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xrayzebra
11-21-2007, 11:01 AM
May I take this opportunity to wish each and everyone of
you a very Happy Thanksgiving. I hope all of you where
ever you reside have a happy time with family and friends.

I, for all my junk, do enjoy each of you and wish to take
this time to say I am grateful and thankful that we all
get to share our views and interest with each other.

May God Bless Each of You and your families.

George Gervin's Afro
11-21-2007, 11:04 AM
May I take this opportunity to wish each and everyone of
you a very Happy Thanksgiving. I hope all of you where
ever you reside have a happy time with family and friends.

I, for all my junk, do enjoy each of you and wish to take
this time to say I am grateful and thankful that we all
get to share our views and interest with each other.

May God Bless Each of You and your families.


Same to you crazy ray.. :toast

clambake
11-21-2007, 11:07 AM
happy thanksgiving to you ray. lets eat. pass the oil, please.

Mr. Peabody
11-21-2007, 11:10 AM
May I take this opportunity to wish each and everyone of
you a very Happy Thanksgiving. I hope all of you where
ever you reside have a happy time with family and friends.

I, for all my junk, do enjoy each of you and wish to take
this time to say I am grateful and thankful that we all
get to share our views and interest with each other.

May God Bless Each of You and your families.

Take care ray and enjoy your holidays.

DarkReign
11-21-2007, 11:32 AM
Happt T-Day and all that glowing, happy rainbows and horse shit.

George Gervin's Afro
11-21-2007, 12:20 PM
Happt T-Day and all that glowing, happy rainbows and horse shit.



why do you have to bring gays ( happy rainbows) into ray's posts? we all know how ray feels about 'those' folks..

Walter Craparita
11-21-2007, 01:07 PM
Every rainbow I have ever seen has been frowning.

SA210
11-21-2007, 05:45 PM
happy thanksgiving to you ray. lets eat. pass the oil, please.
:lol

John Edwards and I wish you a Happy Thanksgiving Ray!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI2cdslvyi8

:toast

PixelPusher
11-22-2007, 12:16 AM
Turkey for you, and turkey for me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vdL233IcS8

BradLohaus
11-22-2007, 01:02 AM
May I take this opportunity to wish each and everyone of
you a very Happy Thanksgiving. I hope all of you where
ever you reside have a happy time with family and friends.

I, for all my junk, do enjoy each of you and wish to take
this time to say I am grateful and thankful that we all
get to share our views and interest with each other.

May God Bless Each of You and your families.

:tu

Wild Cobra
11-22-2007, 04:20 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to everoune as well.

Here is an interesting article:


Every year around this time, schoolchildren are taught about that wonderful day when Pilgrims and Native Americans shared the fruits of the harvest. "Isn't sharing wonderful?" say the teachers.

They miss the point.

Because of sharing, the first Thanksgiving in 1623 almost didn't happen.

The failure of Soviet communism is only the latest demonstration that freedom and property rights, not sharing, are essential to prosperity. The earliest European settlers in America had a dramatic demonstration of that lesson, but few people today know it.

When the Pilgrims first settled the Plymouth Colony, they organized their farm economy along communal lines. The goal was to share everything equally, work and produce.

They nearly all starved.

Why? When people can get the same return with a small amount of effort as with a large amount, most people will make little effort. Plymouth settlers faked illness rather than working the common property. Some even stole, despite their Puritan convictions. Total production was too meager to support the population, and famine resulted. Some ate rats, dogs, horses and cats. This went on for two years.

"So as it well appeared that famine must still ensue the next year also, if not some way prevented," wrote Gov. William Bradford in his diary. The colonists, he said, "began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery. At length after much debate of things, [I] (with the advice of the chiefest among them) gave way that they should set corn every man for his own particular, and in that regard trust to themselves. And so assigned to every family a parcel of land."

The people of Plymouth moved from socialism to private farming. The results were dramatic.

"This had very good success," Bradford wrote, "for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been. By this time harvest was come, and instead of famine, now God gave them plenty, and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many. "

Because of the change, the first Thanksgiving could be held in November 1623.

What Plymouth suffered under communalism was what economists today call the tragedy of the commons. But the problem has been known since ancient Greece. As Aristotle noted, "That which is common to the greatest number has the least care bestowed upon it."

When action is divorced from consequences, no one is happy with the ultimate outcome. If individuals can take from a common pot regardless of how much they put in it, each person has an incentive to be a free rider, to do as little as possible and take as much as possible because what one fails to take will be taken by someone else. Soon, the pot is empty and will not be refilled -- a bad situation even for the earlier takers.

What private property does -- as the Pilgrims discovered -- is connect effort to reward, creating an incentive for people to produce far more. Then, if there's a free market, people will trade their surpluses to others for the things they lack. Mutual exchange for mutual benefit makes the community richer.

Secure property rights are the key. When producers know that their future products are safe from confiscation, they will take risks and invest. But when they fear they will be deprived of the fruits of their labor, they will do as little as possible.

That's the lost lesson of Thanksgiving.

The Tragedy of the Commons
By John Stossel
Wednesday, November 21, 2007 (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JohnStossel/2007/11/21/the_tragedy_of_the_commons?page=full&comments=true)

Another interesting piece:

Private Enterprise Regained
by Henry Hazlitt (http://www.fee.org/pdf/the-freeman/hazlitt1104b.pdf)

Nbadan
11-22-2007, 08:08 PM
Happy Thanksgiving everyone....see you tonight...

boutons_
11-22-2007, 09:34 PM
"in an age that has acquired a mania for socialism and communism,"

On Thanksgiving, WC posts right-wing lies.

mookie2001
11-22-2007, 09:46 PM
this is the year we'll find out who finally won the war on christmas

exstatic
11-22-2007, 10:00 PM
Burp!

boutons_
11-22-2007, 10:01 PM
"war on christmas"

more bullshit. There is no war on Christmas like there weren't any WMD in Iraq. WoC is just another Fox News/"Christian" fiction to rouse the rabble, to stampede the sheeple.

Wild Cobra
11-22-2007, 10:35 PM
"in an age that has acquired a mania for socialism and communism,"

On Thanksgiving, WC posts right-wing lies.
I guess you never read any of Bradford's journals. Are you calling his writing of events a lie?