Mavs@Rockets game thread!!!

[Dirk Nowitzki]

MAVS FANS! TONIGHT OUR TEAM TRAVELS TO HOUSTON TO TAKE ON THE ROCKETS! MEMO TO ROCKET FANS...DONT COME TO THE GAME OR EVEN WATCH IT. THE MAVS HAVE ALREADY WON AS THEY WILL BITCHSLAP YOUR ASSES THAT WE OWN ALL OVER YOUR HOUSE! LET ME FUCKING HEAR YOU MAVS FANS! LETS GO MAVS! LETS GO MAVS! LETS GO MAVS! :clap :clap :clap :elephant :elephant :elephant :downspin: :ihit :hungry:

[mavsluva]

Don't get me wrong, I love the Mavs. But you, my friend, are quite out there.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Is there anyway I could hope for both teams to lose?

[jman3000]

what happened to watching grey's anatomy?

what shows are on tonight for our beloved rockets fans to enjoy?

[Xylus]

Is TMac playing?

[lurker]

what happened to watching grey's anatomy?

what shows are on tonight for our beloved rockets fans to enjoy?
Kid Nation.

[u2sarajevo]

Is TMac playing?He is.

[cornbread]

Mavs got this one.

[Xylus]

He is.
This will be a good game then. :)

I'll take the Rockets in a nailbiter.

[ArgSpursFan.]

It will be a fun game to watch,with the Rockets back to the original starting lineup,+Scola and Francis getting some love from Adelman too.
But the Mavs are the better team out of them.
Let's see what happens.

[atxrocker]

i will be rooting for the rockets...

[ShaqDynasty]

We beat the Mavericks in 2006 like we were supposed to, so tonight will be an easy fluke victory for a fluke team Houston Fluke Rockets from Flukeston, Texas.

[Amarelooms]

We beat the Mavericks in 2006 like we were supposed to, so tonight will be an easy fluke victory for a fluke team Houston Fluke Rockets from Flukeston, Texas.

The only team that is suppose to beat the Mavericks is the Golden State Warriors.....we all know come playoff time the Rockets are of no real significance :elephant

[Findog]

i will be rooting for the rockets...

What a shock!

[TampaDude]

Da ROCKETS are kicking Mav ass right now...it's a beautiful thing!!!

[Amarelooms]

Mavs sucking it up....this is a loss....why cant the Mavs do what the Suns do against the rockets and make Yao worthless

[TampaDude]

T-Mac!!!

[Findog]

Could we start defending the 3-point line, please?

[Findog]

Mavs sucking it up....this is a loss....why cant the Mavs do what the Suns do against the rockets and make Yao worthless

The local broadcasters keep talking about how Avery wanted to push the ball...guess the players didn't get the memo.

[Findog]

10 points with 1:38 to play in the 3rd quarter. Way to go, guys. Way to blow a 1-point halftime lead.

[lurker]

Perhaps I should've watched something else tonight instead of this game.

[Findog]

If we can get this to within 11 here, we have a chance.

[Findog]

down 12 with 12 to play. We can still pull this one out.

[TampaDude]

down 12 with 12 to play. We can still pull this one out.

Rockets ain't the Raptors, but yeah...ya got Dirk...

[Findog]

Rockets ain't the Raptors, but yeah...ya got Dirk...

I had this one pegged as a loss since Houston hasn't played since Sunday and we played last night. I'm pissed because we were up at halftime. Rather get blown out from the start.

[TampaDude]

I had this one pegged as a loss since Houston hasn't played since Sunday and we played last night. I'm pissed because we were up at halftime. Rather get blown out from the start.

Do you agree with me that the three best teams in the NBA are all in Texas???

[Findog]

Do you agree with me that the three best teams in the NBA are all in Texas???

I would put Boston ahead of Houston right now, but Houston is no lower than fifth or sixth in the entire league. You can certainly make that argument, though.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Do you agree with me that the three best teams in the NBA are all in Texas???
I think Orlando can beat Houston.

[Findog]

Single Digits. Come on guys

[Findog]

6-point game.

[Findog]

I think Orlando can beat Houston.

I thought they'd be a playoff team, and I still think Lewis' contract is ridiculous, but I slept on them a little bit. He does help spread the floor for Howard.

[TampaDude]

I think Orlando can beat Houston.

True...the Magic is pretty freaking good...but I'd take the Spurs, Mavs, or Rockets over the Magic.

[Findog]

Now I want this one bad. I wish we'd stop digging holes and making things harder on ourselves. What a putrid third quarter.

[Findog]

True...the Magic is pretty freaking good...but I'd take the Spurs, Mavs, or Rockets over the Magic.

I don't really like Houston's offseason moves as much as some others. I don't think Scola, James, Francis and Adelman are going to be the difference-makers they thought they'd be. They're still very good, though. They probably match up with San Antonio as well as anybody outside of us.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I thought they'd be a playoff team, and I still think Lewis' contract is ridiculous, but I slept on them a little bit. He does help spread the floor for Howard.
:tu No matter how far they go (which is I think at most the East finals) Rashard's contract will always be ridiculous.

[Findog]

Continuation here. Let's get this back down to five.

[Walter Craparita]

Bass Master taking over.

This is a good game to watch.

[Findog]

:tu No matter how far they go (which is I think at most the East finals) Rashard's contract will always be ridiculous.

Short-term gain, no long-term gain. They will have a hard time getting the financial flexibility to add to their core.

[Findog]

Brandon Bass.

This is a good game to watch.

Great pickup. Have no idea how he couldn't get off the bench in NOLA.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Great pickup. Have no idea how he couldn't get off the bench in NOLA.
Me neither. I was hoping for the Spurs to get him as well.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

HOU 85
DAL 80
5 1/2 mins left. Come on Dallas.

[Amarelooms]

Mavs dont deserve this one

[TampaDude]

This is a good fucking game, folks!

[Walter Craparita]

Post up shot by Dirk.

HOU just keeps making lucky/good shots to stay ahead.

[TampaDude]

Dirk...and 1!

[Amarelooms]

ball game

[lurker]

What happened to Dirk being our best free throw shooter? Now I'm starting to cringe when he goes to the line.

[TampaDude]

Flagrant on Dallas

[Amarelooms]

DIRK IS SUCKING ASS THIS YEAR....tired of his bullshit....

[TampaDude]

Da Mavs! For the second night in a row!!!

[lurker]

Thank you, Devin Harris!

[lurker]

And they did it again. Those assholes need to stop doing this to their fans. :lol


*waits for people to bitch about Stack "running up the score"*

[Amarelooms]

lol how bad are the rockets that they gave the mavs that game

[TampaDude]

Congrats to the Mavericks for an awesome comeback! Don't mess with Texas!

[Walter Craparita]

Stackhouse held meeting to talk to team about selflessness and then takes the dunk at the end of the game lol.

GOod game by dallas.

[Budkin]

:lmao @ Houston. What a choke job! I can give my brother in law shit tomorrow at Thanksgiving.

[Findog]

I thought it was the game when Devin committed the flagrant on Yao. Crunch-time execution. Not a hallmark of an Adelman team.

[StylisticS]

Stackhouse held meeting to talk to team about selflessness and then takes the dunk at the end of the game lol.

GOod game by dallas.

:lol
I actually chalked this game as a loss because of the back to back and it being in Houston. Showed some heart tonight. But Houston is now at .500.

[Findog]

I just don't ever count this team out. Didn't give up on them last night or tonight.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

I just don't ever count this team out. Didn't give up on them last night or tonight.


I bet you did when Stephen Jackson started hitting those 3's in the 3rd quarter of game 6. I knew we werent going to pull magic out of our ass again after that game 5 win. I also counted this team out after losing game 5 to Miami. You knew this team was finished after dropping 3 in a row in Miami even after that firing start. I knew once we cooled down and lost the lead that the tide would turn and it did. :depressed :depressed :depressed

[Budkin]

I bet you did when Stephen Jackson started hitting those 3's in the 3rd quarter of game 6. I knew we werent going to pull magic out of our ass again after that game 5 win. I also counted this team out after losing game 5 to Miami. You knew this team was finished after dropping 3 in a row in Miami even after that firing start. I knew once we cooled down and lost the lead that the tide would turn and it did. :depressed :depressed :depressed

You should be happy Dirk your team just won back to bak games with huge comebacks.

[Findog]

I bet you did when Stephen Jackson started hitting those 3's in the 3rd quarter of game 6.

A 25-point lead in the third quarter, I didn't think things were looking good. But i didn't turn the game off until it was pretty much impossible from a logistical standpoint to comeback.




I also counted this team out after losing game 5 to Miami. You knew this team was finished after dropping 3 in a row in Miami even after that firing start. I knew once we cooled down and lost the lead that the tide would turn and it did. :depressed :depressed :depressed

Well, that makes one of us.

[BrandonBassDynasty]

Brandon Bass just went out and shot some shots and rebounded some rebounds against a fluke team, no surprise here.

[Findog]

Houston was like 10/22 on threes. Wish we could defend that better. Golden State killed us from behind the arc.

[Findog]

Brandon Bass just went out and shot some shots and rebounded some rebounds against a fluke team, no surprise here.

He's just being the inside presence we've been sorely lacking that he's supposed to be.

[Findog]

DIRK IS SUCKING ASS THIS YEAR....tired of his bullshit....

Yeah, how bout those two tough inside shots? I'm not worried about his free throws, those'll come.

[SpursIndonesia]

Salute, nice come back win by the Mavs tonite. I only follow it through CBS live PBP, but indeed a thrilling end to the game. :)

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Well, that makes one of us.

I just hope I see this come April. I know this team has it and I want them to show it when it really counts.

[Findog]

I just hope I see this come April. I know this team has it and I want them to show it when it really counts.

I think we all feel the same way...Mav fans, anyway.

[atxrocker]

goddamnit houston pulled a dallas and choked :pctoss

[Findog]

goddamnit houston pulled a dallas and choked :pctoss

Poor atxrocker. Sorry to ruin your Thanksgiving.

[mavs>spurs2]

I missed the game..anyone care to tell me who shut down Tmac?

6-19 15 pts :dizzy

[Findog]

I missed the game..anyone care to tell me who shut down Tmac?

6-19 15 pts :dizzy

He looked real tentative and played with a bulky sleeve thing on his elbow. They ran their offense through Yao most of the night and did a good job of hitting open threes when we collapsed on him. It was mainly Hassell, Howard and Harris that took turns guarding McGrady.

[mavs>spurs2]

He looked real tentative and played with a bulky sleeve thing on his elbow. They ran their offense through Yao most of the night and did a good job of hitting open threes when we collapsed on him. It was mainly Hassell, Howard and Harris that took turns guarding McGrady.

Maybe it was just a mental thing because of the sleeve..but it seems like were on to something with this Hassell guy.

I wonder how he fairs against Wade?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I was rooting for the Mavs in this one. Very impressive and solid win for the Mavs.

And for the record I don't think that was a flagrant on Harris. He did foul on Yao but I think they just called it flagrant because of the way Yao positioned his footing, which had nothing to do with the foul.

Props to the Mavs. :toast
Hopefully we can meet up in the playoffs and give the NBA another series of the year.

[Findog]

Maybe it was just a mental thing because of the sleeve..but it seems like were on to something with this Hassell guy.

I wonder how he fairs against Wade?

I don't think we have to worry about how he will fare against Wade except on January 4th and March 16th. :smokin

He's looked real nice the past couple of games...very Adrian Griffinesque. He gets set properly, he's real physical, and on offense, if the defense funnels the ball to him, he's got a nice midranger jumper he hits consistently.

I read in the paper today that he's lost 13 lbs since the trade. I thought he looked like a big bag of nothing when we first got him, but it's hopefully a case of him getting his conditioning in order.

[Findog]

I was rooting for the Mavs in this one. Very impressive and solid win for the Mavs.

And for the record I don't think that was a flagrant on Harris. He did foul on Yao but I think they just called it flagrant because of the way Yao positioned his footing, which had nothing to do with the foul.

Props to the Mavs. :toast
Hopefully we can meet up in the playoffs and give the NBA another series of the year.

He raked him across the face, so I can't complain about the call. Good thing the Rockets couldn't hit their free throws or buy a basket the last 1:30.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

He raked him across the face, so I can't complain about the call.

Hmm. I didn't see that. Guess I'll have to relook it over.


Good thing the Rockets couldn't hit their free throws or buy a basket the last 1:30.

Yea I was amazed at their chokejob.

[sribb43]

He raked him across the face, so I can't complain about the call. Good thing the Rockets couldn't hit their free throws or buy a basket the last 1:30.

typical rockets basketball

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

typical rockets basketball
Off topic, but why do you still have the DJ avatar?

[anakha]

Yeesh. What is it with Adelman teams and coughing up big leads?

[Ginobilly]

Is it just me or do the spurs miss Malik Rose and Sjax when it comes to facing the Mavs. Remember they were a big part in us owning them.

[bdictjames]

I've found the reason why I should hate the Mavs. Such thugs.

Why the hell did Stackhouse dunk the ball with 1 second left?

[Findog]

I've found the reason why I should hate the Mavs. Such thugs.

Why the hell did Stackhouse dunk the ball with 1 second left?

Thugs or softies, pick a lane please.

[bdictjames]

Thugs or softies, pick a lane please.
Dirk = softy
Mavs = thugs, with the exception of Dirk.

I think Jerry purposely did it to raise the Mavs point differential.
:oops

[Amuseddaysleeper]

the mavs are the best team in the league right now, no question.

[Findog]

Dirk = softy
Mavs = thugs, with the exception of Dirk.

I think Jerry purposely did it to raise the Mavs point differential.
:oops

I think he did it because it was an emotional comeback win and he momentarily lost sight of the fact that it could be construed as showing up the other team.

[Findog]

the mavs are the best team in the league right now, no question.

Brandon Bass! Devin Harris!

[bdictjames]

I think he did it because it was an emotional comeback win and he momentarily lost sight of the fact that it could be construed as showing up the other team.
HOMER ALERT!!! :madrun :lol

Dallas = emotional comeback team. Hopefully other games wont be this unusual.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Brandon Bass! Devin Harris!
:lol


but seriously, Brandon Bass could really make the difference for you guys this year. He's obviously a bit rough around the edges, but he could be groomed into a solid banger for the Mavs.


I look forward to the dec. 5 matchup.

[Findog]

HOMER ALERT!!! :madrun :lol

Dallas = emotional comeback team. Hopefully other games wont be this unusual.

Second night in a row we erased a 17+ point lead. Hey, you win a game on the road against a division rival after being in a hole, you'll be pumped. I'm not defending what he did.

[Findog]

:lol


but seriously, Brandon Bass could really make the difference for you guys this year. He's obviously a bit rough around the edges, but he could be groomed into a solid banger for the Mavs.


I look forward to the dec. 5 matchup.

He shows his inexperience at times, but he can flat-out play. Devin Harris has a consistent jumper now, so pack the lane on him at your own risk. I no longer cringe when he shoots from the perimeter. Dirk had some nice post baskets down the stretch. His numbers by his standards aren't that great, except for the upswing in assists, but he's doing the Duncan thing*: setting up his teammates, letting them go off and carry the scoring load, then about once a week like in the Toronto game, going off to remind teams that he can. That's what Duncan does in the regular season.

* obviously Dirk isn't as good as Duncan.

[boutons_]

Houston has really been bitch-slapped the last couple weeks. Some of it is certainly Rick, and lack of solid leadership from Tracy and Yao.

[Findog]

How is that Battier for Gay trade working out now, Houston?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

He shows his inexperience at times, but he can flat-out play. Devin Harris has a consistent jumper now, so pack the lane on him at your own risk. I no longer cringe when he shoots from the perimeter. Dirk had some nice post baskets down the stretch. His numbers by his standards aren't that great, except for the upswing in assists, but he's doing the Duncan thing*: setting up his teammates, letting them go off and carry the scoring load, then about once a week like in the Toronto game, going off to remind teams that he can. That's what Duncan does in the regular season.

* obviously Dirk isn't as good as Duncan.

Very fair assessment.

I was gonna make a thread asking what was up with Dirk this season, but then I backed off once I saw what he did at the end of the third quarter during the toronto game :spin


And yeah, if Devin Harris continues to outplay Parker everytime they face off, the Spurs could be in real big trouble.

I thought Trenton Hassel was gonna be a steal for you guys, seeing as how good of a defensive stopper he is (or was?), but he seems to be struggling a bit this year.

I'm also digging the Terry vs Ginobili 6th man race, although watch Barbosa win it again :pctoss

[Amuseddaysleeper]

With Alston and Mike James Houston isn't going anywhere..and Luther Head isn't the answer either. I'm really starting to feel bad for Tracy and now Yao...they will probably never get out of the first round. And I don't even want to start on their coach.


I don't know about Mike James, I mean that dude can go off for 30-40 if he puts his mind to it.


And everytime I wanna feel bad for Tracy and Yao, I realize the talent for them IS there. Shane Battier and Mike James may not be names that make opponents shudder, but like the Spurs, the rockets have a ton of complimentary pieces. I mean hell, you could argue the rockets are in the top 3-4 teams in terms of depth.

Mcgrady passed off like 5 opportunities in the final 3 minutes of the game against the Mavs. He had so many layups but kept dishing out at all the wrong times in the clutch. The one decent look he finally took was like 20 feet from the basket.

Yao is obviously great too, but I think he's one of the softest players in the league. Which is a shame.

[Findog]

Very fair assessment.

I was gonna make a thread asking what was up with Dirk this season, but then I backed off once I saw what he did at the end of the third quarter during the toronto game :spin

He's been getting the "Golden State" defense so far this year: teams are playing a physical zone against us and swarming him with double-teams, often sending a defender from his blindside. He's getting better at anticipating where the help defender is coming from and his passes out of it are better. Avery wants more balance offensively, because as this team was constructed last year, we needed Dirk to put up 25-30 points to win, and often he'd get no more than an assist or two. This year I think Avery's ideal line for Dirk is 21 points with 5 or 6 assists.


I thought Trenton Hassel was gonna be a steal for you guys, seeing as how good of a defensive stopper he is (or was?), but he seems to be struggling a bit this year.

He started off real slow, I think his conditioning was off. The Morning News beat writer made a mention of how he's lost 13 lbs now since the trade, and he played well these past two games: did a good on TJ Ford and McGrady, while consistently hitting the midrange jumper when defenses funneled the ball to him. I never saw him play much with the T-Wolves but he had that kind of defensive reputation, almost on par with Bowen. If we're not having to play 4 on 5 on offense when he's in the game to guard Kobe, McGrady, whomever, even better.



I'm also digging the Terry vs Ginobili 6th man race, although watch Barbosa win it again :pctoss

The Suns can sweep the awards again for all I care. They will always be overhyped because of their style of play.

[Roxsfan]

How is that Battier for Gay trade working out now, Houston?

trust me, rudy gay would have sucked in houston...you know, houston luck


I think he did it because it was an emotional comeback win and he momentarily lost sight of the fact that it could be construed as showing up the other team.

with the way they played, giving up 17 point lead....the rockets deserved that from Stackhouse. If you're going to be a pansy-team, you're going to get "shown-up"...Go stackhouse!!!. Rub the salt in the wound.... :hungry:

[Findog]

trust me, rudy gay would have sucked in houston...you know, houston luck



with the way they played, giving up 17 point lead....the rockets deserved that from Stackhouse. If you're going to be a pansy-team, you're going to get "shown-up"...Go stackhouse!!!. Rub the salt in the wound.... :hungry:

I agree that JVG would've brought him along slowly last year and he wouldn't be the second-scoring option like he is in Memphis, but the Rockets don't have the athleticism they need to be immune to small ball, and I think Gay would help with that. Battier is a solid glue guy, he does the "little things" that sometimes don't show up in box scores, but Gay has a much higher ceiling.

Why isn't Francis playing? No way he's worse than Rapist Alston and Luther Head. I heard it was bc he showed up fat like Bonzi did last year, but they need somebody who can actually run a pic n roll. I'm sure Francis would've fouled Harris hard on a couple of those drives too.

[Roxsfan]

I agree that JVG would've brought him along slowly last year and he wouldn't be the second-scoring option like he is in Memphis, but the Rockets don't have the athleticism they need to be immune to small ball, and I think Gay would help with that. Battier is a solid glue guy, he does the "little things" that sometimes don't show up in box scores, but Gay has a much higher ceiling.

Why isn't Francis playing? No way he's worse than Rapist Alston and Luther Head. I heard it was bc he showed up fat like Bonzi did last year, but they need somebody who can actually run a pic n roll. I'm sure Francis would've fouled Harris hard on a couple of those drives too.

You make good points. I will not praise them when they do good, AND I will rip them when they do bad.

I still am a big fan, but I won't defend them against internet criticism........

on the francis thing, not sure....adelman says he was not in cardio-shape and did not play as well as alston..so whatever.

[Findog]

You make good points, but I will not praise them when they do good, but I will rip them when they do bad.

I still am a big fan, but I won't defend them against internet criticism........

on the francis thing, not sure....adelman says he was not in cardio-shape and did not play as well as alston..so whatever.

It seems like they're in the worst of both worlds right now. They aren't playing the same defense they did under JVG, and I don't like Adelman's high-post offense with the personnel they have. They're better off pounding bitches inside with Yao instead of stationing him so much at the elbow shooting 16-foot jumpers.

I don't understand how an offense can be so stagnant with both Yao and Tracy.

[Udrihlooms]

trust me, rudy gay would have sucked in houston...you know, houston luck



with the way they played, giving up 17 point lead....the rockets deserved that from Stackhouse. If you're going to be a pansy-team, you're going to get "shown-up"...Go stackhouse!!!. Rub the salt in the wound.... :hungry:


nice fair take!

i'm reading some posts in clutch forum, and i guess your board is hitting the panic button with a jackhammer already. :D

i guess houston is not done yet paying for the good luck in your B2B (while MJ's out).

anyway, i hope you'll have a better luck this year.

probably your worst move this year is to hire Adelman. That guy's never a winner.

[Indazone]

Rockets aren't going anywhere as long as Alston and James are the guards. If Francis and Brooks get in, watch out. The Rockets can be a force.

[SpursIndonesia]

Can't really play shoulda woulda game about Rudy Gay vs Shane Battier IMHO, things don't happen in vacuum. Milicic & Delfino were pretty talented rookies, yet their growth was stunted by a coach who hates to play rookie/distrusts them -exactly the definition of JVG.

[Walter Craparita]

I've found the reason why I should hate the Mavs. Such thugs.

Why the hell did Stackhouse dunk the ball with 1 second left?

Teaching his team about selflessness, that's all.

[Matchman]

We cant wait for Rudy Gay to develop, and atheletism is overrated, Stromile Swift did not work out in Houston.
by the way, thank you Stackhouse, i wanted him to dunk and to embarrass all the rockets players after that shameful choke job. I am also embarrassed that no one stood up for Yao after he got foul hard.
if only Bob Sura is still here (Mavs fans here might remember how he stood up for Yao few years ago)

[sribb43]

Off topic, but why do you still have the DJ avatar?

ya i need to change it...

[mavsfan1000]

Thank God for Devin Harris.

[sribb43]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/Nate505505/tmacvirgin.jpg :lol :lol

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lmao

[dirk4mvp]

What a game! Nice lead, Rockets!

[Nashfan]

the mavs are the best team in the league right now, no question.

:lmao :lmao

[dirk4mvp]

:lmao :lmao


You're so right, dude! How the fuck could the Mavs be the best team in the league?! They're not at the top of the power rankings!

[Nashfan]

You're so right, dude! How the fuck could the Mavs be the best team in the league?! They're not at the top of the power rankings!


I could care less about power rankings. :rolleyes It is just so funny that someone thinks they are the best team in the league. Spurs own that distinction since they are the reigning champs, so the Mavs are not the best team in the league right now. I know the Mavs beat the Spurs, but the Mavs have trouble with fast paced teams, and the Spurs will not lose all the time to the Mavs. :)

[Purple & Gold]

We cant wait for Rudy Gay to develop, and atheletism is overrated, Stromile Swift did not work out in Houston.
by the way, thank you Stackhouse, i wanted him to dunk and to embarrass all the rockets players after that shameful choke job. I am also embarrassed that no one stood up for Yao after he got foul hard.
if only Bob Sura is still here (Mavs fans here might remember how he stood up for Yao few years ago)

Why can't you wait for Rudy Gay to develop. Do you think Battier actually puts you over the top?? It was a horrible trade and a straight up panic move from the Rockets. You guys didn't win last year and you're not gonna win it this year. So you certainly did have enough time to let Rudy Gay develop. What your team needs is another scorer to put next to Yao and T-Mac. That's exactly what he would have provided sooner rather than later. Battier is overrated.