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ElNono
11-26-2007, 06:30 PM
Varejao on Cleveland: 'I don't want to play there anymore'
By Chad Ford
ESPN.com
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Updated: November 26, 2007, 5:33 PM ET
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Last season, Anderson Varejao played a key role as the Cleveland Cavaliers won the Eastern Conference title -- he was arguably the Cavs' best young player behind LeBron James.

This season, Varejao is playing in a gym more than a thousand miles from Cleveland in Vitoria, Brazil, while the Cavs struggle to replace Varejao's defensive intensity in the middle.

Anderson Varejao is a fan favorite for his all-out hustle and curly locks.

He's waiting for the lucrative contract he thought he'd sign this offseason.

And waiting for Cleveland general manager Danny Ferry to "show me that he values my contribution to the team," Varejao told ESPN.com by phone in a rare interview.

"I just want to be treated fairly and I don't think Danny's done that."

Varejao expected to be helping the Cavs defend their East crown by now.

"I wanted to come back," he said. "I love the fans and I really love my teammates. But there are others there that have made it very difficult. It's gotten to the point that I don't want to play there anymore. I'm just hoping for a sign-and-trade at this point."

Ferry isn't ready to give up on bring Varejao back.

"We fully understand that negotiations can be emotional," Ferry told ESPN.com. "As for Anderson's potential to remain a Cavalier and put this behind us, we value his presence in this organization, on and off the court, and that has not changed."

Varejao, who turned 25 in September, was a vital part of the Cavs' run to the NBA Finals. As the Cavs' sixth man, his basic stats were modest: 6.8 points and 6.7 rebounds in 23 minutes per game. But he led the league in drawing charges, and his energy and interior defense were invaluable to the team. His adjusted plus-minus numbers last season said he was the 22nd-best player in the league.

The question for the Cavs is, how much do you pay for those less tangible contributions?

That question has been at the heart of one of the most unusual free-agent contract squabbles in NBA history.

(One of the handful of similar cases happened when Ferry himself refused to sign with the team that drafted him, the Los Angeles Clippers, decided instead to play in Europe and eventually forced the Clippers to trade him to, yes, Cleveland.)

As of now, Varejao has been unable to get another team to sign him to an offer sheet. Because Varejao is a restricted free agent, the Cavs can match any offer he gets, and Ferry has threatened to do just that.

This summer that scared off at least one team reluctant to tie its own hands by making an offer that would ultimately result in Varejao merely returning to Cleveland.

The Memphis Grizzlies flirted with making Varejao a big offer in July, but when the Cavs threatened to match and leave Memphis empty-handed, the Grizzlies went after unrestricted free agent Darko Milicic instead.

Several other teams told ESPN.com they would have offered Varejao their full midlevel exception (starting at $5.356 million per season), but Varejao has not been willing to sign for that amount because he believes (a) the Cavs would match, and (b) he's worth more.

The Cavs' popular forward wants considerably more than the team is offering. He turned down the Cavs' one-year, $1.2 million tender offer. (To retain a restricted free agent, a team must make a tender offer.) He also refused Cleveland's opening offer of five years, $20 million, and then its latest offer of five years, $32 million, with a starting salary slightly below the midlevel exception.

But Varejao said media reports that he's asking for a contract averaging $10-11 million a season "just aren't true. There are a lot of things being written that are wrong. I know they aren't talking to me or my agent."

He said he and his agent, Dan Fegan, have been more than willing to work out a fair deal with the Cavs. Varejao said he offered to sign a one-year deal at a discount, or to sign a longer-term deal.

Varejao further said he would be willing to take the dispute to an arbitrator, for a resolution similar to those found in Major League Baseball. That would minimize the role of Fegan, who is known as a very tough bargainer.

"Much has been made about the negotiators in this process, but for the record I have been prepared since training camp to submit our differences to a third-party mediator so that both parties can be assured of more objectivity," Fegan says.

The Cavs have rejected all of those counterproposals.

Ferry says the Cavs' offer is fair.

"We believe the Cavs' offers are very much in line with what is widely perceived throughout the industry as fair market value. We have also included bonuses that would serve as upside protection for Anderson," Ferry told ESPN.com.

"We are working to make decisions that are best for short- and long-term interests of the organization, yet clearly stepping up and offering him long-term security at a very fair market value."

Varejao said that if the two sides can't agree on a long-term deal, they should agree on a one-year deal that allows both sides to explore their options next year.


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Varejao said LeBron James is "a great teammate" who's providing him moral support from afar.

From the Cavs' point of view, a one-year deal is counterproductive because it would make Varejao an unrestricted free agent next year, and the team's right to match any offer would disappear. In that case, Varejao could just walk away.

But Fegan says that if Cleveland is willing to pay Varejao "fair market value," the Cavs would then be in the best position to sign him next year.

"It defies logic for the Cavs to accuse Anderson of demanding too much money on a long-term deal while at the same time refusing to allow Anderson to sign a one-year deal for less money, especially when they retain his Bird rights next year." Fegan said. "It begs the question: If their offer is truly fair, what are they afraid of?"

The result has been a standoff that shows no sign of ending.

On each side, the frustration level has been rising the past few weeks, as Varejao is left in limbo in Brazil, and as the Cavs have struggled coming out of the gate in training camp and the regular season.

In October, Ferry made a surprise visit to see Varejao at his parents' home in Brazil in an attempt to convince him to sign.

The move backfired.

Ferry showed up without telling Fegan, and working around an agent is a no-no in the NBA. While GMs are allowed to talk with players without an agent present, it is customary that all contract talk goes through an agent.

"I was shocked," Varejao said. "He showed up and wanted me to sign a contract. I told him he's got to talk to my agent. He didn't even up his offer. I guess he thought if he just showed up, I would just sign whatever he gave me."

Ferry walked away with no deal and with an angry free agent on his hands.

He defends his decision to appeal directly to Varejao.

"From the start of free agency, we told Anderson and his agent that the ability to communicate with him directly was going to be very important to the process," Ferry said. "The trip was done because our communication with Anderson was no longer available to us."

Since that incident, there hasn't been much trust or movement on either side.

While many around the NBA believe that Fegan is driving negotiations, Varejao says he is responsible for his own bargaining position.

"This is me, nobody else," Varejao said. "He takes the offers to me and I decide. He's told me he'll get a deal done for less. I've told him no. It's me. [The Cavs] told me how important I was to the team. I just want to be treated fairly."

Other GMs in the league, while acknowledging that Fegan is a tough negotiator, said that Ferry is equally tenacious.

One serious risk, on Ferry's side, is that the team's most important player, James, might see this impasse as another sign of the Cavs' inability to improve the team.

Varejao says that the Cavs' players support him, and that his conversations with James have been positive.

"He just says, 'We love you and we're waiting,'" Varejao said. "He keeps telling me he wants me back but to get the best deal I can and to take care of my family. He's a great teammate. He always supports us on and off the court."

That sentiment was confirmed by a source close to James, who said, "LeBron wants Andy back. He wants him to get a fair deal. I think his frustration isn't with Andy, it's with the fact that for the past two years, he's been waiting for more help and he hasn't gotten it. This is just a step in the wrong direction."

Over the past few weeks, several NBA general managers have told ESPN.com that Fegan has been searching out potential sign-and-trade deals, in which Varejao would agree to terms with another team and then be traded to that team. In recent days, there have been indications that the Cavs are open to the possibility of a sign-and-trade.

Two GMs told ESPN.com they believe Varejao would agree to a five-year, $45-million deal in a sign-and-trade, if such an offer were made.

"If that's the price, or close to it, I think Danny [Ferry] will get some offers that make sense for the Cavs," one GM said. "I'm not sure he'll get equal value, but right now he has nothing and I don't see it changing."

If Varejao leaves, it will be a bitter ending for both parties. But at this point, that might be the most workable option.

"I'm willing to go and play in Europe if that's what it takes," Varejao said. "I know it's a risk and I'll be a restricted free agent next year, but at least I'd be happy. I don't think I'll be happy in Cleveland knowing that I was [almost] the lowest-paid player there for three years and am still paid much less than players on the team that I outperform. Life's too short to be unhappy."

Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.

link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3128446)

spursRgay
11-26-2007, 06:50 PM
memo to danny ferry: let some other idiot gm overpay for this guy...he definitely isn't worth $5 million a year let alone $9 million.

Extra Stout
11-26-2007, 07:13 PM
Look, Andy, not everybody gets a second chance. You struck out with that whole American Idol thing. Basketball was your path to stardom.

KidCongo
11-26-2007, 07:26 PM
Don't come back with your Ego..

"Life's too short to be unhappy"

sign the 6mil a year deal or whatever they offer you then

Mr.Bottomtooth
11-26-2007, 07:37 PM
This all could've been avoided if Ferry just traded for Beno.

Thunder Dan
11-26-2007, 08:09 PM
I heard the Cavs were trying to trade his rights to Philly for Andre Miller. What good would that be? I can't imagine any team spending that kind of money for him. He was out on the market all summer and only got one offer, a offer that was taken off the table within days after the Griz went after Darko. I think it's funny though that he could just not play for 5 years and still come back and be owned by the Cavs. He has no power in his holdout at all. The Cavs can just sit and not pay him forever and he will have no choice but to play in Europe.

I just get mad reading this because it just reminds us what primadonnas players are. They bitch and moan about making money we can't even imagine ever seeing. The best is that Ferry was doing a "no no" by talking to him without his agent present. What a bitch. Someone is offering you over 5 million dollars to play a freaking game, a game that you are not even that good at (decent at best) and you are going to cry about a guy trying to talk to you while your idiot agent isn't around... please.... no wonder some people hate pro sports. :pctoss

ElNono
11-26-2007, 08:15 PM
The problem is somebody like Drew Gooden who has a 23mill/3 year contract, or even worse, the Larry Hughes contract. But those are flat out bad contracts. I completely agree with Ferry on this one, and I hope this retard sits down for the rest of the season.

bdictjames
11-26-2007, 08:16 PM
Damn.. Andy is a really good player. Weird way how he plays, but its effective.

But he should understand to get the best offer possible. For the fans and Brazil.

KidCongo
11-26-2007, 08:18 PM
Andy should at most get what Drew got but he wants more...

Thunder Dan
11-26-2007, 08:24 PM
Andy should at most get what Drew got but he wants more...

Drew took less money because he enjoyed playing with Lebron and he thought it would help the team out. Somehow this off season Andy became an All-Star and future Hall of Famer unbenouced to the rest of the basketball world.

SpursFanFirst
11-26-2007, 08:30 PM
I love when these athletes have a sense of entitlement, but then get shot down by teams.

Thunder Dan
11-26-2007, 08:35 PM
I love when these athletes have a sense of entitlement, but then get shot down by teams.

I would let him play in Europe the rest of his life and never let him sniff the money he had offered to him. He should shut the hell up and play. He is nothing without Lebron, without Lebron nobody knows who the hell Anderson Varejao is. If they give him the money he wants, the Cavs won't have the money to keep LBJ around even if he wanted to stay.

picnroll
11-26-2007, 09:10 PM
Cavs are way over the salary cap for the next couple of years, what's way over paying one more player anyway. I'm sure LeBron would take a pay cut if he only could.

whottt
11-26-2007, 09:42 PM
his agent, Dan Fegan

jay014
11-26-2007, 09:44 PM
Andy should at most get what Drew got but he wants more...WOULDN'T YOUhttp://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/06/02/2cavs-topper.jpg http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/724/spurpg5.jpg

Hemotivo
11-27-2007, 03:40 PM
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/varejao0824.jpg

1Parker1
11-27-2007, 04:20 PM
I just get mad reading this because it just reminds us what primadonnas players are. They bitch and moan about making money we can't even imagine ever seeing. The best is that Ferry was doing a "no no" by talking to him without his agent present. What a bitch. Someone is offering you over 5 million dollars to play a freaking game, a game that you are not even that good at (decent at best) and you are going to cry about a guy trying to talk to you while your idiot agent isn't around... please.... no wonder some people hate pro sports.

:lol True.

Cavs I think are doing the right thing here. Though it makes you wonder if Ferry was this smart when it came to IDing talents and their worth...Why did he not realize this when signing Gooden, Hughes, and Jones?? Those 3 contracts are worse than this Varejao one!

Thunder Dan
11-27-2007, 04:20 PM
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/varejao0824.jpg


looks like the only ball he will be playing is in his living room with his shirt oddly unbuttoned

KidCongo
11-27-2007, 06:01 PM
You guys must be mistaking Gooden's contract for Donyell Marshall's...

Thunder Dan
11-27-2007, 08:16 PM
:lol True.

Cavs I think are doing the right thing here. Though it makes you wonder if Ferry was this smart when it came to IDing talents and their worth...Why did he not realize this when signing Gooden, Hughes, and Jones?? Those 3 contracts are worse than this Varejao one!

Gooden was actually offered more money elsewhere but wanted to play with Lebron so he took less to stay.

Dex
11-27-2007, 09:12 PM
That Verejao picture was uncalled for.

Thunder Dan
11-27-2007, 09:53 PM
That Verejao picture was uncalled for.

He does look like a giant d-bag. I guess now that is isn't a Cav I can make fun of him all I want.

Fillmoe
11-28-2007, 12:09 AM
fucking sideshow bob.... he really over rates himself

Matchman
11-29-2007, 02:05 AM
:lol True.

Cavs I think are doing the right thing here. Though it makes you wonder if Ferry was this smart when it came to IDing talents and their worth...Why did he not realize this when signing Gooden, Hughes, and Jones?? Those 3 contracts are worse than this Varejao one!

At least Gooden, Hughes and Jones are legitimate NBA players
There are differences between overpaying for good products and overpaying for garbage.

BeerIsGood!
11-29-2007, 02:55 AM
Ferry himself was and is a selfish and self entitled person who screwed the team that drafted him because he didn't want to play there. Varajao is pulling the same shit, and to Ferry's credit he isn't bad mouthing him for the same shit that Ferry pulled. And Ferry was a worse player than Sideshow.

PM5K
11-29-2007, 08:32 AM
Bottom line: He ain't worth 9 mil per, any GM that would pay that much isn't very good at his job...

TDMVPDPOY
11-29-2007, 08:48 AM
looks like ferry is using old spurs management tactics

i laugh if this is like stephen jackson situation again...low balling a player too see them flourish on another team

Thunder Dan
11-29-2007, 09:14 AM
looks like ferry is using old spurs management tactics

i laugh if this is like stephen jackson situation again...low balling a player too see them flourish on another team

5 years over 32 million is hardly low balling for a guy that gets you 6 points and 6 flops a night

JamStone
11-29-2007, 09:23 AM
Except he sees players like Eric Snow getting paid $6-7 million a year for putting up 4.2 ppg, 4.0 apg, 2.3 rpg and Damon Jones getting about $4 million for putting up 6.6 ppg, 1.6 apg, 1.1 rpg.

And, he knows his value is not just in stats. Problem is the Cavs acquired a horrible contract in Snow and way overpaid for guys like Hughes, Damon Jones, and Marshall and Varejao figures why should he be the guy that doesn't get overpaid?

Thunder Dan
11-29-2007, 09:39 AM
Except he sees players like Eric Snow getting paid $6-7 million a year for putting up 4.2 ppg, 4.0 apg, 2.3 rpg and Damon Jones getting about $4 million for putting up 6.6 ppg, 1.6 apg, 1.1 rpg.

And, he knows his value is not just in stats. Problem is the Cavs acquired a horrible contract in Snow and way overpaid for guys like Hughes, Damon Jones, and Marshall and Varejao figures why should he be the guy that doesn't get overpaid?

yeah but the Cavs are aware of those bad contracts and will be able to trade those expiring contracts this offseason (with the exception of Hughes, who will become a lifer on the Cleveland bench). They arn't trying to add any more bad contracts to bury themselves.

My stepdad is friends with Austin Carr a former Cav that does the color for the games, and he was explaining the whole thing. He says that the Cavs won't budge off their offer because they don't want to strap themselves. This coming offseason they will be able to make significant trades because he says "people don't understand, they don't trade players in the NBA, teams trade contracts." The Cavs will have a significant sum on money in the 2010 offseason to sign Lebron and take on another contract if needed. If they sign Andy for more money than he is worth, they screw this all up accordning to him. He said the biggest problem is Larry Hughes, and now it is finally starting to show and he is really feeling the pressure.