Carmelo Anthony: THUG

[dickface]

what about this little bit of comedic genius.

It will be ok ...

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[JamStone]

LMAO! Mono, you changed screen names to continue to argue. Come on now.

[JamStone]

Tell Melo I need court side tickets for the Pistons game when they come into Detroit. Oh, and tell him he's still a punk. I just had his back on this particular issue. Thanks, Woody.

[JamStone]

I don't mess with guns. But, if he can get me a complimentary Nate Robinson Knicks jersey, it would be great.

[Cry Havoc]

My point is that you initially stated it was an above the shoulders foul so it meant it was an automatic ejection, no room for interpretation or debate. And, I'm pointing out that that rule didn't apply because it wasn't an elbow. You were wrong. Admit it. Wrong. Don't pronounce the "W." Wrong.

You've been done. You're over-cooked.

Except they don't have to prove you wrong, considering the referee in question agrees with their assessment of the situation. And considering how you bandy on so about the "slow-mo replay", it's rather interesting that we are looking at a play that happened on a horrible video with poor quality and distant perspective.

Yet instead of attacking the official (who had a much more advantageous view of the play, and has a much better idea of what constitutes an ejection than we do) for making an improper call, you're going after the people who are just stating that they agree with the official decision to eject a player. Your stance is basically, "well, they didn't suspend him so obviously it wasn't too bad".

Uh. Hold on their buddy. Melo got tossed. Not after a discussion. Not after a checking of the rules. The official saw the play and immediately threw him out with a flagrant two. Now, I've seen some pretty crazy flops in my life. I don't recall the last time a flop got the other player immediately thrown out of the game. There is absolutely NO visual evidence to suggest that Melo should have stayed in the game. Throat grab. Ejection. Simple. Even you admit his hands closed around his throat. I've never really tried to grab a guys chest, so I'm pretty sure Melo knew what was going on.

As far as his reaction goes, well damn, maybe was surprised that the fingers of another player were curled around his throat in a game that was no longer in doubt? I got shoved really hard for blocking a player's shot one time in a pickup game. It surprised me so much because it was a clean block that I didn't even think to shove the guy back. I was just like, "... did that just happen?" By the time I realized the exact reason and circumstance, the moment of anger had long past. Vuj just looks like a guy who's a bit blitzed by what happens and is trying to walk it off. Why would he be criticized for that? Players walk off injuries all the time and are fine afterwards. If I had a guys hand on my throat, I'd want to make DAMN sure that I was fine before I got back into the game.

Add to the fact that the circumstances involved (the Nuggets getting destroyed), the fact that this is a recurrent behavior from Melo, and just the peculiarity of the event itself leads me to believe that Melo is not a saint in this case. You said that we've never played contact basketball. I guess you're right. I've been in thousands of pick-up games and several organized events in high school and college. Never, ever, not ONCE, have I ever grabbed a person's neck. I have never had my neck grabbed. I have never WITNESSED someone's neck being grabbed, except once. And that was in the middle of a rec-league brawl (quite hilarious, truth be told).

The fact that you accuse others of obsessing, huff and haw about how it's just the internet so nothing matters and you don't give a fuck, insult others, and then proceed to post -the longest rant in the thread- is almost humorous. I mean, really. When you latch on so quickly to your opinion that Polesmoking "backtracked" and use that as a jumping point for the rest of your argument, it is not conducive to your initial stance. You jumped a shaky ship for greener pastures, as you knew your first position about Vuj flopping was hard to defend.

For the record, I came into this not really disliking Melo. I see him as a kid who's got a hell of a lot of growing up to do. But this is not cool. The repetitive behaviors and the attitude need to go sooner, not later.

I mean, really. Is Vuj THAT hard to guard? :lol

I guess the strangest part of this whole thread is that historically I've found you to be a reasonable, rational poster. You're too intelligent to need to resort to base, vile insults. And so what if it's the internet? You're spending time here, you post a lot, you obviously enjoy Spurstalk. Don't try to play the Mr. Tough Guy card and say you don't give two fucks. Because if you honestly don't, you've wasted a hell of a lot of your life here. There, now I've alleviated you of the longest post in the thread. Call me names for actually constructing a decent thought on the subject.

[JamStone]

I guess the strangest part of this whole thread is that historically I've found you to be a reasonable, rational poster. You're too intelligent to need to resort to base, vile insults. And so what if it's the internet? You're spending time here, you post a lot, you obviously enjoy Spurstalk. Don't try to play the Mr. Tough Guy card and say you don't give two fucks. Because if you honestly don't, you've wasted a hell of a lot of your life here. There, now I've alleviated you of the longest post in the thread. Call me names for actually constructing a decent thought on the subject.

I don't have a problem with slinging a few insults here and there just to emphasize a point. I've done it plenty of times, with whottt, Brutalis, Shoogabear, and obviously monosylab1k. I don't take a few insult shots that serious. It's all fun and games on a messageboard. Nearly everyone on this site has slung insults. It's not a big deal. My saying it's just the internet is a direct response to PoleSmoking saying people are pointing and laughing at me. My point ... who cares, it's the internet. Ultimately, who cares what other people think about you over the internet. It doesn't mean I don't like SpursTalk. Obviously, I post quite a bit here and I enjoy it. As for trying to throw out some "tough guy" card, I don't know how you get that. Most of my insults were directed at monosylab1k which basically was a back-and-forth thing. He insults me, I insult him. Not a big deal to me. I don't know about him. But, it really isn't that serious. As for PoleSmoking, he got serious. He went to the "seriously go kill yourself" comment. He melted down. So, to me, it's funny.

I accuse monosylab1k of obsessing because he does. I don't go attacking monosylab1k without instigation. I insult monosylab1k when I respond to his stupid shit. He says stupid shit, and I respond to his stupid shit. Calling him obsessive is just another insult. He calls me obsessive, um ok. Another insult. Again, it's not that deep to me.

As for your first few paragraphs that actually talk about the Melo foul, I didn't read it all yet. If there's anything substantive about it, I'll respond. Otherwise, we'll just be re-hashing what's been said over and over for several pages already.

[JamStone]

Except they don't have to prove you wrong, considering the referee in question agrees with their assessment of the situation. And considering how you bandy on so about the "slow-mo replay", it's rather interesting that we are looking at a play that happened on a horrible video with poor quality and distant perspective.

Except they've been saying all along that they did prove me wrong. My initial point in this thread was that I disagreed with official that it was a technical or an ejection. Again, officials make wrong calls sometimes. I called it a flop. There is no proof that there wasn't a flop. You can't prove Sasha didn't flop with certainty. I can't prove with certainty that he did flop. Therefore, it's a matter of opinion and I disagreed with what the official concluded. No one proved anyone wrong with certainty. It was an opinion. That Sasha flopped is an opinion.




Yet instead of attacking the official (who had a much more advantageous view of the play, and has a much better idea of what constitutes an ejection than we do) for making an improper call, you're going after the people who are just stating that they agree with the official decision to eject a player. Your stance is basically, "well, they didn't suspend him so obviously it wasn't too bad".

No, I do disagree with the official. That's what I was saying. I didn't go after people. I responded to people who disagreed with me. And, no, you are not summarizing my stance accurately. First, I thought Sasha flopped and Carmelo did not choke or choke slam Vujacic. Second, I thought it was wrong to give him a technical (or flagrant as it probably was) and an ejection. Both monosylab1k and PoleSmoking mentioned that Carmelo deserved any suspension he got. I am just using the fact he didn't get suspended as demonstrating he didn't choke slam Sasha.



Uh. Hold on their buddy. Melo got tossed. Not after a discussion. Not after a checking of the rules. The official saw the play and immediately threw him out with a flagrant two. Now, I've seen some pretty crazy flops in my life. I don't recall the last time a flop got the other player immediately thrown out of the game. There is absolutely NO visual evidence to suggest that Melo should have stayed in the game. Throat grab. Ejection. Simple. Even you admit his hands closed around his throat. I've never really tried to grab a guys chest, so I'm pretty sure Melo knew what was going on.

As you pointed out that video is pretty bad, I don't see how you can say Melo "grabbed" his throat. Hands around the throat area? Sure. Grabbed it? You can't tell that. And, again, hands on the throat is NOT an automatic ejection.




As far as his reaction goes, well damn, maybe was surprised that the fingers of another player were curled around his throat in a game that was no longer in doubt? I got shoved really hard for blocking a player's shot one time in a pickup game. It surprised me so much because it was a clean block that I didn't even think to shove the guy back. I was just like, "... did that just happen?" By the time I realized the exact reason and circumstance, the moment of anger had long past. Vuj just looks like a guy who's a bit blitzed by what happens and is trying to walk it off. Why would he be criticized for that? Players walk off injuries all the time and are fine afterwards. If I had a guys hand on my throat, I'd want to make DAMN sure that I was fine before I got back into the game.

First, shove in the back and someone grabbing your throat completely two different things. As for the rest of your opinion, well that's what it is ... an opinion. It differs from mine. Again, no substantive proof either way.



Add to the fact that the circumstances involved (the Nuggets getting destroyed), the fact that this is a recurrent behavior from Melo, and just the peculiarity of the event itself leads me to believe that Melo is not a saint in this case. You said that we've never played contact basketball. I guess you're right. I've been in thousands of pick-up games and several organized events in high school and college. Never, ever, not ONCE, have I ever grabbed a person's neck. I have never had my neck grabbed. I have never WITNESSED someone's neck being grabbed, except once. And that was in the middle of a rec-league brawl (quite hilarious, truth be told).

Exactly. You've never seen anyone grab someone else's throat in pick up or rec league ever during play, only in a brawl. So, even though Melo got a huge suspension last year for throwing a punch, and on national television in a blowout, he's going to choke a player during a play? Come on. He wanted to impede Vujacic's movement. He didn't want to choke Sasha. And, if he was going to choke Sasha, he REALLY WOULD HAVE CHOKED Sasha. If you're going to choke someone, make it count. Kind of like making a flagrant count.



The fact that you accuse others of obsessing, huff and haw about how it's just the internet so nothing matters and you don't give a fuck, insult others, and then proceed to post -the longest rant in the thread- is almost humorous. I mean, really. When you latch on so quickly to your opinion that Polesmoking "backtracked" and use that as a jumping point for the rest of your argument, it is not conducive to your initial stance. You jumped a shaky ship for greener pastures, as you knew your first position about Vuj flopping was hard to defend.

I already mentioned why I talked about that this is only the internet. I don't care about people laughing at me behind a computer screen. It doesn't mean I won't argue my point.

And, arguing with PoleSmoking about the rule is actually right on point with my initial stance. My initial points about the Melo foul:

1. Vujacic flopped and Melo did not choke slam him.
2. Melo did not deserve a technical foul (flagrant foul) or ejection.

My argument against PoleSmoking speaks directly to the second point as he made it abundantly clear that there was no room for debate about the ejection because it was an above the shoulders foul. My whole point was that the official made a poor call in judgment. He said in like 7-8 posts over and over again that there was no discretion or room for interpretation because it was an automatic ejection based on an "above the shoulders" foul. Turns out, the rule was for "elbows." Then he comes back with a different rule for flagrants when an official "deems a foul excessive." In that rule, there is discretion. And, having that discretion, I disagreed with the official's determination that the contact was excessive based on my belief that Sasha flopped. PoleSmoking changed his argument. Later he would talk about special exceptions and provisions where he never mentioned anything about those special exceptions or provisions until after I proved what he said all along to be inaccurate. He was so pompous about me reading the NBA rulebook and he got the rule wrong. And, yes, the argument was directly tied into my initial stance.

Thanks for your opinion.

P.S. I generally call people names or throw insults in response. I don't usually call people names unless they start with the name-calling or unless they prove to be unreasonably obnoxious or stupid. Again, name-calling or throwing insults isn't that serious to me. For others it might be.

[JamStone]

Oh, and back to that "obsessive" thing, don't you think monosylab1k disguising himself by changing his screen name to dickface to attack me on the 10th page of this thread is a little obsessive? Isn't it?

[Cry Havoc]

Oh, and back to that "obsessive" thing, don't you think monosylab1k disguising himself by changing his screen name to dickface to attack me on the 10th page of this thread is a little obsessive? Isn't it?

Never said he wasn't.

But on the issue of the play, I guess I just trust an official with a clear, hi-def (ie, REAL LIFE) view of the play over what may or may not be discerned from a muddy youtube replay. It has really less to do with you and your ability to judge a play and more to do with the circumstance. I THINK it looks like Melo is choking Vuj, almost impetuously, as in, "Bitch, don't try to move around me, I'm MELO." It just seems like he's pissy at losing and wanted to lash out. He wasn't super angry, and that may be why he didn't REALLY go after a WWE type move that ends in a bench-clearing fight. But I -think- he was just fed up of trying and wanted to take it out on a lesser player (can you imagine the hoopla over this if it was Melo and Kobe or Melo and T-Mac?) so that it would largely escape the media's attention. Not that he would consciously be thinking of that, but he knows he can kind of push around smaller players without drawing the ire of Stern.

Again, this is just what I think. But I could be wrong. I defer to the person who had the clearest view.

[monosylab1k]

Oh, and back to that "obsessive" thing, don't you think monosylab1k disguising himself by changing his screen name to dickface to attack me on the 10th page of this thread is a little obsessive? Isn't it?
who knows. I'm thinking the definition of obsessive, however, is this -


I don't have a problem with slinging a few insults here and there just to emphasize a point. I've done it plenty of times, with whottt, Brutalis, Shoogabear, and obviously monosylab1k. I don't take a few insult shots that serious. It's all fun and games on a messageboard. Nearly everyone on this site has slung insults. It's not a big deal. My saying it's just the internet is a direct response to PoleSmoking saying people are pointing and laughing at me. My point ... who cares, it's the internet. Ultimately, who cares what other people think about you over the internet. It doesn't mean I don't like SpursTalk. Obviously, I post quite a bit here and I enjoy it. As for trying to throw out some "tough guy" card, I don't know how you get that. Most of my insults were directed at monosylab1k which basically was a back-and-forth thing. He insults me, I insult him. Not a big deal to me. I don't know about him. But, it really isn't that serious. As for PoleSmoking, he got serious. He went to the "seriously go kill yourself" comment. He melted down. So, to me, it's funny.

I accuse monosylab1k of obsessing because he does. I don't go attacking monosylab1k without instigation. I insult monosylab1k when I respond to his stupid shit. He says stupid shit, and I respond to his stupid shit. Calling him obsessive is just another insult. He calls me obsessive, um ok. Another insult. Again, it's not that deep to me.

As for your first few paragraphs that actually talk about the Melo foul, I didn't read it all yet. If there's anything substantive about it, I'll respond. Otherwise, we'll just be re-hashing what's been said over and over for several pages already.

Except they've been saying all along that they did prove me wrong. My initial point in this thread was that I disagreed with official that it was a technical or an ejection. Again, officials make wrong calls sometimes. I called it a flop. There is no proof that there wasn't a flop. You can't prove Sasha didn't flop with certainty. I can't prove with certainty that he did flop. Therefore, it's a matter of opinion and I disagreed with what the official concluded. No one proved anyone wrong with certainty. It was an opinion. That Sasha flopped is an opinion.





No, I do disagree with the official. That's what I was saying. I didn't go after people. I responded to people who disagreed with me. And, no, you are not summarizing my stance accurately. First, I thought Sasha flopped and Carmelo did not choke or choke slam Vujacic. Second, I thought it was wrong to give him a technical (or flagrant as it probably was) and an ejection. Both monosylab1k and PoleSmoking mentioned that Carmelo deserved any suspension he got. I am just using the fact he didn't get suspended as demonstrating he didn't choke slam Sasha.




As you pointed out that video is pretty bad, I don't see how you can say Melo "grabbed" his throat. Hands around the throat area? Sure. Grabbed it? You can't tell that. And, again, hands on the throat is NOT an automatic ejection.





First, shove in the back and someone grabbing your throat completely two different things. As for the rest of your opinion, well that's what it is ... an opinion. It differs from mine. Again, no substantive proof either way.




Exactly. You've never seen anyone grab someone else's throat in pick up or rec league ever during play, only in a brawl. So, even though Melo got a huge suspension last year for throwing a punch, and on national television in a blowout, he's going to choke a player during a play? Come on. He wanted to impede Vujacic's movement. He didn't want to choke Sasha. And, if he was going to choke Sasha, he REALLY WOULD HAVE CHOKED Sasha. If you're going to choke someone, make it count. Kind of like making a flagrant count.




I already mentioned why I talked about that this is only the internet. I don't care about people laughing at me behind a computer screen. It doesn't mean I won't argue my point.

And, arguing with PoleSmoking about the rule is actually right on point with my initial stance. My initial points about the Melo foul:

1. Vujacic flopped and Melo did not choke slam him.
2. Melo did not deserve a technical foul (flagrant foul) or ejection.

My argument against PoleSmoking speaks directly to the second point as he made it abundantly clear that there was no room for debate about the ejection because it was an above the shoulders foul. My whole point was that the official made a poor call in judgment. He said in like 7-8 posts over and over again that there was no discretion or room for interpretation because it was an automatic ejection based on an "above the shoulders" foul. Turns out, the rule was for "elbows." Then he comes back with a different rule for flagrants when an official "deems a foul excessive." In that rule, there is discretion. And, having that discretion, I disagreed with the official's determination that the contact was excessive based on my belief that Sasha flopped. PoleSmoking changed his argument. Later he would talk about special exceptions and provisions where he never mentioned anything about those special exceptions or provisions until after I proved what he said all along to be inaccurate. He was so pompous about me reading the NBA rulebook and he got the rule wrong. And, yes, the argument was directly tied into my initial stance.

Thanks for your opinion.

P.S. I generally call people names or throw insults in response. I don't usually call people names unless they start with the name-calling or unless they prove to be unreasonably obnoxious or stupid. Again, name-calling or throwing insults isn't that serious to me. For others it might be.

which probably rivals my Crocodile Nowitzki article in length. the difference being that nobody gives enough of a shit to read all of this.

[JamStone]

Only one person has to read it. Cry Havoc. If no one else does, that's fine. It was responding to him.

[monosylab1k]

then why not just PM it to him? if you really don't give a shit about everyone else seeing your obsessive mentioning of my name along with the same tired BS excuse for Carmelo.

[JamStone]

LMAO! Because he made a post at me in this thread. I responded to that post in this thread. You are a like a little kid not getting your way, monsylab1k. If you don't care, stop reading, stop responding ... just stop.

Hilarity. PoleSmoking has an internet nervous breakdown and you change screen names to attack me "anonymously." And, you just can't help but keep responding. LOL! Good comedy.

[monosylab1k]

LMAO! Because he made a post at me in this thread. I responded to that post in this thread. You are a like a little kid not getting your way, monsylab1k. If you don't care, stop reading, stop responding ... just stop.

Hilarity. PoleSmoking has an internet nervous breakdown and you change screen names to attack me "anonymously." Good comedy.
It's pretty well documented that dickface is a troll I use. I'd figure you'd have figured this out what with all the research you do about me.

And I'm not the one talking about how I don't give a fuck and then immediately make some 1000 word post defending my entire internet existence.

Seeing how you care desperately about how much recognition you get on this site, you should be thanking me for having any interchange at all with you. Your posts in this thread were about as nondescript and anonymous as they get until I graced you with my presence and started talking shit. Now you've got all sorts of people going at you. So, your welcome. Unfortunately I've given myself a month long banning for the Patriots sucking so bad last night, and I'm going to get back to that. Good luck finding anybody that gives a fuck what you say in the meantime.

[JamStone]

Had no idea you were dickface but you made it completely transparent with your posts. Why change screen names to argue with me anyway? You're a fucking loser.

My saying I don't care what other people think of me over the internet does not prevent or preclude me from arguing a point. Do you have any logic left? Are you about to go into a PoleSmoking meltdown? Do you need to use another screen name to make it seem more people are attacking me? Do you need that hug now?

[JamStone]

Seeing how you care desperately about how much recognition you get on this site, you should be thanking me for having any interchange at all with you. Your posts in this thread were about as nondescript and anonymous as they get until I graced you with my presence and started talking shit. Now you've got all sorts of people going at you. So, your welcome. Unfortunately I've given myself a month long banning for the Patriots sucking so bad last night, and I'm going to get back to that. Good luck finding anybody that gives a fuck what you say in the meantime.

All sorts of people going at me? You and PoleSmoking, oh and YOU again?

You're a self admitting troll who loves to argue with people to stroke an internet ego. Apparently you gave a fuck about what I said because you won't stop fucking responding.

At the very least, you are entertaining, in a look at that little kid in the shopping mall throwing a tantrum at his mother sort of way.

Have fun with the rest of your posting pretending you're internet cool and making fun of people.

[Cry Havoc]

Just curious, Jam and Mono, since you two have been measuring for about 10 pages in full now, who's internet dick is actually longer? Maybe that's why you're both so preoccupied with this Melo-choke incident. One is hoping it's true because choking excites him, the other doesn't want it to be true because he's scared it does. :lmao

[PoleSmoking]

Call it a nervous breakdown a few more times, and maybe it will make it true. After all, this IS the magical, make-believe world of the internet where anything that JamStone wants is instantly true. Back in reality, I call it "getting fed up with a stubborn idiot and heaping some well-deserved scorn on said idiot." No go ahead and fire of another 1000 line rambling response. I'll be waiting anxiously to NOT bother reading it or responding to you on this thread again.

[JamStone]

How about I just quote you again:


Go fuck yourself. Seriously. I'm so done with you. I've lost patience with you. You're a total fucking basket-case. That's all there is to it. You're beyond hope and reason and logic. Just go kill yourself or something.

I'm sure your rational side tried its damnedest not to let you respond once again since you were "so done with" me. Still lingering effects from your nervous breakdown, I suppose. I suggest a therapist. You can get past your meltdown. I'm almost sure of it.

[PoleSmoking]

Here's the Cliff's Notes version of this (now) 11 page thread, for those who didn't have the misfortune of participating themselves:

EVERYONE: "Melo is a punk, choked Vujacic, and got ejected."

JamStone: "In my opinion, Melo didn't mean it and didn't commit a flagrant."

EVERYONE: "Any reason or evidence?"

JamStone: "Evidence? Yes. My solitary opinion, because I know what's going on inside Melo's head."

EVERYONE: "You're wrong"

JamStone: "No, I'm right. And my proof is it's my opinion."

EVERYONE: "You're an idiot."

JamStone: "No, I'm right. I proved you all wrong with my opinion."

EVERYONE: "Ugh ... "

[repeat for another 10 pages]

[JamStone]

I'm so done with you. I've lost patience with you.

:lmao


Seek help with your internet rage.

[PoleSmoking]

Here you go dude, I'll make it true for you:

Here I am. I'm angry. I have serious internet rage! I'm raging! Raging with anger! Furiously raging! Anger! anger! rage! rage! rage!

HATE! Foaming at the mouth! Shaking with fury and internet rage! Meltdown! Nervous break-down! But mostly INTERNET RAGE!

Now go and throw your stuffed animals at the wall and pout some more.

[JamStone]

Sooner or later, truth comes out. Now if only you would admit you were blatantly wrong about the "above the shoulders" foul as it applied to Melo and that you had to change your argument because you of that.

[JamStone]

It's fun to feed the trolls when the trolls get so angry over an internet discussion that they have a nervous breakdown over the net.

I say feed the trolls when it's funny.

[PoleSmoking]

It's fun to feed the trolls when the trolls get so angry over an internet discussion that they have a nervous breakdown over the net.

I say feed the trolls when it's funny.

You're a total dumb-ass. See how Mono & Cry Havoc were right about how you desperately seize onto something irrelevant when you know your original position is impossible to defend anymore? Perfect illustration. All you're posting now is a bunch of irrelevant bullshit about how you think I had a nervous breakdown. I mean, how childish can you be? Since you like childhood analogies: you're like that little kid who tries to tease other kids until they get mad, and then tease them because they're mad. Genius. I mean, what would be your point anyway, so what if I did get mad at you? It's not like you didn't give me a reason. Do you think that somehow supports your argument that Melo shouldn't have been ejected? Do you think it proves anything other than that annoying pricks annoy people? Well, I'm not mad and never actually was; but I have lost all patience and respect for you.

Oh, and by the way. I think it's especially amusing that you referred to me as a troll. Do you know what the definition of a troll is? It's someone who posts contrary or argumentative comments to bait others into arguments. Since you are the only one with Melo's back, and since now your gloating because you think you got a rise out of me ... well, that makes YOU the troll.

[dickface]

you're like that little kid who tries to tease other kids until they get mad, and then tease them because they're mad.
it's more like the kid who gets teased and lashes out with "go fuck yourself, then weeman, then tom brady" and then gets teased for being mad. at that point he's so pissed about getting teased that he'll desperately try to do the same thing to somebody else, with far less impressive results. At that point all the kids just call him a douche and he goes off and writes an essay telling people that he doesn't care what they think although nearly everything he just did says otherwise.

[JamStone]

You're a total dumb-ass. See how Mono & Cry Havoc were right about how you desperately seize onto something irrelevant when you know your original position is impossible to defend anymore? Perfect illustration. All you're posting now is a bunch of irrelevant bullshit about how you think I had a nervous breakdown. I mean, how childish can you be? Since you like childhood analogies: you're like that little kid who tries to tease other kids until they get mad, and then tease them because they're mad. Genius. I mean, what would be your point anyway, so what if I did get mad at you? It's not like you didn't give me a reason. Do you think that somehow supports your argument that Melo shouldn't have been ejected? Do you think it proves anything other than that annoying pricks annoy people? Well, I'm not mad and never actually was; but I have lost all patience and respect for you.

How childish can I be? Not as childish as telling someone to go kill themselves over an internet argument. My point since you did get mad at me and had a nervous breakdown is that I found it funny because it's only the internet. What was your point in saying people are laughing at me over the internet? Similar shit. I'm laughing at your anger. That's my point. No, laughing at your anger didn't support my argument that Melo shouldn't have been ejected. And, you applying the wrong rule didn't help your argument that Melo's ejection was automatic. You want to go through another run-around?

My point since you had your meltdown is that I'm laughing at you for having that meltdown.

[JamStone]

it's more like the kid who gets teased and lashes out with "go fuck yourself, then weeman, then tom brady" and then gets teased for being mad. at that point he's so pissed about getting teased that he'll desperately try to do the same thing to somebody else, with far less impressive results. At that point all the kids just call him a douche and he goes off and writes an essay telling people that he doesn't care what they think although nearly everything he just did says otherwise.

LMAO!

There's a reason why I said go fuck yourself, then Weeman, then Tom Brady. You've specifically stated you wanted to fuck Weeman and you've stated you would eyefuck Tom Brady as well. It's funny. It wasn't out of anger.

You two are very amusing.

PoleSmoking and monsylab1k/dickface (henceforth known as "everybody") want to keep saying they're done with me and they've said their piece and this and that AND THEN KEEP RESPONDING.

Man, "everybody" needs to chill the fuck out and leave it alone.

"Everybody" needs a hug.

[dickface]

yeah but this is just the internet you're supposed to not care.

[JamStone]

I can still laugh at you too though, right?

[dickface]

yeah but it's just the internet. you care so little that laughing ought to be beneath you.

[JamStone]

nah, i still like laughing at things that I find funny and amusing, dickface.

[dickface]

You do get that this is just the internet, don't you? And, you can believe what you want to believe. There are two people that feel strongly against my opinion, and that's a person that named himself/herself PoleSmoking and a guy that admits he wants to fuck a male midget. Laughing has long started before anyone reads what is posted. And, no one cares anyway. It's the fucking internet. Who is pointing at whom? What are they pointing at? It's the internet. You can't see me. You know this is just the internet, don't you?

You want to keep telling me I'm wrong. That's on you. What's the point? Who cares? Yet you keep trying to tell me you're right without responding to my part of the argument that completely kills your point. You want to keep saying you're right yet you haven't answered my examples of fouls above the shoulder that are not automatic ejections. First it was an automatic ejection because it was above the shoulders foul. But, then there are different sets of rules for different things and the officials deemed Melo's foul excessive. You changed your argument, you ass.

Everyone thinks they're right on the internet. I'm laughing at you for thinking it matters to me if anyone is laughing at me over the internet. You know this is just the internet, right? You do, don't you?


I don't have a problem with slinging a few insults here and there just to emphasize a point. I've done it plenty of times, with whottt, Brutalis, Shoogabear, and obviously monosylab1k. I don't take a few insult shots that serious. It's all fun and games on a messageboard. Nearly everyone on this site has slung insults. It's not a big deal. My saying it's just the internet is a direct response to PoleSmoking saying people are pointing and laughing at me. My point ... who cares, it's the internet. Ultimately, who cares what other people think about you over the internet. It doesn't mean I don't like SpursTalk. Obviously, I post quite a bit here and I enjoy it. As for trying to throw out some "tough guy" card, I don't know how you get that. Most of my insults were directed at monosylab1k which basically was a back-and-forth thing. He insults me, I insult him. Not a big deal to me. I don't know about him. But, it really isn't that serious. As for PoleSmoking, he got serious. He went to the "seriously go kill yourself" comment. He melted down. So, to me, it's funny.

I accuse monosylab1k of obsessing because he does. I don't go attacking monosylab1k without instigation. I insult monosylab1k when I respond to his stupid shit. He says stupid shit, and I respond to his stupid shit. Calling him obsessive is just another insult. He calls me obsessive, um ok. Another insult. Again, it's not that deep to me.

As for your first few paragraphs that actually talk about the Melo foul, I didn't read it all yet. If there's anything substantive about it, I'll respond. Otherwise, we'll just be re-hashing what's been said over and over for several pages already.


Except they've been saying all along that they did prove me wrong. My initial point in this thread was that I disagreed with official that it was a technical or an ejection. Again, officials make wrong calls sometimes. I called it a flop. There is no proof that there wasn't a flop. You can't prove Sasha didn't flop with certainty. I can't prove with certainty that he did flop. Therefore, it's a matter of opinion and I disagreed with what the official concluded. No one proved anyone wrong with certainty. It was an opinion. That Sasha flopped is an opinion.





No, I do disagree with the official. That's what I was saying. I didn't go after people. I responded to people who disagreed with me. And, no, you are not summarizing my stance accurately. First, I thought Sasha flopped and Carmelo did not choke or choke slam Vujacic. Second, I thought it was wrong to give him a technical (or flagrant as it probably was) and an ejection. Both monosylab1k and PoleSmoking mentioned that Carmelo deserved any suspension he got. I am just using the fact he didn't get suspended as demonstrating he didn't choke slam Sasha.




As you pointed out that video is pretty bad, I don't see how you can say Melo "grabbed" his throat. Hands around the throat area? Sure. Grabbed it? You can't tell that. And, again, hands on the throat is NOT an automatic ejection.





First, shove in the back and someone grabbing your throat completely two different things. As for the rest of your opinion, well that's what it is ... an opinion. It differs from mine. Again, no substantive proof either way.




Exactly. You've never seen anyone grab someone else's throat in pick up or rec league ever during play, only in a brawl. So, even though Melo got a huge suspension last year for throwing a punch, and on national television in a blowout, he's going to choke a player during a play? Come on. He wanted to impede Vujacic's movement. He didn't want to choke Sasha. And, if he was going to choke Sasha, he REALLY WOULD HAVE CHOKED Sasha. If you're going to choke someone, make it count. Kind of like making a flagrant count.




I already mentioned why I talked about that this is only the internet. I don't care about people laughing at me behind a computer screen. It doesn't mean I won't argue my point.

And, arguing with PoleSmoking about the rule is actually right on point with my initial stance. My initial points about the Melo foul:

1. Vujacic flopped and Melo did not choke slam him.
2. Melo did not deserve a technical foul (flagrant foul) or ejection.

My argument against PoleSmoking speaks directly to the second point as he made it abundantly clear that there was no room for debate about the ejection because it was an above the shoulders foul. My whole point was that the official made a poor call in judgment. He said in like 7-8 posts over and over again that there was no discretion or room for interpretation because it was an automatic ejection based on an "above the shoulders" foul. Turns out, the rule was for "elbows." Then he comes back with a different rule for flagrants when an official "deems a foul excessive." In that rule, there is discretion. And, having that discretion, I disagreed with the official's determination that the contact was excessive based on my belief that Sasha flopped. PoleSmoking changed his argument. Later he would talk about special exceptions and provisions where he never mentioned anything about those special exceptions or provisions until after I proved what he said all along to be inaccurate. He was so pompous about me reading the NBA rulebook and he got the rule wrong. And, yes, the argument was directly tied into my initial stance.

Thanks for your opinion.

P.S. I generally call people names or throw insults in response. I don't usually call people names unless they start with the name-calling or unless they prove to be unreasonably obnoxious or stupid. Again, name-calling or throwing insults isn't that serious to me. For others it might be.

this is seriously a crowning acheivement. great "i don't give a fuck what goes on here, but here's a list of excuses as to why it may appear like i care incredibly about my internet street cred" posts. you really oughta consider piecing it all together and submitting it to the New Yorker. with all the pretentious douchebaggery presented, they'd be sure to publish it.

now go ahead and respond to this like a guy that gives a fuck.

[JamStone]

LMAOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

How fucking obsessive are you? Damn!

I don't care what people over the internet think about me does not = I cannot respond to someone who makes a post at me.

Are you this fucking retarded? LOL! Have you said your piece yet? Do you need that hug yet? Do you really miss SpursDynasty this much? Does your therapist think this internet forum obsession is healthy for your gay midget confusion?

Stop already. You're getting a little "PoleSmoking" serious ...

Breathe deeply.

Breathe.

LMAO!!!!!

[dickface]

Thanks for showing how much you care what I & everyone else might think by replying again.

[JamStone]

When you've gone crazy, accuse the person you are arguing with what he accuses you of.

Good one, obsessive one.

I expect a quick response this time now that you've definitely said your piece.

[dickface]

excellent reply sir. I see very clearly how much you care despite your claims of not giving a fuck because "it's just the internet". I just assumed that someone who REALLY didn't give a fuck like he claims would just find something else to do with his time, but you've really broke the mold here.

[JamStone]

For the slightly less mentally challenged, not caring what people over the internet think of you does not mean you cannot reply to posts directed at you. Nor does not caring what people think of you over the internet prevent you from laughing at people over the internet having a nervous breakdown or getting so obsessive that they cannot stop arguing even after they said they were done.

Good lesson for the day, kids. Next week, we'll tackle the letter "Q."

You'll learn sooner or later, silly little dickface.

[dickface]

continue defending your internet badass persona while claiming you don't give a fuck. go ahead and post a pic of you in a black leather jacket, sitting on a Harley while lighting up a Marlboro to show just what a cool internet badass you are while not giving a fuck. And then reply yet again.

[JamStone]

:lmao

I haven't said "I'm done with this" multiple times only to continue arguing. I haven't changed screen names to try to sneak attack you in an argument. I'm not taking any of this seriously.

I AM LAUGHING AT YOU!

Silly little dickface.

[dickface]

and I haven't gone out of my way three different times to make longwinded posts that say "it's just the internet I don't care" while continuing to post & defend myself.

I AM LAUGHING AT YOU! :lmao

now give me another 2000 word essay on why you don't care that I'm laughing at you while giving excuses to cover over every piece of evidence that shows quite strongly that you do.

I do appreciate the reply. It shows how much you care.

[JamStone]

You have a great tactic as I mentioned before of this "I'm rubber, you're glue" method of arguing.

No, you are!

No, you are!

You quote my posts that aren't even directed at you, silly little dickface.

How many times do I have to try to teach you that me not caring what people think of me over the internet doesn't mean I can't respond to people who write posts at me?

Poor little dickface. Mommy should have made you wear a football helmet when you were a kid.

Now, go back to coloring, silly little dickface.

[dickface]

if you don't really care then why bother replying? especially if you look at me in such a condescending manner.

thanks for replying. i like knowing that you care this much.

[JamStone]

Stop drinking retarded soup. How many times do I have to say this. Me not caring what you think of me does not mean I cannot reply. I bother to reply because it's funny to read what you will post next. I bother to reply because I can and I didn't say I was done with this or I've said my piece or I'm over it.

Why do you bother to reply?

Now behave, silly little dickface. I won't be at my computer for a few hours.

Don't make a mess now, silly little dickface.

Be a good little dickface. Maybe I'll bring you back a lollipop or something.

[dickface]

why do I bother? I like seeing you reply. I like seeing that you care so much about this that you'll continue replying for however long I goad you. i like your tired, lame schtick. and i especially love gifs featuring bearded men banging on computers. i'm not the one who felt the need to defend myself by writing a dissertation on how "it's just the internet and i don't give a fuck".

thanks in advance for your upcoming reply. hurry back, i know you can't wait.

[PoleSmoking]

:lmao

I haven't said "I'm done with this" multiple times only to continue arguing. I haven't changed screen names to try to sneak attack you in an argument. I'm not taking any of this seriously.

I AM LAUGHING AT YOU!

Silly little dickface.

I haven't been arguing with you about the Melo incident since I said I was done with you, now have I? I've responded to your irrelevant gloating because I'm not gonna let you get away with a red herring distractions. You won't shut up about how you think I had a meltdown just because I used the words "fuck" and "shit" and recommended that you put us all out of your misery by jumping off a building.

[PoleSmoking]

:lmao

I haven't said "I'm done with this" multiple times only to continue arguing. I haven't changed screen names to try to sneak attack you in an argument. I'm not taking any of this seriously.

I AM LAUGHING AT YOU!

Silly little dickface.

BTW, didn't you post that you took what I said about jumping off a building seriously? So you are taking some of this seriously? Even though you said you don't? Even though you admitted that you dish it out as much as anyone else, and don't get your feelings hurt by anything on the internet? I could swear you babbled on and on about that to Cry Havoc in a 1000 line post.

[SpurForLife]

I am really having a hard time figuring out with I should keep LMAO or make a suggestion to nuke the entire thread. :dizzy

[stretch]

Stop drinking retarded soup.

:wtf

retarded soup?

wow...

[JamStone]

I haven't been arguing with you about the Melo incident since I said I was done with you, now have I? I've responded to your irrelevant gloating because I'm not gonna let you get away with a red herring distractions. You won't shut up about how you think I had a meltdown just because I used the words "fuck" and "shit" and recommended that you put us all out of your misery by jumping off a building.

Red herring distractions? You made post after post after post after post after post how it was an automatic ejection based on a rule that didn't apply.

You had a meltdown because you got so angry that you you admitted you were fed up with me and told me to go kill myself. I don't care if you use the words "fuck" or "shit." But, why did you? Read your sig.




BTW, didn't you post that you took what I said about jumping off a building seriously? So you are taking some of this seriously? Even though you said you don't? Even though you admitted that you dish it out as much as anyone else, and don't get your feelings hurt by anything on the internet? I could swear you babbled on and on about that to Cry Havoc in a 1000 line post.

No, I didn't post that. I said you took this shit too serious to the point of telling me to go kill myself. Not taking any of this seriously. Yes, I throw insults. No, my feelings aren't getting hurt over shit on the internet. And, you did see me respond to Cry Havoc. He wrote a long post with a lot of points. I responded to that long post addressing his points. So, what's your point?

You didn't say you were done with the Melo discussion. You said you were done with me.

You're not as amusing as monosylab1k/dickface, but you're still cute in that look at that dog chasing fetching the ball sort of way.

[JamStone]

I am really having a hard time figuring out with I should keep LMAO or make a suggestion to nuke the entire thread. :dizzy


I vote keep laughing. Some very funny stuff in here.

[JamStone]

why do I bother? I like seeing you reply. I like seeing that you care so much about this that you'll continue replying for however long I goad you. i like your tired, lame schtick. and i especially love gifs featuring bearded men banging on computers. i'm not the one who felt the need to defend myself by writing a dissertation on how "it's just the internet and i don't give a fuck".

thanks in advance for your upcoming reply. hurry back, i know you can't wait.

Got that lollipop for you, silly little dickface. Now, show me your coloring project, and you can stay up and watch some TV too.

[dickface]

'preciate the reply! keep your obssession and caring alive!

[JamStone]

:lmao

"No you are!"

"No you are!"

[dickface]

lol, reply

[JamStone]

quick switch screen names and attack me again pretending you're someone new, mono!

[dickface]

lol, obsessed

[PoleSmoking]

And now it's all insults and nothing but insults from you. Nothing but name-calling and baiting. Sad. BTW, my signature is intended to be ironic. Just thought I'd help you out with that head-scratcher.

[PoleSmoking]

'preciate the reply! keep your obssession and caring alive!

Yeah, it sounds like a meltdown to me. :lol at JamStone's nervous breakdown. Now I gonna spend the next 5 pages talking about it.

[Medvedenko]

Melo VS Sasha round 2.....tonight.....

[JamStone]

:lmao @ silly little dickface

Hey I got a great idea. How about when someone makes fun of you for continuing to reply after you said you're done with it, you just make fun of them for the same thing. And, when they call you obsessed, call them obsessed too. And, when your vagina is till in extreme pain that he makes fun of you in his sig, make fun of him in your sig too.

Can you do that for us, dickface/monosylab1k? Can you? Good boy, silly little dickface.

[PoleSmoking]

Melo VS Sasha round 2.....tonight.....

Fantastic! Now this thread will persist for another 30 pages for sure, after Melo tries to put a shiv into Jordan Farmar's kidneys.

[Cry Havoc]

Melo VS Sasha round 2.....tonight.....

Now boys, if Melo tries to hurt someone tonight, I expect you both to be calling out each other's mothers and younger sisters. Existent or not, it's just something you've gotta do. I WANT SOMETHING EMBARRASSING! SOMETHING SEXUAL! LITTLE BOYS! MIDGETS! COWS! I DON'T GIVE A GOD DAMN!

[dickface]

Now boys, if Melo tries to hurt someone tonight, I expect you both to be calling out each other's mothers and younger sisters. Existent or not, it's just something you've gotta do. I WANT SOMETHING EMBARRASSING! SOMETHING SEXUAL! LITTLE BOYS! MIDGETS! COWS! I DON'T GIVE A GOD DAMN!
weak sauce. stick to ear bud reviews.

[PoleSmoking]

But Havoc, Melo never actually hurts anybody. He's too much of a punk bitch to ever actually throw a real punch at a man; instead he has to pick on smaller scrub players, like Vujacic and Mardy Collins. I'm afraid you won't get the throw-down you're hoping for.

[PoleSmoking]

If JamStone posts another response on this thread, it's a meltdown. And it's true because I say so, just like JamStone does it.

[dickface]

I don't even give a fuck cuz this is just the internet! Laugh at me cuz I don't care! I'll just write a long tirade about how it's just the internet before repeating non-stop the fact that I am now "laughing" at you although it's just the internet and I don't care so I'm not sure why I care that you know I'm "laughing at you". It's completely inconsistent but I don't care because I have bearded man gifs! I am so into my own internet street cred that I will continue posting the same tired things constantly. I am obsessed with you, dickface/monosylab1k!
http://cdn.last.fm/coverart/300x300/2409549.jpg

[Cry Havoc]

weak sauce. stick to ear bud reviews.

Uh oh. I'm faced with the ever-present threat of yet another Mono-response. Mmm, puns.

[dickface]

Uh oh. I'm faced with the ever-present threat of yet another Mono-response. Mmm, puns.
you're the one that stuck your nose into this with your douchey comments. if you didn't want some shit thrown at you then you should have stayed out of it.

[Cry Havoc]

you're the one that stuck your nose into this with your douchey comments. if you didn't want some shit thrown at you then you should have stayed out of it.

:lol

You're so cute.

[JamStone]

If JamStone posts another response on this thread, it's a meltdown. And it's true because I say so, just like JamStone does it.

Brilliant!

Let's throw a meltdown party!


:elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

[TheNextGen]

in Conclusion:

Carmelo is a thug and should be suspended for his vicious throat SLAM.

[PoleSmoking]

Brilliant!

Let's throw a meltdown party!


:elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

Great lame, cop-out, bullshit, coward/dickless response, dude. Keep 'em coming. But I declare your last response a nervous breakdown ... just because I feel like it. You know, just the same way you try to alter reality to suit your purposes.

Here's a little gift for you: why don't you go jump off a tall building ... twice!

Now please entertain all of us for another 12 pages of this thread about how I lost it and had a meltdown because I suggested you go kill yourself. Please. I can't wait. I've been sitting around masturbating thinking about how I could get you to spend 5 pages on SpursTalk talking about how I had a meltdown from your jackass comments.

And no ... I won't let it rest. You're a total butt-sponge for introducing your ad hominem distractions and red herring arguments to obscure the fact that you're a total fucking idiot who has been totally owned by every other poster on this thread. Because you decided to endorse a totally insane contrarian position just for the sake of trolling and provoking argument. Sad. Pathetic. Stupid. Yes, you are all of those things and much, much more JamStone.

[JamStone]

:lmao

wow you really need help. smoke a pole and maybe you'll chill the fuck out. you've gone off the deep end. just wow.

[PoleSmoking]

:lmao

wow you really need help. smoke a pole and maybe you'll chill the fuck out. you've gone off the deep end. just wow.

Uh huh. "just wow"right? Ok. Nice meltdown. Nice nervous breakdown. I'm laughing at you for having such an embarassing meltdown. You must be totally insane, with the way you freaked-out by responding to me. You're crazy. I can't believe how insane your meltdown was. It must be a total meltdown because I say so. Just like you, dumbass.

Nevermind that I'm just saying shit about you without any real basis. That doesn't matter. All that is important is that I call you out and make some bullshit up about you. That's how you think it works, right?

[dickface]

great reply JamStone! I love how much you care!