Ohio State vs. ?

[ShoogarBear]

Georgia? A two-loss team that couldn't even make it to the conference championship game?

Kansas? So they're rewarded for losing to Missouri and thus avoiding a loss to Oklahoma?

Virginia Tech? Probably makes the most sense.

LSU?


Bleah.

[Horry For 3!]

Yeah, this year has been pretty bad.

[ShoogarBear]

Oh, yeah. LSU beat Va. Tech.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Ohio State wont even win. Upset season will conclude with them losing in the National Title game once again. They dont even deserve to be there due to not having to play a conference championship game and having so much time off.

[Kermit]

LSU should make it if Missou loses, however voters have been dumb enough to vote in a team that didn't win its conference (Nebraska 2002).

[Flo-Rida]

Ohio State wont even win. Upset season will conclude with them losing in the National Title game once again. They dont even deserve to be there due to not having to play a conference championship game and having so much time off.
They will get their asses kicked again

[Kermit]

"due to not having to play a conference championship game"

Not their fault.

"having so much time off"

What does that have to do with anything?

[jochhejaam]

Ohio State wont even win. Upset season will conclude with them losing in the National Title game once again. They dont even deserve to be there due to not having to play a conference championship game and having so much time off.
We won the conference championship game against Michigan the last game of the season.
Besides that, an extra game to determine a conference champion isn't a prequisite for playing in the Big Game.

Quit whining (or don't if you enjoy it).

[Thunder Dan]

I hope Georgia, they are a good team and have cool uniforms. When you can't figure out who is deserving on paper the final tiebreaker is uniforms.

[ShoogarBear]

If they aren't going to have a playoff, it should be a prerequisite that you win your conference to get to the championship game.

[kingsfan]

It should be Georgia, we're 1 of the hottest teams right now and at #4 but they were saying that with a LSU win they would jump ahead of us :depressed
I would love to whip some Ohio State butt and win the ntl. championship. Thanks Pitt and Okla. :clap

[ShoogarBear]

Georgia: #1 in the Nation, #3 in the SEC?

[Thunder Dan]

3 Championship Games in 6 Years!

http://www.sociology.osu.edu/UndergradProgram/Karyl/tressel.jpg

[jochhejaam]

It should be Georgia, we're 1 of the hottest teams right now and at #4 but they were saying that with a LSU win they would jump ahead of us :depressed

LSU's not even going to hop over VT, let alone Georgia.

[Extra Stout]

Competitive integrity doesn't matter. It's about exploiting young men for profit, and about seeing how far they can string along the fans and insult their intelligence before they balk.

The question to ask is not "who is most deserving?" The correct question is: "who makes the BCS conferences the most money?"

Since the game is in New Orleans, if LSU is in the final, that probably makes the most money. So pick LSU.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

We won the conference championship game against Michigan the last game of the season.
Besides that, an extra game to determine a conference champion isn't a prequisite for playing in the Big Game.

Quit whining (or don't if you enjoy it).


Eh it will even out when Ohio State loses again in the BCS title game. That is the way this season has gone for college football. It will conclude with yet another upset.

[Extra Stout]

LSU's not even going to hop over VT, let alone Georgia.
Since LSU blew out VT early in the year, it's not unlikely that they jump over VT.

The BCS folks are already working on their talking points to convince voters to vote LSU #2.

[ShoogarBear]

Competitive integrity doesn't matter. It's about exploiting young men for profit, and about seeing how far they can string along the fans and insult their intelligence before they balk.

The question to ask is not "who is most deserving?" The correct question is: "who makes the BCS conferences the most money?"

Since the game is in New Orleans, if LSU is in the final, that probably makes the most money. So pick LSU.That actually makes as much sense as anything else.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

3 Championship Games in 6 Years!

http://www.sociology.osu.edu/UndergradProgram/Karyl/tressel.jpg


The ONLY reason why I can stomach Ohio State winning it all is that coach is my A.T.O brother. I respect Taus across America! :clap :clap :clap

[kingsfan]

Georgia: #1 in the Nation, #3 in the SEC?Works for me! The way this whole season has gone, anything could happen.

[ShoogarBear]

Shit. If it was up to me, I'd put Hawaii in it.

[kingsfan]

LSU's not even going to hop over VT, let alone Georgia.They probably will. Even though UGA could be #2 (and should be) they were saying LSU are SEC champs so they'd have to pick them which sucks.

[Extra Stout]

Shit. If it was up to me, I'd put Hawaii in it.
Hawaii is not in a BCS conference. Choosing them would require greedy old white men to share their lucre --- not gonna happen.

[jochhejaam]

Since LSU blew out VT early in the year, it's not unlikely that they jump over VT.

The BCS folks are already working on their talking points to convince voters to vote LSU #2.
That loss has already been taken into consideration, and of the last rankings VT was ahead of LSU (shouldn't have lost to Kentucky and Arkansas). VT just beat the 11th ranked team in the Country while LSU beat the 14th ranked team. Not fertile ground for a jump.

[ShoogarBear]

Shit. If it was up to me, I'd put Hawaii in it.Oops.

[FromWayDowntown]

Oops.

0-14 and Brennan down (and perhaps out).

[Extra Stout]

That loss has already been taken into consideration, and of the last rankings VT was ahead of LSU (shouldn't have lost to Kentucky and Arkansas). VT just beat the 11th ranked team in the Country while LSU beat the 14th ranked team. Not fertile ground for a jump.
This sounds like grounds for a sig bet. I say LSU jumps VT in the next poll.

[jochhejaam]

This sounds like grounds for a sig bet. I say LSU jumps VT in the next poll.
Nothing like waiting 'til the last minute to make a sig bet, eh?
No way there's enough time between now and tomorrow, when the final BCS poll comes out, to finalize the language for a sig bet.

Lucky for you.

(There'll be no jump)

[Extra Stout]

Nothing like waiting 'til the last minute to make a sig bet, eh?
No way there's enough time between now and tomorrow, when the final BCS poll comes out, to finalize the language for a sig bet.

Lucky for you.
:lmao What, do you have to run it by your legal department first?

[jochhejaam]

:lmao What, do you have to run it by your legal department first?
Well, the proof reading, etc., not to mention the fact that I just took an Acetaminophen PM (yawn). :lol

[Amarelooms]

Well, the proof reading, etc., not to mention the fact that I just took an Acetaminophen PM (yawn). :lol

Dont start crying when LSU kills OSU :elephant

[thispego]

the bcs should go by the jocchcheejajajaam rankings

[Oscar DeLa]

I don't know what it is, but Ohio State is going to get their stupid asses handed to them yet again and both Ohio State and Oklahoma are going to get burnt bukkake style in their bowl games again.

[kingsfan]

What time does it come out? 6pm?
On Sportscenter they're sayig it should be LSU, that makes me feel better, ESPN are idiots.
Watch this be the 1 time they're right.:pctoss

[MajorMike]

LSU should make it if Missou loses, however voters have been dumb enough to vote in a team that didn't win its conference (Nebraska 2002).

Or uo in 2003 when KState killed them 35-7 in the B12 game but the BCS kept them #1.

[Kermit]

Or uo in 2003 when KState killed them 35-7 in the B12 game but the BCS kept them #1.

Ah, yes.

[Thunder Dan]

Dont start crying when LSU kills OSU :elephant

because LSU looks so good. Seriously what do people see in LSU? They drop more balls than most high schools do, both of their QBs suck, and they had to beat Tennessee with a defensive TD. They should have lost 4 games this year:Kentucky, Auburn, Arkansas, and Tennessee. All it is is jealousy of Ohio St. they lost one BCS bowl out of the 5 they have been to and everyone wants to pile on them. Don't blame us that we make the National Title game during a rebuilding year.

[BeerIsGood!]

because LSU looks so good. Seriously what do people see in LSU? They drop more balls than most high schools do, both of their QBs suck, and they had to beat Tennessee with a defensive TD. They should have lost 4 games this year:Kentucky, Auburn, Arkansas, and Tennessee. All it is is jealousy of Ohio St. they lost one BCS bowl out of the 5 they have been to and everyone wants to pile on them. Don't blame us that we make the National Title game during a rebuilding year.

Yes, Ohio State has been extraordinary. Getting handled by Ill. and having their best win over the team who got busted at home by App. St. is a very impressive resume.

[BeerIsGood!]

Everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY Sucks.

[scott]

because LSU looks so good. Seriously what do people see in LSU? They drop more balls than most high schools do, both of their QBs suck, and they had to beat Tennessee with a defensive TD. They should have lost 4 games this year:Kentucky, Auburn, Arkansas, and Tennessee. All it is is jealousy of Ohio St. they lost one BCS bowl out of the 5 they have been to and everyone wants to pile on them. Don't blame us that we make the National Title game during a rebuilding year.

I see the same things in LSU that I see in Ohio State.

That is, an overrated team.

[PeterBurns]

because LSU looks so good. Seriously what do people see in LSU? They drop more balls than most high schools do, both of their QBs suck, and they had to beat Tennessee with a defensive TD. They should have lost 4 games this year:Kentucky, Auburn, Arkansas, and Tennessee. All it is is jealousy of Ohio St. they lost one BCS bowl out of the 5 they have been to and everyone wants to pile on them. Don't blame us that we make the National Title game during a rebuilding year.





Seriously?
Okay....They won SEC....Easily the best conference in College Football
Unbeaten in Regulation.
2 Losses....Both in 3 OT.

How will voters reward Kansas?
They couldn't win their Division, let alone their conference

How will voters reward Georgia.
They couldn't win their Division, let alone their conference.

Virginia Tech....HA.
LSU beat them by 41 points?

LSU deserves to play....and it will.

GEAUX TIGERS

[leemajors]

unbeaten in regulation = nonsense.

[MajorMike]

Not counting Hawai'i, only one team in the running has not lost in the month of November - UGA.

[Thunder Dan]

Yes, Ohio State has been extraordinary. Getting handled by Ill. and having their best win over the team who got busted at home by App. St. is a very impressive resume.

yeah our one loss came against a team that will play in a BCS game. Try to make that argument for LSU, Oklahoma, Va Tech, Georgia, or USC


Seriously?
Okay....They won SEC....Easily the best conference in College Football
Unbeaten in Regulation.
2 Losses....Both in 3 OT.

How will voters reward Kansas?
They couldn't win their Division, let alone their conference

How will voters reward Georgia.
They couldn't win their Division, let alone their conference.

Virginia Tech....HA.
LSU beat them by 41 points?

LSU deserves to play....and it will.

GEAUX TIGERS

I want LSU in the game. I'm just sticking up for Ohio State because everyone treats them like they are some junior college, when in fact they have been a powerhouse in college football since the early nineties, and one of the winningest programs in the history of CF

[PeterBurns]

Listen....Georgia is as hot as anyone right now. I understand that.
But with that said, they couldn't win their own division.

They lost to Tennessee by 3 TD's....21 Points?
Are you kidding me?

If we have to deal with no playoff system. You have to look at the entire body of work. And Georgia is not as strong as LSU's resume.

[PeterBurns]

Honestly it should be LSU-Georgia or LSU-Oklahoma.

Those would be the best matchups.
Even Oklahoma-Georgia would be a great game.

[PeterBurns]

Vegas will have LSU as a -8 point favorite my guess, perhaps more

[jochhejaam]

This sounds like grounds for a sig bet. I say LSU jumps VT in the next poll.
Weird, LSU jumped to 2nd over Kansas, Georgia and VT???

Good call Stout.

[ShoogarBear]

ES wins thread.

Of course, he probably won it over a bunch of his trolls.

[kingsfan]

Fucking bullshit if the coaches poll stands. :madrun
UGA got screwed, we won our last 7 games, what other teams can say that. OK we didn't win the SEC but where does it say we have to? Right now, except for Hawaii, we are the best team in the nation and we should get the chance to prove it.
I believe we could beat anybody right now. Every year the teams that have early losses (like us) don't get penalized but we do? Fuck the BCS, go to POs!

[Extra Stout]

ES wins thread.

Of course, he probably won it over a bunch of his trolls.
That does make it easier.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

These polls are a joke.

How do you justify a jump from #7 to #2 over teams that won or didn't play? Why even have polls throughout the season then?

It's a total bullshit system. Just have one poll at the end of the year and be done with it.

[jochhejaam]

Fucking bullshit if the coaches poll stands. :madrun
UGA got screwed, we won our last 7 games, what other teams can say that. OK we didn't win the SEC but where does it say we have to? Right now, except for Hawaii, we are the best team in the nation and we should get the chance to prove it.

:cry :lol Too bad the rankings aren't based on you last 7 games (you actually won your last 6), it's based on your entire season and you lost twice, once to a mediocre S Carolina team, and then you got whalloped by Tennessee 35-14!
That doesn't support your contention that you're the Best.

[Flintstones32]

These polls are a joke.

How do you justify a jump from #7 to #2 over teams that won or didn't play? Why even have polls throughout the season then?

It's a total bullshit system. Just have one poll at the end of the year and be done with it.


The polls have been a joke since the BCS started. There should not be a pre-season poll at all. They shouldn't start one until week 8 when the BCS is started. Putting some of these teams to the top at the beginning of the season is a huge advantage when some of them don't even deserve it. Look at Michigan at #5 this year.

So looks like either LSU or Oklahoma vs. Ohio State. Either one will be a good game I think. Would love to see Hawaii against the other just to show that they deserve to be up there as well.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The polls are a joke because if this was any other week in the season, I doubt LSU jumps Georgia. And why can only LSU jump Georgia? What about VaTech? Shouldn't they jump Georgia as well? Oh, right the LSU thing is just to put them into the title game. All the other teams not in the top 3 don't matter anymore.

It's just turned into a popularity contest and has nothing to do with football. I mean, does anybody remember that OU and LSU both lost to unranked teams in the last few weeks? Didn't think so.

[Flintstones32]

Yeah I know. Any other week and Georgia is 2 and Kansas is 3. The BCS says that not going to your conference championship doesnt matter, but it obviously matters to the voters. It is very lame, and it is a popularity contest.

I read on one of these posts, can't remember who said it that LSU would just because of it being in New Orleans this year and would make the most money that way. Find it hard to disagree with that.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I forgot to add OU's meteoric rise from #9 to #3, jumping two teams that won (one being a CCG against a ranked team just like OU) and two teams that didn't play.

Is it safe to assume that week 13's rankings mean absolutely nothing?

[jochhejaam]

Just announced, WV against Okla. in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl.

Kansas against VT in the Orange Bowl.

[ShoogarBear]

LMAO, Kansas was rewarded for losing to Missouri.

[Flintstones32]

LMAO, Kansas was rewarded for losing to Missouri.

Yeah that's just horrible voting. Hope Hawaii destroys Georgia.

[kingsfan]

:cry :lol Too bad the rankings aren't based on you last 7 games (you actually won your last 6), it's based on your entire season and you lost twice, once to a mediocre S Carolina team, and then you got whalloped by Tennessee 35-14!
That doesn't support your contention that you're the Best.Oops typo, I've been up way too many hours but you missed what I was saying-RIGHT NOW, not for the whole season. We had an awful start and we're paying for it, I don't deny that but any other year that wouldn't matter. It's no secret that 2 10-2 teams rankings would vary greatly delending on when their losses are. You lose your first 2 you could be in the top 5, lose the last 2 and you'll be lucky to be in the top 15.
We're ranked #4, the 2 top teams lose, any other week, we'd be #2 but we slip to #5, bullshit!
It's all political and monetary which is another reason why POs are needed. The Sugar Bowl isn't a bad bowl to be in but not when you could be in the ntl championship game or we could have gone to the Rose Bowl-Illinios? Wtf?

[JoeChalupa]

Go Buckeyes!!!

[Extra Stout]

LMAO, Kansas was rewarded for losing to Missouri.
You keep falling into the "competitive integrity" fallacy.

The issue at hand is not who between Kansas and Missouri has a better football team.

The issue is, which fan base will generate more revenue for the Orange Bowl?

Mizzou fans have just had to travel to San Antonio and spend discretionary income at the Big 12 title game. What do they have left now to go to Miami?

If the rules allowed for it, the Orange Bowl would have invited Notre Dame.

[samikeyp]

Oops typo, I've been up way too many hours but you missed what I was saying-RIGHT NOW, not for the whole season. We had an awful start and we're paying for it, I don't deny that but any other year that wouldn't matter. It's no secret that 2 10-2 teams rankings would vary greatly delending on when their losses are. You lose your first 2 you could be in the top 5, lose the last 2 and you'll be lucky to be in the top 15.
We're ranked #4, the 2 top teams lose, any other week, we'd be #2 but we slip to #5, bullshit!
It's all political and monetary which is another reason why POs are needed. The Sugar Bowl isn't a bad bowl to be in but not when you could be in the ntl championship game or we could have gone to the Rose Bowl-Illinios? Wtf?


Agreed.

If #1 and #2 lose and then #3 moves to #1...by the same system #4 should be moved to #2. I don't think UGA should be in the title game but if you are going to elevate Ohio State using the current system, you should do the same with Georgia.

[TheTruth]

Illinois? In the Rose Bowl? Jesus, the Big 10 was bad this year. Ohio St. is gonna get stomped.

[K-State Spur]

You keep falling into the "competitive integrity" fallacy.

The issue at hand is not who between Kansas and Missouri has a better football team.

The issue is, which fan base will generate more revenue for the Orange Bowl?

Mizzou fans have just had to travel to San Antonio and spend discretionary income at the Big 12 title game. What do they have left now to go to Miami?

If the rules allowed for it, the Orange Bowl would have invited Notre Dame.

KU fans save all their money for March. Despite that Mangino has gotten them to 2 of their first bowl games in quite a long time, their attendance was pretty sparse.

Rumor has it that their AD is already discounting student tickets by as much as 2/3 in an attempt to stimulate some kind of demand.

[Thunder Dan]

Illinois? In the Rose Bowl? Jesus, the Big 10 was bad this year. Ohio St. is gonna get stomped.

yep Ohio State sucks. We stand no chance against the mighty LSU

- 2002 Ohio State, 2003 LSU, 2005 Texas, 2006 Florida

the underdog has won 4 out of the last 5 BCS Championship Games, 7 of 9 overall since the start of the BCS

[tlongII]

What a fucking joke the BCS has become! The Big-12 gets 3 teams in BCS Bowl games??? WTF??? Right now USC is the best team in the country and they will be playing Illinois??? Arizona State got hosed by being shut out of a BCS Bowl game. The Beavers got hosed by the Sun Bowl after they chose Oregon (whom the Beavs beat!) over OSU. OSU should be in the Holiday Bowl vs Texas if everything worked as it should.

[mookie2001]

what 3 teams?

[samikeyp]

The Big-12 gets 3 teams in BCS Bowl games???

They got OU and KU...that's it.

[tlongII]

My bad. I thought Missouri was in a BCS Bowl. As Emily Latella would say......."Never mind."

[leemajors]

the beavs got hosed by the rose bowl not wanting pac 10 vs pac 10.

[PeterBurns]

Oops typo, I've been up way too many hours but you missed what I was saying-RIGHT NOW, not for the whole season. We had an awful start and we're paying for it, I don't deny that but any other year that wouldn't matter. It's no secret that 2 10-2 teams rankings would vary greatly delending on when their losses are. You lose your first 2 you could be in the top 5, lose the last 2 and you'll be lucky to be in the top 15.
We're ranked #4, the 2 top teams lose, any other week, we'd be #2 but we slip to #5, bullshit!
It's all political and monetary which is another reason why POs are needed. The Sugar Bowl isn't a bad bowl to be in but not when you could be in the ntl championship game or we could have gone to the Rose Bowl-Illinios? Wtf?



This does truly Suck that Georgia has to play Hawaii.
No matter what happens, it's a lose-lose situation for them.

If they win, they were supposed to win, and get no respect.
And if they lose.....Well, that's pretty self-explanatory

I agree, noone wants to play Georgia, but you can't tell me losing in 3 OT's to either Kentucky or Arkansas is as bad as getting worked by 3 TD's to Tennessee.

I'm just saying.

GEAUX TIGERS

[PeterBurns]

yep Ohio State sucks. We stand no chance against the mighty LSU

- 2002 Ohio State, 2003 LSU, 2005 Texas, 2006 Florida

the underdog has won 4 out of the last 5 BCS Championship Games, 7 of 9 overall since the start of the BCS



Here's the bullshit part of it.....
There almost 2 months before tOSU plays again. Is that really a true judge of the best team....Not in my opinion. Anything can happen.

But Ohio State hasn't really been tested this year, and Big Ten Football is basically Triple A ball compared to the Major Leagues of the SEC.

You put tOSU in the SEC and they are at least a 2-3 loss team.


This is the best matchup LSU could get with the teams out there.
If both teams are healthy.

I can see LSU winning 31-17.

[Thunder Dan]

Here's the bullshit part of it.....
There almost 2 months before tOSU plays again. Is that really a true judge of the best team....Not in my opinion. Anything can happen.

But Ohio State hasn't really been tested this year, and Big Ten Football is basically Triple A ball compared to the Major Leagues of the SEC.

You put tOSU in the SEC and they are at least a 2-3 loss team.


This is the best matchup LSU could get with the teams out there.
If both teams are healthy.

I can see LSU winning 31-17.

Well considering that Ohio State is a team full of 4&5 star players, and future NFLer, I don't think they will be undermanned. Ohio State is a Triple A to nobody. Year in and Year out they get some of the best prospects this country has to offer. Half of their roster was recruited by SEC schools including LSU. There is no talent difference, the difference is the coaches...which one will have his team the most prepared.

FYI, Ohio State has 2nd the most players in the NFL behind only USC...and they still hold the most 1st round draft picks in the NFL Draft with 66.

[JamStone]

the beavs got hosed by the rose bowl not wanting pac 10 vs pac 10.


huh? the beavs have 4 losses and didn't even finish in the top 25 in any of the polls. how did they get hosed?

[samikeyp]

Well considering that Ohio State is a team full of 4&5 star players, and future NFLer, I don't think they will be undermanned. Ohio State is a Triple A to nobody. Year in and Year out they get some of the best prospects this country has to offer. Half of their roster was recruited by SEC schools including LSU. There is no talent difference, the difference is the coaches...which one will have his team the most prepared.

FYI, Ohio State has 2nd the most players in the NFL behind only USC...and they still hold the most 1st round draft picks in the NFL Draft with 66.


All very valid points.





but I am still picking LSU to win. :)

[PeterBurns]

Well considering that Ohio State is a team full of 4&5 star players, and future NFLer, I don't think they will be undermanned. Ohio State is a Triple A to nobody. Year in and Year out they get some of the best prospects this country has to offer. Half of their roster was recruited by SEC schools including LSU. There is no talent difference, the difference is the coaches...which one will have his team the most prepared.

FYI, Ohio State has 2nd the most players in the NFL behind only USC...and they still hold the most 1st round draft picks in the NFL Draft with 66.

I don't doubt the recruits statement at all. tOSU is a great program, with a lot of history.
I recently watched the OSU-Michigan Rivarly documentry on HBO and it was awesome.

I'm just saying, Zook just went in to the Big Ten, with a very average team and turned them into a BCS contender in a year by running a SEC style offense.

LSU has more speed. tOSU has more power.

After a month off, teams tend to be a little slower to react. Therefore I think Speed > Power in a game 50 days from now.

Example....Last year. 41-14

Keep in mind that tOSU is 0-8 vs SEC teams in bowl games.

[Thunder Dan]

I don't doubt the recruits statement at all. tOSU is a great program, with a lot of history.
I recently watched the OSU-Michigan Rivarly documentry on HBO and it was awesome.

I'm just saying, Zook just went in to the Big Ten, with a very average team and turned them into a BCS contender in a year by running a SEC style offense.

LSU has more speed. tOSU has more power.

After a month off, teams tend to be a little slower to react. Therefore I think Speed > Power in a game 50 days from now.

Example....Last year. 41-14

Keep in mind that tOSU is 0-8 vs SEC teams in bowl games.

I know but your generalizing. LSU doesn't run a spread like Florida. They are a power football team that has speed. For instance their RB is actually a fullback. Georgia doesn't run a spread, or SEC Style offense either. I just don't buy it. The Big Ten was 3-1 against the SEC last year, which if they had such a problem with a 'SEC Style' offense wouldn't it be 0-4?

LSU may very well win the game; but it won't be because of this mythical lack of speed. If you have watched LSU at all this year, you would see they don't run an offense that is even close to Florida's. Heck, just look at Tebow's stats.

I'm not going to argue that LSU won't win, because they easily could. The only thing I take offense with is people thinking tOSU will get blown out. Neither team has played the kind of football to expect a blowout in either team's favor.

[RonMexico]

tOSU about to be destroyed, but at least their fans will travel well... and their conference commissioner has single-handedly kept the BCS alive.

[tlongII]

LSU is just lucky they don't have to play USC. USC would pulverize them. USC is just being penalized for losing to Stanford when they had a lot of injuries. I don't get that at all. They still won the Pac-10 which is the best football conference in the country. (Sorry SEC!)

[Extra Stout]

Thunder Dan just devastated PeterBurns. Remind me, which one of you works in sports media again?

Pssst Peter... that's Jacob Hester playing for LSU, not Devin Hester.

[PeterBurns]

Well I guess Trindon Holliday, the fastest man in NCAA football doesn't count as speed. Both teams have great athletes. I get that. But I believe the game is played on a faster speed in the SEC.

Jacob Hester is a man's man. I'd like to see him become a Mike Alstott type guy if he could put on some size.

Honestly, I think the 2006 LSU team was a good deal better than this team. I saw this team in person for the Virginia Tech game. That team was unbeatable. The LSU teams that showed up the other 9 games, was good, not amazing.

But, with Ryan P. at QB....I'm not sure if Ohio State can play with a mobile QB.
Juice lit them up at home....

But shit...who knows. I'm sure Thunder Dan, and I can have a friendly Sig bet.

BTW, LSU opened up as a 5 point favorite

[Thunder Dan]

Well I guess Trindon Holliday, the fastest man in NCAA football doesn't count as speed. Both teams have great athletes. I get that. But I believe the game is played on a faster speed in the SEC.

Jacob Hester is a man's man. I'd like to see him become a Mike Alstott type guy if he could put on some size.

Honestly, I think the 2006 LSU team was a good deal better than this team. I saw this team in person for the Virginia Tech game. That team was unbeatable. The LSU teams that showed up the other 9 games, was good, not amazing.

But, with Ryan P. at QB....I'm not sure if Ohio State can play with a mobile QB.
Juice lit them up at home....

But shit...who knows. I'm sure Thunder Dan, and I can have a friendly Sig bet.

BTW, LSU opened up as a 5 point favorite

Brandon Saine runs a similar 40 to Holliday (both around 4.2 seconds), but one guys doesn't matter; case-in-point:Ted Ginn Jr. was faster than every player on Florida's team last year. Saine beat 2 of Ginn's high school track records.

RP is not the same kind of QB as Juice Williams. Perriloux is a BIG guy, and is not as fast a Williams.. he is a couple shades faster than Jamarcus Russell if you are looking to compare similar QB's. There is a difference between mobile QB's and running QB's, RP is a mobile QB. The offense Illinois runs runs through the legs of Juice Williams, the same can't be said for LSU with either of thier QBs. They ARE a Big 10 style team, run by a Big 10 guy in Les Miles. They win games by playing defense first and being opportunistic on offense. These teams are mirror images of eachother. Like I said, LSU wins this game 60% of the time because they are a more veteran team, but this game will not be a blow out by any means. I think it will be close no matter what the outcome is, and anyone that says otherwise is foolish.

[JamStone]

I believe Ohio State will be outmatched. I think LSU is really, really good. And, Dorsey and Flynn should be much healthier than they've been last few weeks. But, after last year when I thought Florida would not be able to keep up with the Buckeyes, I won't say it's definitely going to go LSU's way. Even though I'm a Michigan alum and fan, the Buckeyes are generally well prepared and do have great athletes. Not quite sure Ohio State has played against a defense like LSU this year. Boeckman will really be tested. I'd bet on LSU but you just never know.

[mookie2001]

ways in which jacob hester is like mike alstott


1. white

[Thunder Dan]

ways in which jacob hester is like mike alstott


1. white

they were both listed as fullbacks that get the majority of their team's carries, most being inside the tackles. Alstott is much bigger (if I remember correctly).

[jochhejaam]

What a fucking joke the BCS has become! The Big-12 gets 3 teams in BCS Bowl games??? WTF??? Right now USC is the best team in the country and they will be playing Illinois??? Arizona State got hosed by being shut out of a BCS Bowl game. The Beavers got hosed by the Sun Bowl after they chose Oregon (whom the Beavs beat!) over OSU. OSU should be in the Holiday Bowl vs Texas if everything worked as it should.
:lol Go Buckeyes!!

[tlongII]

LSU will win big. tOSU isn't even a top 5 team. Anybody that thinks otherwise is in for a rude awakening.

[jochhejaam]

LSU will win big. tOSU isn't even a top 5 team. Anybody that thinks otherwise is in for a rude awakening.

LSU couldn't beat 4 loss Arkansas and they couldn't beat 5 loss Kentucky.

Quite a pedigree there. I'm sure the OSU players are paralyzed with fear...

[PeterBurns]

ways in which jacob hester is like mike alstott


1. white


2. The both play hard nosed football and can put a lick on someone trying to tackle them

[PeterBurns]

LSU couldn't beat 4 loss Arkansas and they couldn't beat 5 loss Kentucky.

Quite a pedigree there. I'm sure the OSU players are paralyzed with fear...


You are right, I guess they shouldn't fear a team that beat the #3 BCS team by 41 points.

Or a team that beat 4 other Final Top 25 Teams.....

Ohio State played one top 25 team this year....And lost.

I'm not saying they are scared. They shouldn't be, It's not their fault, the played who they had on their schedule. I'm just pointing out that they skated through another easy Big 10 schedule this year. And have a very big chance of embarrassing the Big 10 for the second year in a row.

If LSU puts a Florida-like 2006 Ass-Whipping on them, it will pretty much solidify the fact that the Big Ten is a Minor League conference compared to the SEC.

But then again, throw everything out of the window, when you realize that the game is over a month away, which is a really shitty way to determine the championship.

Pretty much like finishing the NFC-AFC Championship in Late January and playing the Super Bowl 50 days later in March.....WTF?

[PeterBurns]

Honestly, after this crazy season as an LSU fan...I would love to see a close game. Overtime would pretty much summarize this season for us.

But then again, if it's in OT....We don't fare too well in those..lol.

[TheTruth]

Illinois? In the Rose Bowl?? Man the Big 10 sucks. ILLINOIS!??!?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

If LSU puts a Florida-like 2006 Ass-Whipping on them, it will pretty much solidify the fact that the Big Ten is a Minor League conference compared to the SEC.



Based on what?



I've heard this argument before and it has no basis. B10 won 2 out of 3 games against the powerhouse SEC in 2006. In fact, the minor league B10 is 8-9 versus the SEC since 2000.

B10 teams usually have travel to SEC backyards to play in those games as well.

Simply put, the SEC is overrated.

[AFE7FATMAN]

I haven't posted in a while but my $ is on LSU and I don't let loose of my $ on a whim
Born in OHIO, raised on the border, stationed in LA before retirement, 2 sons live in Monroe LA

[PeterBurns]

Based on what?



I've heard this argument before and it has no basis. B10 won 2 out of 3 games against the powerhouse SEC in 2006. In fact, the minor league B10 is 8-9 versus the SEC since 2000.

B10 teams usually have travel to SEC backyards to play in those games as well.

Simply put, the SEC is overrated.

I think top to bottom the SEC is a stronger conference.

If it's another blowout, that would be fodder to consider that a Big Ten record is softer than a SEC record...IMHO

[tlongII]

Everybody is forgetting that the real crime in all of this is that USC is not in the title game. Both the Big 10 and the SEC are minor league compared to the BRUTAL Pac-10!

[PeterBurns]

Everybody is forgetting that the real crime in all of this is that USC is not in the title game. Both the Big 10 and the SEC are minor league compared to the BRUTAL Pac-10!


Stanford

[Thunder Dan]

Everybody is forgetting that the real crime in all of this is that USC is not in the title game. Both the Big 10 and the SEC are minor league compared to the BRUTAL Pac-10!

"Brutal" as in Stanford at home?! Stanford beat Notre Dame.

[Thunder Dan]

Based on what?



I've heard this argument before and it has no basis. B10 won 2 out of 3 games against the powerhouse SEC in 2006. In fact, the minor league B10 is 8-9 versus the SEC since 2000.

B10 teams usually have travel to SEC backyards to play in those games as well.

Simply put, the SEC is overrated.

Ohio State/ LSU for arguments sake they are equal all things considered

Michigan/ Florida gotta hand this to Florida

Illinois/ Georgia Georgia is the better football team both then and now
I think Illi will be very good in years to come, but right
now, edge Georgia

Wisconsin/Tennessee I say equal on this. Wisky had a ton of injuries this year
that killed their season. Tennessee just isn't a elite
team, that is the definition of Wisconsin. No Edge

Penn St/ Auburn Aurburn this year, changes from year to year. no team is
exactly a powerhouse, but they arn't stiffs either.
Both could go to BCS Games. Edge Auburn

Iowa/Alabama Neither team is very good even when their record is. They
could go 9-2 or 2-9 depending on what year it is. You can
also pencil in them upsetting someone. No edge

MSU/SC Again, neither school is consistent. They could upset
someone. They are both programs on the rise. no edge

Purdue/Kentucky Purdue used to be good, and Kentucky used to be terrible.
I think if you take Woodson off the team, Purdue is the
better team YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT. edge Purdue

Indiana/ Arkansas I honestly never even knew Arkansas had a football team
until they got McFadden. I forget Indiana has a football
team every year until they play Ohio State. edge Arkansas
(though it could change once DMac is gone)

Mississippi, Minnesota, Northwestern, Vanderbilt,Mississippi St. are all football teams that consider making it to a bowl game a sucessful season. They are all not very good football teams, and not contenders to most of the top teams in either conference. (Ole Miss and Minnesota are REALLY bad)


I think the SEC is better than the Big Ten if you match up the teams. I did the match ups with not too much thought into it other than the last 3 or 4 years. I think the bottom of both conferences are both bad, and the middle could go either way depending on the year. The thing is that 5 years from now it could totally swing in the Big Ten's favor.

One other thing, it's not Ohio State's job to recruit for Penn State, Michigan State and the other Big Ten schools, they just play who is on their schedule. And if you really want to know why OSU played a weak offseason schedule here it is.

Youngstown State- all schools could schedule one 1-AA school this year
Michigan, Florida, Georgia, and Alabama were among
schools to do so, not just tOSU.

Akron- The Big Ten has a deal with the MAC. Each Big Ten schools have to
play a certain number of MAC schools before 2010. I believe each
school must play 8 games vs the MAC from 2000-20010 could be
wrong on the exacts. Other conferences do this as well. I think SEC
had a similar deal with the Sun Belt.

Washington- This is the back end of a home and home from 2003. Washington
isn't a powerhouse, but this was scheduled in 1999.

Kent State- This was a bye week. It was a bye week all the way up until
2003. Ohio St. and Kent St. decided to schedule this game
because they both had bye weeks that week, they were close
and Kent State loses almost $500k a year in their football
program. This single game took them out of the red and into
the black by giving them $780k. I know the most about this
single game because my girlfriend's dad is the AD at Kent. This
was Tressel just keeping money in the state.

Now, this doesn't excuse them for playing a weak schedule because they did. I was just explaining why they did and it's not like they just picked a bunch of easy teams. The way their fulfillments worked out, this year was bound to happen.

[jochhejaam]

[
QUOTE=PeterBurns]You are right, I guess they shouldn't fear a team that beat the #3 BCS team by 41 points.
Along with that tidbit of information, please explain the defeats at the hands of 5 loss Kentucky and 4 loss Arkansas.


Or a team that beat 4 other Final Top 25 Teams.....
Ohio State played one top 25 team this year....And lost. I'm not saying they are scared. They shouldn't be, It's not their fault, the played who they had on their schedule. I'm just pointing out that they skated through another easy Big 10 schedule this year. And have a very big chance of embarrassing the Big 10 for the second year in a row.
??? From what source did you pull that information? (don't answer, I already know).

-Ohio State beat Purdue 23-7 at Purdue, they were ranked 23rd at the time.

-Ohio State beat Penn State 37-17 at Penn State, they were ranked 25th at the time.

-Ohio State beat Wisconson 38-17 at Home, they were ranked 21st at the time.

-Ohio State beat Michigan 14-3 at Michigan, they were ranked 21st at the time.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teamsched?teamId=194

Nice research on your part Burns. Misinformation of that magnitude pretty much begs for dismissing your entire arguement.

[johngateswhiteley]

LSU is just lucky they don't have to play USC. USC would pulverize them. USC is just being penalized for losing to Stanford when they had a lot of injuries. I don't get that at all. They still won the Pac-10 which is the best football conference in the country. (Sorry SEC!)

smartest thing you have ever said.

[PeterBurns]

[
Along with that tidbit of information, please explain the defeats at the hands of 5 loss Kentucky and 4 loss Arkansas.


??? From what source did you pull that information? (don't answer, I already know).

Nice research on your part Burns. Misinformation of that magnitude pretty much begs for dismissing your entire arguement.


Seriously......Did you look at the Final Coaches Poll?
That's where I pulled that info from.

If you are using the asisine statement of where they were when they played, then LSU would have even a bigger and better arguement....but novices will use that theory. It's where a team ended up after the season that is a more accurate judgement of their team...

If you don't think so...then explain....South Florida was ranked #2 at one Point....How About #2 Cal?...Where did they end up? #11 UCLA? How About #14 Nebraska...or what about #6 South Carolina?.....I forgot about #10 Rutgers....

Pretty much shoots your theory into s***

Nice counterarguement...... :dramaquee

[PeterBurns]

[

??? From what source did you pull that information? (don't answer, I already know).

-Ohio State beat Purdue 23-7 at Purdue, they were ranked 23rd at the time.

-Ohio State beat Penn State 37-17 at Penn State, they were ranked 25th at the time.

-Ohio State beat Wisconson 38-17 at Home, they were ranked 21st at the time.

-Ohio State beat Michigan 14-3 at Michigan, they were ranked 21st at the time.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teamsched?teamId=194

Nice research on your part Burns. Misinformation of that magnitude pretty much begs for dismissing your entire arguement.



Also, by your own arguement......It still stands to reason that tOSU didn't play a Top 20 opponent all year long....


And LSU....

No. 9 Virginia Tech W 48-7
No. 12 South Carolina W 28-16
No. 9 Florida W 28-24
No. 17 Auburn W 30-24
No. 17 Alabama W 41-34
No. 14 Tennessee W 21-14

So please spare me with your weak counterarguement.


Again....I agree with Thunder Dan. It's not their fault the tOSU played a softer schedule....I'm just saying that LSU is much more battle tested against better teams than OSU.

Does that mean that they will get blown out....not at all. Just that big game experience would probably be on the side of LSU

[PeterBurns]

why[/I] they did and it's not like they just picked a bunch of easy teams. The way their fulfillments worked out, this year was bound to happen.

Completely understood.

Well, LSU is not much better. Outside of the big VTech game.(Which stems from a home/home with them from 2002)...we had our own version of patsies.

Middle Tenn State...
Tulane.....
LA Tech....

[mookie2001]

2. The both play hard nosed football and can put a lick on someone trying to tackle themso do hundreds of other black running and fullbacks

[mookie2001]

Everybody is forgetting that the real crime in all of this is that USC is not in the title game. Both the Big 10 and the SEC are minor league compared to the BRUTAL Pac-10!tlong is a arizona state fan, arizona fan, washington fan, washington state fan, oregon fan, oregon state fan, cal fan, stanford fan, ucla fan, and a usc fan


thats alot of starter jackets to buy

[jochhejaam]

[QUOTE=PeterBurns]Also, by your own facts......It still stands to reason that tOSU didn't play a Top 20 opponent all year long....
If you had been that factual to begin with, taking you to the woodshed would not have been necessary.

Oh, and you never did digress on LSU's 2 defeats to the 2 teams that lost a combined 9 games.
Oversight?

[ShoogarBear]

Short of a playoff, I think at minimum, the BCS needs to make a rule that you have to win or tie for your conference championship to make the Championship game. Otherwise, it's just not logical.

[BeerIsGood!]

Short of a playoff, I think at minimum, the BCS needs to make a rule that you have to win or tie for your conference championship to make the Championship game. Otherwise, it's just not logical.

Or just make a rule that whatever flavor of the month team from the small shitty conference manages to go undefeated against their shitty competition on their shitty schedule automatically gets in the title game because they're undefeated and they won their conference.

It could be very conceivable that the two best teams in the country play in the same conference. There's no reasonable "short of a playoff" scenario, just a playoffs or bust scenario. Of course, the playoffs will never happen because of all the dumb asses out there (Ron Mexico) who continue to watch and spend money on these meaningless bowl games. If approx. 85% of the college football viewing country really wanted a playoffs as all these polls recently indicate, then they would boycott this meaningless shit system to get it changed.

[Thunder Dan]

It could be very conceivable that the two best teams in the country play in the same conference. There's no reasonable "short of a playoff" scenario, just a playoffs or bust scenario. Of course, the playoffs will never happen because of all the dumb asses out there (Ron Mexico) who continue to watch and spend money on these meaningless bowl games. If approx. 85% of the college football viewing country really wanted a playoffs as all these polls recently indicate, then they would boycott this meaningless shit system to get it changed.

by that theory, the playoff starts in September like it should. Georgia started their playoff run in September and didn't advance. Teams' main focus should be winning their conference before thinking about a BCS Championship Game. Hawaii doesn't get a shot at the title because their own conference failed to meet requirements in order to join the BCS because of attendance stipulations, it's the same reason a MAC team can play in a game, but not the title game. If their fans want them to have a shot at the BCS every year they should buy tickets and go to the games.

College football has a playoff, it starts in Septemeber. If you want to make it to the Big Game you should win all of your games; if you don't then you lose control and you should just shut the hell up. Win all your games and 95% of the time you will make it to the title game if you are in a BCS Conference. Who is there to blame if you have a loss or 2 and you don't make it into the BCS Game? only yourself.

[romad_20]

by that theory, the playoff starts in September like it should. Georgia started their playoff run in September and didn't advance. Teams' main focus should be winning their conference before thinking about a BCS Championship Game. Hawaii doesn't get a shot at the title because their own conference failed to meet requirements in order to join the BCS because of attendance stipulations, it's the same reason a MAC team can play in a game, but not the title game. If their fans want them to have a shot at the BCS every year they should buy tickets and go to the games.

College football has a playoff, it starts in Septemeber. If you want to make it to the Big Game you should win all of your games; if you don't then you lose control and you should just shut the hell up. Win all your games and 95% of the time you will make it to the title game if you are in a BCS Conference. Who is there to blame if you have a loss or 2 and you don't make it into the BCS Game? only yourself.

I agree but in a year like this I don't know how you can judge who is better if 6 teams have 2 losses. Winning your conference isn't necessarily indicative of how good of a team you are at the end of the season. UGA hasn't lost since early Oct and has played a harder schedule since. LSU has lost twice in that time frame and barely escaped in a couple of other games, they also lost at home to an unranked team. The SEC east had a great UGA team, a very good Fla team with the Heisman front runner, a good Tenn team and a good Kentucky team. The west had LSU and Auburn.

The playoffs are needed. Everything else will just be sports writer BS and a popularity contest. PROVE IT ON THE FIELD HEAD TO HEAD! :pctoss

[PeterBurns]

[QUOTE]
If you had been that factual to begin with, taking you to the woodshed would not have been necessary.

Are you kidding me.....I blew a hole in both of your alleged Woodshed arguement. Good to see you going Baghdad Bob on us....


[QUOTE] Oh, and you never did digress on LSU's 2 defeats to the 2 teams that lost a combined 9 games.
Oversight?

Well, We lost in Overtime to a Hot Kentucky team coming off a brutal week against Florida.

And we lost to the #23 Ranked team with the Heisman Runner-up.

Did I mention both of them in 3 OT's?

[Thunder Dan]

I agree but in a year like this I don't know how you can judge who is better if 6 teams have 2 losses. Winning your conference isn't necessarily indicative of how good of a team you are at the end of the season. UGA hasn't lost since early Oct and has played a harder schedule since. LSU has lost twice in that time frame and barely escaped in a couple of other games, they also lost at home to an unranked team. The SEC east had a great UGA team, a very good Fla team with the Heisman front runner, a good Tenn team and a good Kentucky team. The west had LSU and Auburn.

The playoffs are needed. Everything else will just be sports writer BS and a popularity contest. PROVE IT ON THE FIELD HEAD TO HEAD! :pctoss

I know, this year is a huge toss up, but if you don't want to be part of the confusion you should win all your games. If you lose one or 2 games, you lose your right to bitch. Auburn in 2004 had a legitimate beef, but I don't feel sorry for any team this year for being held out of the Championship Game. USC might be the best now, but they lost 2 games so it doesn't matter, same goes for Georgia. If you don't want the hassle, win all your games and don't take a week off. I don't care who loses to who, the result is the same, you lost. If you lose in a playoff you go home, you don't bitch about who you lost to, or when you lost. If everyone treated the whole season as a playoff then people wouldn't bitch so much about a system they won't change.

[BeerIsGood!]

by that theory, the playoff starts in September like it should. Georgia started their playoff run in September and didn't advance. Teams' main focus should be winning their conference before thinking about a BCS Championship Game. Hawaii doesn't get a shot at the title because their own conference failed to meet requirements in order to join the BCS because of attendance stipulations, it's the same reason a MAC team can play in a game, but not the title game. If their fans want them to have a shot at the BCS every year they should buy tickets and go to the games.

College football has a playoff, it starts in Septemeber. If you want to make it to the Big Game you should win all of your games; if you don't then you lose control and you should just shut the hell up. Win all your games and 95% of the time you will make it to the title game if you are in a BCS Conference. Who is there to blame if you have a loss or 2 and you don't make it into the BCS Game? only yourself.

That might be the most retarded thing I've read in a while. The playoff started in September? Then why wasn't Ohio St. eliminated after the Ill. loss and LSU eliminated after the Kentucky loss? Or EVEN THE ARK LOSS? Get outta here with that bullshit. This isn't basketball or hockey. No 7 game series here, football is one and done in the playoffs anywhere it is played.

The two best teams in the country could be LSU and Georgia, but they both can't win their conference to play in the title game. It's not that hard to understand. Get a 16 team playoff with the top four teams getting a bye and hash it out to see who really are the two best teams, and they could even be from the same conference.

[Extra Stout]

by that theory, the playoff starts in September like it should. Georgia started their playoff run in September and didn't advance. Teams' main focus should be winning their conference before thinking about a BCS Championship Game. Hawaii doesn't get a shot at the title because their own conference failed to meet requirements in order to join the BCS because of attendance stipulations, it's the same reason a MAC team can play in a game, but not the title game. If their fans want them to have a shot at the BCS every year they should buy tickets and go to the games.

College football has a playoff, it starts in Septemeber. If you want to make it to the Big Game you should win all of your games; if you don't then you lose control and you should just shut the hell up. Win all your games and 95% of the time you will make it to the title game if you are in a BCS Conference. Who is there to blame if you have a loss or 2 and you don't make it into the BCS Game? only yourself.
By that theory, the national championship can only be legitimate if a major-conference team goes undefeated; else, the whole thing is arbitrary.

[Thunder Dan]

That might be the most retarded thing I've read in a while. The playoff started in September? Then why wasn't Ohio St. eliminated after the Ill. loss and LSU eliminated after the Kentucky loss? Or EVEN THE ARK LOSS? Get outta here with that bullshit. This isn't basketball or hockey. No 7 game series here, football is one and done in the playoffs anywhere it is played.

The two best teams in the country could be LSU and Georgia, but they both can't win their conference to play in the title game. It's not that hard to understand. Get a 16 team playoff with the top four teams getting a bye and hash it out to see who really are the two best teams, and they could even be from the same conference.

College Football will never have a playoff because of tradition, if you want to win the Championship and you want to control your own fate:win all your games. Why can't people accept that? It's not going to happen.

Every game matters in college football, the one is September could be just as important as the one in November. You should win your conference first, then worry about the BCS Championship. It's not like you make anymore money by playing in the BCS Championship than you do in the Sugar Bowl. Teams should win their conference and focus only on that and let the rest dictate itself.


By that theory, the national championship can only be legitimate if a major-conference team goes undefeated; else, the whole thing is arbitrary.

exactly, because the SunBelt, WAC, and MAC don't meet attendance standards set BY THE NCAA

[Extra Stout]

exactly, because the SunBelt, WAC, and MAC don't meet attendance standards set BY THE NCAA
Regardless of what attendance was in the WAC this year, since neither LSU nor Ohio State are undefeated, they therefore already lost in the "playoff," so their selection into the national championship game is arbitrary, and there in fact will not be a legitimate "national champion" crowned this year.

[Thunder Dan]

Regardless of what attendance was in the WAC this year, since neither LSU nor Ohio State are undefeated, they therefore already lost in the "playoff," so their selection into the national championship game is arbitrary, and there in fact will not be a legitimate "national champion" crowned this year.

I'm just saying that if you want to assure yourself a spot in the game then you shouldn't lose. If Georgia didn't want a part in this mess I'm sure there was a play they could have made sometime in September/October that could have teken them out of it. tOSU lost the least out of the BCS Conferences reguarldess of if they play in a weak conference or not, and LSU won their conference with 2 losses and was awarded the game. Georgia has the weakest argument of any of the schools, but it is very black and white, just win and if you do that 99% of the time you will win your conference, and 95% of the time you will make it to the BCS Championship Game.

[BeerIsGood!]

College Football will never have a playoff because of tradition, if you want to win the Championship and you want to control your own fate:win all your games. Why can't people accept that? It's not going to happen.

Every game matters in college football, the one is September could be just as important as the one in November. You should win your conference first, then worry about the BCS Championship. It's not like you make anymore money by playing in the BCS Championship than you do in the Sugar Bowl. Teams should win their conference and focus only on that and let the rest dictate itself.



exactly, because the SunBelt, WAC, and MAC don't meet attendance standards set BY THE NCAA

Use the bowls as a round of playoff games with the BCS bowls rotating to be the semifinals and finals year in and out. All of the Gator Bowls and Sun Bowls can still play with their teams outside of the top 16.

Really, the solution rests with the fans. One well timed, organized boycott of every bowl except the title game with the specified demand of the NCAA to organize a playoff system would change it all quickly when nobody is making any money and advertisers get screwed.

[K-State Spur]

College Football will never have a playoff because of tradition.

When the bowls started selling their names, they lost the right to claim tradition.

People who think that we will "never" have a playoff are out of touch with the pulse of the public.

It'll come. It may take the next generation coming to power, but it will come. Eventually, the powers that be will realize that the money available in a playoff dwarfs that currently coming from the BCS.

We're already hearing people who were hardcore against a playoff start to accept the possibility of a +1 game. Once that concession is made, the floodgates will burst and we'll be looking at a 16 team playoff within a decade.

[K-State Spur]

.if you want to win the Championship and you want to control your own fate:win all your games..

Tell that to 2004 Auburn.

[jochhejaam]

[QUOTE=PeterBurns]
Well, We lost in Overtime to a Hot Kentucky team coming off a brutal week against Florida.
A hot Kentucky team? They had just lost to 6 loss S. Carolina 38-23 the week before beating LSU. How hot is that!! :lol


And we lost to the #23 Ranked team with the Heisman Runner-up.
Hmm, is this the same 23rd ranked team with a Heisman candidate that lost to 6-6 Alabama, Kentucky, Auburn and Tennessee?


Did I mention both of them in 3 OT's?
So you were given extra opportunities to beat those 4 and 5 loss teams and you still couldn't put them away? Thanks for pointing that out. :lol

[PeterBurns]

[QUOTE]
A hot Kentucky team? They had just lost to 6 loss S. Carolina 38-23 the week before beating LSU. How hot is that!! :lol


Hmm, is this the same 23rd ranked team with a Heisman candidate that lost to 6-6 Alabama, Kentucky, Auburn and Tennessee?


So you were given extra opportunities to beat those 4 and 5 loss teams and you still couldn't put them away? Thanks for pointing that out. :lol



Honestly....I'm tired and totally hungover. So you win.
By the way, where's your team at?

[Thunder Dan]

Honestly....I'm tired and totally hungover. So you win.
By the way, where's your team at?

Columbus, soon to be New Orleans... he is a Buckeye fan

[jochhejaam]

Honestly....I'm tired and totally hungover. So you win.

Well, hope you got your rest, and don't drink so much next time.

I wasn't trying to win anything, just pointing out what everyone already knows, that there were a lot of very good teams this year, but there wasn't a totally dominant team.

Should be a good game.

[PeterBurns]

Well, hope you got your rest, and don't drink so much next time.

I wasn't trying to win anything, just pointing out what everyone already knows, that there were a lot of very good teams this year, but there wasn't a totally dominant team.

Should be a good game.



Okay, I'm tired and hungover again. Being single in the radio industry is not friendly to the liver.

I know...I think we all get fired up. I hope it's a hell of a game. I just want both teams to play at the top of their game. If LSU shows up like it did against VTech....they are not beatable....but if they show up lke the last few weeks...then it will be a long day for the Tigers

[samikeyp]

Pete...when will you be on the radio again?