boutons_
11-26-2007, 12:45 AM
Poor dubya, abused by by Congress in 2002, was pushed into the Iraq war.
Just fucking amazing. The Repugs really, really have no shame, no honor, and keep lying eternally, poisoning public discourse, while 100s of 1000s die for the Repugs' bullshit, bogus war-for-oil.
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Rove: "Congress Pushed Bush to War in Iraq Prematurely" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/rove-congress-pushed-bu_b_74039.html)
You are not going to believe this, well, actually you will... According to Karl Rove (on Charlie Rose) (http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/21/1/a-conversation-with-karl-rove), the Bush Administration did not want Congress to vote on the Iraq War resolution in the fall of 2002, because they thought it should not be done within the context of an election. Rove, you see, did not think the war vote should be "political".
( the Iraq invasion was started "as the ONLY and IMMEDIATE option" for political expediency of the 2003 campaing, to present dubya as a war president. He still just barely won, with the smallest margin of incumbent victory in US history. )
Moreover, according to Rove, that "premature vote" led to many of the problems that cropped up in the Iraq War. Had Congress not pushed, he says, Bush could have spent more time assembling a coalition, and provided more time to the inspectors.
If you are like me, you have stopped reading/listening, and are rushing to get your anti-emetic.
It is worth remembering that the Senate in the fall of 2002 was controlled, barely, by Democrats. Get it? George Bush, we are being told, wanted to delay, wanted to hold back, wanted to take the time to build a coalition and let the inspectors finish their job, but that damn Congress just pushed him into it. George Bush, you see, is a careful, prudent, leader, deeply concerned about the consequences of premature.
Get it? If Biden, Clinton, Dodd or Edwards is part of the Democratic ticket, the Republicans will run a campaign charging the Senate Democrats with rushing to judgment, of pushing the poor President to premature...(well, you fill in the blank)....
Not that Iraq is that big of an issue. Rove claims that, if Iraq had been a big issue, that Joe Lieberman, who was pro-war, could not have won in Connecticut, defeating receiving more Democratic, Independent and Republican votes than any of his opponents.
I have purposefully NOT provided the (obvious) answers to his claims because to answer is to give him control of the argument. That's Rove's tactic, and I have written about that many times in these pages.
Instead, this should be used as a trigger to talk about Rove's history of dissembling, how that is reflected in the Bush Administration's entire approach to public policy and public information. Bush, through Rove, should be attacked for trying to escape responsibility and accountability. And, it will help to make some historical references to rulers whose tenure was so dismal that they could not allow historians to provide objective analyses, and thus try to write the history themselves.
As might have been predicted, Rove raises "historical revisionism" to new depths, what may become known as "hysterical Rovisionism."
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Now just see WC and Yoni come in to "prove" that Rove claims are absolutely correct.
Just fucking amazing. The Repugs really, really have no shame, no honor, and keep lying eternally, poisoning public discourse, while 100s of 1000s die for the Repugs' bullshit, bogus war-for-oil.
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Rove: "Congress Pushed Bush to War in Iraq Prematurely" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/rove-congress-pushed-bu_b_74039.html)
You are not going to believe this, well, actually you will... According to Karl Rove (on Charlie Rose) (http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/21/1/a-conversation-with-karl-rove), the Bush Administration did not want Congress to vote on the Iraq War resolution in the fall of 2002, because they thought it should not be done within the context of an election. Rove, you see, did not think the war vote should be "political".
( the Iraq invasion was started "as the ONLY and IMMEDIATE option" for political expediency of the 2003 campaing, to present dubya as a war president. He still just barely won, with the smallest margin of incumbent victory in US history. )
Moreover, according to Rove, that "premature vote" led to many of the problems that cropped up in the Iraq War. Had Congress not pushed, he says, Bush could have spent more time assembling a coalition, and provided more time to the inspectors.
If you are like me, you have stopped reading/listening, and are rushing to get your anti-emetic.
It is worth remembering that the Senate in the fall of 2002 was controlled, barely, by Democrats. Get it? George Bush, we are being told, wanted to delay, wanted to hold back, wanted to take the time to build a coalition and let the inspectors finish their job, but that damn Congress just pushed him into it. George Bush, you see, is a careful, prudent, leader, deeply concerned about the consequences of premature.
Get it? If Biden, Clinton, Dodd or Edwards is part of the Democratic ticket, the Republicans will run a campaign charging the Senate Democrats with rushing to judgment, of pushing the poor President to premature...(well, you fill in the blank)....
Not that Iraq is that big of an issue. Rove claims that, if Iraq had been a big issue, that Joe Lieberman, who was pro-war, could not have won in Connecticut, defeating receiving more Democratic, Independent and Republican votes than any of his opponents.
I have purposefully NOT provided the (obvious) answers to his claims because to answer is to give him control of the argument. That's Rove's tactic, and I have written about that many times in these pages.
Instead, this should be used as a trigger to talk about Rove's history of dissembling, how that is reflected in the Bush Administration's entire approach to public policy and public information. Bush, through Rove, should be attacked for trying to escape responsibility and accountability. And, it will help to make some historical references to rulers whose tenure was so dismal that they could not allow historians to provide objective analyses, and thus try to write the history themselves.
As might have been predicted, Rove raises "historical revisionism" to new depths, what may become known as "hysterical Rovisionism."
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Now just see WC and Yoni come in to "prove" that Rove claims are absolutely correct.