Important: The Official Beno Thread

[Tek_XX]

What the hell were the Spurs thinking letting this guy go?

[JamStone]

Beno > Tony :lol

[rasho8]

What the hell were the Spurs thinking letting this guy go?

They were thinking he was soft, injury prone, and wasnt willing to work hard anywhere but the night clubs and myspace.

And he was here. Even though I liked him, its better he is gone and in a different system.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

I knew this would happen when he joined another team



he was a talented pure PG, would have been a great backup, but what can he do when he only got garbage time and DNPs? But Pop should of tried to make it work


Vaughn is complete trash, and Washington isn't much better

[rasho8]

I knew this would happen when he joined another team



he was a talented pure PG, would have been a great backup, but what can he do when he only got garbage time and DNPs? But Pop should of tried to make it work


Vaughn is complete trash, and Washington isn't much better

Washington will be fine, Beno rubbed Pop the wrong way, and after that your career with the Spurs is done.

Beno never would have done this good here. He was in the wrong system. Now he is working hard and in a system where he is appreciated.

I like the new Beno.

[ShoogarBear]

:lmao @ all the "I told you so's" crawling out of the woodwork.

Beno fucked himself, and unless he's grown up a LOT he will do exactly the same thing in Sacramento.

[Josepatches]

Beno > Tony :lol

Sure

[Creation88]

where are all the Beno-haters now? he was always a good player with talent, Pop just shoved him in the basement and never let him showcase it.

jokes on us, especially tonight. he's taking it to us.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

He blew all his many chances here. Glad he's gone.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Fags.

[Creation88]

Fags.

damn . . . . good comeback.

[anakha]

I knew this would happen when he joined another team



he was a talented pure PG, would have been a great backup, but what can he do when he only got garbage time and DNPs? But Pop should of tried to make it work


Vaughn is complete trash, and Washington isn't much better

Beno
Manu
Bowen
Scola
Duncan

My God what could have been...

[ChumpDumper]

:lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

beno > tp.

expose him pls beno

[phyzik]

Beno will get exposed in the playoffs if Sac town meats the Spurs... I havnt seen any full court press from what I have watched. Admitedly I havnt watched much of the game because I was leage bowling.

[Timmy!]

Beno's revenge....now he'll suck for the next 10 games.

[whottt]

Why in the fuck isn't Pop trapping him?

[whottt]

Anyway...I'm glad I picked up Beno in one of my fantasy leagues...these points are coming in handy tonight.

[whottt]

Spurs Dynasty

Why don't you whine like a bitch about Mikey Moore as well...he's an ex-spur too.

[SRJ]

Beno Udrih sucks monkey sack.

One good game against his old team doesn't change that.

This is not opinion, this is ironclad fact. If you feel differently, go eat your own ass.

[SequSpur]

All I can say is Wow.

Beno is really playing well. I guess that's why they kept him around as long as they did..

Hey, the guy said he could play in that interview during the summer and he was right. Dude can play..

[bdictjames]

Beno for MIP

[Kamnik]

Holy shit!

Beno balling!

This thread is going to be a long long one...



Anyone else feels like Beno is doing this just make Angel_luv feel better? ;)

[BeerIsGood!]

Even with the Spurs Beno found a way to play well in November, December, and January occasionally. Go into the playoffs with that mother fucker as your starting PG and you're fucking toast. Just a night the Spurs decided to take off on defense, and the shots weren't falling this time.

[ShoogarBear]

We should trade Brad Miller for Tim Duncan, too.

[rasho8]

Beno Udrih sucks monkey sack.

One good game against his old team doesn't change that.

This is not opinion, this is ironclad fact. If you feel differently, go eat your own ass.

He has had multiple good games this year, so stfu.

Go Spurs!

[jman3000]

I dont care if he scores 40... im glad he's off the team.

[ChumpDumper]

Beno always had the ability to play - he simply always found a reason to suck here.

[SRJ]

Gerald Henderson once came up huge and beat the Celtics after they let him go.

Willie Burton once scored 50 points in an NBA game.

Shit happens.

[phyzik]

Why in the fuck isn't Pop trapping him?

saving it for potential playoff matchup is the only answer.

[whottt]

Too bad Beno turns into a lazy lump of inebriated, injured, and cancerous shit when he isn't starting.

[Kori Ellis]

saving it for potential playoff matchup is the only answer.

I don't think many people are planning on the Kings being in the playoffs.

[Kori Ellis]

Props to Beno for showing up in his "revenge" opportunity. Good luck to him in Sac. I'm very glad he's not a Spur though.

[whottt]

I dont care if he scores 40... im glad he's off the team.



Seriously...he could have put up a quintuple double and broke the scoring record tonight...and I still wouldn't want him on this team. Especially after his most recent interview.


I did however pick up in fantasy play because I knew exactly what he would do....


Till Bibby gets back...then he's going to whine about Bibby starting ahead of him.

[SRJ]

He has had multiple good games this year, so stfu.

Isaac Austin once won the NBA's Most Improved Player award - you know, for play over a full season, not just a few good games. Then he went back to being Isaac Austin.

Isaac Austin>>>>Beno Udrih



Go Slovenia!

Fixed.

[Mr. Body]

OMG, Beno Udrih totally destroyed Finals MVP Tony Parker and the Spurs.

[SRJ]

Too bad Beno turns into a lazy lump of inebriated, injured, and cancerous shit when he isn't starting.

Thread win.

[whottt]

I don't think many people are planning on the Kings being in the playoffs.



Pop looking for a reason to shake things up...



He didn't trap him at all...and he knows damn well that's Beno's weakness.

[SequSpur]

You guys can cry, whine, bitch, hate, whatever... but Beno fricking went scoreboard tonight. He had poise, he played smart, he fucking dropped the dagger a few times and came away with the win...

Yeah, it was a back to back night for the spurs, blah blah blah.... but he played his ass off.

[Obstructed_View]

It's been obvious for so many years that he had to go, and his public bitching just sealed it for him. I still don't understand why the Spurs re-signed him last year. That said, he's obviously way more talented than a huge number of Spurstalk posters thought.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, Beno is a talented basketball player who couldn't play backup for a championship team.

Congratulations to him.

[whottt]

You guys can cry, whine, bitch, hate, whatever... but Beno fricking went scoreboard tonight. He had poise, he played smart, he fucking dropped the dagger a few times and came away with the win...

Yeah, it was a back to back night for the spurs, blah blah blah.... but he played his ass off.



You must have never watched a Spurs game before if you didn't know Beno could do this...fucking douche.

His first start for the Spurs he dropped 25 points...

[whottt]

BWAHAHAHAHA


Beno and Rasho's career highs in points(and dunks as well in Rasho's case) are against the Spurs.

[Timmy!]

LOL....in post game interview Beno said he didn't get to play in SAS b/c he's the same age as TP?!?!?! Huh? He had a good game but he is dumb as a stick.

[Holt's Cat]

What the hell were the Spurs thinking letting this guy go?


He shows up in November and at clubs nightly.

[angel_luv]

Holy shit!

Beno balling!

This thread is going to be a long long one...



Anyone else feels like Beno is doing this just make Angel_luv feel better? ;)


And it worked. :)

But let's not tell Beno so he'll keep up the great play. :)

[Kori Ellis]

You guys can cry, whine, bitch, hate, whatever... but Beno fricking went scoreboard tonight. He had poise, he played smart, he fucking dropped the dagger a few times and came away with the win...

Yeah, it was a back to back night for the spurs, blah blah blah.... but he played his ass off.

It's not that surprising. He's talented. A lot of us said he was talented. YOU were the one who insisted he wasn't.

Whether he's talented or not, whether he averaged 30+ in Sac doesn't matter in regards to what he did here. In San Antonio he was lazy. In San Antonio he got injured all the time. In San Antonio he cared more about partying than getting ready to play. In San Antonio (last season) he couldn't hit a 3 to save his life. Etc.

[Obstructed_View]

Yes, Beno is a talented basketball player who couldn't play backup for a championship team.

Congratulations to him.
Again, it's hard to play from the doghouse. Ask Rasho and Nazr.

[whottt]

That said, he's obviously way more talented than a huge number of Spurstalk posters thought.


The guys that are now the biggest Beno haters on the board used to be some of his biggest fans...very few people said Beno wasn't talented...the only guy surprised by that seems to be Sequ...who is now a douche in my book.



Beno's biggest non-Slovenian cheerleaders on the board as a rookie were timvp, Kori and Chump...guess who leads the hate squad now.

[SequSpur]

You must have never watched a Spurs game before if you didn't know Beno could do this...fucking douche.

His first start for the Spurs he dropped 25 points...

Who the fuck are you? I don't give a shit about the past, he played his ass of tonight against the team that waived his ass.

No excuses, he destroyed the Spurs. He had allstar numbers against a team that should've been prepared for his ass.

You're the fucking douche. Look in the mirror, have an opinion, when you stop cleaning Pop's Nut Butter, then come back and call me a douche.

Attention, Whottt is the only mother fucker that has watched a spurs game...

[Kori Ellis]

Again, it's hard to play from the doghouse. Ask Rasho and Nazr.

Oh freakin please. He put himself in the dog house. The dog was wide open for him to get out, but instead he buried himself there.

[Obstructed_View]

It goes to show the difference in a young player's development when you allow him to grow into his position and accept his mistakes (Parker, Manu) and when you don't.

[angel_luv]

His first start for the Spurs he dropped 25 points...


That was a fun game.


BWAHAHAHAHA


Beno and Rasho's career highs in points(and dunks as well in Rasho's case) are against the Spurs.

Great for me since they were games I was able to see.

[ChumpDumper]

This is revisionist bullshit.

Beno sucked here because of Beno.

[whottt]

It goes to show the difference in a young player's development when you allow him to grow into his position and accept his mistakes (Parker, Manu) and when you don't.



Um...to allow Beno to grow into the spot he wants to grow into would require Tony Parker no longer growing...

[SRJ]

Beno obviously focuses against teams that waive or trade him.

At the rate he's going, he'll be playing like this almost every night.

[Obstructed_View]

Oh freakin please. He put himself in the dog house. The dog was wide open for him to get out, but instead he buried himself there.
Yeah, as you love to point out, those turnovers in a meaningless stretch against Houston were critical, and he richly deserved zero playing time as punishment. Great coaching decision. Even smarter to re-sign him so you could do the same fucking thing all over again and have to pay more than his salary just to cut him. Genius.

[SequSpur]

It's not that surprising. He's talented. A lot of us said he was talented. YOU were the one who insisted he wasn't.

Whether he's talented or not, whether he averaged 30+ in Sac doesn't matter in regards to what he did here. In San Antonio he was lazy. In San Antonio he got injured all the time. In San Antonio he cared more about partying than getting ready to play. In San Antonio (last season) he couldn't hit a 3 to save his life. Etc.

Last time I checked he was in the NBA, doesn't it take some talent to be there?

Tonight, he kicked the Spurs ass. He could retire tomorrow and shit, he might be happy with that.

I never thought he was worth a shit, but hey, the past 2 weeks, he obviously has raised his stock value... shit, he is even starting... hahahaha...

[whottt]

Who the fuck are you? I don't give a shit about the past, he played his ass of tonight against the team that waived his ass.


So did Steve Smith...douche. It was the last time he didn't suck fror the rest of his career.

[Obstructed_View]

Um...to allow Beno to grow into the spot he wants to grow into would require Tony Parker no longer growing...
Yeah, because he constantly demanded to start. It wasn't just that he got a quick hook for blowing defensive assignments and was subsequently benched for the next five games.

[Kori Ellis]

It goes to show the difference in a young player's development when you allow him to grow into his position and accept his mistakes (Parker, Manu) and when you don't.

More like ...

Parker and Manu listened to criticism.
Beno complained about Pop on myspace.
Parker and Manu practiced hard.
Beno sat out of practice with a hangnail.
Parker and Manu thought they had room to improve.
Beno was appalled when the Spurs asked him to work on his shot.

....

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, as you love to point out, those turnovers in a meaningless stretch against Houston were critical, and he richly deserved zero playing time as punishment.Yes, Beno thought that stretch was meaningless too -- that's why he was repeatedly assraped by a D-League power forward and that's why he was done for the season.

His fault.

[whottt]

Yeah, because he constantly demanded to start. It wasn't just that he got a quick hook for blowing defensive assignments and was subsequently benched for the next five games.


Um...you must not have read some of his recent interviews...and the reason 99% of the board wanted his ass gone. And is still happy he's gone.

[Obstructed_View]

This is revisionist bullshit.

Beno sucked here because of Beno.
Beno ended up getting cut because of Beno. The rest is revisionist bullshit.

[ShoogarBear]

He could retire tomorrow and shit, he might be happy with that. Yep.

More likely, though, he'll just be out with an injury for a few weeks.

[jman3000]

Dwash showed me more in his limited time on the floor than beno did his entire time here. ive said it before... i wouldnt have cared if he dropped 40 on us.. im glad he's gone.

[SequSpur]

More like ...

Parker and Manu listened to criticism.
Beno complained about Pop on myspace.
Parker and Manu practiced hard.
Beno sat out of practice with a hangnail.
Parker and Manu thought they had room to improve.
Beno was appalled when the Spurs asked him to work on his shot.

....

Beno destroyed the Spurs the first chance he got and succeeded.

[Obstructed_View]

Um...you must not have read some of his recent interviews...and the reason 99% of the board wanted his ass gone. And is still happy he's gone.
The interviews are why I wanted his ass gone, and why I'm still happy he's gone. Doesn't change the fact that Pop always seemed to be punishing him.

Or that he's a better player than most people on this board wanted to believe.

[spursrule32]

the only remorse that we should have is that Beno wasted his opportunity with the Spurs so much that we couldn't trade him for crap. Those that feel they're entightled to something instead of earning it never belong on the Spurs - that's the biggest anti-team characteristic to ever have.

[Kori Ellis]

Beno destroyed the Spurs the first chance he got and succeeded.

Exactly.

But it doesn't change the fact he was lazy and disinterested as a Spur.

[whottt]

The interviews are why I wanted his ass gone, and why I'm still happy he's gone. Doesn't change the fact that Pop always seemed to be punishing him.


Yeah well...

You act like Tony Parker hasn't been injured in 3 years...he has, and Beno's never been as good as he was in his first start...3 years ago.



You act like Pop was the one shoving breakfast tacos down his hole and breaking his fingers.


No one forced that bitch to get fat and worthless...his choice.

[Slydragon]

Beno's myspace keeps sending me links for free ring tones.

[ShoogarBear]

It's clear that Beno would rather be a starter for a loser than a contributor for a winner. Good luck to him.

[Obstructed_View]

More like ...

Parker and Manu listened to criticism.
Beno complained about Pop on myspace.
Parker and Manu practiced hard.
Beno sat out of practice with a hangnail.
Parker and Manu thought they had room to improve.
Beno was appalled when the Spurs asked him to work on his shot.

....

Yeah, it's all on Beno. And Nazr shouldn't have made that three pointer... Fuckin' ingrates.

[whottt]

The interviews are why I wanted his ass gone, and why I'm still happy he's gone. Doesn't change the fact that Pop always seemed to be punishing him.

Or that he's a better player than most people on this board wanted to believe.



Bottom line...the only guy I know saying Beno sucked that is somehow surprised by this game is Sequ...


I never said he wasn't talented...very few did.


He lead the team in 3 shooting his first season here...he put up 25 in his first career start...and he had a game of 10 assists off the bench...all that as a rookie.

And he never played woth a fuck after that...



And I wholeheartedly endorese Pop yanking his ass in the finals...becaause a fucking championship is more important to me than his fucking confidence...if he can't handle...get the fuck out and go score 27 points in meaningless games to his hearts content.

[SequSpur]

Exactly.

But it doesn't change the fact he was lazy and disinterested as a Spur.

True.....

but the point is Beno drilled the Spurs tonight. There was no pride by Parker, Vaughn or anyone else to shut his ass down.

The past is over, he just erased it. He dropped the dagger, got the foul and fricking chest bumped everyone right in front of the Spurs bench. He won.

Spurs are flying home with their heads between their legs.

Hey, props to him.

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, it's all on Beno. And Nazr shouldn't have made that three pointer... Fuckin' ingrates.

You miss Nazr?

[slayermin]

Bowen would have owned Beno. If Pop wanted to, he could have rained on his parade.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

So Beno owned us on his first return game... *yawn* ... like a player has never done that before!? :rolleyes

Good onya Beno, now show us you can keep it up for a season, or maybe five like Tony and Manu have... and if you do, great. But he never made it happen in SA, so we should all move on.

[Obstructed_View]

Beno's never been as good as he was in his first start...3 years ago.
Looked pretty fucking good tonight, though. Amazing what happens when the coach doesn't berate and bench him the first time he turns the ball over or someone scores on him.

[whottt]

It's just like Rasho dunking like 4 times in a game the first time he played us with the Raps...


BFD...he didn't do it for us.....he wouldn't even try it.



Sometimes it takes getting cut to get a guy to pull his head out...and you know what? It hasn't for Beno...he's going to turn into a worthless wuss the when Bibby comes back and the first time Theus yanks him.



Thank god Tony Parker isn't the pussy Beno is. He'd be institutionalized if he had Beno lack of nuts...

[Obstructed_View]

You miss Nazr?
I did during that playoff series against Dallas. Tell me you didn't. Psst: The Spurs lost because they couldn't get any stops. Having someone tall that knew the defense might have helped.

[SRJ]

The past is over, he just erased it.

We know how Beno rolls. That past is coming around again soon enough.

[gamuza]

More like ...

Parker and Manu listened to criticism.
Beno complained about Pop on myspace.
Parker and Manu practiced hard.
Beno sat out of practice with a hangnail.
Parker and Manu thought they had room to improve.
Beno was appalled when the Spurs asked him to work on his shot.

....

who told you so ?? your uncle :rolleyes

more like Beno kicked some spurs asses tonight :lol

[ShoogarBear]

Nazr knew the defense?

[E20]

I thought Nazr was decent. He need more time to adapt to the defense, guess he is a slow learner, he seemed like a hardworker. Spurs offered him a contract, but he declined if I recall correctly.

[whottt]

I did during that playoff series against Dallas. Tell me you didn't. Psst: The Spurs lost because they couldn't get any stops. Having someone tall that knew the defense might have helped.



And the Spurs would have won tonight if they had trapped Beno...PSSST: Pop didn't...I wonder why.

[SRJ]

Having someone tall that knew the defense might have helped.

True - but Nazr was only one half of that guy.

You could give him an open book test about the Spurs defensive schemes and he'd be stuck on question one when time was up.

[SequSpur]

Bottom line...the only guy I know saying Beno sucked that is somehow surprised by this game is Sequ...

WTF? I am surprised by any player dropping 27 on the Spurs. Shit, especially Beno. Beno should've been picked up on D as soon as he got to half court...

You mean to tell me it's not a surprise that Beno dropped 27 on the team he just was waived from?

WTF? It's a got damn surprise... Beno is not a 27 ppg player... You're weird.

[E20]

Nazr knew the defense?
If it were possible to sub players after each possesion, then Pop could have subbed in Rasho for defense and right after sub in Nazr for offensive. :lol

[SequSpur]

Bowen would have owned Beno. If Pop wanted to, he could have rained on his parade.

He was to busy shutting down Kmart.

[ChumpDumper]

Nazr knew the defense?They should stick to revising one player's history at a time.

[Slomo]

More like ...

Parker and Manu listened to criticism.
Beno complained about Pop on myspace.
Parker and Manu practiced hard.
Beno sat out of practice with a hangnail.
Parker and Manu thought they had room to improve.
Beno was appalled when the Spurs asked him to work on his shot.

....But in all fairness, they asked on a Friday, so it's not entirely his fault...

The little fucker punked us tonight, props to him. :lol

Still glad he's gone.

Still hate Spurs-losing-to-bad-teams nights.

[E20]

He was to busy shutting down Kmart.
True.

[Que Gee]

Looked pretty fucking good tonight, though. Amazing what happens when the coach doesn't berate and bench him the first time he turns the ball over or someone scores on him.

Exactly. The guy wasn't a saint...but for chrissakes, if he got the kind of leash that some players have received over the last few years, TP, Finley, NVE, doesn't anyone think he would have turned out pretty damn decent? There are multiple people that felt he was a better pure PG than Tony. Most people realized he was a pretty good ballplayer.

And contrary to what most people "read" and "hear" about Beno, 99% of it is BS.


Good for him. Next?

[Kori Ellis]

who told you so ?? your uncle :rolleyes

more like Beno kicked some spurs asses tonight :lol

:lol Who told me what?

The screen capture of him complaining about Pop on MySpace is here on the forum.

He sat out from practice all the time for minor injuries.

He said himself that he was shocked they wanted him to work on his shot because he had never been asked to work on it before.

These are facts. No one needed to tell me :lol

[gamuza]

And the Spurs would have won tonight if they had trapped Beno...PSSST: Pop didn't...I wonder why.

I know why... you know that guy... Tony I guess he needs to improve his defense don't you think so? :wakeup

[Obstructed_View]

Nazr knew the defense?
I guess he was just going through the motions in the finals against Detroit.

[anakha]

who told you so ?? your uncle :rolleyes

more like Beno kicked some spurs asses tonight :lol

:lol at the Scola slurper jumping on the Beno bandwagon.

[ShoogarBear]

But in all fairness, they asked on a Friday, so it's not entirely his fault...How do you say /thread in Slovenian? :lol

[gamuza]

:lol Who told me what?

The screen capture of him complaining about Pop on MySpace is here on the forum.

He sat out from practice all the time for minor injuries.

He said himself that he was shocked they wanted him to work on his shot because he had never been asked to work on it before.

These are facts. No one needed to tell me :lol

I'm new here got a link?

[E20]

Exactly. The guy wasn't a saint...but for chrissakes, if he got the kind of leash that some players have received over the last few years, TP, Finley, NVE, doesn't anyone think he would have turned out pretty damn decent? There are multiple people that felt he was a better pure PG than Tony. Most people realized he was a pretty good ballplayer.

And contrary to what most people "read" and "hear" about Beno, 99% of it is BS.


Good for him. Next?
Finley and NVE were vets Pop expected out of them what they had to offer and not improve. Pop was HARD AS SHIT ON TP when he was a rook and hard on Manu as well.

[BeerIsGood!]

This is about as much embarrassment as I've felt being a Spurs fan. If every single one of those guys who played tonight in black aren't completely and utterly ashamed for letting that happen then they're in deep, deep shit this season. They didn't even compete. Against the one fucker in the league that they should have the utmost motivation to destroy. I can't even look at my championship gear at this moment...

[whottt]

WTF? I am surprised by any player dropping 27 on the Spurs. Shit, especially Beno. Beno should've been picked up on D as soon as he got to half court...

You mean to tell me it's not a surprise that Beno dropped 27 on the team he just was waived from?

WTF? It's a got damn surprise... Beno is not a 27 ppg player... You're weird.



Hey...ask all the dudes in D-League 1 why I picked his worthless butt up and started him if I didn't think he would do this when getting minutes.


Menkge Bateer could have put up 27 if he was getting 35 minutes a game...it's not hard if you get minutes.







His talent is not the problem...

[gamuza]

:lol at the Scola slurper jumping on the Beno bandwagon.

You never stop dude wanna be my friend? :toast

[SRJ]

They should stick to revising one player's history at a time.

I guess I'll keep my "Stephen Jackson was great at taking care of the ball" comments to myself right now.

[Obstructed_View]

They should stick to revising one player's history at a time.
Yeah, because Nazr didn't start for a championship team. Funny how the Spurs couldn't get out of a semifinal series without him, despite home court advantage. I guess that's all on Parker's thigh or Manu's foul, or maybe it was the officials.

[Obstructed_View]

I'm new here got a link?
Go the fuck away, princess. This is a family discussion.

[ShoogarBear]

I guess he was just going through the motions in the finals against Detroit.He was effective against Detroit, and I was vehemently against Small Ball vs. the Mavs, but saying that Nazr knew the defense doesn't strengthen your argument. He was out of position a lot.

[SequSpur]

Hey...ask all the dudes in D-League 1 why I picked his worthless butt up and started him if I didn't he would do this when getting minutes.


His talent is not the problem...

:lmao

Dude, he dropped 27. If you drop 27 against anyone in an NBA game, you are really good, or you should run to stop and go and buy some lottery cards.

I am amazed that somebody in black and silver didn't stop his ass.

I just don't see him doing that again, no matter how many minutes he gets, shit, he would be better than Tony Parker...

[Que Gee]

Finley and NVE were vets Pop expected out of them what they had to offer and not improve. Pop was HARD AS SHIT ON TP when he was a rook and hard on Manu as well.

Pop gave NVE the whole fucking year...give me a break.

So what if Pop was "hard as shit" on TP...the POINT is, he STILL PLAYED. Pop was "hard as shit?" Why cause he yelled at him?
:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, because Nazr didn't start for a championship team.That <> he knew the defense
Funny how the Spurs couldn't get out of a semifinal series without him, despite home court advantage.Yeah, we never got to the finals ever again.

[E20]

Nazr's defense wasn't as a big as a problem that people are making it out to be.

[RC's Boss]

:lmao @ all the "I told you so's" crawling out of the woodwork.

Beno fucked himself, and unless he's grown up a LOT he will do exactly the same thing in Sacramento.
Really :toast They're almost as bad as the Scola nut holders on here! They both tried to go ape shit against the team that traded them. Big deal! It's no secret that in a 7 game series "party boy" would either fall prey to the trap or sit out the series for an ingrown toenail! When players do that, it only shows the bitch in you! I could see if he was traded to PHX or Dal, but SAC????? Their season stops in April so bottom line, all he did was give himself a good reason to go home and oil himself up and parade around in front of his gentleman "friend" with a pair of heels and a cheetah print thong on. The words Beno and Bitch are synonyms.

[ploto]

but the point is Beno drilled the Spurs tonight. There was no pride by Parker, Vaughn or anyone else to shut his ass down.

The past is over, he just erased it. He dropped the dagger, got the foul and fricking chest bumped everyone right in front of the Spurs bench. He won.


Never thought you and I would agree on something- but Beno basically said, "Bite me" to the Spurs, and no one did anything about it.

[gamuza]

Go the fuck away, princess. This is a family discussion.

:wakeup w'up lost something?

[ChumpDumper]

Nazr's defense wasn't as a big as a problem that people are making it out to be.It was bigger.

[DAINTX]

I cussed Beno'swork ethic constantly when he was here. But, he's starting to convince me that he can be a solid player at this level. When he gets familiar with the King's system and with his teammates, he just might be a minor force. He may never have been a Spurs kind of player re: toughness, work ethic, etc.....but he threw up, what? 27 points against that "terrible" Spurs defense? He doesn't look like a scrub, is all I'm saying. In fact, he looks better than a few other staring points around the league right now, after only a few weeks with his team.

[Obstructed_View]

He was effective against Detroit, and I was vehemently against Small Ball vs. the Mavs, but saying that Nazr knew the defense doesn't strengthen your argument. He was out of position a lot.
And he knew the defense a thousand mother fucking times better than Finley or Oberto did, and you know it, but Pop wouldn't put him in, even when Horry and Timmy were in foul trouble.

Don't be fucking obtuse; it's beneath you.

[SRJ]

Dude, he dropped 27. If you drop 27 against anyone in an NBA game, you are really good, or you should run to stop and go and buy some lottery cards.

I choose B, in this case.

Willie Burton once scored 53 points. He wasn't really good. At all.

[SequSpur]

LMAO at the Nazr comments... :lmao

wtf does this have to do with anything? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Never thought you and I would agree on something- but Beno basically said, "Bite me" to the Spurs, and no one did anything about it.That's how little Beno matters to them

[E20]

Pop gave NVE the whole fucking year...give me a break.

So what if Pop was "hard as shit" on TP...the POINT is, he STILL PLAYED. Pop was "hard as shit?" Why cause he yelled at him?
:lol
He was tough on TP and Manu to grow and become better because they had raw talent to become SKILLFUL players, same case for Beno. The reason TP played was because:

A) He wasn't injured all the time.
B) He would take the abuse, get back in and work on his game
C) He should dedication and commitment

Same for Manu.

The reason Pop wasn't tough on NVE and Finley was because they couldn't improve anymore skillwise they were past their prime.

[Kori Ellis]

By the way, in a weird way I'm glad that Beno went off and the Spurs lost.

I told LJ last night that I was sick of the Spurs winning - it was getting boring this early in the season. And the team was playing poorly and winning. Maybe if they get a few losses under their belt, they will be more apt to work on improving the D.

Plus, Spurs fans have had very little to complain about this year. Now people can think that Beno is the big fish that got away and bitch about it for a few weeks. Hell, I still bitch about Stephen Jackson years later. So have at it Spurs fans.

[dbreiden83080]

They were thinking he was a hack who sucks and he does.

[ShoogarBear]

And he knew the defense a thousand mother fucking times better than Finley or Oberto did, and you know it, but Pop wouldn't put him in, even when Horry and Timmy were in foul trouble.

Don't be fucking obtuse; it's beneath you.Not agreeing with you = obtuse?

And as for what's beneath me, I'll defer to your expertise on that.

[anakha]

By the way, in a weird way I'm glad that Beno went off and the Spurs lost.

I told LJ last night that I was sick of the Spurs winning - it was getting boring this early in the season. And the team was playing poorly and winning. Maybe if they get a few losses under their belt, they will be more apt to work on improving the D.

Plus, Spurs fans have had very little to complain about this year. Now people can think that Beno is the big fish that got away and bitch about it for a few weeks. Hell, I still bitch about Stephen Jackson years later. So have at it Spurs fans.

ST just isn't ST without something to complain about.

At least now, people have something Spurs-related to discuss.

[SRJ]

The reason TP played was because:

A) He wasn't injured all the time.
B) He would take the abuse, get back in and work on his game
C) He should dedication and commitment

D) No one worthwhile played in front of him

Tony had out-of-position Antonio Daniels and 75-year-old Terry Porter playing point in 2001-02. Beno had a future All-Star and Finals MVP playing ahead of him.

[E20]

It was bigger.
When you have Tim Duncan covering your backside and another 1st team defensive player on the team and a team D concept that the rest of the team knew by heart covering you as well, Nazr's D could be overlooked. Fact of the matter is Nazr was in for half the season in the '05 run and had not time to pick up the D, the only reason he got in the rotation was cause of Rasho's injury. Training camp came and Nazr had personal leaves of absences (baby born and religous). So, essentially he had one full season to pick up the D, which most Spurs players have. He played well (stat wise through out the season), played well in the Sac series, but once he hit that three in Game 2, he was benched and Pop went Small and never went back to using Rasho or Nazr. Why did I write that and why is Nazr in a Beno thread?

[SequSpur]

By the way, in a weird way I'm glad that Beno went off and the Spurs lost.

I told LJ last night that I was sick of the Spurs winning - it was getting boring this early in the season. And the team was playing poorly and winning. Maybe if they get a few losses under their belt, they will be more apt to work on improving the D.

Plus, Spurs fans have had very little to complain about this year. Now people can think that Beno is the big fish that got away and bitch about it for a few weeks. Hell, I still bitch about Stephen Jackson years later. So have at it Spurs fans.

Stephen Jackson is bad azz.

[Que Gee]

The reason Pop wasn't tough on NVE and Finley was because they couldn't improve anymore skillwise they were past their prime.

Which is why Pop should have benched NVE ass for good, and let the "raw talent" of Beno get out and play. And be "hard as shit on him" in the process to make him a better player.

[ploto]

Funny how so many people forget about the Tony Parker who went to the San Antonio press and whined about the Spurs wanting Jason Kidd. You know- the one who said the Spurs were HIS team and that he did not want to play SG with Kidd at PG.

[Obstructed_View]

By the way, in a weird way I'm glad that Beno went off and the Spurs lost.

I told LJ last night that I was sick of the Spurs winning - it was getting boring this early in the season. And the team was playing poorly and winning. Maybe if they get a few losses under their belt, they will be more apt to work on improving the D.

Plus, Spurs fans have had very little to complain about this year. Now people can think that Beno is the big fish that got away and bitch about it for a few weeks. Hell, I still bitch about Stephen Jackson years later. So have at it Spurs fans.

I'm glad the little prick is gone. I consider most of the reasons people cite for disliking him completely valid. That said, I strongly believe that Pop mismanaged a high draft pick stunting his development, resulting in the loss of that asset to the team at extra expense. Seems like a waste to me when you are happy to pay a few million dollars to dump a first round pick just so he can go be productive somewhere else. Of course, he'll probably fall out of his car tonight and be on the injured list for the rest of the season, rendering this whole discussion moot.

[Kori Ellis]

Stephen Jackson is bad azz.

Yeah, no kidding. I wish we had that hardass mofo on the Spurs :lol

[E20]

D) No one worthwhile played in front of him

Tony had out-of-position Antonio Daniels and 75-year-old Terry Porter playing point in 2001-02. Beno had a future All-Star and Finals MVP playing ahead of him.
Which should have made it easier for him to play and succeed when minutes were given to him. He had less pressure, because he would know that Tony has his back if he made amistake.

[ChumpDumper]

Which is why Pop should have benched NVE ass for good, and let the "raw talent" of Beno get out and play. And be "hard as shit on him" in the process to make him a better player.Chuck Hayes was hard enough on Beno.

[Kori Ellis]

Of course, he'll probably fall out of his car tonight and be on the injured list for the rest of the season, rendering this whole discussion moot.

:lol

[slayermin]

Spurs Big Three: 14-36 shooting; 36 points.
Beno Udrih: 8-12 shooting; 27 points.

[RC's Boss]

By the way, in a weird way I'm glad that Beno went off and the Spurs lost.

I told LJ last night that I was sick of the Spurs winning - it was getting boring this early in the season. And the team was playing poorly and winning. Maybe if they get a few losses under their belt, they will be more apt to work on improving the D.

Plus, Spurs fans have had very little to complain about this year. Now people can think that Beno is the big fish that got away and bitch about it for a few weeks. Hell, I still bitch about Stephen Jackson years later. So have at it Spurs fans.
Yeah the post counts are about to go up. Maybe Scola will avg. 25 and 10 in December???? That'll really get shit cooking :clap

[ChumpDumper]

high draft pickNow Beno's a high draft pick!

:lmao

[E20]

Which is why Pop should have benched NVE ass for good, and let the "raw talent" of Beno get out and play. And be "hard as shit on him" in the process to make him a better player.
That would be a bad time to do that, because we were in the middle of a series against a GREAT Dallas team. Putting an injured and unmotivated Beno in would be suicide.

[Obstructed_View]

Which is why Pop should have benched NVE ass for good, and let the "raw talent" of Beno get out and play. And be "hard as shit on him" in the process to make him a better player.
Being hard on him might have worked if he'd been allowed back on the floor after a mistake. Since it was a formula that worked really well for the current backcourt it should have been attempted. Water under the bridge. Sacramento isn't going to be a factor, so who cares. The Spurs did everything right this offseason. I'd rather have Washington than Udrih at this point, talent or no.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Funny how so many people forget about the Tony Parker who went to the San Antonio press and whined about the Spurs wanting Jason Kidd. You know- the one who said the Spurs were HIS team and that he did not want to play SG with Kidd at PG.

Yeah, it's not like Tony accomplished anything to eventually prove his worth to the franchise.

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200706/r151985_542621.jpg

[Que Gee]

Stephen Jackson is bad azz.

He was "de man" tonight. Monta Ellis was to..he dropped 15 in a row. It was a good game to watch.

[SequSpur]

Funny how so many people forget about the Tony Parker who went to the San Antonio press and whined about the Spurs wanting Jason Kidd. You know- the one who said the Spurs were HIS team and that he did not want to play SG with Kidd at PG.

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/images/2006/03/jack-black-diary.jpg

[Kori Ellis]

. Maybe Scola will avg. 25 and 10 in December???? That'll really get shit cooking :clap

:lol

Oh gosh, no. I don't want to close 30 Scola threads a day :lmao

[E20]

Yeah, it's not like Tony accomplished anything to prove his worth to the franchise.

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200706/r151985_542621.jpg
Yeah he lured in Eva, boosting up revenue and profit at an all time high.

[RC's Boss]

Spurs Big Three: 14-36 shooting; 36 points.
Beno Udrih: 8-12 shooting; 27 points.
Spurs:12-3 Kings:5-9

[MannyIsGod]

Obstructed View has the most appropriate moniker out of anyone in this thread. How anyone can defend Beno at this point is beyond me. If Beno had his way he would still be sitting out with the same injury that sidelined him much of this year with the Spurs.

I honestly cannot believe there is an actual "debate" on the subject of Beno.

Lots of players have scored a lot of points for bad teams. Lots.

[Kori Ellis]

Ron Mercer averaged 20 ppg elsewhere.

He came to the Spurs, some Spurs fans rode his jock.

He got cut midseason and the Spurs ate his $7M (?) salary.

Some people don't make it as a Spur. There's reasons for that. It doesn't mean they aren't going to do well elsewhere. But it doesn't make the Spurs stupid for getting rid of them.

[ShoogarBear]

James White!

[Kori Ellis]

LJ 3!

[Obstructed_View]

Now Beno's a high draft pick!

:lmao
I'd consider a first round pick a high draft pick, whether or not he's the highest draft pick the Spurs had since Duncan and Parker.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Devin Brown!

[ploto]

Yeah, it's not like Tony accomplished anything to eventually prove his worth to the franchise.

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

[E20]

Devin Brown!
Ughhhh....He was good. :lol

[ShoogarBear]

Andres Nocioni!




No, wait, that one does hurt.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Ughhhh....He was good. :lol

My point was is that he was a player that did things that didn't work with the system and was let go. He's also played well since he left.

Hell, I love Devin Brown and wish he were a Spur, but alas...

[ploto]

Ron Mercer averaged 20 ppg elsewhere.

He came to the Spurs, some Spurs fans rode his jock.

He got cut midseason and the Spurs ate his $7M (?) salary.

Some people don't make it as a Spur. There's reasons for that. It doesn't mean they aren't going to do well elsewhere. But it doesn't make the Spurs stupid for getting rid of them.
Yeh, but the Spurs should have never picked up Beno's option. They made that decision two years into it.

[ShoogarBear]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.I must have missed the part about Tony getting out of shape and not working on his game.

[Buddy Holly]

NBA fans are like moths, they're attracted to whatever light is near them. When a player does well for one game, that light is brighter than the sun and those moths converge on it like bears to honey.

[RC's Boss]

Obstructed View has the most appropriate moniker out of anyone in this thread. How anyone can defend Beno at this point is beyond me. If Beno had his way he would still be sitting out with the same injury that sidelined him much of this year with the Spurs.

I honestly cannot believe there is an actual "debate" on the subject of Beno.

Lots of players have scored a lot of points for bad teams. Lots.
Yeah it is a bit retarded. At least Scola never played here, but damn... Beno is like off- brand cereal. A generic PG on a now generic team. He probably circled this date on his calendar... "Memo to self... 11-26, make sure you don't stomp your toe so you will be able to play against the Spurs and prove that "mean ole Pop" wrong."

[Kori Ellis]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

And he also apologized to the Spurs, admitted that it was wrong to go to the press and learned his lesson.

It doesn't justify Beno going to the press, over and over and over and over and over, while caring more about the nightclub than the practice facility.

I understand you love him. I understand that you think the Spurs organization has wronged him in some manner. But really, the Parker/Kidd thing is irrelevant.

[Obstructed_View]

Obstructed View has the most appropriate moniker out of anyone in this thread. How anyone can defend Beno at this point is beyond me. If Beno had his way he would still be sitting out with the same injury that sidelined him much of this year with the Spurs.

I honestly cannot believe there is an actual "debate" on the subject of Beno.

Lots of players have scored a lot of points for bad teams. Lots.
Sorry. I don't feel like playing imaginary "ifs and buts". If you can't back up your position with facts, don't try to use fantasy. If Beno wanted to be sitting out with a broken finger he'd be doing it in Sacramento, anyway.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

How does it not matter what happened later? Tony proved he could do what he does with his chances. Did Beno?

You can talk if you can back it up. I guess now we can all forgive Beno because he dropped the hammer on the Spurs.

[BeerIsGood!]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

... and Beno handled about 300 things poorly during his time with the Spurs.

[Kori Ellis]

Andres Nocioni!




No, wait, that one does hurt.

I forgot .. who got fired for the messed up birthdate?

[Obstructed_View]

Yeh, but the Spurs should have never picked up Beno's option. They made that decision two years into it.
I'll never understand that decision. Ever. Regardless of what any of us think of Beno, that decision cannot be justified.

[ploto]

And he also apologized to the Spurs, admitted that it was wrong to go to the press and learned his lesson.

It doesn't justify Beno going to the press, over and over and over and over and over, while caring more about the nightclub than the practice facility.

I understand you love him. I understand that you think the Spurs organization has wronged him in some manner. But really, the Parker/Kidd thing is irrelevant.
What is relevant is the double standard of the fans. They harp on one player for something but not others who do exactly the same thing. People who hated Kidd applauded what Tony did when he griped publicly, and that is my problem.

[ShoogarBear]

If Beno wanted to be sitting out with a broken finger he'd be doing it in Sacramento, anyway.He tried to.

Theus made him start playing about 2-3 games before Beno thought he'd be ready.

[Obstructed_View]

How does it not matter what happened later? Tony proved he could do what he does with his chances. Did Beno?
So far as I can tell this is the first one he's gotten. Looks like he's doing okay.

[Kori Ellis]

What is relevant is the double standard of the fans. They harp on one player for something but not others who do exactly the same thing. People who hated Kidd applauded what Tony did when he griped publicly, and that is my problem.

No, your problem is that you are a Beno fan and not a fan of the Spurs organization.

[ShoogarBear]

I forgot .. who got fired for the messed up birthdate?Was that Lance Blanks?

[whottt]

By the way...the game Darius Washington played tonight in only about his fifth minute of the season...would rank as Beno's 3rd best game as a Spur.

[Que Gee]

Does not matter what he did later- the point is he whined and complained about the Spurs purposefully, publicly, and with a clear agenda to the San Antonio media. He did not want to be replaced by Jason Kidd who was at the time BETTER than him. He did not think he should have to sacrifice anything for what the team and Tim himself wanted. No matter how you felt about the pursuit of Kidd or the joy that it did not come to fruition, the point is that Tony handled it poorly.

Come on, people don't remember that.
:lol

Tony was the MVP of the Finals. He had always been the man. :elephant

[BeerIsGood!]

What does Parker/Kidd have to do with this current situation? Parker has proven what he can do, Beno proved to be worthless when it counted. Luckily for Beno the Kings won't sniff the playoffs and he won't be asked to do anything under pressure.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll never understand that decision. Ever. Regardless of what any of us think of Beno, that decision cannot be justified.Of course it can. Hope springs eternal. Beno still had talent and was cheap and as it turned out, not too expensive to get rid of.

[whottt]

Meanwhile...at least Bonner stopped sucking.

[Kori Ellis]

Was that Lance Blanks?

No... Blanks got fired much later. Maybe Sam Schuler(sp?).

[SRJ]

They harp on one player for something but not others who do exactly the same thing.

Exactly the same thing? It's charitable to call the two situations "somewhat comparable".

[Obstructed_View]

He tried to.

Theus made him start playing about 2-3 games before Beno thought he'd be ready.

So you're telling me that Pop couldn't make Beno do in three plus years what Reggie Theus did in a week?

[Kori Ellis]

Meanwhile...at least Bonner stopped sucking.

:tu

Hopefully he can steadily improve.

[Obstructed_View]

By the way...the game Darius Washington played tonight in only about his fifth minute of the season...would rank as Beno's 3rd best game as a Spur.
:lol

[whottt]

Tony Parker complained after the Spurs won a title with him as the starting PG...he also took umpteen public lashings from Pop and callouts from David Robinson and everyone else in the process of doing that.


Tony Parker earned his spot...Beno Udrih didn't earn shit, including the two rings he has on his finger from his time as a Spur.

And you know what? Tony was right...Beno isn't.



Hey Kori...please bookmark this thread for posterity so the idiots will be easy to track down...place it next to the Speedy Claxton threads...thanks.



At least Speedy played good in a finals game.


Idiots that want to put a guy in the HOF over one game...

[Que Gee]

It doesn't justify Beno going to the press, over and over and over and over and over,


:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Tony shouldn't have gone to the press about Kidd, but that's a far cry from blaming your team and coach for all your problems.

[BeerIsGood!]

So you're telling me that Pop couldn't make Beno do in three plus years what Reggie Theus did in a week?

Pop never had the "luxury" of having a shitty team with no expectations so he could afford to throw someone out there even if they didn't want to be there. Pop had titles to defend.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

So far as I can tell this is the first one he's gotten. Looks like he's doing okay.

If you think Beno didn't have a shot, then you haven't been watching the past few years.

[Kori Ellis]

:lol

Why is it funny? You didn't listen to his multitude of interviews this summer?

[SRJ]

So you're telling me that Pop couldn't make Beno do in three plus years what Reggie Theus did in a week?

Actually, that's plausible.

It's not hard to imagine Beno feeling stung by the criticisms by Pop, and thinking that he'll turn over a new leaf with his new team. Unfortunately, that burning ambition doesn't last with lazy people.

Take it from me - we can smell our own.

[RC's Boss]

So you're telling me that Pop couldn't make Beno do in three plus years what Reggie Theus did in a week?
Didn't need to. Bibby is ALWAYS hurt. Tony rarely misses games.

[ShoogarBear]

Why is it funny? You didn't listen to his multitude of interviews this summer?Where is LJ? Getting sloshed so he can do an all-time great Game Thoughts?

[BeerIsGood!]

We better get used to seeing this thread bumped over and over once Beno gets satisfied with his meager accomplishments and turns back into lazy Beno once again.


Over/Under on how long it takes for Beno to cry to the Slovenian papers that Theus is a racist and hates white european guards?

I'll guess one week after Bibby returns.

[Kori Ellis]

Where is LJ? Getting sloshed so he can do an all-time great Game Thoughts?

He's doing them now.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Where is LJ? Getting sloshed so he can do an all-time great Game Thoughts?

I'd stay up for that.

[MannyIsGod]

I am one hundred percent sure that if Parker had more in common with Beno than ONE incident of going to the media that Spurs fans would harp on him as well.

However, 2 all star games and one finals MVP later and the differences could not be any clearer.

I guess in some twisted fucked up place Pluto's ideas are correct, however. Just not in this reality.

[Obstructed_View]

Of course it can. Hope springs eternal. Beno still had talent and was cheap and as it turned out, not too expensive to get rid of.
We knew everything we needed to know about Beno and this organization long before that signing. How is it that the front office and the head coach didn't? Beno had talent, but he'd worn out his welcome. Any benefit of the doubt he might have had dried up, he was likely never to get a legitimate shot, the relationship was going to devolve, and the Spurs were going to give something up to get rid of him because he wouldn't last the length of the contract.


If you think Beno didn't have a shot, then you haven't been watching the past few years.
If you classify being on the floor until you make a mistake a shot, then you might be correct.

[ShoogarBear]

Here are mine:

Tony: sucked
Manu: sucked
Tim: sucked
Pop: sucked

[ploto]

Exactly the same thing? It's charitable to call the two situations "somewhat comparable".
You know Tony partied as much as Beno-- often at the same place. No one cared.

[Kori Ellis]

You know Tony partied as much as Beno-- often at the same place. No one cared.

You know Tony didn't get fat every offseason.

[MannyIsGod]

You know Tony partied as much as Beno-- often at the same place. No one cared.Why is Tony Parker better than Beno Udrih?

[ShoogarBear]

Tony worked on his game when asked. Beno got offended.

[SRJ]

You know Tony partied as much as Beno-- often at the same place. No one cared.

Was it evident in his play? His conditioning? His attitude?

That seems to be the difference - and the reason no one cared.

[ploto]

You know Tony didn't get fat every offseason.
Then gripe about his weight and not his partying.

Gripe about his practice and not his interviews.

Gripe about the things that actually matter-- and not the things that other players did and people thought was fine.

[MannyIsGod]

Tony worked on his game when asked. Beno got offended.You know, you would think that people who are trying to make a point (however stupid it may be) would not try to compare an underachiever with the latest Finals MVP. It really isn't a good debate practice to try to make a pile of dog shit look better by comparing it to solid gold.

[ChumpDumper]

We knew everything we needed to know about Beno and this organization long before that signing. How is it that the front office and the head coach didn't?Yeah, you were clamoring for his ouster back then, weren't you? Now you're revising your own history :lol
Beno had talent, but he'd worn out his welcome. Any benefit of the doubt he might have had dried up, he was likely never to get a legitimate shot, the relationship was going to devolve, and the Spurs were going to give something up to get rid of him because he wouldn't last the length of the contract.Obviously this was not the case, I know it doesn't fit your agenda but it's the truth. He might still be here had Darius Washington not shown such promise.

[Obstructed_View]

We better get used to seeing this thread bumped over and over once Beno gets satisfied with his meager accomplishments and turns back into lazy Beno once again.
It's possible that's going to happen, but Since Beno dribbled the ball past half court with success dozens of times and the Spurs were unable to turn him into a blubbering mass of turnovers, and since he took a foul from Duncan, limped to the free throw line and finished the game, he could step in front of a bus tonight and I'll consider my point proven. Like I said, I'm glad he's gone, and I'm on record saying it happened a year too late. I never hated him the way some of you do. I'm not sure I've ever hated anybody the way some of you hate Beno.

[BeerIsGood!]

You know Tony partied as much as Beno-- often at the same place. No one cared.

Damn, the level of delusion that some people let their obsessions take them to is unbelievable.

Realistic, non-obsessed fans don't care what a player does as long as he stays clear of the law and performs on the court.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Tony got married, had an injury and practiced with his national team this summer: He's an All-Star candidate.

Beno felt the same way about practice as Allen Iverson, circa the Sixers.

[MannyIsGod]

Then gripe about his weight and not his partying.

Gripe about his practice and not his interviews.

Gripe about the things that actually matter-- and not the things that other players did and people thought was fine.Semantics much? Maybe its not the partying directly but the lack of priorties. If a person is able to handle partying and still improve in their job environment then kudos to them. If a person is NOT able to do that, then the partying is an issue.

[SRJ]

At least we have a new Classic Thread.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Kori, can you post that screenshot of Beno's MySpace response to Midge, please?

[hitmanyr2k]

You know, you would think that people who are trying to make a point (however stupid it may be) would not try to compare an underachiever with the latest Finals MVP. It really isn't a good debate practice to try to make a pile of dog shit look better by comparing it to solid gold.

Give me a break with this garbage lol. So Tony Parker dominated Boobie fuckin Gibson in the Finals :lol Who gives a shit? What did Parker do against Jason Kidd? What did Parker do against Chauncey Billups? Dude folded like a fuckin lawn chair :lol

The funny thing is Beno gets shit for not being able to handle Lindsey Hunter in the 2005 Finals but Parker gets a free pass when he turned into Houdini in that series lol. As that series went on Parker shrunk so much you needed a microscope to find his ass on the floor. Popovich practically had to hide him on offense in Game 7 lol.

[ChumpDumper]

Then gripe about his weight and not his partying.

Gripe about his practice and not his interviews.

Gripe about the things that actually matter-- and not the things that other players did and people thought was fine.The only similarity between Tony's going to the press and Beno's going to the press is that they both went to the press. Tony voiced his opinion about his role on the team. Beno used it as a platform to blame all his problems on everyone but himself.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

At least we have a new Classic Thread.

By the time this season's over, we may have a new GOAT.

[Kori Ellis]

Then gripe about his weight and not his partying.

Gripe about his practice and not his interviews.

Gripe about the things that actually matter-- and not the things that other players did and people thought was fine.


They all matter.

Every Spur can go nightclubs and it doesn't make a difference, if they don't let themselves get out of shape and continue to practice hard.

Every Spur can go to the press once about something that matters to them, and then admit they handle it wrong.

[Kori Ellis]

Kori, can you post that screenshot of Beno's MySpace response to Midge, please?

It's in the Quattro somewhere.

[SRJ]

What did Parker do against Jason Kidd?

Played pretty well.


What did Parker do against Chauncey Billups.

Advanced the ball past half court.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Give me a break with this garbage lol. So Tony Parker dominated Boobie fuckin Gibson in the Finals :lol Who gives a shit? What did Parker do against Jason Kidd? What did Parker do against Chauncey Billups? Dude folded like a fuckin lawn chair :lol

The funny thing is Beno gets shit for not being able to handle Lindsey Hunter in the 2005 Finals but Parker gets a free pass when he turned into Houdini in that series lol. As that series went on Parker shrunk so much you needed a microscope to find his ass on the floor. Popovich practically had to hide him on offense in Game 7 lol.

So maybe if Beno was the starter in 2006, the Spurs would have won the championship?

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah, you were clamoring for his ouster back then, weren't you? Now you're revising your own history
That I said he's a good basketball player <> I wanted the Spurs to pick up his option. You're welcome to go back through any of my posts, because I said that he needed to go. There might be one where I predicted exactly this.


Obviously this was not the case, I know it doesn't fit your agenda but it's the truth. He might still be here had Darius Washington not shown such promise.
So it was not the case, but it's the truth. Nice.

[BeerIsGood!]

It's possible that's going to happen, but Since Beno dribbled the ball past half court with success dozens of times and the Spurs were unable to turn him into a blubbering mass of turnovers, and since he took a foul from Duncan, limped to the free throw line and finished the game, he could step in front of a bus tonight and I'll consider my point proven. Like I said, I'm glad he's gone, and I'm on record saying it happened a year too late. I never hated him the way some of you do. I'm not sure I've ever hated anybody the way some of you hate Beno.

I just hate that he is now proving for certain that he completely dogged it his entire time in SA. Sure Pop and the organization could have handled things a bit differently and there is blame there that Pop has admitted, but Beno obviously did absolutely nothing on purpose and was satisfied to ride others' coattails to get rings. He could have easily had the backup position and PT if he would have just not been such a little pussy with every minor injury taking 7+ weeks to heal. His actions while taking millions of dollars is absolutely disgusting.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h290/midgetonadonkey/benoresponse.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

That I said he's a good basketball player <> I wanted the Spurs to pick up his option. You're welcome to go back through any of my posts, because I said that he needed to go. There might be one where I predicted exactly this.And sign whom? For how much? Beno was cheap and talented. Since there was no other option that you could come up with, it was fine to try again.



So it was not the case, but it's the truth. Nice.No, it wasn't the truth. I'd say don't be obtuse, but I realize your agenda won't allow anything else.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

And in case your tears of joy at seeing Beno's face are blocking your view, check the bottom of the screencap.

[Obstructed_View]

The only similarity between Tony's going to the press and Beno's going to the press is that they both went to the press. Tony voiced his opinion about his role on the team. Beno used it as a platform to blame all his problems on everyone but himself.
I agree. There's no justification for what Beno did IMO. Nobody put a gun to his head to sign with the Spurs. Parker always worked harder than Beno, and had earned some latitude. Beno missed too many camps to get away with going down that road.

[Obstructed_View]

I'd say don't be obtuse, but I realize your agenda won't allow anything else.
You'd say don't be obtuse, but you realize how hypocritcal that would look, as it's basically all you've done.

[ChumpDumper]

You'd say don't be obtuse, but you realize how hypocritcal that would look, as it's basically all you've done.Nah, I've been consistent and clear. At the time of the option, the reasons for keeping Beno outweighed the reasons for getting rid of him and costs thereof. Pretty simple if you actually think about it.

So don't be obtuse.

[Slohoop]

Beno OWNED Pony Tarker!! :toast

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Beno OWNED Pony Tarker!! :toast

Spelling owned you.

[SRJ]

Beno OWNS taquitos!!! :toast

[ChumpDumper]

Must be hilarious in Slovenian.

[timvp]

Is this thread worth the read?

TIA.

[Kori Ellis]

Is this thread worth the read?

TIA.

It's funny.

People even begin missing Nazr in it :lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

It's funny.

People even begin missing Nazr in it :lol

Why did I just get this visual of LJ doing the cartoon double take?

[ChumpDumper]

It's funny.

People even begin missing Nazr in it :lolDude knew the defense, apparently. Go figure.

[slayermin]

Youtube

Beno's Interview after the game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0EdT1p5FiM)

[ShoogarBear]

Is this thread worth the read?

TIA.Better than your Game Thoughts. :sleep What a letdown.

[E20]

Youtube

Beno's Interview after the game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0EdT1p5FiM)
Damn.....the internet is so fucking fast at doing shit like that. :lol

[ShoogarBear]

Damn.....the internet is so fucking fast at doing shit like that. :lolSkynet has become self-aware?

[E20]

Skynet has become self-aware?
Rambo and Norris went back in time to take care of that problem after Arnold failed.

[sendman]

I have a question.
Is it possible for the Kings to get highly protected second round pick for Udrih?
I don't think so.
You must be some kind of wizard to do that.

[Sacramental]

Reminds me of the last supper.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20071127/i/r2314288920.jpg

[ShoogarBear]

Manu needs a toothpick.

[T Park]

A championship team.

I know you guys are used to watching them from afar.

[SAtown]

Reminds me of the last supper.



Barry is Judas.

[Mister Sinister]

Rambo and Norris went back in time to take care of that problem after Arnold failed.
And Bill Brasky had to take care of it after they failed.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

15.68 Dynasty Points.

:smokin

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Ron Mercer averaged 20 ppg elsewhere.

He came to the Spurs, some Spurs fans rode his jock.

He got cut midseason and the Spurs ate his $7M (?) salary.

Some people don't make it as a Spur. There's reasons for that. It doesn't mean they aren't going to do well elsewhere. But it doesn't make the Spurs stupid for getting rid of them.

Sanest comment in the thread. Thank you, Kori.

Also, first loss on a back-to-back. Maybe it will awaken the team from its defensive slumber...

[Bruno]

Beno Thread! : 248 posts
Scola Thread! : 410 posts

At this pace, Beno will catch Scola soon and will become the biggest mistake of Spurs' history.

[sendman]

And people say that Bowen is dirty.
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/38b00704-c3b8-4399-b7e0-44dcf7240721.jpg