The Seahawks will beat the Cowboys!

[tlongII]

We are 8 and 4 and WE'RE COMING FOR YOU BABY!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lmao

Keep these jinx threads coming! :tu :tu :tu

What is this now? 6 weeks in a row?

[gino>yourlife]

fucking moron

[JustSpurs]

Go Mouse Go!

[ratm1221]

This can't happen. Romo doesn't hold our kicks anymore. Won't be any gifts this year, sorry.

[samikeyp]

Bring it, Sheep boy! :)


(BTW....Tlong is not Mouse.)

[DallasFan]

You should have lost IN YOUR HOUSE last year and you have the same team...the Cowboys have a whole new system and attitude...if we play you, it will be in our house...are you serious?

[tlongII]

Sorry, but we don't lose to NFC East teams.

[Flight3107]

I think you should be more worried about getting past Wild Card Weekend first.

[peewee's lovechild]

Let's bet on it.

I'm talking about more than just a sig bet.

[peewee's lovechild]

We are 8 and 4 and WE'RE COMING FOR YOU BABY!

If you should get so lucky, you'd have to come to us.

[BeerIsGood!]

Seattle will be finished before the Cowboys ever suit up for the playoffs. Seattle is the snack before the feast. The undercard. The kiddie game before the adults play.

[tlongII]

We are playing well right now. If we take care of Arizona this coming weekend we will clinch our division title. We're starting to get healthy too. We'll win our wild card game, beat the Packers at Green Bay, and then bitch-slap the Cowboys in Dallas. BOOK IT!

[J.T.]

We are playing well right now. If we take care of Arizona this coming weekend we will clinch our division title. We're starting to get healthy too. We'll win our wild card game, beat the Packers at Green Bay, and then bitch-slap the Cowboys in Dallas. BOOK IT!

Then get rocked by New England 86-0.

[monosylab1k]

Then get rocked by New England 86-0.
New England?

[monosylab1k]

That's gotta be every Pats or Colts fan's dream tho....that the one NFC team capable of beating them in the Super Bowl gets knocked out prematurely by some shitty team like the Seahawks.

[tlongII]

That's gotta be every Pats or Colts fan's dream tho....that the one NFC team capable of beating them in the Super Bowl gets knocked out prematurely by some shitty team like the Seahawks.

LOL! The Seahawks are the best team in the NFC ASSHAT!

[tlongII]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/12/02/2004048780.jpg
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/12/02/2004048781.jpg
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/12/02/2004048783.jpg

Best linebacker in the NFL!

[DallasFan]

Yeah, you guys definitely deserve a tea party.

Playing the 49ers, Cardinals, and Rams twice in your division is a mighty chore (we'll forget about that "mirage" that happened in AZ). Barely beating the Eagles (the only NFC East team you have played this year) when four passes are thrown directly to your linebacker is quite an accomplishment too.

Yeehaw!!!

[samikeyp]

LOL! The Seahawks are the best team in the NFC ASSHAT!

Not named the Cowboys or Packers.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

The Seachickens suck.

[CubanMustGo]

One thing about Tlong. He's consistent.

Consistently obsessed.

Consistently foolish.

Consistently wrong.

[samikeyp]

but to his credit.....consistently entertaining! :lol

[peewee's lovechild]

We are playing well right now. If we take care of Arizona this coming weekend we will clinch our division title. We're starting to get healthy too. We'll win our wild card game, beat the Packers at Green Bay, and then bitch-slap the Cowboys in Dallas. BOOK IT!



Let's bet on it.

I'm talking about more than just a sig bet.

[Purple & Gold]

We are 8 and 4 and WE'RE COMING FOR YOU BABY!

:clap :clap :clap Speaks the Truth.

[Purple & Gold]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/12/02/2004048780.jpg
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/12/02/2004048781.jpg
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/12/02/2004048783.jpg

Best linebacker in the NFL!

As well as best linebacking core in football.




Tatupu, Peterson, and LeRoy Hill. :wow :wow :wow

[Extra Stout]

Then get rocked by New England 86-0.
Freudian slip of the year.

[monosylab1k]

i'm guessing it's a reverse jinx.

[BradLohaus]

Well, Seattle does have a veteran team with a good QB who has played in his fair share of big playoff games. Also their defense is 4th in the NFL in points allowed right now. That's the kind of team that could pull off a road upset in the playoffs.

It's unlikely, but if Romo has a bad game, the Seahawks win the turnover battle, and they get some big plays on offense while limiting Dallas's big plays, then you never know. But that's alot to ask for.

[Mixability]

Go Mouse Go!

:lmao

11k posts is pretty high for one of his trolls.

[bostonguy]

Seahawks dont stand a chance. They didnt even beat the Cowboys last year. They were given that game. I am no Cowboys fan but comon. Seahawks beat an imploding Dallas team coached by Parcells. This team in so many ways is way better than last year. Cowboys should have little trouble kick their asses.

[J.T.]

i'm guessing it's a reverse jinx.

No. In the same alternate universe where the Seahawks beat the Packers and Cowboys in the playoffs, the Patriots beat the Colts. I was just contributing to the generally stupid nature of the original post.

[J.T.]

Seahawks dont stand a chance. They didnt even beat the Cowboys last year. They were given that game. I am no Cowboys fan but comon. Seahawks beat an imploding Dallas team coached by Parcells. This team in so many ways is way better than last year. Cowboys should have little trouble kick their asses.

They didn't beat Dallas when Romo would have scored if not for a great tackle by Jordan Babineaux? Seriously, if Martin Gramatica just tugs on that guys jersey, he doesn't catch Romo and Romo either scores or gets the first down.

It was an exceptional choke by Dallas, but a choke that was a hair's breadth from being the defining moment of Romo's career so far, but in a good way.

The only thing that game proved was that kickers are pussies.

[tlongII]

Seahawks dont stand a chance. They didnt even beat the Cowboys last year. They were given that game. I am no Cowboys fan but comon. Seahawks beat an imploding Dallas team coached by Parcells. This team in so many ways is way better than last year. Cowboys should have little trouble kick their asses.

This year's Seahawks team is a lot better than last year as well.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The only thing that game proved was that kickers are pussies.
:tu

[9brandon2]

HAHAHAHHA

yur hilarious

i would like to see them beat the packers before heading for DEM 'BOYS

ha. good luck.

[Purple & Gold]

Well, Seattle does have a veteran team with a good QB who has played in his fair share of big playoff games. Also their defense is 4th in the NFL in points allowed right now. That's the kind of team that could pull off a road upset in the playoffs.

It wouldn't really be an upset. But I get what you're saying.



Seahawks also have a dominant Red Zone defense. More than one team has been stopped on 4th and goal from the 1. :elephant :elephant

[Purple & Gold]

Seahawks dont stand a chance. They didnt even beat the Cowboys last year. They were given that game. I am no Cowboys fan but comon. Seahawks beat an imploding Dallas team coached by Parcells. This team in so many ways is way better than last year. Cowboys should have little trouble kick their asses.

:blah :blah :blah :blah :blah

[DallasFan]

It wouldn't really be an upset. But I get what you're saying.



Seahawks also have a dominant Red Zone defense. More than one team has been stopped on 4th and goal from the 1. :elephant :elephant

Wouldn't be an upset??? :drunk

Stopping the Cards, 49ers, Rams, etc...gotcha.

[Purple & Gold]

Wouldn't be an upset??? :drunk

Actually it wouldn't. Regular season and playoffs are two whole different seasons. A Mavs fan should know better.

[leemajors]

hasselchuck blows ass.

[tlongII]

42 - 21

[O-Factor]

42 - 21

Cowboys

[Jimcs50]

I agree with tlong.

Seattle will beat Dallas in the playoffs.

[dickface]

It's definitely possible.

Dallas fans think they have their SB ticket punched, but let's not forget that this team has little-to-no prior experience winning playoff games. The majority of their core (Romo, Newman, Barber, Witten, Roy, Ellis, Ware) have never won a playoff game ever. Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game.

Dallas is definitely the favorite in the NFC, but Seattle could easily take them out again.

[samikeyp]

It's definitely possible.

Dallas fans think they have their SB ticket punched, but let's not forget that this team has little-to-no prior experience winning playoff games. The majority of their core (Romo, Newman, Barber, Witten, Roy, Ellis, Ware) have never won a playoff game ever. Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game.

Dallas is definitely the favorite in the NFC, but Seattle could easily take them out again.

As someone who lived through the Dallas teams of the 80's as well as the early 2000's....nothing here is being taken for granted. :)

[Dirk Nowitzki]

It's definitely possible.

Dallas fans think they have their SB ticket punched, but let's not forget that this team has little-to-no prior experience winning playoff games. The majority of their core (Romo, Newman, Barber, Witten, Roy, Ellis, Ware) have never won a playoff game ever. Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game.

Dallas is definitely the favorite in the NFC, but Seattle could easily take them out again.


I agree that it is possible for Seattle to beat Dallas in the playoffs because the slogan in the NFL is any given sunday especially in the postseason. If they take seattle lightly and think everything is a lock, someone will upset them. Now if the Cowboys play their best game, Seattle isnt beating them. It took multiple fuckups for the Seahawks to squeak by a faltering Cowboys team last season. It is going to take mental preventable mistakes by the Cowboys to lose to the Seahawks or just about any team in the NFC.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Two weeks ago, I would have said the 'Boys in a walk. But with the way the Pack and Lions, two of the worst rushing teams in the league, gashed their way through the 'Boys, I see it more as a coin flip now.

Oh, and Trufant >> Newman.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Two weeks ago, I would have said the 'Boys in a walk. But with the way the Pack and Lions, two of the worst rushing teams in the league, gashed their way through the 'Boys, I see it more as a coin flip now.

Oh, and Trufant >> Newman.

Yet they havent allowed a 100 yard rusher at all this season. The Cowboys rush D is better than what it showed these last 2 weeks. Like I said if the Cowboys play their C game, then it can be close to a coin flip. However if the Cowboys dont make stupid mistakes and play their A game, it wont even be close.

[dickface]

the player responsible for this...

W8U0KT0bYZw

is teamed up with the coach responsible for this...

TauUHAnn84k

and you're really expecting Dallas to survive the playoffs? I'm predicting a meltdown in their 1st game against whoever.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Yet they havent allowed a 100 yard rusher at all this season. The Cowboys rush D is better than what it showed these last 2 weeks.


I don't think the "haven't allowed 100 yd rusher stat" holds weight anymore. Too many teams split carries among two or three backs. When people used to say that, it meant that the opposing teams' rushing attack was non-existent.

Not anymore.

I can name four teams off the top of my head that rushed for well over 100 yds against Dallas with two backs: NYG, Minny, GB, Lions.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

the player responsible for this...

W8U0KT0bYZw

is teamed up with the coach responsible for this...

TauUHAnn84k

and you're really expecting Dallas to survive the playoffs? I'm predicting a meltdown in their 1st game against whoever.


Pretty much it is going to take preventable fuckups for Seattle or anyone in the NFC to knock off the Cowboys. Glad we agree on that.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

I don't think the "haven't allowed 100 yd rusher stat" holds weight anymore. Too many teams split carries among two or three backs. When people used to say that, it meant that the opposing teams' rushing attack was non-existent.

Not anymore.

I can name four teams off the top of my head that rushed for well over 100 yds against Dallas with two backs: NYG, Minny, GB, Lions.


Rush D is like the 5th best in the league. Also the Colts rush D last year was horrible then it stepped up in the playoffs. I guess we will have to see how it all plays out come postseason time.

[dickface]

The more i think about it, the more I believe that the Cowboys have to show me they can win ONE SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME for the first time in over a decade before I consider them a favorite. They've got a team full of playoff underacheivers.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

The more i think about it, the more I believe that the Cowboys have to show me they can win ONE SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME for the first time in over a decade before I consider them a favorite. They've got a team full of playoff underacheivers.

Totally agree. Thats why you play the games. Same thing was said for Manning and the Colts. They had to win it all to convince everybody that they were going to do it.

[Obstructed_View]

The more i think about it, the more I believe that the Cowboys have to show me they can win ONE SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME for the first time in over a decade before I consider them a favorite. They've got a team full of playoff underacheivers.
Don't forget about the playoff underachieving coach. Lots to prove this year. It'll be fun to watch. Hopefully it'll take more than the Seattle ball boy to beat them this year.

[tlongII]

The Seahawks can beat the Cowboys even if Dallas plays well. Seattle is playing very well now and hopefully that will continue.

[peewee's lovechild]

The Seahawks can beat the Cowboys even if Dallas plays well. Seattle is playing very well now and hopefully that will continue.

So, are you ever going to man up and place a bet with me??

Or, are you just going to continue to run your mouth off?

[NBA Junkie]

With Shaun Alexander no longer being a top tier running back, there's no way the Seahawks come close to pulling off an upset over the 'Boys or the Packers at playoff time.

[tlongII]

So, are you ever going to man up and place a bet with me??

Or, are you just going to continue to run your mouth off?


When the teams are actually scheduled to play each other we can make an appropriate wager. I doubt that you would pay up though.

[tlongII]

With Shaun Alexander no longer being a top tier running back, there's no way the Seahawks come close to pulling off an upset over the 'Boys or the Packers at playoff time.


Alexander has been hurt. He is starting to get healthy now. That is bad news for Cowboys fans.

[Purple & Gold]

Alexander and Morris are a top RB duo. They are actually more dangerous with the emergence of Morris and Alexander having a smaller role.

[mardigan]

As well as best linebacking core in football.




Tatupu, Peterson, and LeRoy Hill. :wow :wow :wow
:lol
I would easily take the Cowboys lb core over Seattle's.

[tlongII]

:lol
I would easily take the Cowboys lb core over Seattle's.

:lmao

You would be wrong too!

[mardigan]

:lmao

You would be wrong too!
Boys backers have 10 more sacks, so I dont really think so.

[monosylab1k]

Seattle may have more talent overall at LB, but Dallas has DeMarcus Ware. I'll go with Ware every time.

[mardigan]

Seattle may have more talent overall at LB, but Dallas has DeMarcus Ware.
Ellis and Ware have 21.5 sacks.
The starting Seattle lb core has 13.

[monosylab1k]

Ellis and Ware have 21.5 sacks.
The starting Seattle lb core has 13.
Ellis & Ware have been huge, but Ayodele is average at best, and Bradie James is becoming a liability at this point. Seattle may not have that weakness, but like I said, DeMarcus Ware is so damn good that I can live with Bradie James screwing up. That's why I'd personally take Dallas' LB crew over Seattle's.

Ware is such a beast in every aspect. He can get pressure on the QB, stuff the run, and he's one of the better coverage LB's in the game. In a year or two he'll definitely be the best all around LB in the game.

[tlongII]

Ellis and Ware have 21.5 sacks.
The starting Seattle lb core has 13.

So what? Patrick Kerney leads the NFC in sacks with 13.5. The Seahawks lb's don't have as many sacks because they don't need to blitz as much as Dallas. Julian Peterson has 9 sacks anyway though.

Kerney and Peterson have 22.5 sacks.

Therefore, Kerney and Peterson > Ellis and Ware

[tlongII]

The best LB in the game is Lofa Tatupu.

[mardigan]

The best LB in the game is Lofa Tatupu.
Of course to you he is.
I would probably take 5-10 lb's in the league over him.

[mardigan]

Therefore, Kerney and Peterson > Ellis and Ware
Ellis missed the first 4 games

[tlongII]

Seattle has 41 sacks. Dallas has 34 sacks. Seattle D > Dallas D.

[mardigan]

Seattle has 41 sacks. Dallas has 34 sacks. Seattle D > Dallas D.
I like how you had to change you argument.
Dallas, 8th ranked d, Seattle, 12th.

[tlongII]

I like how you had to change you argument.
Dallas, 8th ranked d, Seattle, 12th.

Not changing the argument at all. You were arguing that the Dallas lb corps is better because they have more sacks. I am saying that they have more sacks because they blitz more. Seattle's front four can pressure the QB without blitzes.

[DallasFan]

Actually it wouldn't. Regular season and playoffs are two whole different seasons. A Mavs fan should know better.

Oh, so the Warriors beating the Mavs wasn't an upset either?

Dallas is 12-1 (now) and would be at home...that would be classified as an upset.

[tlongII]

I like how you had to change you argument.
Dallas, 8th ranked d, Seattle, 12th.

Scoring Defense: Seattle D ranked 5th. Dallas D ranked 15th.

[DallasFan]

Seattle has 41 sacks. Dallas has 34 sacks. Seattle D > Dallas D.

Yes, when you consistenly play the Cardinals, Rams, and 49ers, it appears that way...

[DallasFan]

Alexander has been hurt. He is starting to get healthy now. That is bad news for Cowboys fans.

Cowboys offense averages over 30 pts. per game...That is bad new for Seahawks fans, if they play them.

[DallasFan]

Seattle may have more talent overall at LB

...but Dallas has more talent everywhere else!

[tlongII]

Yes, when you consistenly play the Cardinals, Rams, and 49ers, it appears that way...

During the last couple of years we've played every team in the NFC East and beaten all of them.

[DallasFan]

During the last couple of years we've played every team in the NFC East and beaten all of them.

Key words: "During the last couple of years"

[tlongII]

Dallas has a talented offense. No doubt about it. I just don't see a Wade Phillips coached team going to the Super Bowl though. Seattle will beat them.

[tlongII]

Key words: "During the last couple of years"

Key stat: Seattle has beaten Dallas twice in a row.

[DallasFan]

Dallas has a talented offense. No doubt about it. I just don't see a Wade Phillips coached team going to the Super Bowl though. Seattle will beat them.

Coaches have to get their fist trip sometime...Holmgren did the same after suffering defeats...

[mardigan]

Im just not scared of a team that loses to Arizona, Cleveland and New Orleans.

[DallasFan]

Key stat: Seattle has beaten Dallas twice in a row.

Sorry dude, but twice in the last, what, five years doesn't count. And last year should have been a home loss.

These are NOT the same Quincy Carter Cowboys you are referring to either...not even the same from the Romo led Cowboys from last year.

Yes, you guys have a chance, just like every team in the playoffs.

[samikeyp]

Key stat: Seattle has beaten Dallas twice in a row.

Key stat: Mike Holmgren has lost his last 7 playoff games in Texas Stadium which is where the game would be played.

:)

[tlongII]

Key stat: Mike Holmgren has lost his last 7 playoff games in Texas Stadium which is where the game would be played.

:)


He's due!

[Purple & Gold]

Boys backers have 10 more sacks, so I dont really think so.

Since when wasn't pass and run coverage part of a LB's job description.



Ohhhh and Tatupu > Ware :elephant :elephant

[Purple & Gold]

Im just not scared of a team that loses to Arizona, Cleveland and New Orleans.

Ohhhh yeah because you guys did such a great job against teams like Detroit, Washington, and Buffalo.

[Purple & Gold]

Oh, so the Warriors beating the Mavs wasn't an upset either?

Dallas is 12-1 (now) and would be at home...that would be classified as an upset.

Actually many people thought Golden St. could win. The Mavs were the least favored #1 seed ever.

Win a playoff game before you start making your Super Bowl vacation plans. I'd hate to see you guys end up like Charger fan.

[mardigan]

Ohhhh yeah because you guys did such a great job against teams like Detroit, Washington, and Buffalo.
How many of those games where wins?

[mardigan]

Ohhhh and Tatupu > Ware :elephant :elephant
At some things yes, and at other things no. They have different responsibilties, but Ware has the upper hand athleticaly by far.

[Purple & Gold]

How many of those games where wins?

You mean how many were gifts.


I'll give it to you guys a W is a W, but you guys aren't dominant like you think you are. The only games that will mean anything will be played in January/February.

[Purple & Gold]

At some things yes, and at other things no. They have different responsibilties, but Ware has the upper hand athleticaly by far.

Ohhh yes because football IQ means nothing. Tatupu has the upper hand between the ears by far.

[mardigan]

You mean how many were gifts.


I'll give it to you guys a W is a W, but you guys aren't dominant like you think you are. The only games that will mean anything will be played in January/February.
So the Pats arent dominant like they think they are because the Ravens and Eagles gave them gifts? Every great team has a couple of close calls, hopefully the Boys turn out to be one of those teams.

[monosylab1k]

Ohhh yes because football IQ means nothing. Tatupu has the upper hand between the ears by far.
DeMarcus Ware has great football IQ. He doesn't have as much experience but to say he's lacking in intelligence shows that you don't know much about him.

[mardigan]

Ohhh yes because football IQ means nothing. Tatupu has the upper hand between the ears by far.
Hmmm, I'd like to know how you got that. Maybe a stat Im overlooking. See, my comment was a fact, while yours isnt.

[samikeyp]

Ohhh yes because football IQ means nothing. Tatupu has the upper hand between the ears by far.

I would agree with you that football IQ is very important.

I would disagree because I think they are both rather football smart.

[monosylab1k]

This is DeMarcus Ware's first real year playing his position. I'm of the opinion that he was very poorly utilized by Parcells. He's a dominating presence right now and has the potential to get a LOT better. If I'm building a defense, I take him before just about any other defensive player in the league. I'd take Champ Bailey over him, but there's not too many other defensive players I'd take before Ware.

[Purple & Gold]

DeMarcus Ware has great football IQ. He doesn't have as much experience but to say he's lacking in intelligence shows that you don't know much about him.

Didn't say he's lacking in intelligence. Just said that Tatupu has a much greater football IQ.

As a rookie Tatupu came in and became a true defensive captain; making sure all the defensive players were lined up properly, calling defensive audibles, even telling vets where they should be. As far as I know Ware didn't come in as a rookie and take the defense by the collar like that.

[Purple & Gold]

Hmmm, I'd like to know how you got that. Maybe a stat Im overlooking. See, my comment was a fact, while yours isnt.

It's called watching the game. If you know what to look for you would be able to see it.

[Purple & Gold]

So the Pats arent dominant like they think they are because the Ravens and Eagles gave them gifts? Every great team has a couple of close calls, hopefully the Boys turn out to be one of those teams.

If you ask the Pats players they won't say their dominant "yet". And that's just not lip service. Every team has holes and can be exploited. I doubt the Pats take teams like Jacksonville, Indy, and even the Chargers lightly.

[monosylab1k]

Didn't say he's lacking in intelligence. Just said that Tatupu has a much greater football IQ.

As a rookie Tatupu came in and became a true defensive captain; making sure all the defensive players were lined up properly, calling defensive audibles, even telling vets where they should be. As far as I know Ware didn't come in as a rookie and take the defense by the collar like that.
DeMarcus Ware has great football IQ. Just as good as Tatupu.

And Ware never had that opportunity to be a leader right away. He was a DE in college and spent his rookie year learning how to play LB. In addition, Parcells would never have let him take control of the defense. He also would never have let Tatupu do that either. Alot of Ware's development has been stunted by the ultra-conservative philosophy of Parcells, something Tatupu never had to deal with. Even so, Ware is a dominant force with high football IQ. I'll take Ware before Tatupu any day of the week.

[Purple & Gold]

This is DeMarcus Ware's first real year playing his position. I'm of the opinion that he was very poorly utilized by Parcells. He's a dominating presence right now and has the potential to get a LOT better. If I'm building a defense, I take him before just about any other defensive player in the league. I'd take Champ Bailey over him, but there's not too many other defensive players I'd take before Ware.

DeMarcus Ware is a damn good player and a true presence out there, no argument from me. But I would still take Tatupu over him.

Tatupu just does everything really well out there. You want him to blitz, he'll get to the quarterback or open up a huge hole for somebody else to get there. You drop him back in coverage, he's like an extra DB out there. You need him to stop the run, he's a great sure handed tackler that has a nose for the ball. I honestly can't see any weaknesses in his game.

[Purple & Gold]

DeMarcus Ware has great football IQ. Just as good as Tatupu.

And Ware never had that opportunity to be a leader right away. He was a DE in college and spent his rookie year learning how to play LB. In addition, Parcells would never have let him take control of the defense. He also would never have let Tatupu do that either. Alot of Ware's development has been stunted by the ultra-conservative philosophy of Parcells, something Tatupu never had to deal with. Even so, Ware is a dominant force with high football IQ. I'll take Ware before Tatupu any day of the week.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I say Tatupu's IQ is higher. And Parcells wouldn't have had a choice if he would have had Tatupu on his team. He took a defense and led them to the Super Bowl as a rookie. Before the season had even started he was already barking at vets and pointing out their mistakes. He wasn't given the defensive captains job, he straight up went and took it.

[samikeyp]

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I say Tatupu's IQ is higher. And Parcells wouldn't have had a choice if he would have had Tatupu on his team. He took a defense and led them to the Super Bowl as a rookie. Before the season had even started he was already barking at vets and pointing out their mistakes. He wasn't given the defensive captains job, he straight up went and took it.


Actually he was given it because only the coach can assign a captaincy or he can defer to a players vote.

I think Parcells would have actually hindered Tatupu's career as I think he did with Ware. Slightly but still. The defense that is in place with Dallas now allows for Ware to do more and use his athletic ability. Tatupu had that when he came in with Seattle and he shined. I would take Ware over Tatupu but not by much and that is in no way a slight. Both guys are studs and will be pro bowlers for quite a while.

[mardigan]

It's called watching the game. If you know what to look for you would be able to see it.
I see Ware all over the place, being double teamed almost every time he rushes, great against the run, and a guy who puts up just as good production if not better with less snaps who is still learning his position.

[Obstructed_View]

A rematch with Seattle would be sweet, because that would mean that the Cowboys were in the NFC title game.

[DallasFan]

You mean how many were gifts.


I'll give it to you guys a W is a W, but you guys aren't dominant like you think you are. The only games that will mean anything will be played in January/February.

Oh, but the Seahawks are very dominant :rolleyes

BTW, How in the hell can you say Tatupu is better than Ware. Do oyu watch the games? They are in effect two different styes of linebackers.

If you don't thnk games being played now mean anything, you are an idiot. this is not hte NBA, where there are 82 games. Home field and momentum mean a lot.

[DallasFan]

Actually many people thought Golden St. could win. The Mavs were the least favored #1 seed ever.

Win a playoff game before you start making your Super Bowl vacation plans. I'd hate to see you guys end up like Charger fan.

Same to you bud...and the Warriors beating the Mavs was an upset. 67 win team versus 40+...Gimme a break dude. :drunk

[DallasFan]

Ohhhh yeah because you guys did such a great job against teams like Detroit, Washington, and Buffalo.

Did we not win?

[DallasFan]

You mean how many were gifts.


I'll give it to you guys a W is a W, but you guys aren't dominant like you think you are. The only games that will mean anything will be played in January/February.

Well, if anyone was interested in watching the Seachickens play, we might be able to see how many "gifts" you guys have along with your losses.

[BeerIsGood!]

Seattle is starting to look impressive and Hasselback is playing well so they would be a dangerous team. Still, I'd have to see them beat somebody (especially on the road) before I really gave them much credit. Solid team but I don't really know how good.

[StylisticS]

DeMarcus Ware is a damn good player and a true presence out there, no argument from me. But I would still take Tatupu over him.

Tatupu just does everything really well out there. You want him to blitz, he'll get to the quarterback or open up a huge hole for somebody else to get there. You drop him back in coverage, he's like an extra DB out there. You need him to stop the run, he's a great sure handed tackler that has a nose for the ball. I honestly can't see any weaknesses in his game.

Damn. You just described Ware.

[scott]

Losing to the Panthers deserves a bump.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

One for the Eagle loss as well.

[dirk4mvp]

Ware is a monster. Better than Tatupu for sure. There's not many LB if any I'd take over Ware.

[Purple & Gold]

Tatupu is still better than Ware. :smokin

[Purple & Gold]

Same to you bud...and the Warriors beating the Mavs was an upset. 67 win team versus 40+...Gimme a break dude. :drunk

Seahawks did win a playoff game. Remember last year?? Or the year before that?? Remind me again when was the last time you guys won one.

And once again how many times did the Warriors beat you guys in the regular season?? Go ahead though, keep telling yourself the better team lost. :lol :lol :lol

[DallasFan]

When in my verbage did you read where the Seahawks did not win...and if you still are saying the Warriors beating the MAVS wasn't an upset, you are probably the only person that thinks that.

Can you say HOOKED ON PHONICS.... :drunk

Ware and Tatupu are different types of linebackers. I would rather have Ware any day...just as Shawn Merriman.

[Horry For 3!]

Tatupu is still better than Ware. :smokin
BeWare of D Ware. He would kill gay former USC LB Tatupu.


Ware is bigger and faster than Tatupu.