with AK by the river, so you getting beat my AK is not a bad beat...it happens.

This is a bad beat:


We play a 1-3 NL game on Monday nights. I am in BB. Griffey,who is to my left raises it up to $9.00 and we get two callers before me, so I look down and see A-3 clubs, so I call.

The Flop:

6-3-3

I bet $10, Griffey calls, player 3 folds, and the Button raises to $25( :hungry:) I call, as does Griffey.
Turn:

2

A good card for me, so I bet $50, Griffey calls, the BB folds. Red flag now(could Griffey have 6-3 or 2-3???)

River:

Ace :elephant


I bet $85, Griffey raises to $170( what the fuck???) I push all in for my last $75 or so, and the fucker had 6-6 for a bigger full house.

That was the only hand I worried about, because had he had AA, he would not have been in hand at turn when me and the BB were betting it up.


Manny, what would you have done in my spot?Fold preflop. OOP a suited ace in a multiway pot is a recipie for disaster. You'll win some small pots but you'll lose big ones.

As played on the flop I hate your bet. 10 dollars into a 36 dollar pot smells either really bad trapish or like you're trying to feel it out. I don't hate your bet as much as I hate the button's raise, but w/e. Once they both call you have to start wondering what they have and 66 is one hell of a possiblity here as are bigger pairs. You don't give the suits but if there was a flush draw I could also see 4-5 or a flush draw especially if it was an OE straight flush draw.

Your weak bet on the turn kills me too. If he's going to call half a pot, why won't he call a full put bet? If you think you're ahead - bet as much as you think he'll call. You're either way ahead here with him having an overpair or draw. The only other hand I an concievbly put him on is 66. 2-3 or 6-3? Why on earth would anyone raise from UTG with that? Doesn't make sense. AA-99 (really probably 77), 45, 66, or some Axs with a flush draw are the only hands that make any sense. Anyway - rambling but bet more next time. Especially if you're pushing no matter what comes on the river.

River seals your fate but when I see it I puke because it really doesn't help you. Its a card you hate to see. It might make him think twice about getting the rest in with KK-77 and it just made AA a winner. 66 is still beating you and you're not getting anymore money from any draws because they all missed. So basically while you see that A on the river as a great card, its actually a shitty card. It doesn't make your hand any more likely to win and it actually makes it more likely that your opponent has just drawn out on you or will be less likely to pay you off. All the more reason to get your money in on the turn.

So after all that you should basically throw those hands away OOP. On the button you can play them much more in multiway pots like that, but from the blinds its just a way to lose your money.

MannyIsGod
11-26-2007, 02:06 PM
Okay then, how's this:

Playing $2-3 at a casino with $200 in my kitty. I am on the button, there are two callers, I call, then small pays and big checks. I have 9-10 hearts.

10c 8d 7d

Checks around to me, I bet $20 and get called by two players.

10s

Trips! Still got the straight draw and no flush out yet. Nice. Easily beaten by a good kicker, but it doesn't feel like anyone hit, so I bet $50, one fold, seat seat 7 raises all-in and I... call.

10d

Quads! OMG! And then he turns over...

Jd 9d

Mmmmmm-hmmmmm.

Sure, I should've gotten out of the hand on the turn given that I was beaten by A/K/Q/J-10, but it had an aura about it. :lmao

I won the money back, and more, 4 days later while watching the Spurs and Cleveland in game 3, possibly the ugliest 4th quarter of all time.Are you kidding me? Never fold that turn! Never never never! 3 10s on the board you shouldn't worry about being out kicked. If it happens it happens. You played it fine. Only thing I would have done differnetly woudl have been to raise preflop. Dude hit the one outer, that sucks balls any way you slice it.

E20
11-26-2007, 03:18 PM
Yeah instead of writing D's and S's write diamonds and spades for hte people who are dumb thanks in advance.

Soul_Patch
11-26-2007, 03:37 PM
Whoa....spurs talk has turned into 2+2

Jimcs50
11-26-2007, 03:47 PM
Fold preflop. OOP a suited ace in a multiway pot is a recipie for disaster. You'll win some small pots but you'll lose big ones.

As played on the flop I hate your bet. 10 dollars into a 36 dollar pot smells either really bad trapish or like you're trying to feel it out. I don't hate your bet as much as I hate the button's raise, but w/e. Once they both call you have to start wondering what they have and 66 is one hell of a possiblity here as are bigger pairs. You don't give the suits but if there was a flush draw I could also see 4-5 or a flush draw especially if it was an OE straight flush draw.

Your weak bet on the turn kills me too. If he's going to call half a pot, why won't he call a full put bet? If you think you're ahead - bet as much as you think he'll call. You're either way ahead here with him having an overpair or draw. The only other hand I an concievbly put him on is 66. 2-3 or 6-3? Why on earth would anyone raise from UTG with that? Doesn't make sense. AA-99 (really probably 77), 45, 66, or some Axs with a flush draw are the only hands that make any sense. Anyway - rambling but bet more next time. Especially if you're pushing no matter what comes on the river.

River seals your fate but when I see it I puke because it really doesn't help you. Its a card you hate to see. It might make him think twice about getting the rest in with KK-77 and it just made AA a winner. 66 is still beating you and you're not getting anymore money from any draws because they all missed. So basically while you see that A on the river as a great card, its actually a shitty card. It doesn't make your hand any more likely to win and it actually makes it more likely that your opponent has just drawn out on you or will be less likely to pay you off. All the more reason to get your money in on the turn.

So after all that you should basically throw those hands away OOP. On the button you can play them much more in multiway pots like that, but from the blinds its just a way to lose your money.

Manny, there was no flush draw at all, there was a straight draw with 2 on the turn, if they had 45, not likely though. I wanted them to have a big pair, because I had them crushed if that is what they had. I love suited aces in a multi way pot if the ace's kicker is 2,3,4 or 5...(a draw to a wheel)

Manny I liked the river, because I really had him on 6-3 after his call on the turn. You do not know how many different and crappy hands are played in the groups of guys I play with. They can have just about anything preflop, especially if there are 4 or 5 in the pot. I play with a bunch of Sammy Farhas, who will play anything. They are good players because they will not continue to play the hands unless they flop monsters(like I did) or some draw to a monster.

I think I played it ok, but just got unlucky to run into one of only 2 hands that had me crushed(AA, 66), after the river.

drunkendan
11-26-2007, 03:55 PM
What do you guys mainly play at casinos, cash games or tourneys? I do so much better when I play cash games.

Jimcs50
11-26-2007, 09:24 PM
What do you guys mainly play at casinos, cash games or tourneys? I do so much better when I play cash games.


I have only played in 2 tourneys at casinos besides the WSOP last year. I made Final table both times, so I like tourneys, but cash games are good because you are not just stuck playing one place all night. Both times I played in tourneys, I played at least 6 hrs, so you better have nothing to do for a long time if you play a tourney.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-27-2007, 01:13 AM
Yeah instead of writing D's and S's write diamonds and spades for hte people who are dumb thanks in advance.

But I thought you were the (book) smartest person on the board! Just kidding, I actually like you, E20. :)

Thanks Manny, and you're right, you play the turn because most times you're leading. However, pre-flop raise to thin the field is a bit dodgy with 9-10 suited, no? You also have to worry about the buttons, so that's 4 potential callers of your semi-bluff, and you'd need to bet $40+ to give yourself a decent chance of pushing the others out (typical pre-flop raises in that game were $15-35).

And no, in America there are bad beat jackpots, out here no such luck. :( I've explained how cheap that is to the pit bosses, and they agree, but the casino is stingy. US Casinos >>>>>>>>>>> Oz Casinos

MannyIsGod
11-27-2007, 01:15 AM
Whoa....spurs talk has turned into 2+2:lol

MannyIsGod
11-27-2007, 01:19 AM
But I thought you were the (book) smartest person on the board! Just kidding, I actually like you, E20. :)

Thanks Manny, and you're right, you play the turn because most times you're leading. However, pre-flop raise to thin the field is a bit dodgy with 9-10 suited, no? You also have to worry about the buttons, so that's 4 potential callers of your semi-bluff, and you'd need to bet $40+ to give yourself a decent chance of pushing the others out (typical pre-flop raises in that game were $15-35).

And no, in America there are bad beat jackpots, out here no such luck. :( I've explained how cheap that is to the pit bosses, and they agree, but the casino is stingy. US Casinos >>>>>>>>>>> Oz CasinosLimpers suck. Calling isn't BAD per say its just not the best play imo. If you raise you take the lead in the hand and you don't need to hit to win. You have position and a very nice hand so I see no reason to play it weakly. Aggression gives you opportunities to win pots you would otherwise not win. It also helps build a bigger pot which helps when playing draws. I really just don't like passive play though. Raising with these hands helps disguise my other hands as well against semi lucid opponents.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-27-2007, 01:30 AM
I just remembered another one from my last trip to America.

I was playing the $65 midday tournament at the MGM Grand, generally 80 to 100 players, doing quite well at the start of the third level with about 6,000 chips and a nice strong table image from turning over winning cards.

Last hand I had won 1500 off the guy to my left, now the small blind with about 5000 chips.

I was on the button, picked up JJ, one caller mid-table, I raised to 800 and small blind called after a lot of thought. Other caller then folded.

J 6 3 rainbow

Trips! :) I bet 1200, he raises all in and I call in an instant. He flips over AJ offsuit.

What were the turn and river?

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-27-2007, 01:31 AM
Limpers suck. Calling isn't BAD per say its just not the best play imo. If you raise you take the lead in the hand and you don't need to hit to win. You have position and a very nice hand so I see no reason to play it weakly. Aggression gives you opportunities to win pots you would otherwise not win. It also helps build a bigger pot which helps when playing draws. I really just don't like passive play though. Raising with these hands helps disguise my other hands as well against semi lucid opponents.

Very true. :tu

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
11-27-2007, 01:33 AM
it'd be nice to have another spurstalk poker tourney.

What site you playing at now Manny?

MannyIsGod
11-27-2007, 01:42 AM
Full Tilt and Stars only. The games suck now. Fuck you Bill Frist.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
11-27-2007, 02:06 AM
Full Tilt and Stars only. The games suck now. Fuck you Bill Frist.

Yea man... the whole absolute "potripper" scandal isnt helping very much

duncan_21
11-27-2007, 05:09 AM
Donk: Man I took a bad beat.
Me: Uh huh *oh god please don't tell me a bad beat story, I hate bad beat stories.*
Donk: Well, see I had 66.
Me: ok *shit he's going to tell me he took a bad beat*
Donk: Ok, so I move all in with 66 and this guy calls me..
Me: *Must have lost to A5-A2 or a smaller pp*
Donk: He calls me with AK!!!!
Me: *it was a fucking coin flip you funking donkey, probably a tournament too, the AK call was super standard, a;lkruaowign40[gho*
Donk: He hit the luckiest K ever.
Me: That sucks.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-27-2007, 06:13 AM
Donk: Man I took a bad beat.
Me: Uh huh *oh god please don't tell me a bad beat story, I hate bad beat stories.*
Donk: Well, see I had 66.
Me: ok *shit he's going to tell me he took a bad beat*
Donk: Ok, so I move all in with 66 and this guy calls me..
Me: *Must have lost to A5-A2 or a smaller pp*
Donk: He calls me with AK!!!!
Me: *it was a fucking coin flip you funking donkey, probably a tournament too, the AK call was super standard, a;lkruaowign40[gho*
Donk: He hit the luckiest K ever.
Me: That sucks.

Read mine, they were REAL bad beat stories, especially the quads beaten by straight flush. I looked up the numbers on that one and I think it was 260,000-1.

Jimcs50
11-29-2007, 04:41 PM
I just remembered another one from my last trip to America.

I was playing the $65 midday tournament at the MGM Grand, generally 80 to 100 players, doing quite well at the start of the third level with about 6,000 chips and a nice strong table image from turning over winning cards.

Last hand I had won 1500 off the guy to my left, now the small blind with about 5000 chips.

I was on the button, picked up JJ, one caller mid-table, I raised to 800 and small blind called after a lot of thought. Other caller then folded.

J 6 3 rainbow

Trips! :) I bet 1200, he raises all in and I call in an instant. He flips over AJ offsuit.

What were the turn and river?


I guess runner runner aces?

Jimcs50
12-05-2007, 03:54 PM
Played last night in a game that is pretty much a tough group that plays on Tuesdays.

No bullshit, in 2 hrs of playing, I got pocket aces 4 times, pocket kings 4 times and Qs twice....the odds of this are astronomical, considering the odds against getting AA is 220-1, and I only played probably 40-50 hands in that 2 hrs.

Unfortunately, my aces got cracked two times to fluhes and straights. My kings got cracked 3 times to straights and one flush.

But my bad beat story is my last hand of the night.


I rebought for $200 after I lost my first $200 with my pocket aces against a straight on the turn.

1-2 no limit game

I had $230 in front of me in middle position(10 handed) Cy, who is very very loose and agressive opened under the gun for $22 (his usuall raise), everyone folded to me, I knew Cy did not have a premium hand, and when I looked at my cards and saw QQ, I knew I had his ass. I reraised him to $100.(tired of having my premium hands cracked) Everyone folded to him and the fucker called me. :wtf

Flop was 2-3-4 rainbow.

Cy checked.

I knew he could have called preflop with someting like A-(2-3 or 4), so I pushed the rest of my $130 all in.

Cy asked me what I had and went on and on about wanted to raise me(but I did not have any more chips and he knew that) He asked me if I had aces, blah blah blah.

I knew that I had his ass beat, because otherwisw he would have insta-called me.

Well he called and showed 5-6 clubs for the Nuts. I caught a meaningless Q on the river for trips.

What kind of idiot calls a 425% raise with 5-6 when he knew he was a 4.5-1 dog against any overpair, and knowing that I had only $230, where at best he would only get 2-1 on his money? I was pissed and just went home and kicked the dog. :)


Why do I play this game?

:bang

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
12-05-2007, 04:02 PM
Played last night in a game that is pretty much a tough group that plays on Tuesdays.

No bullshit, in 2 hrs of playing, I got pocket aces 4 times, pocket kings 4 times and Qs twice....the odds of this are astronomical, considering the odds against getting AA is 220-1, and I only played probably 40-50 hands in that 2 hrs.

Unfortunately, my aces got cracked two times to fluhes and straights. My kings got cracked 3 times to straights and one flush.

But my bad beat story is my last hand of the night.


I rebought for $200 after I lost my first $200 with my pocket aces against a straight on the turn.

1-2 no limit game

I had $230 in front of me in middle position(10 handed) Cy, who is very very loose and agressive opened under the gun for $22 (his usuall raise), everyone folded to me, I knew Cy did not have a premium hand, and when I looked at my cards and saw QQ, I knew I had his ass. I reraised him to $100.(tired of having my premium hands cracked) Everyone folded to him and the fucker called me. :wtf

Flop was 2-3-4 rainbow.

Cy checked.

I knew he could have called preflop with someting like A-(2-3 or 4), so I pushed the rest of my $130 all in.

Cy asked me what I had and went on and on about wanted to raise me(but I did not have any more chips and he knew that) He asked me if I had aces, blah blah blah.

I knew that I had his ass beat, because otherwisw he would have insta-called me.

Well he called and showed 5-6 clubs for the Nuts. I caught a meaningless Q on the river for trips.

What kind of idiot calls a 425% raise with 5-6 when he knew he was a 4.5-1 dog against any overpair, and knowing that I had only $230, where at best he would only get 2-1 on his money? I was pissed and just went home and kicked the dog. :)


Why do I play this game?

:bang

Sounds like you got slowrolled

to21
12-05-2007, 04:22 PM
Played last night in a game that is pretty much a tough group that plays on Tuesdays.

No bullshit, in 2 hrs of playing, I got pocket aces 4 times, pocket kings 4 times and Qs twice....the odds of this are astronomical, considering the odds against getting AA is 220-1, and I only played probably 40-50 hands in that 2 hrs.

Unfortunately, my aces got cracked two times to fluhes and straights. My kings got cracked 3 times to straights and one flush.

But my bad beat story is my last hand of the night.


I rebought for $200 after I lost my first $200 with my pocket aces against a straight on the turn.

1-2 no limit game

I had $230 in front of me in middle position(10 handed) Cy, who is very very loose and agressive opened under the gun for $22 (his usuall raise), everyone folded to me, I knew Cy did not have a premium hand, and when I looked at my cards and saw QQ, I knew I had his ass. I reraised him to $100.(tired of having my premium hands cracked) Everyone folded to him and the fucker called me. :wtf

Flop was 2-3-4 rainbow.

Cy checked.

I knew he could have called preflop with someting like A-(2-3 or 4), so I pushed the rest of my $130 all in.

Cy asked me what I had and went on and on about wanted to raise me(but I did not have any more chips and he knew that) He asked me if I had aces, blah blah blah.

I knew that I had his ass beat, because otherwisw he would have insta-called me.

Well he called and showed 5-6 clubs for the Nuts. I caught a meaningless Q on the river for trips.

What kind of idiot calls a 425% raise with 5-6 when he knew he was a 4.5-1 dog against any overpair, and knowing that I had only $230, where at best he would only get 2-1 on his money? I was pissed and just went home and kicked the dog. :)


Why do I play this game?

:bang

Suited connectors played before preflop is not against the norm. If I was playing with you and my chip stack was very large, I might have called ur raise too. Especially if I made every else fold before your bet. If he had fired instead of the check maybe that would have thrown you off a bit and u would have not gone all in.

Regardless, you didn't play the had wrong....just had a bad beat. BTW, this is usually I go out too.

Jimcs50
12-05-2007, 04:38 PM
Suited connectors played before preflop is not against the norm. If I was playing with you and my chip stack was very large, I might have called ur raise too. Especially if I made every else fold before your bet. If he had fired instead of the check maybe that would have thrown you off a bit and u would have not gone all in.

Regardless, you didn't play the had wrong....just had a bad beat. BTW, this is usually I go out too.

I understand playing suited connectors against an overpair, but you better be getting at least 4-1 on your money or you will lose money doing this in the long run. You need multiple players in the pot to play those suited connectors against an overpair, in order to get value for your call. Since I had only $230 in front of me, he was only getting 2.3-1 odds on his money, if I went all in and he won, so he was actually only getting 50 cents on the dollar, that is not good poker....but he busted my ass, so more power to him.

:)

Phil Hellmuth
12-05-2007, 04:44 PM
sports betting bad beats are more painful than poker bad beats.

drunkendan
12-05-2007, 04:44 PM
For anyone who cares Chip Reese died yesterday.

Jimcs50
12-05-2007, 04:46 PM
For anyone who cares Chip Reese died yesterday.

LAS VEGAS (AP) - David "Chip" Reese, whose plans for a Stanford University business school degree were sidetracked by his success at high-stakes poker in Las Vegas, died in his sleep. He was 56.

Reese was found by his son early Tuesday at his Las Vegas home after suffering from symptoms of pneumonia, said poker great Doyle Brunson, his longtime friend.
"I knew him for 35 years, I never saw him get mad or raise his voice," Brunson said. "He had the most even disposition of anyone I've ever met. He's certainly the best poker player that ever lived."

After attending Dartmouth College, Reese was on his way to Stanford in the early 1970s when he stopped by a Las Vegas poker room and won big, said World Series of Poker media director Nolan Dalla.

"He just accidentally stumbled into Las Vegas and never left," Dalla said.


David "Chip" Reese is widely regarded as the best cash-game player in history. (Samantha Clemens / Associated Press)

His immediate success at cash games and low-key persona won him friends, even among those who wound up passing him their chips.

Despite winning three World Series champion's bracelets over the last four decades, including a $1.8 million HORSE event in 2005 that combines five poker disciplines, Reese focused on high-stakes cash games away from the limelight.

"I've seen him with a million dollars in front of him," said Dalla, describing how Reese would put out racks of $5,000 chips "like he was betting a few bucks."

Reese was part of a generation of players in the 1970s who challenged established greats like Brunson, Thomas "Amarillo Slim" Preston Jr. and Walter Clyde "Puggy" Pearson, Dalla said.

Brunson and Reese eventually became business partners, investing in everything from oil wells and mining to TV stations and racehorses and becoming sports betting consultants.

None of the ventures was successful, Brunson said.

"We went to look for the Titanic. We went to look for Noah's Ark. We were two of the biggest suckers whenever it came to business, but we both had poker to fall back on," Brunson said. "Thank God we could play, so we always survived."

Reese's prowess at both cash and tournament play was cemented with his 2005 win, said World Series of Poker commissioner Jeffrey Pollack.



"Many consider Chip the greatest cash-game player who ever lived," Pollack said in a statement. "His victory in the inaugural $50,000 buy-in HORSE championship ... made him a part of WSOP lore forever."

In addition to his son, Reese is survived by a daughter and a stepdaughter, Brunson said. He was recently divorced from his wife.

Services are planned for Friday in Las Vegas, Brunson said.








:depressed


This sucks, I loved that guy. He was a great player and was great to watch. I am sure Doyle, Barry and TJ are very depressed right now.

RIP chip

Phil Hellmuth
12-05-2007, 05:15 PM
R.I.P. Chip

RuffnReadyOzStyle
12-05-2007, 07:50 PM
JIm - yup, A A.

As for your beat, it's little consolation, but you want him to play that way. He'll rarely get lucky and you will mor than take your money back in the long run. :)

Jimcs50
12-06-2007, 07:32 PM
JIm - yup, A A.

As for your beat, it's little consolation, but you want him to play that way. He'll rarely get lucky and you will mor than take your money back in the long run. :)

Hope to.

:)