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clambake
11-28-2007, 05:18 PM
Pentagon Makes Official Protest to China
By LOLITA C. BALDOR – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon issued a formal protest to China on Wednesday over its refusal to permit U.S. Navy ships to enter the port of Hong Kong on two occasions last week.

"We are expressing officially our displeasure with the incident," Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell told reporters. He said a Chinese military officer who is Beijing's defense attache in Washington was called to the Pentagon to accept the protest from a Pentagon Asia policy official. Morrell called it an "a formal protest, an official protest, complaint," for refusing port entry for two U.S. Navy minesweepers and, later, for the USS Kitty Hawk and its accompanying battle group.

Also, the Chinese foreign minister met with President Bush on Wednesday and blamed the incident on "a misunderstanding."

Morrell said that it is not yet clear whether the Chinese military officer will indeed heed the summons to come to the Pentagon. Morrell said the summons constituted the official protest, but he did not release the wording.

Navy officials have said they are most troubled by China's refusal to let the two Navy minesweepers enter Hong Kong harbor to escape an approaching storm and receive fuel. The minesweepers, the Patriot and the Guardian, were instead refueled at sea and returned safely to their home port in Japan.

In addition, the Chinese also refused to allow the Kitty Hawk, a U.S. aircraft carrier, to make a planned Thanksgiving port visit to Hong Kong.

The Kitty Hawk, which has its home port near Tokyo, was forced to return early to Japan when Chinese authorities at the last minute barred the warship and its escort vessels from entering Hong Kong harbor. Hundreds of families of sailors aboard the Kitty Hawk had flown from Japan to spend Thanksgiving weekend in Hong Kong, but had to return home after China refused the port entry.

Later Chinese officials said the Kitty Hawk could enter the port, but by then the carrier had left the area and did not return.

On Tuesday, two of the Navy's top admirals said that China's refusal was surprising and troubling.

"This is perplexing. It's not helpful," Adm. Timothy Keating, commander of U.S. Pacific Command, told reporters in a videoteleconference from his headquarters at Camp Smith, Hawaii. He also called it distressing and irritating but later said it should not be viewed as "calamitous."

"It's not, in our view, conduct that is indicative of a country that understands its obligations as a responsible nation," he said, adding that he hopes it does not indicate a lasting blockage of port visits.

China's foreign minister, in the meeting with Bush, blamed "a misunderstanding" for the refusal to allow a flotilla of U.S. warships to make a port call in Hong Kong for a Thanksgiving holiday visit.

Bush raised the issue with Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi when he visited the Oval Office for talks about North Korea, Iran and other issues. The incident added an unusual twist to China-U.S. relations, strained in recent months by disputes over trade and Iran's nuclear program.

"Foreign Minister Yang assured the president that it was a misunderstanding," White House press secretary Dana Perino said. She said she could not explain the nature of the misunderstanding.

The aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk and members of its strike group, including a nuclear submarine, were scheduled to dock in Hong Kong for a four-day visit. At the same time hundreds of sailors' families had flown to the city to spend the holiday with loved ones, dozens of Americans living in Hong Kong had prepared turkey dinners for those without relatives.

Hong Kong has long been a favored port of call for the U.S. military but Beijing's approval has been required since July 1, 1997, when Britain handed this former colony back to China. Hong Kong's Marine Department, which handles logistic arrangements for ships docking in Hong Kong's deep-water port, said it had not received the documentation it normally would receive from other agencies clearing the arrival of foreign military ships.

Associated Press writer Deb Riechmann contributed to this story.

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We better be careful. It's a good idea not to piss off the landlord.

Nbadan
11-28-2007, 06:03 PM
....One theory going around is that the Chinese are pissed because of the recent Dalai Lama visit to Washington....

Nbadan
11-28-2007, 06:09 PM
..one thing that now seems to have come full circle though is my recent post titled, The Uninvited Guest (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81308)..all of the sudden that incident doesn't seem so coincidental....

...shot across the bow? and what implications does this have for Taiwan, and the trillion plus in debt, mostly from the U.S. housing 'boom' that the Chinese hold......

clambake
11-28-2007, 08:27 PM
..one thing that now seems to have come full circle though is my recent post titled, The Uninvited Guest (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81308)..all of the sudden that incident doesn't seem so coincidental....

...shot across the bow? and what implications does this have for Taiwan, and the trillion plus in debt, mostly from the U.S. housing 'boom' that the Chinese hold......
they also hold all the cards. could you imagine the traffic on this if a democrat had sold our soul?

Nbadan
11-29-2007, 04:20 PM
BEIJING - China hinted Thursday that Congress' honoring of the Dalai Lama and U.S. arms sales to Taiwan led it to cancel a U.S. Navy visit to Hong Kong, an incident that could open a new rift in military relations that had warmed in recent years.

The Pentagon summoned a Chinese military attache to protest the decision, which the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, called "perplexing." President Bush raised the issue with Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi during their talks on North Korea, Iran and other issues.

Last week's incident has added an unusual twist to Chinese-U.S. relations, which have been strained in recent months by disputes over trade and Iran's nuclear program.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao did not draw a direct connection between any specific event and China's barring of the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk and its escort vessels from entering Hong Kong harbor for a planned Thanksgiving visit.

However, he said a report from Washington that quoted Yang as calling the incident a misunderstanding was "not in line with the facts." He said ties had been "disturbed and harmed" by U.S. actions.

Yahoooo (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071129/ap_on_re_as/china_us_navy)

clambake
11-29-2007, 06:35 PM
we should be more careful. they could call in the note or foreclose. its best to make repairs yourself.

did we insure these loans with Lloyds of London?

Nbadan
12-01-2007, 03:09 AM
Looks like the Chinese have been rejecting more American flotillas than we have been led to believe....


The Chinese rejection of U.S. ship visits into Hong Kong is broader than initially reported, the Pentagon said Friday, revealing for the first time that a third incident had occurred last week.

According to a defense official, a request for the USS Reuben James, a Navy frigate, to make a New Year's holiday stop in Hong Kong was formally denied by the Chinese last Thursday. The denial came the same day the Chinese turned away the USS Kitty Hawk and five ships accompanying it for a Thanksgiving port call.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the denial has not been publicly announced, said the Reuben James, based in Pearl Harbor, had made the port visit request in October.

According to the official, shortly after the Kitty Hawk was turned away, the Chinese reversed their decision and said the ship could enter the harbor, but by then the ship was too far out to sea. During that notification, the Chinese also told the Navy that the Reuben James visit was being denied. No reason was given for the refusal.

Yahooo (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071130/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_china)

clambake
12-01-2007, 10:36 AM
According to the official, shortly after the Kitty Hawk was turned away, the Chinese reversed their decision and said the ship could enter the harbor, but by then the ship was too far out to sea.

"sike"

Cant_Be_Faded
12-01-2007, 03:52 PM
This whole dalai lama and other shit was retarded

Why the fuck this country would go out of its way to strain China relations is inexplicable. We should slowly be working towards improving relations with them especially with inconsequential matters as the Dalai Lama....i don't see any real value of our actions with him except estranging China.

spurster
12-01-2007, 04:06 PM
I so agree that the US should not be meeting leaders who stand for human rights. How are we going to convince the world to do what we say or else we'll torture them?

Yonivore
12-01-2007, 04:37 PM
"sike"
I believe you intended, "psyche!"